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post #3241 of 13986
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Originally Posted by Eddie Arkadian View Post

hi guys,

I want to run slides on my new VT60 when it arrives, where can i obtain these slides?

EDIT:
are these the correct slides?
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1466472/2013-panasonic-settings-issues-thread

Thanks!

There are also Evangelo2 slides.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/583089/download-break-in-dvd-svcd#post_6230381

I am currently running them using a USB stick and picture slide show but I didn't see D-nice ones until recently.
post #3242 of 13986
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Originally Posted by jconjason View Post

Michaels issue is a non issue regarding "brightness pops". He's been shown and informed its the flash strobes at nba and nhl games that he's seeing. He just won't accept that answer.

I am quite aware of the strobe flashing lights at these events. What's happening is not that! Seeing the strobe flashing is not supposed to make the TV constantly adjust the brightness. And it's obvious when you see the picture get much brighter then fade, then 8 seconds later it does the same again. In fact it's a continuous pattern when there's action on the rink for the entire game. As a matter of fact it does this no matter what channel a game might be on. I've turned the color down to black and white and it still does this. It's not the back ground lights that are normal at these events making adjustments to the picture.

The other problem is what the picture grains into during dark or dimly lit scenes. Look....it is so obvious that there is some problem with the TV's consistancy between brighter and when say a night time scene mostly fills the screen. The black or dark area's of the picture take on this heavy looking grained/fuzzy appearance. And it doesn't go away until the scene changes or brightens.

I just wanted to know if anyone else has had enough time yet to really see all the different environments that this new model exhibits. It hasn't been out for all that long and I was hoping to get some feed back if anyone else has seen this. I re-tired my trusty 60" Sony last generation slim line projection TV and I NEVER had any of these issues. This just can't be the way that it's considered a normal picture for this model or any TV. It just may come down to I have a problem with my set. That's why I'm asking if anyone else has experienced any of this.

Thanks for any responce.
post #3243 of 13986
michael - stupid question, but have you enabled the C.A.T.S. system by chance?

btw, the grain is called dithering and if your brightness is all jacked up you'll notice it like you describe during dark/dim scenes.
post #3244 of 13986
Michael,

It really would be helpful if you posted all your settings. Without that information, there is nothing we can do for you. You seem to be the only owner that has these problems.

Larry
post #3245 of 13986
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Originally Posted by 440michael View Post

I am quite aware of the strobe flashing lights at these events. What's happening is not that! Seeing the strobe flashing is not supposed to make the TV constantly adjust the brightness. And it's obvious when you see the picture get much brighter then fade, then 8 seconds later it does the same again. In fact it's a continuous pattern when there's action on the rink for the entire game. As a matter of fact it does this no matter what channel a game might be on. I've turned the color down to black and white and it still does this. It's not the back ground lights that are normal at these events making adjustments to the picture.

The other problem is what the picture grains into during dark or dimly lit scenes. Look....it is so obvious that there is some problem with the TV's consistancy between brighter and when say a night time scene mostly fills the screen. The black or dark area's of the picture take on this heavy looking grained/fuzzy appearance. And it doesn't go away until the scene changes or brightens.

I just wanted to know if anyone else has had enough time yet to really see all the different environments that this new model exhibits. It hasn't been out for all that long and I was hoping to get some feed back if anyone else has seen this. I re-tired my trusty 60" Sony last generation slim line projection TV and I NEVER had any of these issues. This just can't be the way that it's considered a normal picture for this model or any TV. It just may come down to I have a problem with my set. That's why I'm asking if anyone else has experienced any of this.

Thanks for any responce.

It sounds like calibration and source issues, Michael. I'm not seeing any of those issues. This display puts out essentially a reference quality image, but calibration is crucial as is the source material.
post #3246 of 13986
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Originally Posted by jh901 View Post

Yes. But D-Nice has yet to post settings. Slides might be a good way to get hours on the panel, but they are intended to prep a panel exactly as D-Nice does and then theoretically his settings post-calibration will be closer to his result than otherwise.

My VT60 was recently calibrated by ChadB and I'll no longer buy a new panel unless I leave a budget for calibration. In other words, I'd buy an ST60 and get it calibrated if paying for a VT60 evaporated my calibration budget.

It makes that much of a difference?
post #3247 of 13986
yes it does - once you get it you'll never be able to go back. You just have to make sure to get one of the good ones like D-Nice or Chad B to get the effect we are all drooling about.
post #3248 of 13986
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Originally Posted by jonathan22 View Post

It makes that much of a difference?

