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post #61 of 628
Well I read you and Zombie's experience for the ones I cannot see, so I think that is as good as my own experience pretty much when I recommend something. I'd love to go through as many as you people have, but I am so busy coding on these tools that I don't have the time. If I stopped visiting the forums so much, I'd probably have been done with these tools years ago smile.gif

I've been through a lot of projectors myself SLOWLY over the years, but you guys are at a lightning pace. It took me almost 2 years just to see E-shift 1, and I still haven't seen e-shift 2. I did see an RS-46 though, but that doesn't have E-Shift. I still haven't got a chance to test a new Sony, though I did see one in a demo but it was half-working, there was something wrong with the HDMI cabling or something.

It is really hard to tell much from Dealers to be honest, as I can't tell anything most of the time. I still can't tell if the Runco I saw was sharper than the Benq, though I am pretty sure it was now that I had more time with the Benq and saw how ring-a-ding-ding the Benq sharpening filter can be at times (though I've gotten used to it, so I'm actually using HTPC on the Benq instead of the JVC).

I'm actually coding from my Couch in the living room lately ON a projector screen (sorry if I already mentioned that). At first I couldn't do it, but I got used to it.
Edited by coderguy - 5/8/13 at 8:27pm
post #62 of 628
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Originally Posted by coderguy View Post

It is really hard to tell much from Dealers to be honest, as I can't tell anything most of the time. I still can't tell if the Runco I saw was sharper than the Benq, though I am pretty sure it was now that I had more time with the Benq and saw how ring-a-ding-ding the Benq sharpening filter can be at times (though I've gotten used to it, so I'm actually using HTPC on the Benq instead of the JVC)..

I haven't seen the W7000 so I can't comment directly. I did own the W5000 (.95" DC2 DMD) and from what I've read in the W6000 thread people who "upgraded" to the W6000 from the W5000 said it wasn't as sharp as the W5000. From recollection, I'd say the W5000 and Runco looked equally sharp. The Runco may have been a hair sharper but the difference was something you'd only have seen on a really pristine blu-ray anyways. So from that deduction I'd make a wager that the BenQ isn't as sharp (but probably sharp enough for 95% of people) compared to the Runco.

This is getting a little OT. So let me summarize that the HC5 is fantastic projector that you'd have to spend nearly triple the street price to get something that looked drastically better. Get them while you can and hopefully the unit you pick up had a good lens sample and good convergence.
post #63 of 628
The HC5 would be my pick most likely if I were buying a projector mostly for 2d usage today.
post #64 of 628
Thanks for the info on the service menu.
post #65 of 628
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Originally Posted by Elix View Post

I bought the Monstervision RF emitter and glasses. They should work fine with HC5.

Are you sure of this? Looking at it, it appears you need the Mitsubishi emitter to make the Monster emitter work- it takes the IR from the Mits and converts it to RF. Please let me know if I am wrong.
post #66 of 628
Thread Starter 
You may be right. In that case I'll just buy up the Mits emitter.
post #67 of 628
The Mitsubishi's have a unique 5 pin cable that isn't compatible with the 3 pin VESA interface on the MV3D transmitter. The MV3D IR receiver though should be compatible, it's worked on most of the projectors i've tried it with.

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post #68 of 628
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Originally Posted by zombie10k View Post

The Mitsubishi's have a unique 5 pin cable that isn't compatible with the 3 pin VESA interface on the MV3D transmitter. The MV3D IR receiver though should be compatible, it's worked on most of the projectors i've tried it with.

HC9000.jpg

I think I am missing something in the translation here. Are you saying it works when connected to the IR receiver via the stick on interface or that it can work another way?
post #69 of 628
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Originally Posted by larrimore View Post

I think I am missing something in the translation here. Are you saying it works when connected to the IR receiver via the stick on interface or that it can work another way?

You'll need the Mitsubishi IR transmitter and MV3D IR receiver in close proximity. The RF transmitter has 5 lights on it that will indicate the signal strength that it's receiving from the projector.

