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post #61 of 261
Thanks DTS!
post #62 of 261
Just ordered the 60" from Amazon. It comes on Wed. Pretty excited.
post #63 of 261
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Originally Posted by DTS75 View Post

Not necessarily. For convenience, yes, but you "can" access the Smart Hub through the TV using device mode and using the TVs menu to access it. That's the long way around though.

I'm going to try and get another remote to learn the command and if that works, then I'll try having that remote teach it to the 900.

So I was using the 9-hunny last night in device mode as I was showing some pictures off a flash drive and when I was finished, I just so happened to press "Input USB" and lo and behold - that button turned Smart Hub on and off! So no need to fuss with learning the command! Now off to set up an Activity (after the Hawks Stanley Cup game though)!
post #64 of 261
Oh yeah, and I found this on the Sammy website:

Upgrade File(USB type) (Firmware) (ver.1104.3)
This firmware is for TV Model(s): LED F7450/F7500/F7550/F8000
The version is 1104.3
This firmware update will improve the following:

- Solves Network Connection issue with Wireless router.

- Solves Brightness Popping issue.

- Improves picture quality.

- Supports more MSO in OnTV feature.

- Enhances Voice Recognition feature.

Still haven't gotten around to it, although I can't say that I have any of these issues. I don't use the voice recognition or wireless.
post #65 of 261
Got my TV on Wed. I haven't had a chance to calibrate, but I must say that my HD cable looks worse than expected much of the time. It isn't that the colors are off, etc. But, the picture just doesn't look very clear. I only went from a 46 to a 60, and I sit back about 11-12 feet.

Is a 60 inch TV so large that HD Cable doesn't produce high enough resolution to look good (from about 11-12 feet away)? I would find that surprising.
post #66 of 261
^^^

Absolutely not. My 75" 6400 is super clear and sharp at 11' so it has to be a settings issue.

I would start with Buzz' calibratex settings in the F8000 thread (links in the very first post) and see what you find...
post #67 of 261
Whew. Thanks Anthony!
post #68 of 261
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Originally Posted by anthonymoody View Post

^^^

Absolutely not. My 75" 6400 is super clear and sharp at 11' so it has to be a settings issue.

I would have to agree. My TV out of the box looked great with Uverse feeding it.
post #69 of 261
How is Input lag on this one? I mean in Game Mode?
post #70 of 261
Double-post, sorry
post #71 of 261
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How is Input lag on this one? I mean in Game Mode?

I don't use game mode, COD BO2 on PS3 via HDMI is all good.
post #72 of 261
cnet.com did a review of the F8000 and he gave it a glowing review. but the significance of the review is how it relates to the F7500. David Katzmaier said he would be very surprise if the 7 series televisions wouldn't have a noticeable drop in picture quality compared to the F8000 since its micro dimming actually dims portions of the backlight, as opposed to relying on video processing which is the case for the 7 series (pro and standard).

So, is Katzmaier all wet and he'll be pleasantly surprised when he gets around to testing a 7 series unit? I love to hear compelling arguments.
post #73 of 261
Have any of you used the stand for the tv? I feel as though the screws provided with the tv are larger than the holes drilled into the stand.
post #74 of 261
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Have any of you used the stand for the tv? I feel as though the screws provided with the tv are larger than the holes drilled into the stand.

I'm using the stand. Screws all went in just fine.
post #75 of 261
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Originally Posted by DTS75 View Post

I don't use game mode, COD BO2 on PS3 via HDMI is all good.

So I've managed to play a bit of COD on this display, and I have to say I do find the input lag to be a bit of an issue for me. Coming from the CRT era, I'm used to instant response.

The game mode improved the input lag quite a bit, as well as turning off every piece of processing I could find made the game manageable to play, but nowhere near what I'm used to.

Does anyone know if the PC renaming trick works with this display?
post #76 of 261
Bestbuy now has the 60 inch F7500 up on their website. $2499. Decisions, Decisions.
post #77 of 261
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Originally Posted by grinchmcg1 View Post

Bestbuy now has the 60 inch F7500 up on their website. $2499. Decisions, Decisions.

Amazon.com has had it at that price for a while.
post #78 of 261
Trust me, there's NO PRICE at which you should buy this TV -- at least until several more firmware updates are available.

