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post #151 of 338
Can anyone advise on how to format an external HD to add storage to the 4K server?

I got a Seagate Backup Plus 4TB to use, but the sever isn't seeing it. I assume it needs to be formatted a certain way?

Thanks
post #152 of 338
Recommend you insert before going to 4K application, then:

My 4K > Settings > Storage Information > Start Formatting

If you don't have the most recent X1 sw it will download that first.

Lee
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Edited by LeeSoFl - 1/21/14 at 6:25pm
post #153 of 338
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Originally Posted by e11271 View Post

You are right; probably in the near future all processors will handle HDCP 2.2 and I guess Sony didn't think it was worth the cost to add that capability to both ports. I guess I was hoping that is was all there so it becomes somewhat future proof....

Regarding the tablet, I am expecting that when an update is available from Sony, the least they could do is either warn that the 4k remote app doesn't handle 2.3 or thoroughly test the new version with atleast it own apps. I don't think that is too much to ask. The tier 2 support rep agreed and I guess/hope it is why they quickly released the new software patch.

At the end of the day, it does work now and I guess this is one of the things you get for being a somewhat early adopter. What I find also puzzling is while folks with Sony 4k TVs can use their TV remote to control the streamer, us projector guys can't. That seems very odd.

Don't know that it would have been a cost consideration to add the HDCP 2.2 capability to both HDMI ports when you look at the cost of both the top of the line displays and the VW1100 for example, yet they still limited it to the one port in both cases. I wouldn't be surprised, at least in the case of the 1100/1000 projectors, to see a further upgrade path made available should it be needed down the track, in the same way the 1000 upgrade board has been introduced.

I think you're overestimating the amount of attention that a company the size of Sony would pay to the effects of a OS update for a device like the Xperia Z tablet on a niche piece of software such as the 4K ultra remote.

In the history of Sony projectors, I've never owned one that did anything other with its remote than controlling functions on the projector itself. So the fact the X1 isn't able to be controlled by it the way TV remotes are able to doesn't surprise me at all frankly.
post #154 of 338
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Originally Posted by LeeSoFl View Post

Recommend you insert before going to 4K application, then:

My 4K > Settings > Storage Information > Start Formatting

If you don't have the most recent X1 sw it will download that first.

Lee
#SuperUserbySony
---Sony has provided me with complementary products for evaluation. Participation in this program does not affect my posted comments, concerns or criticisms. ---

I have been all thru the settings menu, and the storage menu, and I don't get any option for formatting. I checked the HD with my computer and its working. Also the software version I am on is 02.024. I remember it doing the original software update when I got first hooked it up, like the second week in december, but haven't had any other updates to my knowledge.

Another user suggested wiping the HD since it came with some pre-installed software on it, so Im gonna give that a shot and see if it works. The HD came formatted as NTFS. I might try formatting it as exFat and then seeing if the Sony Server will see it.

Thanks for the help.
Edited by ccool96 - 1/21/14 at 7:15pm
post #155 of 338
So you're not getting this screen when you go to Storage Information?




You might call 4K support at 855-476-6945.

Lee
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post #156 of 338
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Originally Posted by LeeSoFl View Post

So you're not getting this screen when you go to Storage Information?




You might call 4K support at 855-476-6945.

Lee
#SuperUserbySony
---Sony has provided me with complementary products for evaluation. Participation in this program does not affect my posted comments, concerns or criticisms. ---

No all I see is the internal storage. I tried formatting different ways, but no luck so far. I will give the Sony Tech # a call tomorrow.

Here is a screenshot of what I see on the tablet. Mine looks different then yours for some reason?
post #157 of 338
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Originally Posted by AustinJerry View Post

I published a list of the content several weeks back. But, AFAIK the only way to browse content is from the X1.

Edit: Here is the link: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1467859/sony-4k-media-streamer-fmp-x1-699-coming-summer-2013/60_20#post_23871961

thanks for posting this but won't this change somewhat often?
post #158 of 338
Well, I guess new content will be added. But so far, there haven't been that many changes. I didn't have the time to refresh the listing for you.
post #159 of 338
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Originally Posted by lincoln_husker View Post

thanks for posting this but won't this change somewhat often?

In your dreams! I have had an X1 since mid AUG and they've added maybe 6 movies. Maybe...
Edited by jjnbos - 1/22/14 at 5:11am
post #160 of 338
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Originally Posted by ccool96 View Post

No all I see is the internal storage. I tried formatting different ways, but no luck so far. I will give the Sony Tech # a call tomorrow.

Two thoughts: don't use the tablet, use the TV remote, but more likely is that the drive is formatted in something (OSX??) that the X1 doesn't understand so it doesn't think you have anything to format and so on…

If you use a Mac, try formatting the drive with "Disk Utility" as "MS-DOS", otherwise try formatting it (again) with a PC...

or not...
post #161 of 338
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Originally Posted by jjnbos View Post

Two thoughts: don't use the tablet, use the TV remote, but more likely is that the drive is formatted in something (OSX??) that the X1 doesn't understand so it doesn't think you have anything to format and so on…

If you use a Mac, try formatting the drive with "Disk Utility" as "MS-DOS", otherwise try formatting it (again) with a PC...

or not...

