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post #61 of 337
This is interesting but there seems to be a lack of information about this player. I would have thought there'd be reviews of the films somewhere.

Apparently the downloads are 38GB, so they're quite compressed but who knows whether it's noticable or not? What titles are available to download? Can you restart a download or do you have to leave the machine on? Can you watch before the download ends?
post #62 of 337
Why fork out all that dough when you can pay half for a Nuvola NP1. Then the Odemax box is almost 3x the Sony.

Very amusing to see 10K grand Ultra HD projectors starting to show up, like the Sony VPL-VW600ES. Sony Europe
has this hilarious statement where they call the 600ES "critical viewing equipment for private screening
rooms"

Hooray to the financial gurus with pockets deep enough to become beta testers.

$2 per movie for 1.8k to 4K conversion on Vudu anyone?
post #63 of 337
Bobpaule,

Actually a nuvola player for half of the Sony has to be other than vapor ware to do a fair comparison with Sony's, similar to beta RED regardless that is twice-plus Sony's price. Only then one can evaluate content availability, compelling content type, and image quality.

Regarding Sony''s 600 soon to be available 4K projector the price is not $10k, add another half, and still is a decent price considering that will offer true 4K chip/engine, no e-shift, and 1700 lumens compared to my 1000 4k projector with 2000 lumens ($25k MSRP), which is a torch and I typically use the dynamic iris in limited because of the potent light output.

1700 lumens should be more than enough for non-huge HT screens. Add another $1000 for the player/tablet offered by Sony and it is a very good deal considering the individual prices of those two.

Sony is upgrading my 1000 projector to the new 1100 model, with a technician at home, HDMI 2, HDCP 2.2, a 4K player, a tablet, and a new lamp (approx $700 MSRP) all for an estimated price of $2500 that dealers will set depending of the installation.

Counting out $185k Meridian 4K projector, no reasonable-price 4K projectors are available other than the above three, actually only mine until November, all from Sony, JVC is e-shift and does not qualify for 4K UHD label.

Regarding reviewing of 4K content, although not from the FMP (it's precursor server did not recognize my projector early this year) I reviewed the 4K content from the Sony server used for shows like CES, some of the clips were from the same movies of the FMP, including the Timescapes documentary at full length, my overall impression with a 130-inch CinemaScope screen was that it was a mix bag of image quality mainly due to the choice of demo content.

I will review the FMP soon, and also the RED and the Nuvola, if they ever become available.

http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/articles/2013/03/living-with-4k-here-is-the-4k-content.php



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post #64 of 337
So I got my 65" 850 and 4K Media Player. Man is this thing finiky. First night, watched the Red Bull video, but player kept rebooting or would not start. Yes, I have HDMI 2 hooked to an Elite SC-77 and yes I have a DirecTV mini Genie. Both TV and Player have the updated FW. Finally got it to take my Sony Entertainment network Password and now I see all the movies including the 10 free. Downloading the Total Recall now. Seems like to get he player from rebooting, I need to disconnet the HDMI 2 to the reciever. Then plug it in later to get sound. I also double checked to make sure the mini genie is off. Lastly the TV was on wireless and player on wired. I switched the TV to wired as well.
I hope Sony figures this out on the next Firmware release. Man are my friends gonna laugh at me for spending over $5500 on a TV and Player that reboots and is seriously unreliable.
Oh and as I type this the pop up of network appears down....C'mon SONY!!!!!
post #65 of 337
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Originally Posted by nakulsk View Post

So I got my 65" 850 and 4K Media Player. Man is this thing finiky. First night, watched the Red Bull video, but player kept rebooting or would not start. Yes, I have HDMI 2 hooked to an Elite SC-77 and yes I have a DirecTV mini Genie. Both TV and Player have the updated FW. Finally got it to take my Sony Entertainment network Password and now I see all the movies including the 10 free. Downloading the Total Recall now. Seems like to get he player from rebooting, I need to disconnet the HDMI 2 to the reciever. Then plug it in later to get sound. I also double checked to make sure the mini genie is off. Lastly the TV was on wireless and player on wired. I switched the TV to wired as well.
I hope Sony figures this out on the next Firmware release. Man are my friends gonna laugh at me for spending over $5500 on a TV and Player that reboots and is seriously unreliable.
Oh and as I type this the pop up of network appears down....C'mon SONY!!!!!

