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I won't even post a picture of my stand. It does the job but I would love something nicer. I was so close to buying a Standout Designs stand a couple year ago but couldn't pull the trigger. I spent too much money on TVs to buy a nice stand. Another problem is I'm sure my two kids will destroy any nice furniture I put in the house.
post #11312 of 13986
I'm wondering if October
Builds have the fix cause it seemed like mine did and they are very quiet. If anything I can hear that "pulse" when the sound is very low or completely off. My ps3 is louder
post #11313 of 13986
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Originally Posted by The Void View Post

I won't even post a picture of my stand. It does the job but I would love something nicer. I was so close to buying a Standout Designs stand a couple year ago but couldn't pull the trigger. I spent too much money on TVs to buy a nice stand. Another problem is I'm sure my two kids will destroy any nice furniture I put in the house.

I hear you. I'm reluctant to spend BDI type money but those guys and the Standout guys really thought it through. Luckily my kids are at an age where they don't destroy stuff anymore. In the past they knocked a bookshelf speaker off a stand, put a finger through the other bookshelf speaker, and I've had to dig out legos and hot wheels that were inserted into the sub side port. smile.gif

My current set up does not have a spot for my CC and the ventilation sucks. Don't know about everyone else but my marantz 6005 runs pretty hot.
post #11314 of 13986
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Originally Posted by SeLfMaDe111985 View Post

I'm wondering if October
Builds have the fix cause it seemed like mine did and they are very quiet. If anything I can hear that "pulse" when the sound is very low or completely off. My ps3 is louder

My 60 inch is very quiet also.
post #11315 of 13986
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Originally Posted by The Void View Post

I won't even post a picture of my stand. It does the job but I would love something nicer. I was so close to buying a Standout Designs stand a couple year ago but couldn't pull the trigger. I spent too much money on TVs to buy a nice stand. Another problem is I'm sure my two kids will destroy any nice furniture I put in the house.



Maybe something like this would work for you then.

I have the same stand and I can guarantee you that you'll like it. My V65T60 feels like it's just floating when I view it in my pitch black room at night. For $200 you can do a lot worse wink.gif
post #11316 of 13986
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Originally Posted by agorena123 View Post

A little off topic but DLF's picture of his set up made me do it. biggrin.gif

I am currently looking around for a tv console for the vt60 and my equipment ( center channel, marantz avr, PS3 slim and accessories, dish dvr, cd player ) . I am finding alot of media consoles that really aren't designed for center channels and hot running gear (little or no ventilation), or they are designed right but are rather pricy.

The best option I've seen so far are the BDI consoles. The ones my wife and I like run around $1700. I'll spend that if I have to but was curious to see if anyone had found a tv console they really liked that fits a center channel and is priced less than the BDI consoles.

I'm in the same boat. Trying to keep my budget around $1000.

The Furnitech FT72CC is one I'm considering. Nice looking stand, though I have not seen one in person. Around $900.

http://www.furnitech.com/ft72cc.html

You can find them here.

http://www.furnitech.com/ft72cc.html

Another option is the Salamander Designs 236 or 237. Pretty popular stands. $1250.

http://www.salamanderdesigns.com/products/collection/40dbc840-a607-7fe4-f16d-506f56beb9f4?f=m
post #11317 of 13986
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Originally Posted by agorena123 View Post

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Originally Posted by SeLfMaDe111985 View Post

I'm wondering if October
Builds have the fix cause it seemed like mine did and they are very quiet. If anything I can hear that "pulse" when the sound is very low or completely off. My ps3 is louder

My 60 inch is very quiet also.


My 55 vt60 - October build is also very quiet
post #11318 of 13986
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Originally Posted by buzzard767 View Post

Depends on the display. Some require SM adjustments. Most new displays do not, the VT60 included. It has everything needed in the User Menu.
I figured that was the case and that it makes life easier for calibrators. Thanks buzzard.
post #11319 of 13986
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Originally Posted by mbroadus View Post

I inputted Silly's settings last night and while I like the colors, the whites have a blue tint. I was watching a TV show last night and one gentleman had a white dress shirt and it had a blue tint to it. The same with white letters and numbers during news broadcasts. Could the blue whites be a result of not changing the Color Detail Adjustment?

That is not surprising. The color detail will have negligible affect on the grayscale. As Buzz said, these units do not do well copying other settings. Even copying settings from my 60VT60 to my 65VF60 yield unacceptable results.


