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post #3811 of 14005
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Originally Posted by SamOner View Post

How often does IR occur on the 60VT60? If I play 2 hours of COD will I get IR?
My son plays on average 3 hrs of Black Ops and i see no IR i do have over 600+ Hours on my 65vt60..just my set i'm talking imo,Others may have i have nothing ..No fan noise no IR ..I am in California ..and my tv is on a stand not wall mountded..smile.gifsmile.gif
post #3812 of 14005
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Originally Posted by Tony1 View Post

I thought they all had fan noise? I think some people just don't hear it as much do to that acoustical properties of the room the tvs going in.. My old VT50 and my current VT60 both do it..
I think you may be just better off going with the ST60 if it's going to bother you that much..

Many people have reported that they do not hear fan noise when the set has sound off. Which led me to assume it may not be as widespread. Ill most likely keep the set because you can only really hear
it when the sound is off or slightly during scenes of movie where there is little sound. My ocd gets the best of me I guess, but we all want what we paid for and so that is my issue.
post #3813 of 14005
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Originally Posted by Ace_BB6 View Post

Many people have reported that they do not hear fan noise when the set has sound off. Which led me to assume it may not be as widespread. Ill most likely keep the set because you can only really hear
it when the sound is off or slightly during scenes of movie where there is little sound. My ocd gets the best of me I guess, but we all want what we paid for and so that is my issue.
Imho Get it pro calibrated and not by BB and Enjoy it...smile.gif
post #3814 of 14005

Thanks, will look into that....anybody with vt60 gone directly to panasonic for their fan issue?
post #3815 of 14005
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Originally Posted by Vanguard223 View Post

Is all of this true? Was there a revision to this T.V.?
My best guess is that none of what you were told is true. I wouldn't go near that store mainly because they sound stupid. eek.gif

The only sets that are discontinued are those from previous model years, If there was a mid model revision or change to the 2013 Panasonic VT60 models, it would be known here.
post #3816 of 14005
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Originally Posted by tbass2k View Post


Thanks, will look into that....anybody with vt60 gone directly to panasonic for their fan issue?
Yes. It's too soon to know how effective the Panasonic fix will be. There should be reports in the near future. There doesn't seem to be anything wrong with the fans themselves.
post #3817 of 14005
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Originally Posted by seffys View Post

Where is the calibration settings? Link please? smile.gif
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1467563/official-panasonic-vt60-vt65-series-discussion-thread-no-street-price-talk/2960_40#post_23482549 smile.gif o my bad your wanting like Cnet settings .....
post #3818 of 14005
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Originally Posted by sillysally View Post

THX is a locked mode.. There is no need for a meter.

You can try raising contrast a few ticks, set sharpness to 0, leave color at 50, brightness you could raise by maybe 1 or leave at 0, turn off all enhancements. :wink.gif

ss


Well, I need a meter to see what the locked settings yield in terms of gamma, grayscale tracking dE, and color CIE dE. rolleyes.gif

Larry
post #3819 of 14005
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

Yes. It's too soon to know how effective the Panasonic fix will be. There should be reports in the near future. There doesn't seem to be anything wrong with the fans themselves.

Yes I would be very careful about using the fan dust cover fix. Particularly those that have there huge VT60's enclosed in cabinetry or whatever not allowing good ambient airflow.

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Originally Posted by LarryInRI View Post

Well, I need a meter to see what the locked settings yield in terms of gamma, grayscale tracking dE, and color CIE dE. rolleyes.gif

Larry

Ok, but those are the locked settings that can not be changed. So what are you accomplishing by using a old D2 as your active meter, nothing.
This is not rocket science rolleyes.gif, all you need is a free copy of AVSHD calibration disc to set the points I suggested to change, that can be changed. wink.gif

You or anybody can download there free copy of AVSHD709 here, http://www.avsforum.com/t/948496/avs-hd-709-blu-ray-mp4-calibration

ss
post #3820 of 14005
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Originally Posted by corporate View Post

After 5 minutes the screen should go black with just the track/album info box remaining and then that moves every few seconds around the screen.

Thanks, I probably didn't wait long enough to see it happen. I'll wait longer...
post #3821 of 14005
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Originally Posted by seffys View Post

I will try it soon, I think I love the THX more then custom...
Maybe some custom calibration settings?

Thx

I don't do "normal" calibration settings anymore, sorry. I do much more detailed profiling/calibration (4913 points) using LightSpace calibration software and Calman 5 pro to set my light output and ruff in color temp/RGB balance. D-Nice has said he will be posting "normal"* settings so I would suggest keeping a eye out for those settings.

However anybody with a eecolor box I can E-Mail (if E-Mail will allow a 15mb file) my very large (15mb) LUT cube settings to.

