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post #12991 of 13986
How about this stuff for blacking out chrome?
http://www.amazon.com/Trimbrite-T9005-Black-Out-Tape/dp/B00029XD62
Most car parts stores should have something like this. I used a similar product on a car and it lasted.

On the other hand, the silver does not bother me at all.
post #12992 of 13986
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Originally Posted by XBR11 View Post

Random thought...

If they can make a 3D tv that doesn't require wearing 3D glasses, why don't they make a tv that corrects for the need to wear glasses? Then a person could watch tv without glasses. And it would be razor sharp (assuming you sit at the perfect distance for the corrective visual) . Of course only one person could watch it at one time, so they would sell more tvs.

Why don't the tv manufacturers ever have these great ideas?

Because usually, each of your eyes has a different prescription.
Myself, for instance, I'm -.25 in my right eye, and perfect in my left after cataract surgery.
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So there is no way to reproduce the picture of THX Cinema and get the benefit of pixel orbiter?


I believe you can. Just write down each individual setting THX Cinema has and copy them to the Pro mode. I don't know if you can use the TV's own copy feature, if not, then just input them by hand.

post #12994 of 13986
Returned because I jumped on the Amazon 65 VT60 deal for $1999. Returned my ZT the day prior. Bad move for me because the VT60 arrived with a cracked screen. Scrambled and found a 60VT60 for a good price and 270 hours. Made my 65ZT60 available to any local forum member for the price I paid, but no takers. Someone ended up with a nice open box. 90 hours on the thing.
post #12995 of 13986
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Originally Posted by XboxJuan View Post

You have 2 chairs in front of your TV that are pointed away from the screen, one of them appears to be directly in the way of your TV viewing angle, the reflections off of that leather chair would be bad enough
The multi-purpose room has several configurations (furniture placements). The one shown in that picture is where the seating has been arranged facing each other, to facilitate conversation (not movie watching), such as at a familial Christmas gathering.
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And you're stressing about a 1/8" strip of silver ?
'stressing' is perhaps too strong a word, but that silver bit is hideous to mine eyes. In a different room perhaps it wouldn't be. It is, as several have mentioned, easily ignorable when engrossed in a film, but otherwise I'm obviously not enjoying it.
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Originally Posted by XboxJuan View Post

get an analog clock while your at it, or just move that red glowing atrocity to another location,
That digital clock is amazingly practical, precisely for its location, and equally for its proximity to the viewing image (particularly for television), and of course its ease of reading and minute precision. And in real life actually looks pretty good there.
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If you did a good enough masking job, I guess you could use PlastiDip spray. It should last 5 years, then when you're done with it you can peel it off.
That's an interesting product. Thank you. I shall consider it.
post #12996 of 13986
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Originally Posted by BasementBob View Post

I was hoping there were some sort of long removable plastic strips, perhaps similar to those little patches people use to cover the red ON light.

LightDims sells a Customizable Edition about the size of a number 10 envelope. I bought one, but haven't used it - somewhat wary since the Panasonic ehelp states not to leave plastic in contact with the TV for extended periods. One might be enough if you don't wrap it around the sides. Two would easily suffice.
post #12997 of 13986
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Originally Posted by smurraybhm View Post

Its good to see we have moved to complaining about aesthetics. So I guess everyone is happy with the most important part of our display - its picture.
It'll be a couple months before it's calibrated professionally. I'm not making any serious judgments about the quality of the image until then. I am anticipating good things. My last calibration on my Pioneer FHD1 was a very impressive change, and caused me to just give up calibrating it myself.