That sucks. Best of luck to you. I was at my local Best Buy 2 weeks ago, and there were a few Sony techs hooking up the new Sony 4k TVs and 4k media players. There were a lot of people wanting to see it in action, after 20 min. pretty much everyone left. I went back the next day, and it wasn't working. They had to use another source of video. A friend of mine who works there told me he over heard one of the Sony techs say, "What a POS!" However, he wasn't sure what he was referring to.
post #66 of 337
sorry you are having a bad experience; mine has been fantastic; the player, and tv were hooked up by me, and after running all the initial updates, everything has worked perfectly without any issues..
post #67 of 337
Planning on getting a VPN service to try to make the FMP-X1 work outside the US. Aside from the US based IP Address, During setup, will it ask me for a US based address and Credit Card? or can i use paypal or an international credit card? Thanks!
post #68 of 337
Ok, so an update on my Sony 4k player.

Got a call from Sony 4K support tonight. Basically this is what we tried and did not work in the end. Sony says that some Pioneer Elite receivers have issues, specifically the brand new SC-77 and 79. I have the 77. This occurs even if the player is routed straight to the TV over a different HDMI cable. So first we tried to turn off the HDMI out on the receiver (basically the same as unplugging the video from the receiver to the TV). Didn't help, still player still rebooting. We also unplugged the HDMI 2 out of the player to the receiver, so basically now no sound. They checked Firmware and it was all up to date. Then he wanted to know what kind of switch/router the TV and player were connected to. I'm an IT guy, so I have a cisco switch that both plug into. That switch then has an uplink to the router, in my case a full business class Cisco ASA5505. They tried to tell me that the switch may need to be replaced, I called BS on that one. So basically they want the TV and player to be land locked, with nothing else sharing the TV or network, and no surround sound. As you can imagine, I am not happy. Tried to play the Red bull video for my neighbor and could not get past the first 5 seconds. A real tease....
So lastly Sony said this setup (model of receiver/sat box/switch/firewall/cable modem) would be sent to the developers for review. He also mentioned that Sony has made 4K top priority, and I should get a call in 24-48 hours. Hopefully they have a code upgrade in the works, this is embarrassing...
post #69 of 337
Sony got back to me about my issue of "Network Appears to be down.." and it turns out that they did replicate the issue which boils down to Apple Extreme + Sony is unreliable. They sent me a free linksys switch/router (little cheap box we all know and love) and everything works fine if I plug the TV and FMP into the linkysy. In the past what worked fine was the TV wireless and FMP wired into the APple; but they updated the firmawre and that no longer worked. So clearly some lawyer somewhere is making out lives harder because it costs him nothing to waste our time.

That being said, Sony did go the extra mile and actually, if it took a while, go out and but the new Airport Extreme verify I was not an idiot and provide a fix.

That being said they never acknowledged that make customers use the 2wite.com site because it's a spammer tool that always reports a slow internet. I just downloaded the new OSX release at 165 Mbs and 2wire is of course reporting 2.7 Mbs, Sony uses less than 3 Mbs as an excuse for the FMP being broken. That's dishonest.

The guys at Sony TV UHD tech support just called to verify that SEN is working again.That is excellent customer service.

I called the wife at home and asked her if she can buy a movie on the FMP-x1 and SEN is in fact working again!!!

Thanks JP (or is it JR?)

-jj

p.s. the FMP-X1 reports it is downloading at 12+ Mbps, but 2wire.com is reporting 2.8 Mbps... Be great if Sony could switch to a speed test that works; eg. testmy.net or ooakla.com
Edited by jjnbos - 10/24/13 at 11:47am
post #70 of 337
Can anybody who has this service fill us in about the movies available through it?
I found a list somewhere with about 35 movies including the ones on the FMP-X1 but Lawrence of Arabia wasn't on that list and I wonder how many more titles have been added since the service started?

Lawrence of Arabia is a BIG classic ttile and I am really happy that it was released so fast.
Edited by Oliver Klohs - 10/24/13 at 9:00am
post #71 of 337
well, I don't have time to list by name everything on the media server, but here are the current totals of what is there..

10 full length free movies
46 pay to rent or own movies
33 episodes of breaking bad
48 free movie shorts/clips
1 sports documentary

total of 138 things in 4k to watch
post #72 of 337
Thanks, so with the 10 preloaded movies that comes to a total of 56 titles available - impressive!
post #73 of 337
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Originally Posted by wase4711 View Post

well, I don't have time to list by name everything on the media server, but here are the current totals of what is there..

10 full length free movies
46 pay to rent or own movies
33 episodes of breaking bad
48 free movie shorts/clips
1 sports documentary

total of 138 things in 4k to watch

Oh, I am sooo curious -- if you would have time to list the 10+46 movies by name (or make a snapshot with your phone?) I would be eternally greatful. This information is simply impossible to come by... smile.gif Many thanks!!
post #74 of 337
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Originally Posted by JStockholm View Post

Oh, I am sooo curious -- if you would have time to list the 10+46 movies by name (or make a snapshot with your phone?) I would be eternally greatful. This information is simply impossible to come by... smile.gif Many thanks!!