This is with the Sony VW600 projector so I don't have any other remote to use. Maybe you can't add external storage to the Sony Server via the tablet at this time.

It was formatted as windows NTFS but I have also tried FAT and then I also tried Mac formats but none seem to work. Seems like the tablet app just doesn't give an option.

That's a bummer! I'm gonna call Sony Tech and try to get someone smart enough to help determine the issue.

Thanks for the suggestions though!
post #162 of 338
Assuming one already owns a compatible display (in this case, a VW600ES), are there any problems buying one of these used? (licencing, account/product registration, etc)
post #163 of 338
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Originally Posted by M_Coupe View Post

Assuming one already owns a compatible display (in this case, a VW600ES), are there any problems buying one of these used? (licencing, account/product registration, etc)

I think I (at least partly) answered my own question. I guess the tablet is a must-have if you're using a Sony 4K projector like the 600ES? How lame. I already have more tablets that I know what to do with, all running some flavor of android, and I can't use any of them to control the thing? WTF, Sony?
post #164 of 338
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Originally Posted by M_Coupe View Post

I think I (at least partly) answered my own question. I guess the tablet is a must-have if you're using a Sony 4K projector like the 600ES? How lame. I already have more tablets that I know what to do with, all running some flavor of android, and I can't use any of them to control the thing? WTF, Sony?

yes very lame and typical sony.
post #165 of 338
I have watched my first 2 movies on the 500ES and am quite impressed. As some have pointed out, the quality of the 4K movies that come 'free' on the server vary quite a bit! The first movie I watched was "That's my Boy". It looked GREAT! I then watched ' The Other Guys" -- not so great! It was pretty grainy and not nearly as crisp as "That's my Boy".

Has anyone seen "Captain Phillips" yet? Would you consider it to be one of the better 4K transfers? On a side note, when you rent a movie on the 4K server, can you watch it immediately or do you have to wait for it to download entirely? I believe it's a 24 hour rental period.... does the clock start after the download completes or when you start playing the movie? Or am I off there?
post #166 of 338

Hit a little bit of a snafu with Sony and the FMP-X1.  One of the reasons I bought the server was because it said that it came pre-loaded with 10 movies (including the Amazing Spiderman) and some others that may or may not have been worth watching.  Well, guess what?  The "promotion" for the 10 movies ended on 12/31/13 - despite so many online retailers still advertising it - as well as BestBuy telling me that the ten movies were preinstalled.  (I did not buy it from BestBuy).  Sony says there is nothing that it can do.  So, you spend $4k for a 4K tv and another $700 for the media player and now you get Elysium (which is all of $8 on the SEN.  That's a little frustrating.

post #167 of 338
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Originally Posted by Lawyerman1000 View Post

Hit a little bit of a snafu with Sony and the FMP-X1.  One of the reasons I bought the server was because it said that it came pre-loaded with 10 movies (including the Amazing Spiderman) and some others that may or may not have been worth watching.  Well, guess what?  The "promotion" for the 10 movies ended on 12/31/13 - despite so many online retailers still advertising it - as well as BestBuy telling me that the ten movies were preinstalled.  (I did not buy it from BestBuy).  Sony says there is nothing that it can do.  So, you spend $4k for a 4K tv and another $700 for the media player and now you get Elysium (which is all of $8 on the SEN.  That's a little frustrating.

yup GIANT fail for not continuing the "promotion".
post #168 of 338
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Originally Posted by ccool96 View Post

It was formatted as windows NTFS but I have also tried FAT and then I also tried Mac formats but none seem to work. Seems like the tablet app just doesn't give an option.

I don't have any of the Sony 4K products at this time so this is a shot in the dark. Zero out your hard drive because there may be data on it that is keeping the Sony from seeing the drive. Just formatting may not overwrite that data. Western Digital offers a utility to do this, the utility can write all zero's to the hard drive which is the same state a new OEM hard drive is in. Just be aware this can take many hours to complete.