Two things I have noticed that I don't expect to change with the VT60, relative to the old Pioneer FHD1
1) vertical scrolling, such as the end credits at the end of BluRay "Sherlock" season 3 episodes, are jittery. Might be a problem with the PS3 rather than the VT60. Horizontal panning seems fine, but any vertical movement even in a movie seems jittery. I'm going to keep my eyes open for American film vertical movement to see if it might be some UK 50i to 24p or 96hz conversion problem, where the jitteriness is really caused by a bad de-interlacing conversion on the disk itself rather than the display.
2) The screen format (full, just, 4:3, zoom, etc) doesn't seem as smart on the VT60 as it did on the FHD1. Its not a problem with BluRays, but on cable television watching I find myself frequently using the VT60's remote's Format button (just under the blue), and I have to use Overscan=ON on cable for several channels that I didn't have to before. The FHD1 must have been actually looking at the content of the image to determine where artificial black bars (letterboxing) were -- whereas now I have to adjust manually as I change channels. I prefer to have cable always fill the screen even with the older resolution channels even if people look a little fat, and with HD channels it shouldn't have overscan. Using zoom works on several of the older channels, until I start using the DVR controls at which point half of them have the tops and bottoms cut off (e.g. the DVR's TV Guide that lists shows and times is missing 20% of the information).
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Originally Posted by p3Orion View Post

LightDims sells a Customizable Edition about the size of a number 10 envelope.
That was one of the first things I looked at, as it was sort of what I was hoping for except I wanted 60" long or so. I don't want to overlap or butt join. A 45 degree butt join at the corners is fine.

It has to be straight the entire distance. Simply put, I don't want to make it look worse.

And if glue is involved, it would be better to have the glue on the top/sides/bottom rather than the front, in case its ever removed. Light removable glue, rather than permanent. Perhaps static sheets.

I wondered if the silver trim could be pry-ed off, painted, and put back on, without damage. It's not obvious how to do that. (And warrantee?)
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Originally Posted by p3Orion View Post

somewhat wary since the Panasonic ehelp states not to leave plastic in contact with the TV for extended periods.
That would be this file
http://service.us.panasonic.com/OPERMANPDF/E-HELP_VT60.PDF
which says
"Do not let articles made from rubber or PVC be in contact with the TV for long periods of time."
"Do not attach sticky tape or labels, as they can make the surface of the pedestal dirty. Do not allow long-term contact with rubber, vinyl products, or the like. (Doing so will cause deterioration.)"
Edited by BasementBob - 2/19/14 at 9:23am
post #12999 of 13986
value electronics spray paints some of their zt60's a matte black so I'm thinking what you are after is quite doable. how they do it? no clue.
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How would one disable the red light?

post #13001 of 13986
there's always matte black paper tape, available at any graphics/art store.
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I tried googling this, but I have no idea what to search exactly because I don't know if it's the Home Theater or the TV. Hopefully someone will explain it to me.

 

I have a Panasonic Plasma VT60 and an Onkyo HT3500.

 

The Onkyo is connected to the TV through the ARC HDMI input. With this, the sound settings on the TV are greyed-out. The only option that is not, is "Digital audio out selection: Auto or PCM".

 

Now, here's the problem: I have a few movies on a hard drive, and some of them don't have any audio when I'm using the Onkyo (sound is fine when using the TV's speakers and on my computer too). I noticed that when I select "PCM" on the TV's sound options, I do get sound just fine through the Onkyo.

 

So my questions are, why is this happening? Is there a quality difference between "Auto" and "PCM"? Should I just leave it as PCM and listen to everything using that mode? Is PCM "inferior"? Is the movie I'm playing have some kind of audio codec/type/style that the Onkyo is not recognizing or something?

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Originally Posted by Scott Oakley View Post

How would one disable the red light?

Set-up Menu > Display Power Indicator > Off wink.gif
post #13004 of 13986
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Originally Posted by 5150zx View Post

Set-up Menu > Display Power Indicator > Off wink.gif

No such setting. biggrin.gif
post #13005 of 13986
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Originally Posted by ReyVGM View Post

I tried googling this, but I have no idea what to search exactly because I don't know if it's the Home Theater or the TV. Hopefully someone will explain it to me.

I have a Panasonic Plasma VT60 and an Onkyo HT3500.

The Onkyo is connected to the TV through the ARC HDMI input. With this, the sound settings on the TV are greyed-out. The only option that is not, is "Digital audio out selection: Auto or PCM".