The RF transmitter requires power, a blackberry charger or typical microusb cell phone charger will work fine.
post #70 of 628
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Originally Posted by zombie10k View Post

You'll need the Mitsubishi IR transmitter and MV3D IR receiver in close proximity. The RF transmitter has 5 lights on it that will indicate the signal strength that it's receiving from the projector.

The RF transmitter requires power, a blackberry charger or typical microusb cell phone charger will work fine.

Gotcha- that is what I thought. I have several pairs of the Optoma RF glasses, but they are pretty heavy. Otherwise, I will just try the IR glasses first. I have a few of them with my Samsung TV (not sure of compatibility) and I understand the PS3 glasses will work, which are pretty light.

Since you are a glasses aficionado, are most IR glasses cross compatible? If so, maybe I will try to get some of your new favorites from Sharp.
post #71 of 628
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Originally Posted by larrimore View Post

Gotcha- that is what I thought. I have several pairs of the Optoma RF glasses, but they are pretty heavy. Otherwise, I will just try the IR glasses first. I have a few of them with my Samsung TV (not sure of compatibility) and I understand the PS3 glasses will work, which are pretty light.

Since you are a glasses aficionado, are most IR glasses cross compatible? If so, maybe I will try to get some of your new favorites from Sharp.

very few IR glasses are cross compatible unless they are universal glasses like the Xpand 103 and 104.
post #72 of 628
Thread Starter 
You can buy an emitter for Mitsubishi HC9000/HC5 here in Russia for only $500-800. What a bargain! rolleyes.gif Maybe it's a chance to grab that Trude 3D emitter. I wonder if Trude/MV3D combo will work.
post #73 of 628
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Originally Posted by Elix View Post

You can buy an emitter for Mitsubishi HC9000/HC5 here in Russia for only $500-800. What a bargain! rolleyes.gif Maybe it's a chance to grab that Trude 3D emitter. I wonder if Trude/MV3D combo will work.

I think that is the point. Mitsubishi went with a 5 pin design that basically makes it proprietary. You'll likely need the Mits IR unit one way or another. I have seen them on Ebay for a lot less than you are talking about, but then you have shipping and duty fees to worry about.
post #74 of 628
I know that many people have noted the bright corners with this projector, has anyone found discolorations like these (my lamp is at about 30 hours):







post #75 of 628
that has to be a defective copy. Can you get it replaced from the seller?
post #76 of 628
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Originally Posted by 3dmaven View Post

I know that many people have noted the bright corners with this projector, has anyone found discolorations like these (my lamp is at about 30 hours):


Is it likely that this was there all along and you are just now noticing it, or did you bring up these same screens earlier and it wasn't there?

Also, did you bring up the projector's internal test patterns to make sure it is the same on them?
post #77 of 628
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Originally Posted by 3dmaven View Post

I know that many people have noted the bright corners with this projector, has anyone found discolorations like these (my lamp is at about 30 hours):


I saw an Epson 5010 that sort of looked similar to this last yellow pic (though it had a bit of red/orange in it and had even worse uniformity than this pic shows, as well as poor convergence).
We RMA'd it, it was defective.

If it doesn't bother you in regular viewing, you could live with it maybe. However, I'd send it back.
post #78 of 628
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Originally Posted by larrimore View Post

Is it likely that this was there all along and you are just now noticing it, or did you bring up these same screens earlier and it wasn't there?

Also, did you bring up the projector's internal test patterns to make sure it is the same on them?

