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post #6211 of 13987
Please, enough with the damn scratches and whether to return it or not. Make up your mind and stop wasting space on this valuable forum. Enough already!!!!!! eek.gif
post #6212 of 13987
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Originally Posted by maseline_98 View Post

If youvthe buy the warranty through squaretrade, its 30 days, but if you buy the squaretrade warranty through costco, its 60 days.

I went to costco to buy a warranty today but didn't know I needed tob take the bestbuy receipt....probably will get it this weekend...can probably just order it on theor website but havent cinfirmed that yet....also....I dint think u even need a membership to order from their website

This is correct. I ordered one today. It basically works out to $2 a month for a 48 month warranty.
post #6213 of 13987
I'm sure most of you guys have seen this, but if you're on the fence about getting a VT60/VT65 you'd better decide soon: http://panasonic.co.jp/corp/news/official.data/data.dir/2013/10/en131031-8/en131031-8.pdf
post #6214 of 13987
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Originally Posted by Schwa View Post

I'm not sure why all the consternation. To me this is clear-cut. Return the set to Paul's, get a refund, and order a new one from Amazon. Done. Especially if Paul's doesn't have any more in stock and you don't mind eating the $100 fee.

Because it would be more than 100$...I'm just saying I would rather offer that or try to press them to just give me that type of few if they will not exchange. If all works out I'm prolly order from Cleveland Plasma or VE. I would go amazon but don't feel like paying the taxes just like at BB
post #6215 of 13987
What height do you guys mount the TV for best viewing(I.e. height from the bottom of the bezel to the floor)?
post #6216 of 13987
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Originally Posted by maseline_98 View Post

What height do you guys mount the TV for best viewing(I.e. height from the bottom of the bezel to the floor)?

I've always understood that the answer to this is: the center of the TV should be equal to or within 10 degrees up above your line of sight when you are seated in the main viewing position. So, its not really the height of the bezel, its the center of the TV screen. I think this is one of those subjective things tho-no hard and fast rule.
post #6217 of 13987
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Originally Posted by SeLfMaDe111985 View Post

Because it would be more than 100$...I'm just saying I would rather offer that or try to press them to just give me that type of few if they will not exchange. If all works out I'm prolly order from Cleveland Plasma or VE. I would go amazon but don't feel like paying the taxes just like at BB

Given your expectations for the physical condition of the set, I think you have to pony up and pay BB the tax. Take your buddy and a van (rent one if you have to), open and inspect the thing right at the front door before you even take it out of the store. Then hope and pray it doesn't have any electronic defects you discover later on.

You will know for sure it's brand new out of the box.

You will know for sure there were no scratches or gashes on it.

You can exchange or return it on the spot if you're not 100% satisfied.

You are going to drive yourself crazy and spend $100s more on shipping if you keep ordering online.
post #6218 of 13987
This is why you should buy your TV from Amazon:

I returned my first 65VT60 to Amazon because of non-uniformity issues. I received its replacement which has very similar non-uniformity issues. I can live with the issues if they're typical, but without knowing that for certain (and most evidence suggests plasmas are virtually perfect with regard to uniformity), I wanted to do another exchange, but didn't want to get a TV that's worse than my current one or has a different issue. So, Amazon has agreed to ship me a third replacement television and will let me keep whichever one I determine is best. They'll schedule a later date (after the delivery date) to pick up the TV I'm returning.

And that is why you should buy your TV from Amazon. smile.gif
post #6219 of 13987
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Originally Posted by Schwa View Post

This is why you should buy your TV from Amazon:

I returned my first 65VT60 to Amazon because of non-uniformity issues. I received its replacement which has very similar non-uniformity issues. I can live with the issues if they're typical, but without knowing that for certain (and most evidence suggests plasmas are virtually perfect with regard to uniformity), I wanted to do another exchange, but didn't want to get a TV that's worse than my current one or has a different issue. So, Amazon has agreed to ship me a third replacement television and will let me keep whichever one I determine is best. They'll schedule a later date (after the delivery date) to pick up the TV I'm returning.