Here is the ss settings applied to my 65VT60.



Here is my 60VT60 calibrated settings applied to my 65VT60.



And just for completeness, here is the default THX Cinema mode on my 65VT60




Larry

added THX chart
Edited by LarryInRI - 1/22/14 at 3:13pm
post #11320 of 13986
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Originally Posted by agorena123 View Post

My 60 inch is very quiet also.

I looked through the fan holes and it seemed like their was some silver foam lining the fans. Additional foam IMO creates more heat
post #11321 of 13986
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Originally Posted by p3Orion View Post

I'm in the same boat. Trying to keep my budget around $1000.

The Furnitech FT72CC is one I'm considering. Nice looking stand, though I have not seen one in person. Around $900.

http://www.furnitech.com/ft72cc.html

You can find them here.

http://www.furnitech.com/ft72cc.html

Another option is the Salamander Designs 236 or 237. Pretty popular stands. $1250.

http://www.salamanderdesigns.com/products/collection/40dbc840-a607-7fe4-f16d-506f56beb9f4?f=m

These look nice - wondering if the shelves are louvered for ventilation, didn't look like it on the brochure.
post #11322 of 13986
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Originally Posted by SeLfMaDe111985 View Post

I'm wondering if October
Builds have the fix cause it seemed like mine did and they are very quiet. If anything I can hear that "pulse" when the sound is very low or completely off. My ps3 is louder

My VT60 October build has the foam fix, but is still audible at silent scenes, not as bad as with no foam fix. My VT50 is dead quiet so it has to be something did that caused the airflow to be more turbulent to make more noise as the fans as the same. I posted my additional fix in the thread about the noise that makes them inaudible.
post #11323 of 13986
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Originally Posted by sillysally View Post

I just updated my settings to show what settings I used for that report.

Click on the top link in my sig.

Also note that these setting a done after I ran a 21^3 Profile/LUT, that's why you don't see any Color detail adjustments. .
The Color detail adjustments.are way to big to fit into the settings and memory of the VT60 so I use a external processor and storage unit called eecolor. If you have the eecolor I can send you the settings for the CMS.

ss

Hi, if you don't mind me asking again, how and why does this translate into the settings you've posted on here for the VT60 being zero?
post #11324 of 13986
FIY, found something called LightDims on another forum thread to temper the red led "on" light which can be distracting when we go total dark -especially when in 3d. They have a try it for a penny offer with $1.98 shipping. I love cheap mods!
post #11325 of 13986
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Originally Posted by onepanda View Post


Looks like I will be sending it back since Amazon has 0 in stock and cannot send me a replacement. Though, does anyone know if a cracked screen would be covered under Panasonic's warranty?


Why not ask if Amazon will pay to have Panasonic come out and replace the screen?

post #11326 of 13986
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Originally Posted by mo949 View Post

Love the curves on that model, looks great!

Didn't know if you were talking about the furniture or something else. tongue.gif
post #11327 of 13986
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Originally Posted by agorena123 View Post

FIY, found something called LightDims on another forum thread to temper the red led "on" light which can be distracting when we go total dark -especially when in 3d. They have a try it for a penny offer with $1.98 shipping. I love cheap mods!

Those can help but usually only if you put multiple layers on. Small piece of electrical tape works better.
post #11328 of 13986
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Originally Posted by Ghost2231 View Post

Those can help but usually only if you put multiple layers on. Small piece of electrical tape works better.

Dunno, their tv ad is pretty convincing. wink.gif I am no way affiliated with these folks, I just love cheesy "as seen on tv" type ads.

http://www.lightdims.com/tvad.htm
post #11329 of 13986
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Originally Posted by p3Orion View Post

I'm in the same boat. Trying to keep my budget around $1000.

The Furnitech FT72CC is one I'm considering. Nice looking stand, though I have not seen one in person. Around $900.

http://www.furnitech.com/ft72cc.html

You can find them here.

http://www.furnitech.com/ft72cc.html

Another option is the Salamander Designs 236 or 237. Pretty popular stands. $1250.

http://www.salamanderdesigns.com/products/collection/40dbc840-a607-7fe4-f16d-506f56beb9f4?f=m

Spend the extra money on the salamander, very good quality.
post #11330 of 13986
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Originally Posted by LarryInRI View Post

That is not surprising. The color detail will have negligible affect on the grayscale. As Buzz said, these units do not do well copying other settings. Even copying settings from my 60VT60 to my 65VF60 yield unacceptable results.