Now, here's the problem: I have a few movies on a hard drive, and some of them don't have any audio when I'm using the Onkyo (sound is fine when using the TV's speakers and on my computer too). I noticed that when I select "PCM" on the TV's sound options, I do get sound just fine through the Onkyo.

So my questions are, why is this happening? Is there a quality difference between "Auto" and "PCM"? Should I just leave it as PCM and listen to everything using that mode? Is PCM "inferior"? Is the movie I'm playing have some kind of audio codec/type/style that the Onkyo is not recognizing or something?

I don't understand your connection. Did you just have 1 single HDMI (HDMI2 from Panny) connected to your Onkyo?
If that's the case, the digital audio out should not even matter, as you are using ARC, not digital audio out... or you have an optical out going from your TV to Onkyo as well?
PCM is not inferior. At the end, every audio format will eventually go to PCM, it is just a matter of who is doing the decoding. I don't know what "auto" means in Panny. Normally, you either send it intact (bitstream) or you decode and send as PCM... but again, that is assuming you are using the optical, and not HDMI ARC.
BTW, for HDMI ARC to work, you need to enable Viera Link on the Panny and also RIHD on Onkyo as well.
post #13006 of 13986
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Originally Posted by fight4yu View Post

I don't understand your connection. Did you just have 1 single HDMI (HDMI2 from Panny) connected to your Onkyo?
If that's the case, the digital audio out should not even matter, as you are using ARC, not digital audio out... or you have an optical out going from your TV to Onkyo as well?
PCM is not inferior. At the end, every audio format will eventually go to PCM, it is just a matter of who is doing the decoding. I don't know what "auto" means in Panny. Normally, you either send it intact (bitstream) or you decode and send as PCM... but again, that is assuming you are using the optical, and not HDMI ARC.
BTW, for HDMI ARC to work, you need to enable Viera Link on the Panny and also RIHD on Onkyo as well.

Shouldn't he also turn Home Theater Speakers On in the VT60?
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Originally Posted by fight4yu View Post


I don't understand your connection. Did you just have 1 single HDMI (HDMI2 from Panny) connected to your Onkyo?
If that's the case, the digital audio out should not even matter, as you are using ARC, not digital audio out... or you have an optical out going from your TV to Onkyo as well?
PCM is not inferior. At the end, every audio format will eventually go to PCM, it is just a matter of who is doing the decoding. I don't know what "auto" means in Panny. Normally, you either send it intact (bitstream) or you decode and send as PCM... but again, that is assuming you are using the optical, and not HDMI ARC.
BTW, for HDMI ARC to work, you need to enable Viera Link on the Panny and also RIHD on Onkyo as well.

Yes, one HDMI cable from Onkyo out to Panny's HDMI 2 in. Not using Optical, only ARC. Nothing else is connected to the receiver or TV other than a hard drive on the TV's USB ports.
Everything works correctly. It's just a few movies that don't have any sound when using the Onkyo UNLESS you switch from "Auto" to "PCM" on the television. Only then will I hear sound through the Onkyo's speakers on those specific movies.

 

I was just wondering if PCM was inferior or if that movie uses some kind of advanced audio codec or type not supported by the TV.

I mean, I have no problem by leaving that setting on "PCM" all the time (since all movies seem to sound fine), I'm just wondering if I'm going to miss some kind of audio detail on other movies if I do so.

 

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Originally Posted by Scott Oakley View Post


Shouldn't he also turn Home Theater Speakers On in the VT60?

When you use ARC, the TV's speakers are automatically off, home theater is on and recognized by default. At least on this TV.


Edited by ReyVGM - 2/19/14 at 2:46pm
post #13008 of 13986
Anyone use the user sound settings with the equalizer? Is that just a set by ear type thing? What are your settings?
post #13009 of 13986
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Originally Posted by Chere View Post

Samsung's overall video processing for 1080i and 720p tv content is superior to Panasonic and it's not even close. Of course we all know that's quite the opposite for 1080p content so there lies in the rub. My dream is a set with the absolute blacks of a panny and the video processing of a Samsung. I'm calling it the Panasammy VTF608500 biggrin.gif
Sharpness is no longer an issue on this year's 60 series for the 1080i signals you're talking about. It was on last year's 50 series though which led to an overall soft pic.


