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post #3931 of 14014
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Originally Posted by jconjason View Post

There isn't. The FW update was for Viera Connect. No impact on the fans.

Do manufacturers ever say that firmware updates are for one thing, yet include fixes for others?
post #3932 of 14014
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Originally Posted by Razvanel View Post

What's the manufacturing date?

R

june 2013
post #3933 of 14014
Just to chime in with some anecdotal evidence. My 60VT60 is a month old from Amazon. I always had fan noise that I could hear from 10 ft away but only if the system was muted and only if my home A/C wasn't running at the moment. It wasn't too big a bother since I only heard it if I was trying to hear it.

Out of curiosity, I did the firmware update and checked my fan noise again and they are noticeably quieter now. I don't know if it's related to the firmware or maybe simply the fan speed is based on a thermostat and it's several degrees cooler in the house this morning than it's been in the hot afternoons/evenings that I've checked on fan noise before.

Just wanted to throw in my $0.02.
post #3934 of 14014
My fan speed decreased after the update. There has been no temperature change where my tv is located at so that would not be an issue. I can still hear the wine/hum but it is less annoying than before.
post #3935 of 14014
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Originally Posted by haevolution View Post

My fan speed decreased after the update. There has been no temperature change where my tv is located at so that would not be an issue. I can still hear the wine/hum but it is less annoying than before.

I was about to say the same thing yesterday, right after I did the update, but now I am not sure. In the afternoon the fans seemed definitely quieter and the "hum" was there, just lower and more tolerable. But last night, after about 2 hours of watching, the noise was the usual annoying drone... and I am using the fan filters/covers... We might be imagining things, folks. I think there is no way to fully treat this problem.
post #3936 of 14014
My 65VT60 has fairly annoying fan noise and buzz.

The update may have reduced fan speed slightly when the temps are low. I noticed right after turning on the set that the fans seemed to be quiet.

But after the set had time to heat up, the fans sounded the same as ever.
post #3937 of 14014
I was down at the local Saturn the other day (actually a few times), checking out the new VT60. I got to say I was a bit suspect on some things even though it seemed all TV's where coming off the same feed.

They had the Panasonic WT (i think) LCD TV,
VT 50
and
VT60.

What I noticed when all where set to same settings was how much brighter colours and blacks seemed to be on the LCD. Picture also seemed sharper and more detailed, and almost to the point of HD vs DVD upscaled.

The VT 50 did have a noticeably lighter black, but still better than my older plasma.

Of course there was no sales customer around (typical German customer service) so I could get into the setting more, but I was pretty shocked. Unless they really where running a lower quality signal to this one tv, which seems odd.

The LCD I was actually pretty surprised with, but I can't believe it would be better.
Room was also darkened.
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post #3938 of 14014
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Originally Posted by Jeff Peake View Post

My 65VT60 has fairly annoying fan noise and buzz.

The update may have reduced fan speed slightly when the temps are low. I noticed right after turning on the set that the fans seemed to be quiet.

But after the set had time to heat up, the fans sounded the same as ever.

Same here.
post #3939 of 14014
Reduced fan noise after the update?
MEH! Jedi mind trick!!!
My fan noise (I prefer the term aural waterboarding) is its same obnoxious self post update. I do have a service visit next Tuesday that presumably will apply the remedy for this problem, as detailed on the AVForum thread. Hope to have good news to share come next Tuesday!
post #3940 of 14014
My VT 60 is set to be delivered this afternoon. I'm wondering about the 3D option. Anything special that I need to do with the tv and the glasses that come with it?

Also, for extra glasses for kids or company, will these work and is there anything I need to do after I get them?

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-SSG-5100GB-3D-Active-Glasses/dp/B00BIP816Q/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
post #3941 of 14014
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Originally Posted by nygiant75 View Post

My VT 60 is set to be delivered this afternoon. I'm wondering about the 3D option. Anything special that I need to do with the tv and the glasses that come with it?

Also, for extra glasses for kids or company, will these work and is there anything I need to do after I get them?

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-SSG-5100GB-3D-Active-Glasses/dp/B00BIP816Q/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

These glasses do work, however they are pretty poor quality. If its just for guests they would work fine, but you might want to look into getting some higher quality RF (bluetooth) glasses for your family.
post #3942 of 14014
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Originally Posted by Esteban Medaglia View Post

after about 2 hours of watching, the noise was the usual annoying drone... and I am using the fan filters/covers... We might be imagining things, folks.

Exactly!
post #3943 of 14014
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Originally Posted by brehiser View Post

These glasses do work, however they are pretty poor quality. If its just for guests they would work fine, but you might want to look into getting some higher quality RF (bluetooth) glasses for your family.

Ok, well I'm talking about 5 and 8 years old kids for the Samsungs.

