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Panasonic has moved their R&D money from plasma to OLED. How long they continue to manufacture plasma TV sets it an unknown, but it's still possible for them to make some improvements from year to year.
Lets face it, they will be making plasma's for a while, as OLED has still not been released by anyone. I think they know a 55" unit at 10K is a hard sale in this economy.
... especially if the screen is curved. eek.gif
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Has anyone else tried to look at the review of the vt60 on cnet lately? Ive been trying for a week now. I saw it a while back, but now when I try to view it, it says I broke the Internet and does not allow me to view it. I thought I remember it saying something in the review about it beating the mighty kuru and now others are saying that's not the case (maybe cnet was wrong ?)Just wondering why you can't view it anymore thanks.
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I have a question about the color saturation on the vt60. I also posted a similar question in the f8500 thread. Anyway, I went to BB magnolia to look at the samsung f8500 series and vt60 side by side. I must admit that I was more interested in the f8500 when I went in. But when I viewed the two side by side the colors on the vt60 looked way more saturated. Almost like inky or syrupy. The lighting was all the way up in the room, but it was very subdued lighting. I walked out thinking the vt60 looked better. I also didnt mess with the settings. They were out of the box settings. I went back in the following week to make adjustments on the f8500 that I read here on avs, but that did not help the saturation. The odd thing was that the vt60 was set on an out of box setting the whole time. Does anyone think that I missed something on the f8500 that would cause the colors to looked washed out compared to the vt60? I do think in someways the color on the f8500 after the change in settings looked a little more accurate than the vt60, but it def didn't help the saturation at all. Just curious. Thanks guys.
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anyone know if the VT60 has internal patterns for calibration?
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CNET works fine for me. Yes, they claim that both the ZT and VT beat the Kuro.

http://reviews.cnet.com/best-hdtvs/
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I'm watching a movie right now on my Blue-ray player. All the sound is loud but the voices are quite. Just using the TV speakers. Any help?

has a good tinker to get the sound right on mine, my settings for the standard speakers are:

over 30cm from wall (try this even if your set isn't 30cm from wall)
digital remaster on
bass boost on
bass 2 for TV viewing / 5 for ps3
treble 15
Edited by rubez - 8/27/13 at 11:59am
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AVKIK - I don't think you'll be able to get more of a direct comparison than the one you experienced, unless you take them both home to your living room. Is it possible that the 'saturation' you are noticing is due to the better contrast on the vt60? or possibly less apparent on the f8500 due to the greater brightness?
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CNET works fine for me. Yes, they claim that both the ZT and VT beat the Kuro.
http://reviews.cnet.com/best-hdtvs/
They are real close, close enough to call a three way tie......
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Also check out the blu-ray sets for Game of Thrones....SO PRETTY
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That is true, plasma's have been out for a while and no "real big" technology issue's.

I found "burn in" not IR on my iPAD 2. I was like wtf??!! Apple says its normal...that also had me like wtf?!! Sorry been reading between this thread and the s60. Considering the s64 or vt60 I know two totally different panels. Anyone in here had a S64 and then got the VT60? I have to read a lil more in here but how's IR on this VT series. S64 seems to have very little to none. But just wondering but no worries I'm reading more as we speak.
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I haven't seen this posted yet..we used to talk about this all the time in KURO threads and since this is basically the new style KURO what is the best manufacturer date to have for these sets.? Anyone know what I mean?
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I haven't seen this posted yet..we used to talk about this all the time in KURO threads and since this is basically the new style KURO what is the best manufacturer date to have for these sets.? Anyone know what I mean?

Manufacturing date for the Kuro (500M?) was only an issue towards the end of their production because of what some claimed was poor quality control by Pioneer as production wrapped up. The only possible advantage with dates for either the VT or ZT would be whether or not the fan fix was done during manufacturing. Some have mentioned that has happened on some recent purchases. I don't know if that has been verified though. Other than that there isn't anything to discuss regarding when it was made based on what has been shared on this forum.
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Manufacturing date for the Kuro (500M?) was only an issue towards the end of their production because of what some claimed was poor quality control by Pioneer as production wrapped up. The only possible advantage with dates for either the VT or ZT would be whether or not the fan fix was done during manufacturing. Some have mentioned that has happened on some recent purchases. I don't know if that has been verified though. Other than that there isn't anything to discuss regarding when it was made based on what has been shared on this forum.
Just wondering because I am torn between the 65S64 vs the 60VT60. 1994$ VT60 at PC Richards 1299$ for s64 at Costco. That's before warranty
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anyone know if the VT60 has internal patterns for calibration?