It really does.

And once you have it done, there is no looking back. I've had Chad calibrate several displays of mine through the years and cannot say enough.
post #3249 of 13986
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Originally Posted by DavidHir View Post

It really does.

And once you have it done, there is no looking back. I've had Chad calibrate several displays of mine through the years and cannot say enough.

I will second that !! Once you have a professionally calibrated set nothing else will do and you will find yourself picking apart displays at the bar, store and your friends houses. It is truly a one way journey imo
post #3250 of 13986
For anyone on the fence on buying...because of price

Amazon has a VERY compelling offer on the 60 and 65

hard to believe good deals are coming this early....wonder if Samsung will follow?




Warren
post #3251 of 13986
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Originally Posted by turnne1 View Post

For anyone on the fence on buying...because of price

Amazon has a VERY compelling offer on the 60 and 65

hard to believe good deals are coming this early....wonder if Samsung will follow?

Holy crap, you're right.
post #3252 of 13986
Thanks for the heads-up, ordering my VT60 from Amazon right now!
post #3253 of 13986
a heck of a deal...free delivery and if you are in a no sales tax state for Amazon...that is some serious savings

I still wonder if Samsung will follow with the F8500..??

btw...Amazon is on the price match list for best buy for those that would prefer brick and mortar store purchase

Makes me wonder....will we see prices drop further not that the largest E-tailer out there has a compelling offer nationwide



Warren
post #3254 of 13986
I have recently purchased a VT60 and I love the look of the TV on THX Cinema mode but I don't like the fact that the pixel orbiter is set to auto instead of on. Can anyone provide me with the exact values to turn regular cinema mode into THX Cinema via configuration. Thank you all for your help.
post #3255 of 13986
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Originally Posted by 440michael View Post

I am quite aware of the strobe flashing lights at these events. What's happening is not that! Seeing the strobe flashing is not supposed to make the TV constantly adjust the brightness. And it's obvious when you see the picture get much brighter then fade, then 8 seconds later it does the same again. In fact it's a continuous pattern when there's action on the rink for the entire game. As a matter of fact it does this no matter what channel a game might be on. I've turned the color down to black and white and it still does this. It's not the back ground lights that are normal at these events making adjustments to the picture.

The other problem is what the picture grains into during dark or dimly lit scenes. Look....it is so obvious that there is some problem with the TV's consistancy between brighter and when say a night time scene mostly fills the screen. The black or dark area's of the picture take on this heavy looking grained/fuzzy appearance. And it doesn't go away until the scene changes or brightens.

I just wanted to know if anyone else has had enough time yet to really see all the different environments that this new model exhibits. It hasn't been out for all that long and I was hoping to get some feed back if anyone else has seen this. I re-tired my trusty 60" Sony last generation slim line projection TV and I NEVER had any of these issues. This just can't be the way that it's considered a normal picture for this model or any TV. It just may come down to I have a problem with my set. That's why I'm asking if anyone else has experienced any of this.

Thanks for any responce.

Hey Mike how many hours are on the set? The issues you are having is what my 65 was doing. However it stopped doing it after a few more hours of run time.
post #3256 of 13986
Looking for a VT60, but don't need it for a while - building a new house. Not moving in until October. Would you jump on the dropped Amazon price, or just wait it out.
post #3257 of 13986
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Originally Posted by turnne1 View Post

I still wonder if Samsung will follow with the F8500..??
You would think they will have to do something.........
post #3258 of 13986
Wow, are these prices a mistake? The 65" was ~$3100 just a few hours ago. Glad I held off on buying a set this year. May be worth waiting another couple of weeks to see where the dust settles.
post #3259 of 13986
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Originally Posted by Fingolfin269 View Post

Wow, are these prices a mistake? The 65" was ~$3100 just a few hours ago. Glad I held off on buying a set this year. May be worth waiting another couple of weeks to see where the dust settles.

The BB price for the 65VT60 will drop to $2700 before the weekend.

(Sorry for the price talk.redface.gif)

Larry
Edited by LarryInRI - 7/10/13 at 8:41pm
post #3260 of 13986
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Originally Posted by kaosweb View Post

Looking for a VT60, but don't need it for a while - building a new house. Not moving in until October. Would you jump on the dropped Amazon price, or just wait it out.
No go for it if there dion it now..it's good now imo
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post #3261 of 13986
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Originally Posted by Rpezz50 View Post

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Originally Posted by sawfish View Post

If it bothered me during normal viewing, I would definitely exchange it. For example, I had a Sony LCD with a single bright green subpixel 10 inches or so from the top left corner that was visible from 8 feet when something dark was behind it, like a dark head of hair. The online Sony Store replaced the set with very little hassle.