How about older family members that visit besides the 2 my wife and I will use? Any links to the product page of one that will fit the bill and not break the bank? The Panasonic ones are $63 dollars.
post #3944 of 14014
For kids the samsungs are fine, but be prepared for them to break a few pairs as they are VERY flimsy. I got a couple pairs of these and am really happy with them so far

http://www.amazon.com/Compatible-Ultra-Clear-HD-Bluetooth-Rechargeable/dp/B00CCU4ZUW/ref=sr_1_26?ie=UTF8&qid=1375373229&sr=8-26&keywords=RF+3d+glasses

they even make them in a kids version.
post #3945 of 14014
Hello, everyone!

I'm new here and new when it comes to plasma. This holiday the new PS4 will come out and I already pre-ordered that. And since I won't expect to use it with my older than 6 years CRT, I thought it's about bloody time to replace that old cheap piece of junk. I will mainly use the new TV for playing games and watching movies. I'm also rather excited about the 3D experience. So after I made some research (some of it on this forum), I learned that plasma really is a good choice for what I want (good refresh rate for games, deep black, and overall better picture quality than what one generally gets on LEDs/LCDs).

So I nailed down my search to plasma exclusively. After some more research I decided that I want my new TV to come with active 3D instead of passive. This nailed down the search some more. Soon I found out that Panasonic makes the best overall plasma TV, so that nailed the search down even more. So it more or less brought me here: the VT60. I can't afford the ZT model, which seems to be the new king of plasma, so it had to be this one. Besides, I've read that the differences between them is mostly when exposed to direct bright sunlight. I can control the amount of light my room gets and I can make it almost as dark as night even at noon. So I really don't have any reason to buy the ZT instead of the VT.

After reading so much about this new TV set and seeing all the high praise from all reviews across the internet I thought it is time to pay a visit to the local stores and see if I can find it somewhere in the town I live. It is available for purchasing at some online stores, but one thing I read on most of the TV buying guides is that reviews are very important, but seeing the screen for yourself before purchasing it is just as important.

So with the VT60 in mind I went to the local store and, lo and behold, there it was. Even without the stand (it was mounted on the wall) I recognized it immediately only by seeing the quality of the picture. It was, without a doubt, the best screen of all the other Panasonic screens exposed at the store. Which also means there was no ZT60 shown, of course. I really was blown away by the picture quality, and the sharp contrast, and the color depth, and black level and everything else... that I just didn't think about anything else since then, and that was 2 days ago.

And now, curious to some more things about the new TV that I'm going to order, I came here. I started reading this thread, but it seems it started some good time ago and I only read about the anticipation for this TV in the first 20 pages or so. So I hope at least some of you will forgive my ignorance and the lack of will it is required to read post after post for 100 pages more and ask my question directly.

What I really want to know is if any of the new owners have any issues with their TV sets, if it's something I have to pay attention about, if there is anything required for me to do prior to installing the TV, any image settings that you recommend, what should I watch out for, mainly what are the do's and don't's. And if there is any reason I should not purchase this TV and what other choice you would recommend. I really want to know if any of you were disappointed by this and would answer with "no" when asked "after the recent experience with this TV, would you still buy it if could go back to the time of the purchase?".

Hope I didn't bore you to death with this and thank you in advance for any good hints and advice you may come up for me.
post #3946 of 14014
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Originally Posted by nygiant75 View Post

Ok, well I'm talking about 5 and 8 years old kids for the Samsungs.

How about older family members that visit besides the 2 my wife and I will use? Any links to the product page of one that will fit the bill and not break the bank? The Panasonic ones are $63 dollars.

I would go with the cheapie samsungs they are only $20. An 8 year old should be fine with supervision not sure milage varies on 5 year olds. But for adults they are fine imo
post #3947 of 14014
The Samsung 3D glasses I bought (5100?) work ok, but they are definitely not as nice as the included Panasonic glasses. We watched the animated movie 'Rio' 3D over the weekend, and several times the Samsungs turned themseleves off during the movie. It was easy enough to turn them back on, but it was rather annoying. The Panny glasses have worked great on the other hand, and their temple/frame design works well to block out some peripheral light. Just wish they were cheaper..
post #3948 of 14014
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Originally Posted by nygiant75 View Post

Ok, well I'm talking about 5 and 8 years old kids for the Samsungs.

How about older family members that visit besides the 2 my wife and I will use? Any links to the product page of one that will fit the bill and not break the bank? The Panasonic ones are $63 dollars.

You may wish to also note that the temples do not fold on the Samsungs, i.e. if you wish to store them in a case/bag, the temples must be removed. No big deal as they are friction fit (snap in/out), but repeated assembly and disassembly may weaken the connectors.

