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post #6001 of 13971
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Originally Posted by maseline_98 View Post

I apologize for asking where I can find a affordable TV mount....it seems to stirred some people....I certainly don't know why I couldn't just use the dayton mount I already have. It's "rated" for 150 lbs and the TV is only 93 lbs....
Suggest you contact the mfr of your dayton mount, in case there's some other key factor besides the weight of your TV.
post #6002 of 13971
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Originally Posted by maseline_98 View Post

I apologize for asking where I can find a affordable TV mount....it seems to stirred some people....I certainly don't know why I couldn't just use the dayton mount I already have. It's "rated" for 150 lbs and the TV is only 93 lbs....
As long as the holes line up and you have the proper thread and length of screws I dont see why you couldnt use it. It would probably be a good idea to contact Dayton mount though.
post #6003 of 13971
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

I wasnt aware that we were discussing strictly the design of tv mounts and the Chinese engineers that you personally work with. Youre first statement didnt make that clear. In that case I cannot disagree with you.

I was specifically responding to this statement on the previous page:

"There is a big difference between a Chinese engineered wall mount and a us engineered wall mount"

Which is a generalization and not based in any fact. I felt compelled to correct it to more accurately reflect that it is more likely in the way the mounts are fabricated than in the way they are designed.

BTW, there is absolutely no reason whatsoever for a wall mount to be north of $700 other than excessive pride. It is an assembly of steel components and modern computerized manufacturing processes can produce these at less than $20 a copy even right here in the US.
post #6004 of 13971
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Originally Posted by Sammy2 View Post

BTW, there is absolutely no reason whatsoever for a wall mount to be north of $700 other than excessive pride. It is an assembly of steel components and modern computerized manufacturing processes can produce these at less than $20 a copy even right here in the US.
Completely agree. I must have missed it. Did someone pay $700 for a tv wall mount?
post #6005 of 13971
Nevermind. Its the Peerless wall mount. I didnt bother to click on the link before.
What a waste of money.
Sorry Cleveland.
post #6006 of 13971
I'm considering purchasing the new Pioneer SP-SB23W sound bar to go with my new 55VT60. Has anyone tried placing this sound bar directly in front of the TV and if so does it block the infrared remote sensor? I have a 7.1 home theater setup in our living room but wanted the sound bar for our dining room where there is limited space to work with. Thanks for any assistance.

I may also need to raise the TV a few inches as it sits lower than the old 37 inch LCD that it replaced. So also considering a new stand or TV riser.
post #6007 of 13971
All this talk about IR and I'm beginning to wonder myself. I've just been doing break in slides and I'm a little over 250 hours, but I too have noticed some IR issues. Burn in of course hasn't been an issue yet, but even when navigating through the TVs menus for just a few minutes I can see text that stays on the screen for quite a while after it was gone. This wasn't really an issue on my previous Kuro I just sold a couple of weeks ago. It definitely has me concerned that if I was to play a game or watch some TV with a static display for just 1-2 hours that I would have a very difficult time getting the IR off. Seems pretty silly to have to do this much to keep the panel safe.
post #6008 of 13971
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

As long as the holes line up and you have the proper thread and length of screws I dont see why you couldnt use it. It would probably be a good idea to contact Dayton mount though.

I called dayton via partsexpress and they said there shouldn't be any problem using it as long as its under the weighy since the holes are standard.
post #6009 of 13971
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Originally Posted by maseline_98 View Post

I called dayton via partsexpress and they said there shouldn't be any problem using it as long as its under the weighy since the holes are standard.
You may have to get different screws. Is it a universal mount that came with an assortment of screws?
post #6010 of 13971
Is ir really that much of an issue on this set? Just picked one up as a replacement for a Pioneer 950 that never displayed a hint of ir. All this long lasting ir talk has me actually considering a best buy warranty.
post #6011 of 13971
IR is basically not covered by warranty so don't get the warranty solely for that purpose.
post #6012 of 13971
Best Buy warranty covers IR. But it's more expensive than Squaretrade or Mack.
post #6013 of 13971
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Originally Posted by Sammy2 View Post

IR is basically not covered by warranty so don't get the warranty solely for that purpose.

