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post #2671 of 13990
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Originally Posted by sillysally View Post

For you fellow DIY calibrators.

What I am finding is that the different modes will give, once well calibrated different looks.

Cinema, will give more saturated colors, but less contrast.
Custom a darker picture.
Pro 1 (I have not tried pro 2, but I would think they are the same). Gives great contrast, great detail, great depth, not over saturated, ect. Really imo the best mode.
Setting contrast to about 65 should give you a very nice balance about 35FL, start to clip over 240.
Brightness +1 or 0. So you aren't crushing black level.
Color default setting.
Sharpness 0 to be on the safe side.
Panel, Mid.
Gamma 2.4 (Gamma target set in your calibration software 2.22)
DT 709.
All enhancements turned off.

Keep in mind I only use Blu Ray movies In my man cave with pretty good light control.
My Calibration software in the above calibrations, is Lightspace, meter is a K10-A, triplet source pattern generator is a Radiance Mini 3D.
I also use a eecolor box to store and process my large LUT calibrations, 4913 pts. compared to 10pt gray-scale and 6pt cms of a normal calibration.
However I do set very lightly my 10pt grayscale in the VT60, mainly just 100 to balance RGB.

ss

Good info thank you.

I have found myself lowering contrast each cal I do on my ZT. I have not ventured too much in the realm of contrast below 70 though. I started off in about 80 range and those were trash so I have recently been in the range of 77-72 and I'm liking those a lot. I'm going to be doing some more work on mine in a bit. I need to tighten up the grayscale some. Color is on point though. I was initially having a issue with it prior but what I did was a CMS pass first then grayscale, then went back to CMS. It kept the errors I was encountering under control.
post #2672 of 13990
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Originally Posted by CHASLS2 View Post

Went ahead and placed a order for a new Pannny 60vt60 plasma from Cleveland Plasma just now. Hope to have it this coming week.


Guess i am stuck with the 65vt30 as i can't even get a bite for $900.

Chris was fun to talk with and a nice guy.

Sounds like you have a new TV for the bedroom biggrin.gif That's what I had to do with mine. I was actually able to sell my 58VT25 to a friend for a good amount. I couldn't give teh thing away on craigslist. Think the highest offer was 650. I was also throwing in the glasses and panasonics first 3D bluray player.

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Originally Posted by DavidHir View Post


It will be a nice upgrade. I'm coming from a 65ST30...about to Craiglist mine. I'm throwing in a pretty nice stand and it's been pro cal'd (Chad B)...hoping that will get me a few extra bucks. smile.gif My friend was about to buy it, but his wife stepped in and told him it was too big. rolleyes.gif

Almost had the same thing happen with my VT25. Luckily he held steady and came through for me lol.
post #2673 of 13990
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Originally Posted by Sammie2980 View Post

Sounds like you have a new TV for the bedroom biggrin.gif That's what I had to do with mine. I was actually able to sell my 58VT25 to a friend for a good amount. I couldn't give teh thing away on craigslist. Think the highest offer was 650. I was also throwing in the glasses and panasonics first 3D bluray player.
Almost had the same thing happen with my VT25. Luckily he held steady and came through for me lol.

My 65vt30 is in the bedroom. I may have a buyer for it, if not it will replace a 42" Panny in the living room with the VT30.
post #2674 of 13990
Question about 60vt60. I have a mount K3-T-S made by K2 I suppose I am using right now for my decade old 50px80u TV. The specs on it says its usable till 60 " TVs. You guys think I can reuse ? Any drawback? are all mounts the same dimensions ... TV holes are drilled per a standard? Thanks again . My TV is to arrive on thursday, so I have to make a decision of ripping of fthe old mount and go with a new one or just reuse the same mount. Thanks!

