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post #1 of 22
Thread Starter 
My friend gave me 5 different motherboards that he bent CPU Socket pins on his attempts at building a computer. I was able to realign all the pins but would like to know a couple things first.

Recovered Motherboards:
1- Intel B77EB
2 - ASRock B75M-DGS
1 - Biostar H61-MGC
1 - Asus - P8 H61-M LX3 (broken VCCIO pin, not sure if it'll work or not)

The idea here is to get a CPU for these motherboards to test out and eventually keep one to replace the XBox in the bedroom and maybe one as a Home Server.

Now, the question....

I do NOT want to invest a lot of money on a chip that could fry in these repaired motherboards... (I trust they are all straight, just don't want to blow a lot of money on a piece of test equipment)

If the CPU makes it through the 5 boards and is still good, I'd like to use it for the XBox replacement media center.

Would I have to get a Pentium to have integrated video?

Is the Pentium good enough for a partial use media center?
post #2 of 22
Yes. G860 or a G2020 would be my personal choice. ~$60
post #3 of 22

CPUs have pins, sockets have holes.  How does one bend the part that is on the mobo, namely a hole in a socket?  I could see misaligning a CPU into the socket and bending the pin on the CPU but not the other way around... help me understand your issue.

post #4 of 22
Thread Starter 
Haven't seen a Intel motherboard in a while? The motherboard has pins.


Thanks mfusick
post #5 of 22
The latest motherboards even have a cover for the socket to protect the pins prior to CPU installation. The last Asus motherboard I installed even said that the cover should be kept and the board would be rejected if returned without the cover.

The real question is "how the hell does someone destroy five motherboards the same way"?!? After the first "accident" I'd assume the lesson had been learned, but then to screw up four more times? How about asking for help after the second attempt?
post #6 of 22
Thread Starter 
Ya, I was quite surprised how anyone could mess up THAT many boards. I'm guessing it was from removing that sheild because that is where all the pins were mangled. Each board took me about 45 minutes.

The Intel board is my most coveted, and least damaged. One of the ASRock's will probably suffice for a media center. Probably sell the others on CL if they work.
post #7 of 22
If he is your friend did he not think to ask you for help? I would have stopped at least after my second. Then I would have paid Microcenter to do it for me.
post #8 of 22
Can you warranty RMA them back to the MFG?
post #9 of 22
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Can you warranty RMA them back to the MFG?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=rma+motherboard+bent+pins

Looks like the answer is maybe.
post #10 of 22
Thread Starter 
lol, wiseass...

I'm in Florida, he's in Seattle. Otherwise I would have helped.
post #11 of 22
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Yes. G860 or a G2020 would be my personal choice. ~$60

I agree, I'm going to be getting the G2020 and putting that in my htpc that I built a while back and putting the G530 that is in my htpc and putting it in my flexraid setup. Good deal for the money.
post #12 of 22
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Would I have to get a Pentium to have integrated video?
No, celeron has it as well
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Is the Pentium good enough for a partial use media center?
The g1610 will work perfectly fine in any of those motherboard if you're targeting OpenELEC. If you aren't planning to use OE then I'd suggest that as well, can't say enough good things about it.

Built an OE box for my relatives with a G1610 and MSI H61M-E33/W8 mobo for Christmas. Throw in 2GB of ram, a 8GB USB 3.0 flash drive for boot, turn DXVA2 off, and you're good to go. Plays anything, haven't heard a single complaint from them or even a support question
post #13 of 22
Thread Starter 
First time I've seen OpenELEC.. Nice.. could be a viable alternative. Can you view wtv files? How about watching dlna like hdhr prime?
post #14 of 22
Yes to wtv file if from Comcast or FiOS and not a premium movie channel. No if from nearly all other providers

I haven't looked into dona on open elec, but if you follow the link in my signature you can view fullguideinfo and watch live tvTV, schedule recordings, etc. I'm not sure that it can run anything standalone. . . I use it as a secondary htpc with the npvr "server" running on my server/htpc
post #15 of 22
Thread Starter 
well... already got me interested in R-pi with OpenELEC..