no, not for our needs
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I have a question about the color saturation on the vt60. I also posted a similar question in the f8500 thread. Anyway, I went to BB magnolia to look at the samsung f8500 series and vt60 side by side. I must admit that I was more interested in the f8500 when I went in. But when I viewed the two side by side the colors on the vt60 looked way more saturated. Almost like inky or syrupy. The lighting was all the way up in the room, but it was very subdued lighting. I walked out thinking the vt60 looked better. I also didnt mess with the settings. They were out of the box settings. I went back in the following week to make adjustments on the f8500 that I read here on avs, but that did not help the saturation. The odd thing was that the vt60 was set on an out of box setting the whole time. Does anyone think that I missed something on the f8500 that would cause the colors to looked washed out compared to the vt60? I do think in someways the color on the f8500 after the change in settings looked a little more accurate than the vt60, but it def didn't help the saturation at all. Just curious. Thanks guys.

Yes, you missed the point that to maximize the picture quality of these display that they have to be calibrated.

Making comparisons among uncalibrated displays is like racing cars that haven't been tuned.
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I found "burn in" not IR on my iPAD 2. I was like wtf??!! Apple says its normal...that also had me like wtf?!! Sorry been reading between this thread and the s60. Considering the s64 or vt60 I know two totally different panels. Anyone in here had a S64 and then got the VT60? I have to read a lil more in here but how's IR on this VT series. S64 seems to have very little to none. But just wondering but no worries I'm reading more as we speak.

I had a 65S64, and then upgraded to the 60VT60 last week, so my opinion might be of interest to you. In terms of picture quality, I'll say up front that the S64 is no slouch so if you go that route, you won't be disappointed. With that in mind, the VT60 flat out has better picture quality and the black levels are better, even to an untrained non-videophile eye. The S64 is a little brighter, and the extra 5" of diagonal screen real estate is not to be underestimated. I had no idea how much bigger a 65" screen feels compared to a 60" screen until they were side by side in my house. You really can't get an accurate perspective in a large store like Best Buy or Costco. Call me crazy, but I also preferred the minimal smart features of the S64 when compared to the VT60. Whoever designs Panasonic's user interface should be fired, because it's a complete mess. I use an Apple TV for streaming anyway, so in the end it's a non-issue for me.

Does the VT60 have fan noise? Yes. Is it overblown by many in these forums? Perhaps. I can't speak for anyone else, but it doesn't bother me. It's no more bothersome than any other background noise in my house (AC, refrigerator, computer fans). Buzzing, on the other hand, is a different issue for me since it's not in the "white noise" category, but thankfully neither the S64 or VT60 have excessive buzzing.

I had planned on upgrading to the 60ST60, but the back order situation on Amazon was annoying and eventually just cancelled the order. I also got Amazon to price match Paul's TV, so at $1899, I couldn't pass up the 60VT60. I can't imagine any sales price getting much lower than that, and if I decide to sell it in the next year or so, I won't be taking too much of a hit. If Panasonic can figure out how to increase the brightness next year, they very well may have achieved all they can from plasma tech, and can finally concentrate on to OLED knowing they gave it their all.

As for which one to get, I'd buy as much quality as you can afford without having to finance. If you can't pay cash, don't do it. Mortgage payments? No problem. Car payments? fine. TV payments? I don't think so.
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Financing is not the best option, unless you have great credit and can get a 0% APR. It's still burdensome (especially for those on tighter budgets) but can give you up to 24 months to pay it down.
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It's 0% at BB and PC Richards for 24 months and to my understanding if paid off on or before the 24 months is up you get 0% for good
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Any I meant to ask...what was the main reason for the upgrade in TV but down grade in size? @djsketchie
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Any I meant to ask...what was the main reason for the upgrade in TV but down grade in size? @djsketchie

The price I was able to get the VT60 for was the deciding factor. It is worth $600 more than the S64, but not $1200 in my book. I'll miss the extra 5" of screen real estate, but the PQ makes up for it. It was a tough call, but the VT60 probably fits my living room better. The girlfriend said the 65" was too big, but the 60" was just right.