Also, disregard any included pairing instructions -- simply cue up a 3D image on your VT60, press the button on the Sammy shades for about two seconds, release, look through them and wait until 3D is indeed working through them to confirm that they actually paired (takes only several seconds).

Unlike the Panny 3D glasses, you get no confirmation icon on the TV screen, etc. Indeed, you wouldn't know they were paired until you see that they actually work correctly. Once initially paired, they pair automatically thereafter.

BTW, Hail to the Redskins!!
post #3949 of 14014
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Originally Posted by kimolaoha View Post

You may wish to also note that the temples do not fold on the Samsungs, i.e. if you wish to store them in a case/bag, the temples must be removed. No big deal as they are friction fit (snap in/out), but repeated assembly and disassembly may weaken the connectors.

Also, disregard any included pairing instructions -- simply cue up a 3D image on your VT60, press the button on the Sammy shades for about two seconds, release, look through them and wait until 3D is indeed working through them to confirm that they actually paired (takes only several seconds).

Unlike the Panny 3D glasses, you get no confirmation icon on the TV screen, etc. Indeed, you wouldn't know they were paired until you see that they actually work correctly. Once initially paired, they pair automatically thereafter.

BTW, Hail to the Redskins!!
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Originally Posted by kimolaoha View Post

You may wish to also note that the temples do not fold on the Samsungs, i.e. if you wish to store them in a case/bag, the temples must be removed. No big deal as they are friction fit (snap in/out), but repeated assembly and disassembly may weaken the connectors.

Also, disregard any included pairing instructions -- simply cue up a 3D image on your VT60, press the button on the Sammy shades for about two seconds, release, look through them and wait until 3D is indeed working through them to confirm that they actually paired (takes only several seconds).

Unlike the Panny 3D glasses, you get no confirmation icon on the TV screen, etc. Indeed, you wouldn't know they were paired until you see that they actually work correctly. Once initially paired, they pair automatically thereafter.

BTW, Hail to the Redskins!!

Cool man I appreciate that information, sounds great! Thanks for the tip about not seeing a screen confirmation. I'm pretty pumped to view 3-D material. The only 3-D material I've ever seen was about 10 seconds of a demo disc on and LED tv inside Cosco.

Redskins? Saying that word could get you banned!
post #3950 of 14014
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Originally Posted by nygiant75 View Post


Cool man I appreciate that information, sounds great! Thanks for the tip about not seeing a screen confirmation. I'm pretty pumped to view 3-D material. The only 3-D material I've ever seen was about 10 seconds of a demo disc on and LED tv inside Cosco.

Redskins? Saying that word could get you banned!

My goodness. You are in for a treat.

(Consider TEMPORARILY turning Motion Smoothing on and up and increasing screen brightness for 3D only)

Avatar 3D!

Though the entire thing is incredible in 3D, I surprisingly found most impressive the holograph screens that pop up in the control room. It's really like you can reach in and touch them. Very well done.

Other good ones for the 3D effects are (in no particular order and without comment on the substantive content):
IMAX: Under the Sea 3D
The Hobbit
Hugo
Oz the Great and Powerful
Life of Pi
NFL 2013 Redskins Championship Season Highlights
Edited by kimolaoha - 8/1/13 at 11:43am
post #3951 of 14014
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Originally Posted by kimolaoha View Post

NFL 2013 Redskins Championship Season Highlights

LOL @ redskins and championship in the same sentence smile.gif
post #3952 of 14014
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Originally Posted by brehiser View Post

LOL @ redskins and championship in the same sentence smile.gif

LOL?
Then you must have been rolling on the floor laughing your buttocks off last December when the REDSKINS won the NFC East CHAMPIONSHIP . . .
post #3953 of 14014
NFC east champions...........so they beat up on the eagles (4-12......just wow), giants (9-7), and the cowgirls (8-8).................the only real competiton was the Giants and last year was one of their worst years in memory. Anyway this is way off topic so im gonna stop there.
post #3954 of 14014
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Originally Posted by brehiser View Post

NFC east champions...........so they beat up on the eagles (4-12......just wow), giants (9-7), and the cowgirls (8-8).................the only real competiton was the Giants and last year was one of their worst years in memory. Anyway this is way off topic so im gonna stop there.

OK smile.gif
Enjoy your TV
post #3955 of 14014
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Originally Posted by kimolaoha View Post

My goodness. You are in for a treat.

(Consider TEMPORARILY turning Motion Smoothing on and up and increasing screen brightness for 3D only)

Avatar 3D!

Though the entire thing is incredible in 3D, I surprisingly found most impressive the holograph screens that pop up in the control room. It's really like you can reach in and touch them. Very well done.

Other good ones for the 3D effects are (in no particular order and without comment on the substantive content):
IMAX: Under the Sea 3D
The Hobbit
Hugo
Oz the Great and Powerful
Life of Pi
NFL 2013 Redskins Championship Season Highlights

Wow man thanks again for that information. I will definitely get a couple of those movies just to show off the performance of the TV to family and friends and myself.