Would do something else with that motherboard and chip (take a load off my 8 guest hyper-v domain network or start a NAS) IF R-pi works out.
post #16 of 22
From what I understand, RPI is only smooth if you're bit streaming. Supposedly chokes when decoding HD audio

IMO, all 6/7 series are overpowered for pure NAS compared to ARM, but better suited to the way I use OE (ample performance when on and spend majority of time asleep)
post #17 of 22
Thread Starter 
How do you control OpenELEC/XMBC? I only see Smartphone apps, I need iR. Don't want to fire up the smartphone every time I want to change a channel.
post #18 of 22
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How do you control OpenELEC/XMBC? I only see Smartphone apps, I need iR. Don't want to fire up the smartphone every time I want to change a channel.

Since mine is secondary, I don't need a full remote with context menu and every other shortcut available. I currently use a HP WMC remote with it's included ehome ir receiver. I'm planning to use a pulse eight adapter soon, so I'll be quite excited if it allows the OEM TV remote to control up, down, left, right, and enter at least biggrin.gif

Prior to obtaining that HP remote from my parents, I used a flirc USB->IR receiver with a SMK-Link Blu-link remote. This was a nice setup, but you have to program the flirc to your XBMC shortcuts on a windows box. Afterwards you unplug the receiver and the programming stays. It's plug/play on openelec, but not programmable yet.

Any WMC remote should function for arrows, numbers, guide, and "info" for menu. Also just plain "enter" or "ok" during playback brings up the OSG which can usually get everything you need.
post #19 of 22
Thread Starter 
Can I go fanless on that g1610?
post #20 of 22
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Can I go fanless on that g1610?

That is definitely possible

It's a plenty capable cpu for openelec. I assume your interested in the lowest possible price, so note that it's $35 at Microcenter. For me that is an hour drive, but fortunately Fry's electronics also carries that model and they are five minutes away. Their shelf price is $50, but they price match down to $35 no questions asked

For $35 you'll get the stock heat sink, and if you just want to rip the fan off then you'd probably be fine if your case has some airflow

Some other thread had someone who had booted/ran a Core2duo with no heatsink, but in my experience with my own core2duo (Wolfdale e8400) I couldn't get past POST with a loose heatsink

The g1610 is low enough TDP to consider it, but all the aftermarket fanless heatsinks out there are going to drive the cost up. To reiterate, using the stock heatsink "fanless" (i.e. ripping the fan off) might work if you've go some other airflow passing through. Heck it might even "just work" no matter what, but I never even felt it was worth trying. I can say that the g1610 openelec box I built runs plenty quiet off to the side of their living room entertainment center (matches the look of the small sub on the other side as well smile.gif ) I have to put my ear on the case to determine whether or not it's on. (I didn't wire the front leds since that stuff would drive their cat crazy)

My overall suggestion would just be to run it stock, and then start removing fans if you find it too loud
post #21 of 22
Thread Starter 
Damn.. $35? wish I had a fry's here.


I will probably dual boot to be able to watch protected shows. Going to get a TV for this too. My old 27" CRT doesn't have HDMI.


The last thing I need is a tiny cheap case. Those ASRock mobos are pretty small (presuming they work). I hate going into this blind. Might just buy a very cheap PSU to begin with to see which work.


I don't want to risk frying any of my current components, otherwise I would have tested them already.
post #22 of 22
Thread Starter 
Got all of them tested. Only 2 work, the rest have broken pins or just won't work.


The Intel is powering on but I have to put a video card on it to see video, those pins are straight as you would see out of the box, so its something else. Upgraded the bios and set hdmi and dvi to first and second.

I'm calling Intel tomorrow to see why this board won't show video but functions perfectly fine with everything else.

Installed Windows and everything.


What is weird is that it'll show plain text but as soon as it has anything graphic on the screen, it won't output anything.
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