Q2: I am coming from a very old TV so I dont know anything about the ARC. From what I read it send audio back to the receiver..great.. only problem is my receiver is in the basement connected to the tv in the living room. So new wiring is kinda impossible at this point. So the question is. Can I still use the existing setup to connect the tv to reciever using existing hdmi setup. I am assuming
1. If my exisiting cable is 1.4 compliant then i can plug it into ARC input and everything should work normally...with the apps etc sending the audio back to the receiver.
2. if my existing cable is not 1.4 compliant then, should i connect to arc input or simply regular input? I guess at this point my apps wont work right? If they dont, whats the option ?
Edited by hardrock_121 - 6/16/13 at 8:04pm
post #2675 of 13990
How is the image retention on this set? I asked in the ZT60 thread but I am also considering the VT60. I have a 60" kuro now and I am spoiled by the lack of image retention. How does the new panasonic hold up? I almost bought a VT50 about a year ago but the IR issues pushed me away. I am considering upgrading either now or just waiting one more year. Thanks in advance!
post #2676 of 13990
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Originally Posted by YOTR View Post

How is the image retention on this set? I asked in the ZT60 thread but I am also considering the VT60. I have a 60" kuro now and I am spoiled by the lack of image retention. How does the new panasonic hold up? I almost bought a VT50 about a year ago but the IR issues pushed me away. I am considering upgrading either now or just waiting one more year. Thanks in advance!
Since delivery of my 65VT60 by Cleveland Plasma just over 3 weeks ago, I've used it right out of the box like I would any other TV, though I've kept it on the THX Cinema mode. Watched a lot of movies and also lots of sports with the usual static logos. Thus far, I've seen no hint of any IR and the PQ, which was superb on day 1, has noticeably improved along the way. I'm very glad I decided on this TV and Cleveland Plasma was outstanding from the first phone call thru the fast delivery and set up.
post #2677 of 13990
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Originally Posted by Sgooter View Post

Since delivery of my 65VT60 by Cleveland Plasma just over 3 weeks ago, I've used it right out of the box like I would any other TV, though I've kept it on the THX Cinema mode. Watched a lot of movies and also lots of sports with the usual static logos. Thus far, I've seen no hint of any IR and the PQ, which was superb on day 1, has noticeably improved along the way. I'm very glad I decided on this TV and Cleveland Plasma was outstanding from the first phone call thru the fast delivery and set up.

Thanks for the reply. Have you tried any games on it? My kids would be playing PS3 on this so static images would be there. I was also intrigued by the comments some have made about the built in speakers. Supposedly the speakers are actually good for a flat panel which is a nice surprise. Because it's the main family tv, I would probably just use the tv speakers and maybe get a soundbar down the road. Can you comment on the sound?
post #2678 of 13990
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Originally Posted by YOTR View Post

Thanks for the reply. Have you tried any games on it? My kids would be playing PS3 on this so static images would be there. I was also intrigued by the comments some have made about the built in speakers. Supposedly the speakers are actually good for a flat panel which is a nice surprise. Because it's the main family tv, I would probably just use the tv speakers and maybe get a soundbar down the road. Can you comment on the sound?
I don't do any gaming, so I can't help you there. For the first couple of days I used the TV's speakers and I thought they were pretty good, and I'm sure a soundbar would be even better.
post #2679 of 13990
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Originally Posted by Sgooter View Post

I don't do any gaming, so I can't help you there. For the first couple of days I used the TV's speakers and I thought they were pretty good, and I'm sure a soundbar would be even better.

Thanks again. I am thinking it over and leaning towards just waiting another year. I did go look at the ZT next to the VT at BB and honestly could barely tell the difference. I was set on the 65" but would probably consider the 60" if I was able to sell mine and upgrade for a few hundred extra.
post #2680 of 13990
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Originally Posted by YOTR View Post

Thanks for the reply. Have you tried any games on it? My kids would be playing PS3 on this so static images would be there. I was also intrigued by the comments some have made about the built in speakers. Supposedly the speakers are actually good for a flat panel which is a nice surprise. Because it's the main family tv, I would probably just use the tv speakers and maybe get a soundbar down the road. Can you comment on the sound?