Yeah, the color shift (bluish on left, yellowish on right) and blob in the middle has been there since I got it (I now have 40 hours on it). I get the same issue with the internal test patterns. I will try centering the lens next time I fire it up to see if that has any effect on it. I do notice it in real life viewing, for instance when there is a lot of sky in the frame, and skin tones just left of the middle look great, but they look waxy to the right of the middle. Looks like I may be one of the first to send the thing back huh?
post #79 of 628
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Originally Posted by 3dmaven View Post

Yeah, the color shift (bluish on left, yellowish on right) and blob in the middle has been there since I got it (I now have 40 hours on it). I get the same issue with the internal test patterns. I will try centering the lens next time I fire it up to see if that has any effect on it. I do notice it in real life viewing, for instance when there is a lot of sky in the frame, and skin tones just left of the middle look great, but they look waxy to the right of the middle. Looks like I may be one of the first to send the thing back huh?

UGH!
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* Was your unit from the $1799 ebay seller?

Jason



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Edited by DaGamePimp - 5/18/13 at 2:01pm
post #80 of 628
Thread Starter 
I watched Life of Pi in 2D. Amazing PQ, great story, acting and effects. I'll be glad to re-watch it in 3D.
Now the weakest link in the chain is the screen. But not for long, I'm ordering a motorized tab-tensioned EluneVision Reference 4K screen. Can' t beat this screen in performance/price ratio!
post #81 of 628
Thread Starter 
Today I managed to solder the adapter to connect Monstervision MAX 3D RF emitter. It worked! Now I am only having issues with playing back BD3D content on my PC.
post #82 of 628
what program / hardware setup are you using? I use an Nvidia GT430 and either PDVD or TMT5, both generally work ok for most BD ISO's.
post #83 of 628
Thread Starter 
I had PDVD 11 and I remember that before (on my plasma) I played back BD3Ds without issues. Now it starts but doesn't display 3D, 2D only. I tried switching modes on the projector, tried it with/without darbee to no result.

Edit: Wait, no, nevermind. It works! Haha!
Edited by Elix - 5/25/13 at 8:47am
post #84 of 628
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Originally Posted by Elix View Post

Today I managed to solder the adapter to connect Monstervision MAX 3D RF emitter. It worked! Now I am only having issues with playing back BD3D content on my PC.
Is this the pinout you followed?


I tried hooking that up to a non-Mitsubishi IR emitter and it didn't work.
post #85 of 628
Thread Starter 
You shouldn't hook it up to an IR emitter, this adapter is for hooking up a MV3D RF emitter directly into the Mits projector.
The pinout you posted is correct (the upper part is for MALE 5-pin mini-din, the middle part is for FEMALE). You need to solder only those 3 connectors, so you'll be needing a 3-wire cord. I cheated and bought a finished 4-contact male jack 3.5mm to 4-contact male jack 3.5mm. Then I disassembled one end to see what wires to which contact. There were 4 wires of different colors, I only had to use 3 of them and in the right sequence.
post #86 of 628
Thread Starter 
I don't get very good results regarding 3D crosstalk using MV3D glasses and emitter. Maybe some of you can post a photo of your best result of the test pattern found in the first post of this topic? http://www.avsforum.com/t/1291751/how-much-crosstalk-ghosting-has-your-3d-tv-test-it
I'll do and post mine.
post #87 of 628
Hey guys, what is a very good ceiling mount to use with the HC5? I need something that won't shake loose easily, but is easy to adjust if it does fall out of position. I don't want to spend anymore than $150 either.
post #88 of 628
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Originally Posted by shadyJ View Post

Hey guys, what is a very good ceiling mount to use with the HC5? I need something that won't shake loose easily, but is easy to adjust if it does fall out of position. I don't want to spend anymore than $150 either.
I have the Peerless PRGUNV and it is fantastic. I don't know exactly how much it will cost with the ceiling bracket and whatever arm you need to use, but it should be in the ballpark. I have the Peerless spider projector mount on it that works fine, some people prefer to get the mounting plate designed specifically for their projector.
post #89 of 628
I will look into that one, thanks.
post #90 of 628
My HC5 arrived last week and is definately a keeper for my setup. Seems to be representative of most reports here - and I will echo, it is BIG compared to my old RS10.



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