You can find some more info about the titles in this video (not mine): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cegBF9wmlHo
post #75 of 337
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Originally Posted by JStockholm View Post


Oh, I am sooo curious -- if you would have time to list the 10+46 movies by name (or make a snapshot with your phone?) I would be eternally greatful. This information is simply impossible to come by... smile.gif Many thanks!!

 

Here it is:  https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/78476446/SEN%204K%20Content.zip

post #76 of 337
Thanks Jerry, much appreciated!
post #77 of 337
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Originally Posted by antoniobiz1 View Post

You can find some more info about the titles in this video (not mine): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cegBF9wmlHo

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Originally Posted by AustinJerry View Post

Here it is:  https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/78476446/SEN%204K%20Content.zip

Many many thanks to both antoniobiz1 and AustinJerry!! Greetings from a sunny Stockholm, Sweden! smile.gif
post #78 of 337
I recall a couple folks said they were able to connect this to their TV's wirelessly; can someone post how they successfully did it?

I have been connected via Ethernet cable, but I have some network issues, and everything is wireless for now....I have fast wireless, and have been streaming all sorts of hd/1080p stuff with no issues, so I want to try it wirelessly and see if I can make it work.

Thanks to anyone who can lend a hand!
I'm also posting this in the TV thread, so apologies if that bothers anyone!
post #79 of 337
First of all, there is no network connection between the Media Player and the TV--both must be connected to the internet. The Media Player has no wireless capability, so it must be hard-wired to the network router. The X900, however, can be connected to the internet either with a wired connection, or using WIFI. Perhaps that is what you are thinking of?
post #80 of 337
i'm almost sure someone said they did it wirelessly, but I may ne wrong...I gotta figure out a way to stream from the media player without a wired connection to the internet..

thanks again!
post #81 of 337
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Originally Posted by wase4711 View Post

i'm almost sure someone said they did it wirelessly, but I may ne wrong...I gotta figure out a way to stream from the media player without a wired connection to the internet..

thanks again!

 

Believe me, the Media Player has no wireless networking capability.  If your issue is that you can't extend an Ethernet cable to physically connect the box, there are wireless solutions that will allow you to connect the player to the internet.  For example, here is an inexpensive Cisco adapter that will do the job:  http://www.linksys.com/en-eu/products/bridges/wet610n.

 

The WET610N connects wirelessly to your Wi-Fi network, and the media player connects to the WET610N with a wired cable.

post #82 of 337
thanks Jerry, I will check this out today!
post #83 of 337
just wanted to report that I got everything working today, wirelessly!
Using a Netgear r7000 Nighthawk router, and a Netgear WNCE2001-100NAS wireless N bridge, and everything works great!

Thanks Jerry for suggesting this solution..
post #84 of 337
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Originally Posted by wase4711 View Post

just wanted to report that I got everything working today, wirelessly!
Using a Netgear r7000 Nighthawk router, and a Netgear WNCE2001-100NAS wireless N bridge, and everything works great!

Thanks Jerry for suggesting this solution..

Nice work!
post #85 of 337
For those using this with Sony TV, does the movies have subtitles and do they have chapter etc. like the Blu-ray movies? Are they like HD video recorder or a steaming only. Would like more details is someone knows as I'm thinking about buying into the bleeding edge of the 4K maybe!

Bill
post #86 of 337
no subtitles that I have seen, or any option to turn them on,this player only works in the USA right now, so I guess sony doesn't see the need..No chapters, the movie is just there, and you play it, pause it, restart it, or stop watching, and save it for later..Not sure what you mean by "like an HD video recorder" though...
post #87 of 337
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Originally Posted by wase4711 View Post

no subtitles that I have seen, or any option to turn them on,this player only works in the USA right now, so I guess sony doesn't see the need..No chapters, the movie is just there, and you play it, pause it, restart it, or stop watching, and save it for later..Not sure what you mean by "like an HD video recorder" though...
I have Verizon FIOS digital recorder which give captions but not as good a BD movies. If no subtitles the Sony Media player is useless for me, unfortunately I have severe hearing loss and need subtitles for most everything so looks like I'll be stuck using up converted BD movies. May not be worth it!
Bill
post #88 of 337
It checked for you, and the good news is, there ARE subtitles available via the media server!
I never use them, so I didn't even realize that the TV remote has a CC/Subtitle button on it, and its that easy to turn them on and off!

sorry about the earlier mis information...
post #89 of 337
Hey, that sounds encouraging, can someone comment on if they work and are in sync with the movies. Must be someone out there that uses them?
Bill
post #90 of 337
well, I turned them on and they seemed to work just fine..Maybe a tiny bit of lag, but otherwise worked fine.

you should check it out at BestBuy or a store like that if there is one near you, and you can see for yourself!
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