I had a fairly new 500GB WD drive that I tried to install Windows 8 (tried 32 and 64) on and the installer would stop at some point (don't remember the reason or error). The drive had been used previously with Windows XP, Windows 8 trial, etc. All logical drives and partitions had been removed, etc. Zeroed the drive with a Windows XP computer and external USB case. Window 8-64 then installed without problems on that drive. The Windows 8 computer UEFI (BIOS) SATA Mode was always set to IDE Mode (not AHCI).
post #169 of 338
Does anyone know how the Sony deals with with hard drives that use Advanced Format controllers?
post #170 of 338
Hello,

I just got my FMP hooked up to my TV. The thing I can't figure out is I was told it came with 10 movies free such as SALT, Bridge over... but I only see them for a paid amount. I'm logged into my SEN account on my system as it says my login account in the upper right corner. When I log into the SEN on the computer it says add devices - get your activation codes on screen from the device - I can't find them on my Sony XBR-65X850A TV or my Sony 4K media player. Could someone please let me know how to get the 10 free movies?
post #171 of 338
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Originally Posted by boe View Post

Hello,

I just got my FMP hooked up to my TV. The thing I can't figure out is I was told it came with 10 movies free such as SALT, Bridge over... but I only see them for a paid amount. I'm logged into my SEN account on my system as it says my login account in the upper right corner. When I log into the SEN on the computer it says add devices - get your activation codes on screen from the device - I can't find them on my Sony XBR-65X850A TV or my Sony 4K media player. Could someone please let me know how to get the 10 free movies?

check up a couple posts
post #172 of 338
Thanks - I'll have to call Sony as I bought the unit in December but because of a bug with the TV and oshare, I couldn't use the TV / the FMP.
post #173 of 338
What frame rate is send out?
post #174 of 338
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Originally Posted by lincoln_husker View Post

I have watched my first 2 movies on the 500ES and am quite impressed. As some have pointed out, the quality of the 4K movies that come 'free' on the server vary quite a bit! The first movie I watched was "That's my Boy". It looked GREAT! I then watched ' The Other Guys" -- not so great! It was pretty grainy and not nearly as crisp as "That's my Boy".

Has anyone seen "Captain Phillips" yet? Would you consider it to be one of the better 4K transfers? On a side note, when you rent a movie on the 4K server, can you watch it immediately or do you have to wait for it to download entirely? I believe it's a 24 hour rental period.... does the clock start after the download completes or when you start playing the movie? Or am I off there?

I have Capt Phillips, but haven't sat down to view it yet. As a guess and strictly a guess at this stage, it should be a pretty good 4K transfer. All you can watch fairly immediately is the 4K preview clip of the movie. If your player is set to auto download, it should have all the previews available to view. Given the massive size of the 4K downloads, there's basically no point in Sony to have enabled you to view partial download loads, unless you had a massive pipe into your home like 50-100mbit fiber say. The rentals, which IMHO (unless you have super-fast and basically unlimited download) are true waste resources for something you can't keep, start to count down the 24hrs once you being viewing. Again with the movie size and time to download, there would be a lot of upset customers who would easily miss a 24hr window if it was immediately after download.
post #175 of 338
What a load of crap - they claim they couldn't give me any codes even though my unit was defective so I couldn't activate it. They had the record that my unit was defective and they had to send a rep out that took nearly a month for them to do but they wouldn't honor the agreement. I said the least they could do was refund the money for the product as it came with an unattainable promise. They said there was nothing they could do. Pretty much the end of my Sony buying days.
post #176 of 338
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Originally Posted by boe View Post

What a load of crap

It is and I can understand why you would be PO big time but I have recommended for years that folks read the TOS from any vendor of non-physical content before they make a purchase.
post #177 of 338
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Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland View Post

It is and I can understand why you would be PO big time but I have recommended for years that folks read the TOS from any vendor of non-physical content before they make a purchase.
That is reasonable and I admit I didn't read it however I bought the unit in December and considering that I couldn't perform the activation due to a Sony defect, seems like they should have just given me redemption codes for the 10 movies or given me SOMETHING in return for an issue that was on their end.
Edited by boe - 2/3/14 at 2:34pm
post #178 of 338
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Originally Posted by boe View Post

That is reasonable and I admit I didn't read it however I bought the unit in December and considering that I couldn't perform the activation due to a Sony defect, seems like they should have just given me redemption codes for the 10 movies or given me SOMETHING in return for an issue that was on their end.

I wouldn't have waited the month. I'd have asked for an immediate exchange on the defective unit(was it the unit in the end or the TV? - I'm a tad unsure the way you explained it).
post #179 of 338
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Originally Posted by OzHDHT View Post

I wouldn't have waited the month. I'd have asked for an immediate exchange on the defective unit(was it the unit in the end or the TV? - I'm a tad unsure the way you explained it).
An "immediate" exchange would have taken 2 weeks as they had none left in stock. I was going out of town for 2 weeks so it didn't matter that much to me. The TV was defective but you can't do anything with the FMP unless you have a TV to use it with.
post #180 of 338
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Originally Posted by boe View Post

An "immediate" exchange would have taken 2 weeks as they had none left in stock. I was going out of town for 2 weeks so it didn't matter that much to me. The TV was defective but you can't do anything with the FMP unless you have a TV to use it with.

On one had you have been fleeced.

On the other hand, the "free" movies are so lame that I have never even bothered to watch half of them. Some of the ones I did watch are not even very good transfers.

SO, while I'd be pissed too, your important problem is that there is basically no 4k content...
Edited by jjnbos - 2/4/14 at 1:38pm
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