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post #61 of 489
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Originally Posted by riffer View Post

Seems a little political, so I'm going to wait and see.

Good science fiction holds a mirror up to today's world, helps us sometimes see things in a new light. Allegory and metaphor are usually essential parts of the equation. It's pretty obvious, from the trailers, what that allegory is in this case. It's all in how the concept is executed. I know the cast (Damon, Foster) and the visuals have me excited. And that may be enough to get me to buy a ticket.
post #62 of 489
Some reveiwer on CBS (Edelstein?) kinda ripped it this morning. Seems he liked, but calling it predictable at the same time. I'll still need to see it for myself.
post #63 of 489
The script was reviewed on numerous websites last year and none praised it. They all said District 9's script was a lot better so I guess this isn't too surprising. Many director's often trip on their sophomore feature.
post #64 of 489
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Originally Posted by Matt_Stevens View Post

The script was reviewed on numerous websites last year and none praised it. They all said District 9's script was a lot better so I guess this isn't too surprising. Many director's often trip on their sophomore feature.

Hmmm...not good. Not many good or even decent films are made from bad scripts.
post #65 of 489
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Originally Posted by rezzy View Post

Some reveiwer on CBS (Edelstein?) kinda ripped it this morning. Seems he liked, but calling it predictable at the same time. I'll still need to see it for myself.

Yes, it was Edelstein. To be fair, he generally doesn't care for too many big mainstream movies, much less smash-boom action/sci-fi movies.
post #66 of 489
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Originally Posted by Will2007 View Post

Hmmm...not good. Not many good or even decent films are made from bad scripts.

Absolutely right! Actors and directors are only as good as their screenplays. Garbage in means garbage out.
post #67 of 489
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Originally Posted by gwsat View Post

Absolutely right! Actors and directors are only as good as their screenplays. Garbage in means garbage out.
Except when it comes to Ridley Scott, it seems when reading this forum. biggrin.gif
post #68 of 489
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Originally Posted by Josh Z View Post

To be fair, he generally doesn't care for too many big mainstream movies, much less smash-boom action/sci-fi movies.
What critic does?biggrin.gif

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Originally Posted by gwsat View Post

Absolutely right! Actors and directors are only as good as their screenplays. Garbage in means garbage out.
True, except big-time directors (in particular) and some actors get to pick and modify screenplays/scripts to a certain extent.

The bottom line is it's not possible to make a good movie from a sh_tty screenplay.
To paraphrase Ebert and Siskel, it's all about writing.wink.gif
post #69 of 489
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Originally Posted by oink View Post

What critic does?biggrin.gif

Not all film critics are stuffed shirts, but Edelstein certainly is. There was no chance that he'd ever like this.

That said, none of the trailers for Elysium have done anything for me.
post #70 of 489
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Originally Posted by Josh Z View Post

That said, none of the trailers for Elysium have done anything for me.
I won't say I have been overwhelmed by the trailers....
Nonetheless, Damon has a habit of picking good movies and I was pleasantly surprised with D9.

At this point, the glass is half-full and I will be paying for a seat at my local multi-plex.wink.gif
post #71 of 489
I'm jonesin' for some good sci-fi, so will be eagerly anticipating every new arrival (Looper doesn't do anything at all, Dark Skies isn't original enough, The Host is for teens and Oblivion is just OK). I'm due for a hit...
post #72 of 489
I'm seeing it this afternoon... I'll report back! smile.gif
post #73 of 489
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Originally Posted by Morpheo View Post

I'm seeing it this afternoon... I'll report back! smile.gif

Excellent looking forward in reading your review
post #74 of 489
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Originally Posted by Franin View Post

Excellent looking forward in reading your review
Ditto.
post #75 of 489
Six months ago this was #1 on my list of want-to-see films. Now I am not going to fork over my money. I can't talk about why in this thread, as you might guess biggrin.gif but no way am I paying my hard earned cash to watch a ludicrous political fantasy that has not been getting reviews anywhere near as good as what District 9 received.

By the way, District 9 was sensational. I walked out of that theater stunned that such an atypical film would be released by a studio.
post #76 of 489
I saw this last night in my theatre in RPX, similar to Imax

the movie was really good, was gritty as District 9 was, the visuals in this movie were awesome as well, 4/5 stars for me smile.gif
post #77 of 489
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Originally Posted by Oniichan View Post

I saw this last night in my theatre in RPX, similar to Imax

the movie was really good, was gritty as District 9 was, the visuals in this movie were awesome as well, 4/5 stars for me smile.gif

I'm looking forward to seeing Elysium too, although one of The Oklahoman critics really panned it, 1 Star. I didn't think her review was very convincing, though, so I am still up for the film.
post #78 of 489
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Originally Posted by gwsat View Post

one of The Oklahoman critics really panned it, 1 Star. I didn't think her review was very convincing, though, so I am still up for the film.
One way to figure out what the reviewer is saying is to look at their track record. If that person harps on certain genre, then you know not to take that reviewers words seriously when it comes to the same genre.
post #79 of 489
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Originally Posted by bcruiser View Post

One way to figure out what the reviewer is saying is to look at their track record. If that person harps on certain genre, then you know not to take that reviewers words seriously when it comes to the same genre.