And that is why you should buy your TV from Amazon. smile.gif
Thats pretty incredible really that they would just let you keep returning tvs until youre happy. They lose money every time they have to pay for delivery and they usually have the lowest price if they match. If they match lowest price and end up paying a company 3 times for delivery and pickup I dont see how they could possibly make anything on the deal.
I assume you have to have enough money to cover both tvs that you are auditioning at home until you return one. That could prove difficult for some.
post #6220 of 13987
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

Thats pretty incredible really that they would just let you keep returning tvs until youre happy. They lose money every time they have to pay for delivery and they usually have the lowest price if they match. If they match lowest price and end up paying a company 3 times for delivery and pickup I dont see how they could possibly make anything on the deal.
I assume you have to have enough money to cover both tvs that you are auditioning at home until you return one. That could prove difficult for some.
Well, I don't intend to return TVs ad infinitum. This third one is it...either it's better than the second one and I keep it or it's the same/worse and I return it. I was thinking the same thing about delivery but I assume they have fixed price contracts negotiated with the freight carriers such that they pay a flat fee for delivery services; otherwise, there's simply no way they could offer the 30-day no-questions-asked TV return policy they have.

Money isn't an issue since it's on a credit card anyway. I guess if one didn't have enough of a limit on their card that could be an issue...
post #6221 of 13987
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Originally Posted by Schwa View Post

This is why you should buy your TV from Amazon:

I returned my first 65VT60 to Amazon because of non-uniformity issues. I received its replacement which has very similar non-uniformity issues. I can live with the issues if they're typical, but without knowing that for certain (and most evidence suggests plasmas are virtually perfect with regard to uniformity), I wanted to do another exchange, but didn't want to get a TV that's worse than my current one or has a different issue. So, Amazon has agreed to ship me a third replacement television and will let me keep whichever one I determine is best. They'll schedule a later date (after the delivery date) to pick up the TV I'm returning.

And that is why you should buy your TV from Amazon. smile.gif

They gave me a full refund on my VT50 even tho I had it for 6 months, I had the yellow blob issue. Agreed Amazon is the best when it comes to customer service.
post #6222 of 13987
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Originally Posted by chunon View Post

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Originally Posted by Schwa View Post

This is why you should buy your TV from Amazon:

I returned my first 65VT60 to Amazon because of non-uniformity issues. I received its replacement which has very similar non-uniformity issues. I can live with the issues if they're typical, but without knowing that for certain (and most evidence suggests plasmas are virtually perfect with regard to uniformity), I wanted to do another exchange, but didn't want to get a TV that's worse than my current one or has a different issue. So, Amazon has agreed to ship me a third replacement television and will let me keep whichever one I determine is best. They'll schedule a later date (after the delivery date) to pick up the TV I'm returning.

And that is why you should buy your TV from Amazon. smile.gif

They gave me a full refund on my VT50 even tho I had it for 6 months, I had the yellow blob issue. Agreed Amazon is the best when it comes to customer service.

They keep me coming back. I don't know how they keep their prices so relatively low and provide such a level of service. I mean phone/chat/email support in India or Philippians is one thing but the actual shipping of product and just giving stuff away if return shipping is more than or close to its worth is a whole other thing all together. Just the other day I opened a chat for an LP (yes, a black vinyl copy of Dark Side of the Moon; the CD sucks because it is compressed and not gap-less) that was back ordered when I ordered it just to check on it and the guy gives me a $5 credit towards a future purchase to compensate for them not finding a copy to deliver to me. They also matched Paul's price on the VT60 for me even though their policy states otherwise.
Edited by Sammy2 - 10/31/13 at 8:34am
post #6223 of 13987
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Originally Posted by Sammy2 View Post

I just ordered it and didn't get charged the non-member fee.. Odd. They'll probably catch it but IDK because I didn't put in a CC number. I got a confirmation email from Costco but not from SquareTrade yet.