As far as juddering or motion handling on the VT60, I never turn on the motion smoother except for sports because it makes everything else look strange to me. I also don't own a Bluray player (probably in the minority on that one), so I can't speak to 24p issues for either set. I didn't notice any motion handling issues on the S64. If you reread the CNET reviews for both sets, both only had 700 lines of full motion resolution with motion smoother turned off, so they're equal in that regard.

My vote: Get the 65S64 before they go out of stock and don't look back. Just pay for the thing flat out and be done with it, and enjoy your beautiful, massive TV. If it disappoints you, which I'm sure it won't, you always have 90 days to return.
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hiwaits, any updates on the pio 5080?
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hiwaits, any updates on the pio 5080?
Please. eek.gif

It's a 6010. It is in the stage between an estimate being submitted and the warranty company coming back with an offer. The repair company believes that it needs a main board, and the projected availability of a new supply of main boards is the end of September.

So far so good. smile.gif
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Please. eek.gif

It's a 6010. It is in the stage between an estimate being submitted and the warranty company coming back with an offer. The repair company believes that it needs a main board, and the projected availability of a new supply of main boards is the end of September.

So far so good. smile.gif
Good deal. Glad its under warranty.
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I'm surprised it's still under warranty...you must've purchased a 5-year extension, htwaits.
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I'm surprised it's still under warranty...you must've purchased a 5-year extension, htwaits.
Yes. It expires in December.

If you are buying a TV or monitor from a dealer that isn't officially on the authorized list for the specific manufacturer and model, it might be a good idea to do the following. Get a written acknowledgement that the extended warranty you buy will start at the termination of the stated manufacturer's warranty without any exceptions. Otherwise, you could be at the mercy of the extended warranty company's interpretation of your manufacturer's warranty. .The warranty company might later claim that your manufacturer's warranty is not valid, and that your extended warranty officially started the day you bought the TV. In a situation like that, my warranty would have expired last December.

Any insurance company can be difficult to deal with. We once had a problem with a claim against a client of another auto insurance company. After a three month delay, I finally called them to find out what was holding up the claim. The adjuster said, "We are declining your claim because our client stated that your son caused the collision." I only had to ask one question, "Why do our photographs of the damage show the impact point was at a right angle to the front seat passenger door." The guy actually ask if I had such pictures. When I said yes, he said the check will be in the mail today. biggrin.gif
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I'm surprised it's still under warranty...you must've purchased a 5-year extension, htwaits.
Yes. It expires in December.

If you are buying a TV or monitor from a dealer that isn't officially on the authorized list for the specific manufacturer and model, it might be a good idea to do the following. Get a written acknowledgement that the extended warranty you buy will start at the termination of the stated manufacturer's warranty without any exceptions. Otherwise, you could be at the mercy of the extended warranty company's interpretation of your manufacturer's warranty. The warranty company might later claim that your manufacturer's warranty is not valid, and that your extended warranty officially started the day you bought the TV. In a situation like that, my warranty would have expired last December.

Any insurance company can be difficult to deal with. We once had a problem with a claim agent of the another auto insurance company in an accident that one of our sons had. After a three month delay, I finally called the claims agent to find out what was holding up the settlement. The adjuster said, "We are declining your claim because our client stated that your son caused the collision." I only had to ask one question, "Why do our photographs of the damage show the impact point was at a right angle to the front seat passenger door." The other driver was in a college parking lot at a stop sign when the person's foot slipped off of the break. The claims agent actually ask if I had such pictures. When I said yes, he said the check will be in the mail today. biggrin.gif

Sorry about my bureaucracy rant. redface.gif
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basically im wanting to know if there will be any difference long term, if i just leave my current settings as thx cinema and colour temperature to cool and wait until i reach 300 hours and get it professionally calibrated, or should i do the cnet settings now for the first few hundred hours. any feedback regarding this would be appreciated, cheers
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Hello I need some help with my vt60. Every time I try and use it as a computer monitor (via hdmi) it plays for a few seconds and loses input signal. I'm using a Nvidia driver is that helps. Any ideas? Thanks
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Sounds like it's loosing it's HDMI handshake.

Check to see if there are newer drivers for your Nvidia card. You might want to google your computer's model number along with loosing video and see if that returns some responses.

Otherwise, you might have to go vga from the laptop to the display.

What's you computer's model number?
Edited by JimP - 8/28/13 at 5:36am
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