I agree but the critic who wrote the Elysium piece has been all over the map so I never know where she might come down. It seemed to me that she was turned off by the film's violence and dystopian darkness. I had a hard time taking that seriously, though. After all, Elysium is a Neill Blomkamp film.smile.gif
post #80 of 489
Good review by Manohla Dargis in the NY Times today. Larry Toppman of the Charlotte Observer - a first rate critic IMO - gives it a B- and has this to say:

“Elysium” still outstrips summer’s mindless mediocrities, from “The Lone Ranger” to “Pacific Rim.” But after the brilliance of the Oscar-nominated “District 9” four years ago, South African writer-director Neill Blomkamp has come down a peg."
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"In an era when so few big-budget directors have anything to say, Blomkamp still runs ahead of most of that pack. Hollywood-itis does wear off, so I hope he’ll limit his exposure to the moguls and checkbooks of L.A."

I'm planning on buying a rare ticket to my local Octoplex for this one.
post #81 of 489
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Originally Posted by archiguy View Post

Good review by Manohla Dargis in the NY Times today. Larry Toppman of the Charlotte Observer - a first rate critic IMO - gives it a B- and has this to say:

“Elysium” still outstrips summer’s mindless mediocrities, from “The Lone Ranger” to “Pacific Rim.” But after the brilliance of the Oscar-nominated “District 9” four years ago, South African writer-director Neill Blomkamp has come down a peg."
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"In an era when so few big-budget directors have anything to say, Blomkamp still runs ahead of most of that pack. Hollywood-itis does wear off, so I hope he’ll limit his exposure to the moguls and checkbooks of L.A."

I'm planning on buying a rare ticket to my local Octoplex for this one.

Came down a peg? We are owed better movies. This is garbage.
post #82 of 489
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Originally Posted by darthrsg View Post

Came down a peg? We are owed better movies. This is garbage.

You've seen it?
post #83 of 489
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Originally Posted by darthrsg View Post

Came down a peg? We are owed better movies. This is garbage.

You've seen it?
post #84 of 489
Oh no, just joshin, because you know if one thing is out of place like a full grown man smoking a cigar in a post apocalyptic world the whole movie is trash. smile.gif

I'm looking forward to it. Oblivion, Star Trek, Pacific Rim, and this make it a banner year for scifi stuff.
post #85 of 489
Reviews I've read are all over the place, which usually means I need to see it for myself.

I remain cautiously optimistic that this will be the best flick of the summer, which souldn't be a terribly high bar to surpass.
post #86 of 489
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Originally Posted by mr. wally View Post

Reviews I've read are all over the place, which usually means I need to see it for myself.

I remain cautiously optimistic that this will be the best flick of the summer, which souldn't be a terribly high bar to surpass.

Yep.
post #87 of 489
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Originally Posted by darthrsg View Post

Oh no, just joshin, because you know if one thing is out of place like a full grown man smoking a cigar in a post apocalyptic world the whole movie is trash. smile.gif

I'm looking forward to it. Oblivion, Star Trek, Pacific Rim, and this make it a banner year for scifi stuff.

Got me. Late in the day for me and didn't sleep well last night so I'm a little slower than normal. (No Jokes People!) biggrin.gif
post #88 of 489
Thread Starter 
Bought the 1st show on opening night yesterday @10pm because as the person who started this thread titled - Movie of the Year, I feel it was my AVS duty to see if it was that or another pooper like MoS.

Well ok the good stuff. The weapons, artillery. futuristic gadgets and toys were just awesome and totally creative. The 1st 15 min the movie blew my mind with its epic sweeping earth view of our planet sitting next to Elysium this uber modern earth station for the rich. The massive scale of our earth looking like 3rd world slums, kinda like what you saw in Wall-E but in real time and it all looked "real" and not CGI. That stuff was just awesome and enchanting to look at, remind me and took me back to 1977 watching Star Wars and Alien for the 1st time. Blonkamp did a remarkable job in this aspect, upping his game with the imagery and landscape.

And everything to me felt like an extension of D9 which is good, you want that. Again the distinction and separate "class" between the have and have nots which I love about post-apocalyptic themes. If you liked that in D9 I don't see why anyone wouldn't like it displayed here again with more fervor. And there's prob even more combat and fighting between the humans and robots which is also taken to another notch and that was also amazing with many cool guns, bombs, radars, stealth hunting devices. That was prob my fav part of the movie.

Now the stuff that will rub many the wrong way and what I can see from the negative reviews is the bogged down of propaganda and politics that was ingrained throughout the movie and it was not good, at least to me. I really don't why Blonkamp had to go there, and make this movie some preachy numb down parallel to our problem with immigration and the Mexican border. The end act is what destroyed the whole thing. It was so hokey-pokey liberal wishy-washy view of what they think should happen to those trying to cross the border. Why, why, why??? IDK. What I liked so much with D9 is that it was able to infuse some of it but here it was so blatantly in your face and obvious spoon fed it will make you sick.

I can't really give it a thumbs up to go see it now in the theaters but this is def a rental when it's released. There was so much promise here to make this a grand epic Sci-Fi action thriller, but instead it chose to make it personal statement and dumb it down to all the masses like watching one them Sci-Fi TV shows like Falling Skies & Continuum.
post #89 of 489
Thread Starter 
Quotes of the Day, saw these on AICN talk back and thought they were great and deserve a post.


I am going to support this movie's anti-establishment message and illegally download it. Then I am going to have a screening at my house, and show it to the whole neighborhood.


Nothing is more greedy....... than feeling entitled to what someone else has.
post #90 of 489
All the people that hate all the stuff I love are hating Elysium. This means it will probably chew bubblegum and kick much ass. I really need to find a sitter so I can go to the damn theater. Pacific Rim, Trek, and this will all be bluray viewings for me. Oblivion is ordered and on the way.
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