I've had mine two weeks and without going into details, it's been a disaster.
post #79 of 261
Thread Starter 
no complaints on my end; best tv i've owned
post #80 of 261
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Originally Posted by Yobyot View Post

Trust me, there's NO PRICE at which you should buy this TV -- at least until several more firmware updates are available.

I've had mine two weeks and without going into details, it's been a disaster.

Why has it been a disaster?
post #81 of 261
The firmware is buggy.

For example, it can turn on a FiOS DVR but can't turn it off. The DLNA client is full of issues. Most of the apps haven't been updated to make using the Smart Remote easy with the apps. Samsung has outages -- one on 7/2 took down Amazon Prime streaming for 12 hours. Resetting the TV to factory can sometimes make it impossible to install apps, which then necessitates a 45-minute call to Samsung to have them hack them back on.

Samsung promises a new release in July -- but won't say when or what it fixes.

The Smart Remote is, IMO, especially misbegotten. It's laggy and insensitive on the edges. The camera doesn't tilt down enough so that if your viewing area is blow the midpoint of the TV, you can't use motion control.

All in all, a good TV -- but a terrible "smart" device.
post #82 of 261
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Originally Posted by Yobyot View Post

The firmware is buggy.

For example, it can turn on a FiOS DVR but can't turn it off. The DLNA client is full of issues. Most of the apps haven't been updated to make using the Smart Remote easy with the apps. Samsung has outages -- one on 7/2 took down Amazon Prime streaming for 12 hours. Resetting the TV to factory can sometimes make it impossible to install apps, which then necessitates a 45-minute call to Samsung to have them hack them back on.

Samsung promises a new release in July -- but won't say when or what it fixes.

The Smart Remote is, IMO, especially misbegotten. It's laggy and insensitive on the edges. The camera doesn't tilt down enough so that if your viewing area is blow the midpoint of the TV, you can't use motion control.

All in all, a good TV -- but a terrible "smart" device.

Those issues do sound aggravating.

The July 2 outage was scheduled system maintenance, at least according to the email I received from Samsung before the fact. The camera is supposed to have some kind of thumbwheel adjustment which I assume you have tried.
post #83 of 261
I've had the UN60F7500 for a few days now, and am generally very happy with it. The picture is great (compared to my previous set, LNT-5271f), but the Smart functionality still lacks quality.

The picture is very good, if not a little artificial (AMP at Standard) at times. I've tried the calibration settings at the below link, but that didn't hit the sweet spot for me.
http://reviews.lcdtvbuyingguide.com/samsung-lcd-tv/samsung-f7500-picture-settings.html

I use a Harmony 900, but do really like the majority of the touchpad remote. If only the touchpad could be better blended with buttons on a Harmony. Too many frequent functions are buried within the "More" button, where you go to get to a virtual keypad, color buttons, tools and status. It'd also be far better if it were rechargeable like the Harmony. Not sure how long 2 AAAs will last in a touchpad remote. The large touchpad area is very responsive on Medium, but the side bars to do page up/down are a severe weak spot....especially when the guide always opens to channel 1.

It also seems that 5.1 sound is not returned on HDMI-3, the CEC port, as confirmed in the manual. Really? We've got to run an optical S/PDIF cable to get 5.1 back to the AVR for apps like Netflix and Amazon?

Voice command is surprisingly ok from the remote (not the TV mic), if you know the right command. At times, there's a delay before you can speak, but that's an issue on the Samsung's server (I think). Sometimes, "I'm afraid there is no response from the server". I had no desire to speak to the TV, but it has promise if it works consistently well.

The camera is nice for Skype, and I like that it can be recessed into the bezel, but wish there was some adjustability for more downward focus. The aim is too high. Unless there's a security app that could make use of it...hmm.

The Smart Hub functions are nice, but need much more polish. This is where I've primarily been impressed, but also disappointed.