"normal"* calibration settings that can be inputted into the VT60 using the VT60's Custom and ISF modes.
"Large" (4913 points) LUT cube calibration settings can not be stored or processes by the VT60, that's why you need a external processor/storage box like eecolor.

ss
post #3822 of 14005
Just a clarification about the fan filters. They are not dust filters. They are engineered to be noise filters. The mesh spacing is much too wide to be used to collect dust. The amount of air flow allowed through the filters will be negligible, if at all, as that without them. There appears to be no blockage of air flow whatsoever.

If you want to wait for Panasonic to 'fix' the noise, it will require a technician's visit. In the UK, the Panasonic engineering solution seems to be putting foam strips along the top and sides of each fan casing. The strips are just thick enough to press against the TV's rear cover and change the air flow characteristics enough to reduce the noise to acceptable levels.

Larry
post #3823 of 14005
To those who say that the VT60's screen does a great job of cutting down on reflections.. This picture was taken in a man cave, from 17 feet away.. With very low lighting in the room, barely any windows, and the windows that are there, have dark colored metal blinds drawn down.. But do not confuse this with the tv not being able to maintain black levels when the lights are turned up, because although the screen may be highly reflective (same as my GT50) the screen does not wash out much at all when the lights are turned up..




post #3824 of 14005
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

...If there was a mid model revision or change to the 2013 Panasonic VT60 models, it would be known here.

That's exactly why I came here first. A friend pointed me here. Thank you for your input. smile.gif
post #3825 of 14005
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Originally Posted by LarryInRI View Post

Just a clarification about the fan filters. They are not dust filters. They are engineered to be noise filters. The mesh spacing is much too wide to be used to collect dust. The amount of air flow allowed through the filters will be negligible, if at all, as that without them. There appears to be no blockage of air flow whatsoever.

If you want to wait for Panasonic to 'fix' the noise, it will require a technician's visit. In the UK, the Panasonic engineering solution seems to be putting foam strips along the top and sides of each fan casing. The strips are just thick enough to press against the TV's rear cover and change the air flow characteristics enough to reduce the noise to acceptable levels.

Larry

Maybe you should read the Product Description of the covers.
"Product Description
Dust can be a computer system’s worst enemy as it has the potential to lower cooling performance or cause damage when left overly accumulated. But most fan filters are a hassle to install so SilverStone created an easy to use FF141 fan filter.The FF141 has embedded magnet in its frame so it can be effortlessly attached to any steel chassis without tools. Its 140mm size is also compatible with most 120mm fan vents so it can be used in many places that require filtering. In addition to filtering dust, the FF141’s grille can reduce noise associated with air turbulence. So for those looking for dust reduction for component longevity with increased cooling efficiency, the FF141 is an excellent buy."
wink.gif


ss
post #3826 of 14005
ss,

I read the description and bought them anyway. When I looked at them, I decided from a technical point of view that they would do no harm. If anyone decides not to use them, that's their prerogative. I am not a proponent for using them. I simply am pointing out one effective solution to the issue.

If my TV blows up because of the mesh then that's my problem -- no one else's.

Larry
post #3827 of 14005
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Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma View Post

It is true but its not like the filter is a night and day difference.......

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Originally Posted by Tony1 View Post

To those who say that the VT60's screen does a great job of cutting down on reflections.. This picture was taken in a man cave, from 17 feet away.. With very low lighting in the room, barely any windows, and the windows that are there, have dark colored metal blinds drawn down.. But do not confuse this with the tv not being able to maintain black levels when the lights are turned up, because although the screen may be highly reflective (same as my GT50) the screen does not wash out much at all when the lights are turned up..




And that is primarily where you're going to see an improvement with the ZT60...diminished reflections, but I'm glad to hear the black level is at least being maintained.
post #3828 of 14005
I'm looking for a plasma as it's going in my finished basement and there are no windows down there, so why not go with plasma over LED. I don't need 3D but was considering the Panasonic 55VT60. Problem is that the TV area that is recessed into the basement wall is only 48 inch wide. This TV is 51.9 wide. Should I just dry wall over it and go with a 60 inch? Ideally I'd like to find the biggest plasma that will fit in there that I can just simply hook a smart blue ray player and have all those "smart tv" features.
post #3829 of 14005
What patterns is everyone using for calibration?

Apl or window?