Here is the ss settings applied to my 65VT60.



Here is my 60VT60 calibrated settings applied to my 65VT60.



And just for completeness, here is the default THX Cinema mode on my 65VT60




Larry

added THX chart

Thanks Larry! I wanted to check all the settings to see what the buzz is about. I've used Cnet's, Sound & Vision, Plasma Buying Guide and Silly's and always default back to THX Cinema. Chad B will be coming to town in March so I'm trying to set a calibration appointment.
post #11331 of 13986
having been an avs member for a while i have always found it to be of great assistance to me in picking out audio video equipment and in getting it to perform its best. things that are good about the equipment should be posted as well as issues. there may be someone out there that that can solve your problem from his experiences. this thread is becoming more and and more difficult to follow due to respones to questions by people who do do not read peoples whole question. someone asks the dimensions of the stand of a 55vt60 and gets the dimensions for a 60vt60. other legitimate questions are ignored so someone can market calibration services. calibration discussions belong in the calibration thread unless directly about the vt series and even then there should be a limit. lets stop with the personal attacks of those that you don't agree with. the vt60's are good tv's and we are happy to be owners of the last great plasmas. lets enjoy our tv's and help each other out. just one man's opinion. i am sure that many others would join in my thoughts however.
post #11332 of 13986
Last Saturday, the 11th, best buy delivered my 60VT60 and picked up my 55VT60. I exchanged the two when the 60 went on sale a couple days after I bought the 55. A couple days after the exchange, I received a cryptic email and voice mail from the store manager at best buy asking me to contact them. We play phone and email tag until I get in touch with them today. Best Buy wants to know if the delivery guys picked up the 55 when they delivered the 60. Then asked if the delivery people were from geek squad or a third party...they were third party. Good thing I pdf all my receipts and delivery materials for insurance purposes.
post #11333 of 13986
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Originally Posted by atlavfan View Post

having been an avs member for a while i have always found it to be of great assistance to me in picking out audio video equipment and in getting it to perform its best. things that are good about the equipment should be posted as well as issues. there may be someone out there that that can solve your problem from his experiences. this thread is becoming more and and more difficult to follow due to respones to questions by people who do do not read peoples whole question. someone asks the dimensions of the stand of a 55vt60 and gets the dimensions for a 60vt60. other legitimate questions are ignored so someone can market calibration services. calibration discussions belong in the calibration thread unless directly about the vt series and even then there should be a limit. lets stop with the personal attacks of those that you don't agree with. the vt60's are good tv's and we are happy to be owners of the last great plasmas. lets enjoy our tv's and help each other out. just one man's opinion. i am sure that many others would join in my thoughts however.

Seriously? I guess I must be that pro desperately seeking customers. I got news for you, toots. I'm a retired professional, could never spend the money I've already earned in my lifetime, and am not looking for yours. I don't travel to perform calibrations nor do I kow tow. I'm here because I own a VT60 and share my knowledge and findings free of charge. Calibration of the VT60 certainly does belong in a VT60 thread just as much as the size of the stand base.
post #11334 of 13986
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Originally Posted by atlavfan View Post

having been an avs member for a while i have always found it to be of great assistance to me in picking out audio video equipment and in getting it to perform its best. things that are good about the equipment should be posted as well as issues. there may be someone out there that that can solve your problem from his experiences. this thread is becoming more and and more difficult to follow due to respones to questions by people who do do not read peoples whole question. someone asks the dimensions of the stand of a 55vt60 and gets the dimensions for a 60vt60. other legitimate questions are ignored so someone can market calibration services. calibration discussions belong in the calibration thread unless directly about the vt series and even then there should be a limit. lets stop with the personal attacks of those that you don't agree with. the vt60's are good tv's and we are happy to be owners of the last great plasmas. lets enjoy our tv's and help each other out. just one man's opinion. i am sure that many others would join in my thoughts however.

I understand the skepticism inherent in this comment. I've probably had similar thoughts myself at some point.