The Last of US plays fine on my VT60 and looks quite nice albeit a little dark. I have yet to see any IR but I'm avoidling anything over an hour (with bars or logo's) until the set is broken in. The VT60 speakers are IMO just average but the audio for TLofUS is great through a good HT surround system. Looks to be a good monitor for casual gaming i can't see any difference between the Panasonic and my Sony XBR3 except the obvious picture differences between a plasma and LCD.
post #2681 of 13990
I've never explored 3D before, but will on my VT60. The pair of glasses that come with it - will they perform optimally?
post #2682 of 13990
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Originally Posted by DavidHir View Post

I've never explored 3D before, but will on my VT60. The pair of glasses that come with it - will they perform optimally?
Yes
post #2683 of 13990
Although not explicitly called out in the vt60 cnet review, David states that 96hz 3d playback exhibited the least amount of crosstalk on the st60 and zt60 - so you may want to start off in that 3d mode as well.
post #2684 of 13990
Does anyone know generator D-nice use. Or was used in shootout... he b here 29th says he uses same equipment he used in shootout just wondering love my vt60 smile.gif Cannot wait to see difference from now to it's potential..
post #2685 of 13990
For all you brand new buyers of the VT60 that are worried about IR (image retention).

If you want use D-Nice's slides and settings for the first 100 to 150 hours, however I would view some full screen Blu Ray movies between the slides. Also running the sweeper is not a bad idea.

After about 300 hours your chances of IR will drop a lot. If you do see IR you can run the sweeper over night and that should solve any problem with IR.

The VT60 is much better than the VT50 with not having much of a issue with IR. Of-course this is saying you keep your settings with-in the VT60 limitations. (no blaze settings)

3D, the VT60 once more is far better for 3D PQ (much brighter using THX 3D ) than the VT50.
However the glasses that come with the VT60 work as well as the Glasses we bought for the VT50, but I like the Panasonic 3D glass that I bought for the VT50 better. Only because they have a wider side frame on them blocking side light and distractions.

ss
post #2686 of 13990
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Originally Posted by Denniswrly View Post

Does anyone know generator D-nice use. Or was used in shootout... he b here 29th says he uses same equipment he used in shootout just wondering love my vt60 smile.gif Cannot wait to see difference from now to it's potential..

Ask him.

D-Nice has a lot of hardware and imo he will use a pattern generator that is in sync with his calibration software.

Understanding he is a Pro calibrator, the most important thing will be what meter he uses. wink.gif

ss
post #2687 of 13990
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Originally Posted by sillysally View Post

For all you brand new buyers of the VT60 that are worried about IR (image retention).

If you want use D-Nice's slides and settings for the first 100 to 150 hours, however I would view some full screen Blu Ray movies between the slides. Also running the sweeper is not a bad idea.

After about 300 hours your chances of IR will drop a lot. If you do see IR you can run the sweeper over night and that should solve any problem with IR.

The VT60 is much better than the VT50 with not having much of a issue with IR. Of-course this is saying you keep your settings with-in the VT60 limitations. (no blaze settings)

3D, the VT60 once more is far better for 3D PQ (much brighter using THX 3D ) than the VT50.
However the glasses that come with the VT60 work as well as the Glasses we bought for the VT50, but I like the Panasonic 3D glass that I bought for the VT50 better. Only because they have a wider side frame on them blocking side light and distractions.

ss

I second all of this. However i prefer the glasses that came with the VT60 over last years. Just wish they were rechargeable.
post #2688 of 13990
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Originally Posted by jconjason View Post

I second all of this. However i prefer the glasses that came with the VT60 over last years. Just wish they were rechargeable.

Ahh yes then there's the sound factor for this very nice display, and you seem to have that well covered.