Might make another pass tonight
post #3830 of 14005
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Originally Posted by wargod View Post

I'm looking for a plasma as it's going in my finished basement and there are no windows down there, so why not go with plasma over LED. I don't need 3D but was considering the Panasonic 55VT60. Problem is that the TV area that is recessed into the basement wall is only 48 inch wide. This TV is 51.9 wide. Should I just dry wall over it and go with a 60 inch? Ideally I'd like to find the biggest plasma that will fit in there that I can just simply hook a smart blue ray player and have all those "smart tv" features.
It's sad when people pick their home theater screen size to fit a hole in the wall. eek.gif

All you need is a little sheet rock and a couple 2x4s. smile.gif

If you're hanging the TV from the wall, add a couple more 2x4s. biggrin.gif
post #3831 of 14005
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Originally Posted by slosvt View Post

What patterns is everyone using for calibration?

Apl or window?

Might make another pass tonight

Here is what Chad B found with respect to the affect of APL. This is from his review of the 60VT60 in the HDJ forum. He shows the results using normal windows from 2% to full field -- and using 5% windows with 18%, 25%, and 50% APL fields.

5% normal window
CREATOR: gd-jpeg v1.0 (using IJG JPEG v62), quality = 75


5% window with a 18% APL screen
CREATOR: gd-jpeg v1.0 (using IJG JPEG v62), quality = 75


5% window with a 25% APL screen
CREATOR: gd-jpeg v1.0 (using IJG JPEG v62), quality = 75



Take your pick. smile.gif


Larry
Edited by LarryInRI - 7/26/13 at 7:46pm
post #3832 of 14005
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Originally Posted by slosvt View Post

What patterns is everyone using for calibration?

Apl or window?

Might make another pass tonight
You'll probably get at least a few different answers. Some use varying levels of APL patterns and some use windows of varying sizes. The calibrators at the shootout recommended 10-18% windows for the Panasonic plasmas. I've seen Chad B use 18 and 25% APL. And I've seen people use small windows too (5-6.5%).
post #3833 of 14005
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Originally Posted by LarryInRI View Post

Just a clarification about the fan filters. They are not dust filters. They are engineered to be noise filters. The mesh spacing is much too wide to be used to collect dust. The amount of air flow allowed through the filters will be negligible, if at all, as that without them. There appears to be no blockage of air flow whatsoever.

If you want to wait for Panasonic to 'fix' the noise, it will require a technician's visit. In the UK, the Panasonic engineering solution seems to be putting foam strips along the top and sides of each fan casing. The strips are just thick enough to press against the TV's rear cover and change the air flow characteristics enough to reduce the noise to acceptable levels.

Larry

Do you have pictures of what they are doing?
post #3834 of 14005
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Originally Posted by kimolaoha View Post

And then how do you get it back?
Thanks.

pressing any button should turn the screen back on! except for the volume buttons. i usually just press the "info" button
post #3835 of 14005
Hello All,

I recieved my 65vt60 on tuesday and hadnt really had a chance to watch it much until today. I had it on for about 4 hours when all of a sudden the screen clicked over and when it clicked back on there was nothing but greenish colored static. Now no matter what i do (power cycle etc.) the only thing that comes on the screen is static. No menus, no home screen, nothing. The "smart viera" logo will load but thats it, it then goes straight to static. Anyone else ever had this issue? anyone know how to fix it? do i have a defective panel?
post #3836 of 14005
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Originally Posted by rrollens View Post

Do you have pictures of what they are doing?

No, none have been posted as of now. Panasonic UK is being tight lipped about it. However, at least one person had the fix completed and described it. He said that the foam strips were attached to the "chassis". That should mean a portion of the aluminum structure that holds all the boards and fans. But he may have meant that they were attached to the rear cover. I guess we'll have to wait until someone decides to post a photo and clears it up.

Larry
post #3837 of 14005
I don't think he had it done. He just saw a copy of the service bulletin.
post #3838 of 14005
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Originally Posted by brehiser View Post

Hello All,

I recieved my 65vt60 on tuesday and hadnt really had a chance to watch it much until today. I had it on for about 4 hours when all of a sudden the screen clicked over and when it clicked back on there was nothing but greenish colored static. Now no matter what i do (power cycle etc.) the only thing that comes on the screen is static. No menus, no home screen, nothing. The "smart viera" logo will load but thats it, it then goes straight to static. Anyone else ever had this issue? anyone know how to fix it? do i have a defective panel?

If it powered off then on by itself and came back with the dithering green screen, it may be infant mortality. Try unplugging the unit and wait a minute or so then plug it back in and power it on. See what happens.

Larry
post #3839 of 14005
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Originally Posted by TWD View Post

I don't think he had it done. He just saw a copy of the service bulletin.

Thanks.

Larry
post #3840 of 14005
Unfortunately even that still just powers on to the same staticy screen. No buttons on the remote do anything except the input button and that only manages to dim the static. Nothing else works.
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