The good thing about pixel defects is that it's possible to get a set without any, at least for the 50" models. I've had two 50ST60s and one 50S60, and there were no pixel defects. OTOH, they all buzzed about the same, had about the same rainbow effect, line bleed, and so forth.

I can't see it when watching Normal TV content but man when I run the slides just that 1 pixel shows bad. But this seems to soon for the TV to be Losing pixels.
Keep in mind that an exchange can work both ways. There have been folks who returned otherwise fine VT60 or ZT60 set because on one dead pixel that they couldn't see without the slides. In some cases, the new sets had other problems that the owners thought were worse.

Personally I don't mind problems that I can't see as long as they don't effect having a professional calibration. Keep in mind that having or not having a dead or stuck pixel tells you nothing about any future pixel problems. I've read a lot of plasma threads the past six years, and I don't recall deteriorating pixels being a problem that you're likely to run into.

Enjoy. smile.gif
post #3262 of 13986
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

Keep in mind that an exchange can work both ways. There have been folks who returned otherwise fine VT60 or ZT60 set because on one dead pixel that they couldn't see without the slides. In some cases, the new sets had other problems that the owners thought were worse.

Personally I don't mind problems that I can't see as long as they don't effect having a professional calibration. Keep in mind that having or not having a dead or stuck pixel tells you nothing about any future pixel problems. I've read a lot of plasma threads the past six years, and I don't recall deteriorating pixels being a problem that you're likely to run into.

Enjoy. smile.gif

Good point I hope the new set don't have issues. The set I have now is very Quiet unlike other post I have seen saying that they have fan Noise. I also found 2 more pixels have gone bad or stuck and the worst part is they are right where the meter would read.
post #3263 of 13986
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Originally Posted by Denniswrly View Post

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Originally Posted by kaosweb View Post

Looking for a VT60, but don't need it for a while - building a new house. Not moving in until October. Would you jump on the dropped Amazon price, or just wait it out.
No go for it if there dion it now..it's good now imo
smile.gifsmile.gifsmile.gifsmile.gif
I wouldn't want to leave a new TV unused for that long because of the warranty and the return period.
post #3264 of 13986
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Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma View Post

You would think they will have to do something.........

Hi Chris you have a PM
post #3265 of 13986
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Originally Posted by Rpezz50 View Post

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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

Keep in mind that an exchange can work both ways. There have been folks who returned otherwise fine VT60 or ZT60 set because on one dead pixel that they couldn't see without the slides. In some cases, the new sets had other problems that the owners thought were worse.

Personally I don't mind problems that I can't see as long as they don't effect having a professional calibration. Keep in mind that having or not having a dead or stuck pixel tells you nothing about any future pixel problems. I've read a lot of plasma threads the past six years, and I don't recall deteriorating pixels being a problem that you're likely to run into.

Enjoy. smile.gif

Good point I hope the new set don't have issues. The set I have now is very Quiet unlike other post I have seen saying that they have fan Noise. I also found 2 more pixels have gone bad or stuck and the worst part is they are right where the meter would read.
Three bad pixels would start to get my attention. I'm not sure what you're referring to when you wrote "right where the meter would read". Do you mean dead center on the screen?

I'm in the exchange camp now. smile.gif
post #3266 of 13986
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

Three bad pixels would start to get my attention. I'm not sure what you're referring to when you wrote "right where the meter would read". Do you mean dead center on the screen?

I'm in the exchange camp now. smile.gif
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

Three bad pixels would start to get my attention. I'm not sure what you're referring to when you wrote "right where the meter would read". Do you mean dead center on the screen?

I'm in the exchange camp now. smile.gif
.

Don't settle for anything that you are displeased with.
post #3267 of 13986
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

I wouldn't want to leave a new TV unused for that long because of the warranty and the return period.

I suppose I could set it up now and use it if the price warrants the purchase now. By Oct, the price has to be stabilized around this price - dont you think.
post #3268 of 13986
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

Three bad pixels would start to get my attention. I'm not sure what you're referring to when you wrote "right where the meter would read". Do you mean dead center on the screen?

I'm in the exchange camp now. smile.gif

Yea dead center.
post #3269 of 13986
Worst place possible indeed.
post #3270 of 13986
Stuck pixels are much more noticeable than dead ones. That said, return it; you paid for all the pixels.
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