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post #31 of 337
The overall cost of A/V technology that a consumer must pay is not limited to the cash outlay. It also includes all those usability issues such a DRM restrictions that limit what the consumer can or cannot do with the content they have paid for. Most people feel that when they have paid their money and bought the disk or download file they own it in much the same way as they own a paperback book when they walk out of the store. They can read it anywhere at any time without having to ask permission. They can give it or sell it to someone else without the hint of concern that the recipient wouldn't be able to read it any time and anywhere. The notion that they have paid to simply license the content and must obey the license restrictions does not sit well with them.

DVD is a thriving market because many people feel the overall cost of BluRay exceeds the value of the total BluRay experience. These people are not likely to give 4K a second look. If the content producers make the overall cost of 4K too high (price+DRM), it will lure very few from BluRay and thus will become a niche like 3D or simply whither away.
post #32 of 337
Hello this is Albert, a journalist from hk media. Since the FMP-X1 is shipped recently, I am now writing the report for my readers. However, I dun have the real product on hands. Does anyone here has the product? It's my pleasure if you can help to provide the screen cap of the 4K movie signal and menu to me, thanks a lot!

email address: albertwong@hket.com

rdgs,
Albert
post #33 of 337
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Originally Posted by LeeSoFl View Post

The new HDMI(4) circuit was installed by Sony techs this past Monday, and it's been smooth sailing since.

The XBR65 and the X1 work perfectly together, even got a software update this morning.

pics here:
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1473062/official-sony-x9-xbr-55x900a-xbr-65x900a-owners-thread/690#post_23530262


Good afternoon LeeSoFl,

Thanks for your message and appreciate the pictures!

I'm glad to read your satisfied with the upgrade.

Pat Kennedy
Sony Support USA
post #34 of 337
do you mean you can output the signal from FMP-X1 to XBR65? may you please take some screen pics for me, including the 4K movie signals and menu? thanks a million!
post #35 of 337
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Originally Posted by purina hket View Post

Hello this is Albert, a journalist from hk media. Since the FMP-X1 is shipped recently, I am now writing the report for my readers. However, I dun have the real product on hands. Does anyone here has the product? It's my pleasure if you can help to provide the screen cap of the 4K movie signal and menu to me, thanks a lot!

email address: albertwong@hket.com

rdgs,
Albert

Hi Albert,

I don't know if these are what you're looking for. Each one of the pics is about 700 KB, and I'm not sure the forum site will keep them at full size. I only photographed menu screens as taking a picture of a movie wouldn't quite get the impression across well.

Lee

post #36 of 337
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Originally Posted by purina hket View Post

do you mean you can output the signal from FMP-X1 to XBR65? may you please take some screen pics for me, including the 4K movie signals and menu? thanks a million!

Greetings purina hket,

The FMP-X1 Media Player is a technologically advanced product that allows the transfer of 4K content securely to your TV.

Thanks for your post,

Pat Kennedy
Sony Support USA
post #37 of 337
On the Sony Community site, I saw this response a few weeks ago:

Later this summer, Sony will launch Video Unlimited 4K, a service that will allow an ever-growing library of 4K content to be viewed in the home. At that launch, Sony will also announce a new 4K media player compatible with the XBR-84X900. Please be assured Sony will meet your expectations to continue to provide the path for you to enjoy 4K content on your television.

I asked: Is this new player exclusively for the 84 inch 4K? Is the FMP-X1 being replaced that quickly for us inadequate (under 84") folks?

This was posted on the Sony Community today:

Later this summer, Sony will launch Video Unlimited 4K, a service that will allow an ever-growing library of 4K content to be viewed in the home. At that launch, Sony will also announce a 4K media player solution compatible with the XBR-84X900 that will replace the existing 4K media player delivered with the XBR-84X900. Please be assured Sony will meet your expectations to continue to provide the path for you to enjoy 4K content on your television.


It's not a very active forum, but an assortment of posts can be found at:

http://community.sony.com/t5/4K-Ultra-HD-TV/bd-p/4K-Ultra-HD-TV
post #38 of 337
Has any non usa users imported one into their country and worked ok?
post #39 of 337
I don't believe they'll work because the required internet connection is country specific.
post #40 of 337
Good afternoon everunman,

The FMP-X1 is geo-blocked by IP address so that it cannot be used outside of the United States – this is due to content rights and licensing.