Did you order online? That is odd. Thank you.
post #6224 of 13987
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Originally Posted by 5150zx View Post

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Originally Posted by Sammy2 View Post

I just ordered it and didn't get charged the non-member fee.. Odd. They'll probably catch it but IDK because I didn't put in a CC number. I got a confirmation email from Costco but not from SquareTrade yet.

Did you order online? That is odd. Thank you.

Yes, online. It was supposed to be 5% extra. Then when I actually registered it this morning it said I have 5 years too. I have an email into SquareTrade right now actually to get it straightened out because I would rather skip year 5 than have some sort of paperwork error in the beginning make them void the whole thing. But if they don't respond I will let it go as I have a paper trail for that now.
post #6225 of 13987
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Originally Posted by Sammy2 View Post

Yes, online. It was supposed to be 5% extra. Then when I actually registered it this morning it said I have 5 years too. I have an email into SquareTrade right now actually to get it straightened out because I would rather skip year 5 than have some sort of paperwork error in the beginning make them void the whole thing. But if they don't respond I will let it go as I have a paper trail for that now.
Good call.
post #6226 of 13987
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

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Originally Posted by Sammy2 View Post

Yes, online. It was supposed to be 5% extra. Then when I actually registered it this morning it said I have 5 years too. I have an email into SquareTrade right now actually to get it straightened out because I would rather skip year 5 than have some sort of paperwork error in the beginning make them void the whole thing. But if they don't respond I will let it go as I have a paper trail for that now.
Good call.

That was my thinking. For some reason they think I bought the TV at Costco but I got it at amazon and, as required by ST, I emailed the amazon receipt explaining this error in setting up the warranty. I think that they will fix it when they put all this together but we shall see.
post #6227 of 13987
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Originally Posted by Sammy2 View Post

That was my thinking. For some reason they think I bought the TV at Costco but I got it at amazon and, as required by ST, I emailed the amazon receipt explaining this error in setting up the warranty. I think that they will fix it when they put all this together but we shall see.
I think youre better off to get it all straightened out for peace of mind if nothing else. Thats what a warranty is for. Last thing you want is to have a bunch of trouble with it later when/if you really need it.
post #6228 of 13987
Another member in the ZT60 thread discovered this terrible news ! >>> http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1383210619

That's it, watch the prices rise...........
post #6229 of 13987
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Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma View Post

Another member in the ZT60 thread discovered this terrible news ! >>> http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1383210619

That's it, watch the prices rise...........

My biggest fear is returning the set I have and not able to get another one. How long
You think the VT60 will be available
For?
post #6230 of 13987
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Originally Posted by SeLfMaDe111985 View Post

My biggest fear is returning the set I have and not able to get another one. How long
You think the VT60 will be available
For?
For the love of God, man...as soon as you get return approval from Paul's, order a new one from Amazon (or whoever). If you use a credit card to buy the new set, there should be no delay between getting return approval on the old TV and ordering the new TV. Besides, Panasonic isn't stopping panel production until December so there should be new TVs in the pipeline until at least then.
post #6231 of 13987
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Originally Posted by Schwa View Post

For the love of God, man...as soon as you get return approval from Paul's, order a new one from Amazon (or whoever). If you use a credit card to buy the new set, there should be no delay between getting return approval on the old TV and ordering the new TV. Besides, Panasonic isn't stopping panel production until December so there should be new TVs in the pipeline until at least then.

Yes sir...I'm hoping they will take it back I just sent over the pictures but haven't heard from them yet so I'm waiting for now. Hopefully it will be no cost to me.
post #6232 of 13987
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Originally Posted by SeLfMaDe111985 View Post

My biggest fear is returning the set I have and not able to get another one. How long
You think the VT60 will be available
For?

There were still some ST50's and VT50's available at BB and Amazon weeks into the release of the VT60's so relax, they aren't going to disappear just like that.
post #6233 of 13987
After lurking here for months, the Panasonic announcement almost everyone saw coming gave me the impetus to replace my TH-50PZ700U and push the Checkout button on a TC-P65VT60.