Actually I think IR is covered under Best Buy's - but I wouldn't buy it just for that..

http://www.geeksquad.com/intelligence/blog/service-plans-know-the-details-before-you-buy/
post #6014 of 13971
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We’ve yet to find the one service plan that’s perfect for everyone. In fact, we don’t think it exists.

Quite telling actually. BBY / Geeksquad have reinforced my sentiment about ESP'S..
post #6015 of 13971
Best Buy warranty coverage is the absolute best out of any of them (and yes, the price matches). Even if one pixel goes bad, you're covered (which has occurred on my ZT at about 3 months of ownership so I'm screwed without that warranty, though I suppose one bad pixel isn't really worth $600). Concerning IR and build dates, I have the ZT with a # of 1132 (purchased in early June), so I'm not sure about the batch theory. On the bright side, 90 minutes of the screen wipe has pretty much removed all traces of IR acquired on last night's Packer/Vikings game.
post #6016 of 13971
My VT60 has a build date of July 2013. I've just been doing break-in slides so I can't tell how big of an issue it will end up really being, but what I've witnessed so far just switching through the menus for just a few minutes does have me a little curious. Don't think permanent burn in has really been mentioned all that much, but if it takes all this work just to get rid of the IR from watching a couple of football games that does seem a little over the top and a big hassle to keep up with.
post #6017 of 13971
I agree...I hope (against hope) that the 4K 70" OLEDs arrive sooner versus later. redface.gif I have a feeling they will exhibit aging anomalies as well, however.
post #6018 of 13971
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Originally Posted by 5150zx View Post

Well, if it's any consolation, Panasonic will eliminate IR in their 2014 line-up! wink.gifwink.gifwink.gifwink.gifwink.gif

I'm pretty sure this is a joke unless Panny went back into the plasma market an decided not to retract from it...if this is a joke it's pretty damn funny.

Also to comment on IR...I'm only 5 hours into this TV been working a lot so that's all I could
Accomplish so far (also waiting to hear from Pauls) so I'm still prone to IR right now. I will say that this was an issue only KURO for like a day and then I never saw IR again after that. Anyway I've read a few places where IR was not that great during break in a few hundred hours into the TV but as time goes on the set got less prone to IR. So hopefully it levels out at some point...if not just switch up your content for here and there. I'm a channel flicker anyway so I'm not to concerned.
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For your question, go to Setup in the menu and turn the Professional mode on. Then go to Picture > Advanced picture > 1080p pure direct. The source needs to be outputting 1080p x 23.976 to set 24p Direct in to 24Hz.

So do this and the pro settings should show??

Also what is the best mode to put the TV in right now I am very early into...Dnice only has settings for custom mode from what I've read in the link unless I missed something
post #6020 of 13971
Replacement 65vt60 comes tomorrow. For good measure I went to Comcast and swapped out my HD DVR box for a 3D capable HD DVR box and got the high speed HDMI cable. I am recording a hockey game now and that will be first thing I play on the set and sure hope to not see blurry blue lines, center ice lines and face off circle lines like last time!

I am going directly to THX Cinema and disabling all "enhancements" and playing hockey recording. Fingers crossed!
post #6021 of 13971
Nooooooo......don't play hockey. (voice trailing off into the night)
post #6022 of 13971
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Originally Posted by JimP View Post

Nooooooo......don't play hockey. (voice trailing off into the night)



Why?
post #6023 of 13971
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Originally Posted by hdspringer98 View Post

I am going directly to THX Cinema and disabling all "enhancements" and playing hockey recording. Fingers crossed!

Isn't the THX Cinema mode more for watching movies and not sports?

For Sports, i use Custom mode.
post #6024 of 13971
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Originally Posted by Sammy2 View Post

Why bump the contrast so high?

I'd say 60 is low. My calibrator had to set the contrast to 87 to get about 35 ftl out of the set. I played with that low of a setting to try and avoid IR but it was just too dim.
post #6025 of 13971
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Originally Posted by SeLfMaDe111985 View Post

I'm pretty sure this is a joke unless Panny went back into the plasma market an decided not to retract from it...if this is a joke it's pretty damn funny.