Yet you still say the Samsung is superior for DirecTV, and it's not even close?

Critical for me as 99% of my viewing if off of DirecvTV; I would think most people watch a lot more 1080i than 1080p. Thanks.
post #13010 of 13986
I really hate the silver trim too, constantly distracting. It's one of the reasons I wouldn't pony up for a ZT as it would be distracting on the top and bottom too, at least the VT is only really noticeable on the sides.
post #13011 of 13986
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Originally Posted by Yeti1234 View Post

I really hate the silver trim too, constantly distracting. It's one of the reasons I wouldn't pony up for a ZT as it would be distracting on the top and bottom too, at least the VT is only really noticeable on the sides.
I'm pretty sure the trim is the same on vt and zt. I see glare on top of my vt from my dimmed ceiling light.
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I'm going to exchange my VT60 for an S60. I hate the white buttons on the VT60's controller. I saw the controller for the S60 and it's much prettier with its black buttons. And the silver stand is awful too. Everything should be black.

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Originally Posted by ReyVGM View Post
 

I'm going to exchange my VT60 for an S60. I hate the white buttons on the VT60's controller. I saw the controller for the S60 and it's much prettier with its black buttons. And the silver stand is awful too. Everything should be black.

 

Why take the time to be a smart as*?

 

Everyone has their own likes and dislikes.

 

If you don't mind the silver - kudos to you! :)

 

However, not everyone is like you - and they are more than welcome to spend their own money on something they are completely happy with...

 

So chill out!

 

:)

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Originally Posted by ReyVGM View Post

I'm going to exchange my VT60 for an S60. I hate the white buttons on the VT60's controller. I saw the controller for the S60 and it's much prettier with its black buttons. And the silver stand is awful too. Everything should be black.

...can't you just use a universal remote? I don't personally find my S60's remote anything special.
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God... you guys didn't get the sarcasm and irony in my post? I've done it like 3 times now and someone always falls for it :P

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I thought your post was pretty funny. Don.'t get discouraged. Some of us actually do get it!
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Originally Posted by ReyVGM View Post
 

I'm going to exchange my VT60 for an S60. I hate the white buttons on the VT60's controller. I saw the controller for the S60 and it's much prettier with its black buttons. And the silver stand is awful too. Everything should be black.


You know I was thinking of trading in my regular FIOS remote for the BIG BUTTON version. Does that make me uncool? Like a Jitterbug user under 60!    ROFLMAO

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Originally Posted by HDTVAV View Post
 

 

Why take the time to be a smart as*?

 

Everyone has their own likes and dislikes.

 

If you don't mind the silver - kudos to you! :)

 

However, not everyone is like you - and they are more than welcome to spend their own money on something they are completely happy with...

 

So chill out!

 

:)

 

I can't wait to see what happens 5 years from now when the folks who painted and magic markered their silver trim strips go to sell their sets on craigslist or Ebay. The buyers are going to be scratching their heads wondering what these owners were thinking and dropping their offer a couple hundred bucks. I say this as someone who came very close to blacking out the chrome trim on my then almost brand new M3 Bimmer back in '97. I was this close when a voice said "Don't do it". It might not end well. Now that would have only cost me the price of new Chrome trim strips. On this set it could really ruin it. To each their own.

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Originally Posted by ReyVGM View Post

God... you guys didn't get the sarcasm and irony in my post? I've done it like 3 times now and someone always falls for it :P
Oh, you were being sarcastic? I was just about to agree with you and say I was going to to go shopping tomorrow for a new TV with a nicer remote. Also on my wish list is for it to light up on the bottom of the TV with a Samsung logo. Do you think Panasonic makes a TV with that? Otherwise i might have to look at the LG LED's. I heard they have the Samsung logo on the bottom. It think that alone is worth dealing with the clouding.
post #13020 of 13986
Does anyone else have the Sony S5100 BDP, and if so what color space do you use? Some owners of other Sony players use RGB, but I am not sure on what to leave mine at.
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