While we have no announcements scheduled, please know that we will be expanding Video Unlimited 4K’s reach and availability.


Thank you,

Pat Kennedy
Sonu Support USA
post #41 of 337
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Has any non usa users imported one into their country and worked ok?
You could always legally purchase or lease a VPN server in the U.S. and have all your router traffic routed through a U.S. IP address.

May not be cost effective for you but it shouldn't be too expensive if you just can't wait.

Just saying!
post #42 of 337
Thanks to all that replied!
post #43 of 337
surprised there is not much action in this thread yet..
I just bought the 65 inch/bdps790/fmp-x1 combo, and I am completely blown away by this combo!!

My tv had the proper board, so no problems there, the media player was recognized instantly, and all downloaded updates worked perfectly, and, outside of the high prices for movies, this thing is fantastic!!

Wondering if anyone knows if the external hd USB's are "active" yet, and if there are any recommended hard drives and sizes to use with it?

this is the future of 4k entertainment, and I have excited to be part of it!! smile.gif
post #44 of 337
Hi. I have downloaded about seven movies. That in addition to the ten that cam pre-loaded has me at almost an entire TB already used.
I tried to connect an external hard drive to the media player, but Sony says it has not activated the USB for it yet. does anybody have any
additional information. i mean, if sony wants us to buy movies and has already said you can connect an external hard drive, i am wondering
why they will not provide the means to do it yet.

i mentioned in the other thread for the x900a, that I downloaded Lawrence of Arabia. Check it out. At least look at the preview. It is quite
something to behold. This and Life Cycles are the two best 4K movies I have seen so far. Lawrence is breathtaking in every way.
post #45 of 337
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I downloaded Lawrence of Arabia.

How is the letterbox on LofA? The prints were released as 2.20:1 for 70mm and 2.35:1 for 35mm.

Is it similar to Bridge on the River Kwai? If you notice, on Kwai, there is moderate cropping on the 4K version. Especially noticeable as they transition in the final long shot to the closing credit.
post #46 of 337
Lee, I cannot answer tech questions from a tech standpoint. But I just looked at both. The letterbox in Bridge is more black bar on top and bottom of screen.
Lawrence is almost, full screen. Not quite. Still has black bars. But much less than Kwai. Hope that helped a little. The easiest way to see it is to watch Preview of both movies.
The Preview shows it exactly as it looks. Same with Kwai. That way you will be able to compare them perfectly. Rich
post #47 of 337
Thanks E, I'll check out the preview. I've watched Kwai, and it looked rich, like old time films. The only minor issue was the audio level was considerably lower from the X1 for that film than others.
post #48 of 337
I didnt even know that you could watch previews of the movies on the server..thanks for this info guys!!cool.gif
post #49 of 337
To X1 owners sending audio directly to their AVR's from HDMI2: is this connection working properly? When I play content from the X1, I always get a brief 1-2 second audio dropout at the beginning, almost like the X1 and AVR are negotiating the connection, and then the audio plays correctly. Otherwise, the audio connection seems to be fine. Both 2.0 and 5.1 play correctly through the AVR.
post #50 of 337
it works fine for me, although there is a second or delay for the video to connect, as well as the audio.
I figured it was either caching, or something like that; its definately not too bothersome IMO..
post #51 of 337
As I understand, you can delete material from the player, but you still own the 4k movie and you can download again for no extra charge. Seems pretty modern and okay to me. The player works beautifully. I love the whole thing, except... the security is so intense that it inhibits sales dear Sony.
post #52 of 337
When will this be available in Canada?
post #53 of 337
The unit has lots of bugs. It may work great for some and then it may not. Mine was giving me issues (not working at all) until the Sony upper level explained the bugs and we got it working. The Directv Genie receiver has issues with it. It has to be fully turned off for the 4K server to even work. Mine was plugged in thru a receiver on port 2 (4k server is on port 4). Once I turned it off, the server started to work perfectly. Next issue, is that for some reason that the second HDMI port that is audio only, when it is connected to my receiver (Denon) , it causes the 4k server to shut down after a few minutes of use. So literally, I have to run the 4k server by itself then and only then does it work.