A few thoughts in the hub:
1. OnTV - the primary recommendation interface, hasn't changed since plugged in. All broadcast networks, Disney and Fox News...all the time. At this point, seems more of a paid promotion vehicle rather than tailored to my tastes. It hasn't provide any good recommendations (based on preferences, not popularity) despite feeding it clues by using the guide and voice to select my fav channels and content. It's attractive, but waiting on it to be useful. If only it could be helpfully configured.
2. The DLNA isn't very good, especially for an Apple-centric household. I use Mediariver's Medialink DLNA on my main Mac, but you lose a lot of control (ff, rw) and cover art. There's also limited views (only folder?) of content.
3. Movies and TV Shows - good idea of aggregating content over different services, including Netflix...when it works. Most of the pat few days, it doesn't even open, which seemed to mean the server was down. Internet connectivity was fine. I generally rent from AppleTV, but can see myself using Vudu for more given the integration, if it works. Haven't given Samsung my credit card yet, though.
4. Social - meh. Videos from Twitter are ok, but I won't link Facebook and don't want it on TV. Something like Flipboard would be much more interesting than a Facebook feed.
6. Apps is also a mixed bag. Lots of good content, but not enabled to use the touchpad on the remote. Most require you to use the colored A-D buttons, which are buried in More > Tools menu, rather than being objects to be selected. I like that I can edit/arrange My Apps, but dislike having the "Recommended" apps at top uneditable. Especially things like Shop TV, which I will never use.

It has "rebooted" a couple times in heavy use over the past few days, too....not very appliance like.

All in all, I like the TV, and hope the IQ of the Smart Hub experience gets higher.

I'm open to a clue or two if I've misunderstood anything.

Doug
post #84 of 261
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Originally Posted by david3772 View Post

The camera is supposed to have some kind of thumbwheel adjustment which I assume you have tried.

Thanks. There is indeed a small thumbwheel behind the camera that adjusts the angle up and down.
post #85 of 261
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Originally Posted by djmaltby View Post

Thanks. There is indeed a small thumbwheel behind the camera that adjusts the angle up and down.

Glad to help.

Someday I will buy my own new set to play with....
post #86 of 261
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Originally Posted by djmaltby View Post

It also seems that 5.1 sound is not returned on HDMI-3, the CEC port, as confirmed in the manual. Really? We've got to run an optical S/PDIF cable to get 5.1 back to the AVR for apps like Netflix and Amazon?

Doug

Hi Doug,

What audio quality do you get to your receiver using this method? I don't have an ARC capable Receiver, so I have to use an optical cable from the TV to the Receiver to pipe the audio from apps into my receiver. Even though the TV is set up to output Dolby Digital 5.1, my receiver doesn't recognize it as DD 5.1. My receiver, however, does recognize my ordinary HD TV as DD 5.1 though.
post #87 of 261
Doug,

Also, how is your flashlighting? A recent review on amazon said it was horrible. But, mine seems very minor, and only if I'm doing a test screen. I haven't noticed it all during a movie, etc.
post #88 of 261
Also, I've had to turn voice command off. In several different blurays I've watched, some random noise during the movie would cause the voice command to activate. I tested whether it was dialogue from the movie, me speaking or something else. Interestingly, it would just be a sound (not talking) from the movie. I'd repeat the clip several times and it would happen each time.

So, I just have to keep the voice command off.
post #89 of 261
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Originally Posted by magogian View Post

Also, I've had to turn voice command off. In several different blurays I've watched, some random noise during the movie would cause the voice command to activate. I tested whether it was dialogue from the movie, me speaking or something else. Interestingly, it would just be a sound (not talking) from the movie. I'd repeat the clip several times and it would happen each time.

So, I just have to keep the voice command off.

This happens on mine as well. I talked to Samsung and after getting the run around about my room not being set up properly, I went through the whole room process with the guy. Room was given a passing grade. I then gave it a few minutes and the voice command box popped up again. Samsung rep said to just turn it off. I wasn't very happy with the response but since I don't think I would use it anyways I'll just leave mine off as well.
post #90 of 261
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Originally Posted by magogian View Post

Hi Doug,

What audio quality do you get to your receiver using this method?

Actually seems good. I seem to be getting DD5.1 from Netflix on the F7500 via HDMI-CEC to my Denon 3311, despite what I thought I read. I read in the F8000 thread that there are/were *legal* issues with passing 5.1 from TV to AVR for non-TV sources (BR, Cable?). But for Netflix (and potentially other apps), the HDMI ARC does seem to be passing DD5.1 to my AVR. All my sources are input to AVR for output to TV HDMI3, the only thing I need ARC for apps like Netflix on the TV.
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