Got Amazon to price match Paul's promo on the 65" VT60, which should be in my home this coming Wednesday.

Thank you to everyone who's posted here for all the guidance and information, it made all the difference!
post #6234 of 13987
Are people using angled port savers for their HDMI cables with this set? My cables are relatively thick and can't really be bent. They're visible from the side of the TV and don't look all that great. Thinking either some port savers or maybe some Redmere cables from monoprice would solve this. They look like they'd be thin enough to not have any problem making the bend and be easier to route.
post #6235 of 13987
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Originally Posted by DasRetroKid View Post

There were still some ST50's and VT50's available at BB and Amazon weeks into the release of the VT60's so relax, they aren't going to disappear just like that.

Yes and no...Panasonic probably produced more of those sets than they are of the 2013 line-up because they knew (months ago?) that this year was the end. So, they likely didn't manufacture as many 2013 sets, therefore less inventory to move. I hope you're correct though...
post #6236 of 13987
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Originally Posted by bern43 View Post

Are people using angled port savers for their HDMI cables with this set? My cables are relatively thick and can't really be bent. They're visible from the side of the TV and don't look all that great. Thinking either some port savers or maybe some Redmere cables from monoprice would solve this. They look like they'd be thin enough to not have any problem making the bend and be easier to route.

Good question. Along with the Red LED that is on when the set is on the location of the HDMI inputs leaves much to be desired. I have a 25 foot HDMI cable from monoprice that is ½" thick and doesn't bend well in that location but I think for the length of this run it will no longer pass High Speed HDMI with an angled adapter.
post #6237 of 13987
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Originally Posted by bern43 View Post

Are people using angled port savers for their HDMI cables with this set? My cables are relatively thick and can't really be bent. They're visible from the side of the TV and don't look all that great. Thinking either some port savers or maybe some Redmere cables from monoprice would solve this. They look like they'd be thin enough to not have any problem making the bend and be easier to route.

I am using Redmere cables. They are very thin and barely noticeable. They don't stick out past the side of the TV like my older thick HDMI cables would have.
post #6238 of 13987
Just took delivery of my 55VT60 today and it is definitely a great set. No fan noise issues (though I have an August build), no visible damage, and no noticeable IR so far. I'm upgrading our living room TV from a 42G10. Now I have to decide if I want to upgrade the basement from a Pioneer 500m, but that's another discussion with the wife.

I loaded up the Netflix app and noticed that THX picture settings were not available. Is there a way to use the Netflix app with THX Cinema. Would the Professional/ISF setting be possible with a calibration? The picture was super sharp and crisp coming over wireless too which was great. It did seem like motion smoothing was on still even after I turned it off on Cinema mode. Can anyone else share their Netflix app picture settings?
post #6239 of 13987
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Originally Posted by DasRetroKid View Post

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Originally Posted by bern43 View Post

Are people using angled port savers for their HDMI cables with this set? My cables are relatively thick and can't really be bent. They're visible from the side of the TV and don't look all that great. Thinking either some port savers or maybe some Redmere cables from monoprice would solve this. They look like they'd be thin enough to not have any problem making the bend and be easier to route.

I am using Redmere cables. They are very thin and barely noticeable. They don't stick out past the side of the TV like my older thick HDMI cables would have.

Maybe I should order one of those but the one I have works..
post #6240 of 13987
Well....I got my 65vt60 delivered today. No discernable imperfections that I see. 2 guys dropped itoff and they had it setuo in a few minutes. I mean it was lighting fast. They were in and out in under 15 minutes after I took an led flashlight and gave the go ahead. They told me that to save the box until at least the 15 day return period was over and I might find anything wrong with it and might want to return it.

I received a october mfg date and confirmed that it did not have any time on it.

I have the slides setup.....next Saturday can't come any faster. I was actually freaking out a little bit when they had me running the cable (via htpc) for a few minutes to confirm that it worked.

I can't wait to get a solid look at the picture quality of this new piece of gorgeous equipment.

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