Enjoy as I am sure you do. smile.gif

ss
post #2689 of 13990
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Originally Posted by YOTR View Post

How is the image retention on this set? I asked in the ZT60 thread but I am also considering the VT60. I have a 60" kuro now and I am spoiled by the lack of image retention. How does the new panasonic hold up? I almost bought a VT50 about a year ago but the IR issues pushed me away. I am considering upgrading either now or just waiting one more year. Thanks in advance!
The 60 series have very little image retention. I got caught up in a 2 hour session of Geomtry Wars 2 , which has a bright green HUD with scores, etc. after using the set for ten or so hours. Using the pixel sweeper, I noticed some mild image retention but when I came back to the set five minutes later it was totally gone. On the GT50, even after 1000 hours of use, I would have still had mild IR after two or three hours of pixel sweep/mixed content. Long story short: this is an amazing gaming set.
post #2690 of 13990
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Originally Posted by sillysally View Post

Ask him.

D-Nice has a lot of hardware and imo he will use a pattern generator that is in sync with his calibration software.

Understanding he is a Pro calibrator, the most important thing will be what meter he uses. wink.gif

ss
Thats so true.. Like i know or i be useing stuff. Just bored and waiting it's not big deal hes COMING right. smile.gif
post #2691 of 13990
Well i just removed my 65vt30 from the bedroom and waiting on my new 60vt60 tomorrow. Looks kinda naked.
post #2692 of 13990
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Originally Posted by CHASLS2 View Post

Well i just removed my 65vt30 from the bedroom and waiting on my new 60vt60 tomorrow. Looks kinda naked.
does your TV really sit up that high?
post #2693 of 13990
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Originally Posted by FlyOnTheWall View Post

does your TV really sit up that high?

Yes, when i built that stand i had a 5020 Kuro and the huge Kliplisch RF7 setup, so i had to build a riser to clear my my RC7 center.
post #2694 of 13990
Finally pulled the trigger last week on the 65VT60 which is scheduled to be delivered in the next 2-4 hours (hopefully). I'm upgrading from a 50PZ700U so I'm anxious to see how much better the picture quality is. I don't plan on running the slides (although I will limit station logos, video games, etc. for the first few hundred hours), but for the most part, I'll be breaking my TV in by watching it. Are there any recommended settings people are using out of the box? Or is the consensus CNET or THX Cinema/Bright? I searched through the 2013 Settings thread, but most, if not all of the discussions there revolve around the ST60.
post #2695 of 13990
Just got my VT60 WHERE is the inpput button on the remote? I sure as heck can't find it.


OOOPPPS, i found it. Just out of the box it looks better than my 65VT30.
Edited by CHASLS2 - 6/18/13 at 8:06am
post #2696 of 13990
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Originally Posted by seaners View Post

Finally pulled the trigger last week on the 65VT60 which is scheduled to be delivered in the next 2-4 hours (hopefully). I'm upgrading from a 50PZ700U so I'm anxious to see how much better the picture quality is. I don't plan on running the slides (although I will limit station logos, video games, etc. for the first few hundred hours), but for the most part, I'll be breaking my TV in by watching it. Are there any recommended settings people are using out of the box? Or is the consensus CNET or THX Cinema/Bright? I searched through the 2013 Settings thread, but most, if not all of the discussions there revolve around the ST60.
On day one I cycled thru all the various picture options: standard, vivid, etc., and settled on THX Cinema, which looks superb to me.
post #2697 of 13990
Cleveleand Plasma was a dream to deal with it. Got the set in 2 days. Just running zoomed in full screen stuff for a while. Gotta get 300 hours on it and get Dnice to work his stuff on it.
post #2698 of 13990
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Originally Posted by Sgooter View Post

On day one I cycled thru all the various picture options: standard, vivid, etc., and settled on THX Cinema, which looks superb to me.

Thanks for the feedback. That seems to be the setting everyone agrees looks best out of the box.
post #2699 of 13990
I have to say the 60vt60 is close to my now sold Kuro 5020. It is a big jump from my 65vt30.
post #2700 of 13990
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Originally Posted by CHASLS2 View Post

I have to say the 60vt60 is close to my now sold Kuro 5020. It is a big jump from my 65vt30.

Nice setup smile.gif congrats !
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