It's a joke...........................and thank you. cool.gif
post #6026 of 13971
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Originally Posted by RandyWalters View Post

Isn't the THX Cinema mode more for watching movies and not sports?

For Sports, i use Custom mode.

Could be, I'll try both and see what's what.
post #6027 of 13971
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Originally Posted by SeLfMaDe111985 View Post

Man oh man...lots of IR talk major IR talk...good thing this discussion happened after my purchase or else I wouldn't of bought one. I woulda went 65" s60. Oh well this TV is insane

Not sure how you missed the IR discussions. There have been dozens of posts on the subject through this entire thread, including several lengthy ones by me.
post #6028 of 13971
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Originally Posted by SeLfMaDe111985 View Post

So this TV is beyond jaw dropping...

If the hours on the TV are at zero...and there's no major damage as far as cracks to the screen or dents to the back of the TV..would you say I'm pretty good to go guys and just enjoy my set? I inspected with a flashlight...on the bottom left corner there's a few very very minor scratches nothing gashed in or deep...but it's no where else on the screen at all I can't find anything else on it. But in that corner there's just a few very faint scratches if I wasn't so OCD I prolly would have never seen them...like I literally had to shine the light 10 different ways to see them and had to be pretty close. About 4-5 very little less than a 1/4 inch. I don't feel it's an issue but just wanted opinion.

Pauls claimed te set was brand new and that the serial number shows it's brand new and not used or open box. And I don't think its possible to reset the TVs hours is it? As far as looking at them through the help menu

On your guys TVs did plastic come around the entire TV to protect the frame? I only had some on the bottom. I'm a little worried I may have an open box set or used set!!

Reading your latest posts, it looks like you are still considering retuning your panel because of scratches you needed to tilt your head and use a flashlight to see. It wasn't clear to me if it's on the screen or the bezel. Either way, if you can't see them from the normal viewing position and everything else is ok with the panel, I think you're making a big mistake. The chances the new panel will have the same or other issues seems pretty high. You may be expecting too high a degree of perfection from a mass-produced product, and will never be able to just enjoy the thing.
post #6029 of 13971
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Originally Posted by dpjb View Post

Not sure how you missed the IR discussions. There have been dozens of posts on the subject through this entire thread, including several lengthy ones by me.

No I saw it before...but IR is a discussion in every plasma thread including the KURO threads. But I haven't seen it in a while and the ones I saw the last few pages really raised concern. Unless it's being over exaggerated...IR is unacceptable on a set that originally costs over 2K. Got my KURO for around the same price as the VT60 with discount from Pauls. Never once had an issue with IR like it's discussed here. But that was Pioneer..expensive builds compared to more economically priced TVs
post #6030 of 13971
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Originally Posted by dpjb View Post

Reading your latest posts, it looks like you are still considering retuning your panel because of scratches you needed to tilt your head and use a flashlight to see. It wasn't clear to me if it's on the screen or the bezel. Either way, if you can't see them from the normal viewing position and everything else is ok with the panel, I think you're making a big mistake. The chances the new panel will have the same or other issues seems pretty high. You may be expecting too high a degree of perfection from a mass-produced product, and will never be able to just enjoy the thing.

I expect quality control and that is not quality control. The surface scratches that are barely noticeable is understandable but still unacceptable to be sold at a new item price. Also on the bezel where the speakers are is a gash about one inch long. That's unacceptable to me. I understand not everything will be perfect but the last time I ordered a TV offline it had no issues like that. I like to get what I pay for and if the scratches are manufacturer imperfections I expect a credit of some kind or an exchange. I didn't really worry with my S60 cuz it cost 600$ and was practically a steal but your talking in the thousands.

It's partially my fault I did not notice this upon delivery but I was looking for major damages not surface scratches. But oh well we will see what happens.

Viewing is not altered in anyway but the same could be said about dead or stuck pixels. But people still find them extremely aritating.

Other than that the TVs PQ is phenomenal. Now hopefully this IR talk or issue goes away with time. I'm very used to no IR on the kuro but that's long ago tech and this is new and awesome but still a little concerning.
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