Except for that one last movie you through in the bottom of your list......... Redskins and championship..........? Weren't things only filmed in black and white back then? Ha ha ha ha.

Now the most torturous part, my TV was just delivered about 30 minutes ago. It's so freaking big I had to check it out to make sure it turned on in there was no damage Because it was delivered commercial freight. Everything there turned out fine. Now it has to sit covered with the Styrofoam on the corners leaned up against the wall until probably next Tuesday or Wednesday before the installer can come out and mount it and get everything hooked up to it.
post #3956 of 14014
Gandomyr,
I seem to be just a few weeks ahead of you. I was looking to replace my older TV and my research brought me here, then ultimately led me to purchase the P60VT60. I've had it for just over a week now and I've been loving it. I didn't let the kids play any console games on it for the first several days, while I ran DNice's slides on it 24x7, or just watched some movies. Overall, I'm very impressed with the VT60 and I believe it's the best TV purchase I could have made. Some folks speak of fan noise, but I've had no issues with my TV at all. I've been using the settings suggested on CNET, which seem pretty close to the THX Cinema settings, plus some other tweaks suggested by other users. Some day I might get it calibrated, but for now I'm quite happy. I had initially planned on purchasing the ST60, but I saw the VT60 go on sale and decided to pay a few hundred more for the higher quality. I'm sure glad I did and I'd do it 10x over.
post #3957 of 14014
Thanks, Rick!

Well, since my room is very small anyway and since I'll be somewhere between 1.5 and 2 meters away from the screen and since, I have to admit, I don't afford the P60... I'll just go with the P50VT60. Also, it is on sale here, too.
Now, about your recommendations. First, the TV won't see its gaming time until the PS4 arrives, which will be some time between the end of november and the end of december. Yes, I read (on the last 2-3 pages of this topic) about some fan noise. To tell the truth, it is the last thing that would bother me. I think it would be really noticeable when the volume would be really low, so that's not really a big issue for me.

Also, I don't remember where, but I've read somewhere that it is not recommended to use the THX settings for the first hours, maybe the first hundred. And I'm really curious about this, since I also read that the THX Cinema mode is the closest to perfection preset profile. Anyone knows about this and what profile settings is recommended for the first hours of use? I also know I'm to avoid bright white and static images (like news) because of image retention, which could happen more often in the first hundred hours of use. Well, I seldom watch the news anyway since they're really depressing, and if I really have to, there are 2 other LCDs in my house, so that's no problem.

I've searched on Google for the settings CNET suggests, but I didn't find any. If someone could be so kind and share a link I would be most grateful.
post #3958 of 14014
ok just got the vt60 65" (aus).. be here in a week... any suggestions on setup/anything else i need to know... specific links or anything else....

300 hours of run in time and get it pro calibrated yea ? anyone from australia (melb) make any recommendations re calibration.... ?

cheers..
post #3959 of 14014
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Originally Posted by nygiant75 View Post

Now the most torturous part, my TV was just delivered about 30 minutes ago. It's so freaking big I had to check it out to make sure it turned on in there was no damage Because it was delivered commercial freight. Everything there turned out fine. Now it has to sit covered with the Styrofoam on the corners leaned up against the wall until probably next Tuesday or Wednesday before the installer can come out and mount it and get everything hooked up to it.

You MAY want to hook up an HDMI cable and simply play the set for several hours before the actual install. Do not lean the set against the wall, as that would block the cooling fans, but temporarily install the base by positioning two short (24" or so) footstools, etc. in front of the outside edges of the set such that you and another person can lift and set the VT60 up on the short stools while leaving the center bottom unobstructed. One person steadies the set from tipping on the stools, the other attaches the base. Then set the VT60 back down on the floor. I am not sure if the box bottom and styro would alternately support the set without tipping, but if so, that might even be easier.

Why - you may ask - should I run the set at all until properly mounted?

Well . . . my VT60 ran fantastically for two nights, sitting on its stand on the floor awaiting mounting. I was working on the cable runs with Wimbledon playing in the background when, all of a sudden, the screen went blank and the set powered off. WTF??

For whatever reason, the set then displayed the seven flashing red lights of death, and would power on only after cooling and then power down again in a minute or so.

It was defective. No fun at all to lug that beast of a box back to Best Buy for the exchange, but definitely less hassle than if I'd already mounted it.

Extremely remote chance of this happening to you too, but not a bad idea to simply power it up and let it play for a good long while before final mounting, no?
post #3960 of 14014
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Originally Posted by JimP View Post

Do manufacturers ever say that firmware updates are for one thing, yet include fixes for others?
I would say yes, if there are a few small things they will just not note them.
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