However, once you try it, I don't think you could go back to THX Cinema/Brightroom ever again either wink.gif
post #11335 of 13986
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Originally Posted by buzzard767 View Post

Seriously? I guess I must be that pro desperately seeking customers. I got news for you, toots. I'm a retired professional, could never spend the money I've already earned in my lifetime, and am not looking for yours. I don't travel to perform calibrations nor do I kow tow. I'm here because I own a VT60 and share my knowledge and findings free of charge. Calibration of the VT60 certainly does belong in a VT60 thread just as much as the size of the stand base.

actually you are not one of the calibrators that i was referring to. but as far as people not reading a persons post before responding...
post #11336 of 13986
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Originally Posted by buzzard767 View Post

Seriously? I guess I must be that pro desperately seeking customers. I got news for you, toots. I'm a retired professional, could never spend the money I've already earned in my lifetime, and am not looking for yours. I don't travel to perform calibrations nor do I kow tow. I'm here because I own a VT60 and share my knowledge and findings free of charge. Calibration of the VT60 certainly does belong in a VT60 thread just as much as the size of the stand base.
I wouldn't of even entertained this dudes post. 44 posts in 7 years, I don't think he should be dictating what goes on in this thread...

Moving on now to more important things like VT60 calibrations, lol.
post #11337 of 13986
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Originally Posted by LarryInRI View Post

That is not surprising. The color detail will have negligible affect on the grayscale. As Buzz said, these units do not do well copying other settings. Even copying settings from my 60VT60 to my 65VF60 yield unacceptable results.


Here is the ss settings applied to my 65VT60.



Here is my 60VT60 calibrated settings applied to my 65VT60.



And just for completeness, here is the default THX Cinema mode on my 65VT60




Larry

added THX chart
Larry, thanks for this. Any chance for a blurb under each one to know what we are looking at. Also, how about adding in Buzz's settings at an hour calibration. Would be interesting to see how it looks in a panel with hours on it.
post #11338 of 13986
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Originally Posted by agorena123 View Post

A little off topic but DLF's picture of his set up made me do it. biggrin.gif

I am currently looking around for a tv console for the vt60 and my equipment ( center channel, marantz avr, PS3 slim and accessories, dish dvr, cd player ) . I am finding alot of media consoles that really aren't designed for center channels and hot running gear (little or no ventilation), or they are designed right but are rather pricy.

The best option I've seen so far are the BDI consoles. The ones my wife and I like run around $1700. I'll spend that if I have to but was curious to see if anyone had found a tv console they really liked that fits a center channel and is priced less than the BDI consoles.

I would never ever spend $1700 on a stand, so its tough to answer. I have a $300 stand that houses my Infinity center channel just fine....you have to slide it in from the side.

UPDATED with the exact stand...http://www.vanns.com/shop/Tech-Craft-MC6032B-Black-60-wide-flat-panel-TV-stand/product-800534126


I'm not sure if you want to go that cheap...but my 65VT60 fits perfect, holds tons of equipment, and looks great IMHO! I can send you a picture if needed.
Edited by Codeman00 - 1/22/14 at 5:17pm
post #11339 of 13986

@agorena123 & others:

 

I'm in the marked for a TV stand as well. Since I can't really afford a 1700 $ solution and I'd rather spend an extra 300 $ on the TV itself, I'm looking into (partially) building one myself. These "IKEA hacks" look pretty great to me. And most of them don't look too hard to build if you don't have two left hands:

 

http://www.ikeahackers.net/2013/04/unnu-inspired-media-bench.html

http://www.ikeahackers.net/2013/12/besta-depthadapted.html

http://www.ikeahackers.net/2013/01/minimalistic-floating-tv-unit.html

http://www.ikeahackers.net/2013/07/low-tv-bank-lacknrolls.html

 

The first one is my personal favorite. :) 


Edited by filmz - 1/23/14 at 3:33am
post #11340 of 13986
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Originally Posted by eric3316 View Post

Larry, thanks for this. Any chance for a blurb under each one to know what we are looking at. Also, how about adding in Buzz's settings at an hour calibration. Would be interesting to see how it looks in a panel with hours on it.

Yeah, I keep forgetting that not all understand calibration. Sorry. redface.gif

The charts are simple to grasp.

In very non-technical terms: The x axis (horizontal) defines the grayscale (white balance) from black (0%) to white (100%). The y axis shows the output of red, green, and blue at the specific grays. That means, for example, that if blue is higher than red and green, the screen will have an overall bluish tint to it.

This is seen best when the Color control is temporally reduced to zero. A black and white movie should look.... well, black and white. When this black and white is achieved, all three colors will fall on top of one another. The curve at the bottom of the graph is an indication of the amount of variation from perfect -- the error (delta E.) Generally a delta E of less than 3 is acceptable for viewing video. A delta E of less than 1 is desirable for viewing static pictures.

I hope this simplistic explanation helps.

Larry
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