I am excited to use it but I say this to the people that dont have it, you should wait until all the bugs are taken out.
Edited by Abbas - 10/8/13 at 4:50pm
post #54 of 337
Strange. I have my Media Player connected to a Denon AVR using HDMI2 from the player, and I also have two DirecTV DVR's (not Genie's), and I am not experiencing any of the issues you describe. Are you sure you don't have a defective unit?
post #55 of 337
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If someone could help me with an issue I'm having with the Sony FMP-X1 media player I would be very appreciative.
My Sony XBR-65x850a TV is working phenomenally. I attempted to hook up my media player, and have been experiencing days of headache ever since.
My wireless router in the house has to be downstairs. This TV and media player are sitting upstairs. To solve this, initially I purchased a Netgear Range Extender. I hooked the TV and media player directly up to this device. I was able to get a network signal to the media player. Unfortunately, I received the "Cannot connect to media player" message after the initial 4K intro screen. What was interesting was, one of the first nights I had this, the TV and media server actually DID pair, and I was able to view several 4K clips and a movie. This pairing occurtred several minutes after allowing the media player to just sit there powered on and hooked up to the TV HDMI4. Unfortunately since that first night, I have not been able to achieve getting the media player successfully paired again.

I'm the other owner talking to Sony about this, and I've been torching them on Amazon reviews for this nonsense.

In a nutshell I was getting constant "network down" despite having an awesome network. Hours on the phone with Sony alwyaws wanting me to test my network which is always awesome but never testing their trash.

After many broken promises about getting back to me, nothing has happened.

I started thinking about it. The error message "Network appears to be down" is actually a TV message (unplug a wired connection while watching netflix or such). SO I started screwing around with the ---TV--- network setup

Here is what I did at it works perfectly now: switch the ---TV---- from wired to wireless using ---WPS---, not WAS security. That's the pushbutton security. Look it up.

Worked perfectly ever since.

Reported this to Sony haven't heard a word. Did get the TV software update today (8 OCT). still seems to work...
post #56 of 337
Jjnbos,

It appears as your player and TV are not recognized as belonging to the same network if wired/Wi-Fi mixed, and switching the wireless setting on the TV worked because the player and the TV may then be recognized as paired within the same WI-Fi router network rather than the RJ45 Ethernet wiring.

One solution I found with a similar problem with a 4K server I was testing was to move the WiFi router close to the player and projector and rather connect them directly to the router with Ethernet cables.

Regarding using your A/V receiver for 4K video between the player and the UHDTV make sure the receiver is 4K pass-thru capable, using the receiver for audio only should not cause any video interference if the player is directly connected to the UHDTV for the video.
post #57 of 337
I guess I was not clear.

It did NOT work when they both were connected wired to the same router.

Now the FMP is connected wired, which is the only choice there, but the TV is now wireless, but not WPA wireless. Switched to WPS wireless.

Sony suggests/demands that the TV be connected wired and the FMP is always wired, but that did NOT work for me...

Maybe that's clearer...

-jj
post #58 of 337
FWIW, my Media Player is hard-wired, and my X900 is wireless, using WPA2-PSK(AES). I have no issues getting the two to work together. I have a cable internet connection with 15MBs download speed.
post #59 of 337
So lets clarify that message that comes up saying there is network issue. It is not always about the network. It could be host of other problems. To clarify previous messages with Directv, the issue is ONLY with the Directv GENIE DVR. I get the network issue when it is on and connected to HDMI 2. When unplugged, not even rebooting the FMP-X1, the server resets on its own and works. The other issue that I have is that the HDMI2 out on the server, if there is a cable plugged into and going to a receiver, it will cause the unit to crash. The Sony upper level rep said that it was an issue that they were working on.

I should note that is a replacement unit from Sony. The first one kept shutting down 20 minutes into the movie. I am hoping some type of software update will resolve these nuances.

On the bright side, anyone check out that Bicycle movie... The 4k is just amazing on it.
post #60 of 337
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On the bright side, anyone check out that Bicycle movie... The 4k is just amazing on it.

where do we see it, i google and it came up with an asian youtube site? thanks
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