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post #211 of 1844
Hi Ian,

Regarding the favorites, is there any plan to let the user remove the favorites screen from the activities that had nothing to do with the tv. I mean, what is the point of having the favorites screen in the "Watching Blu Ray" activity?.
The thing is that you may be watching a DVD or listen to a CD, and when you are swiping to reach the activity commands you accidentally push a favorite button... a real pain...
A software update to allow the user to choose in what activities the favorites should be shown would be very nice...


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post #212 of 1844
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Originally Posted by Evergreen4 View Post

Hi Ian,

Regarding the favorites, is there any plan to let the user remove the favorites screen from the activities that had nothing to do with the tv. I mean, what is the point of having the favorites screen in the "Watching Blu Ray" activity?.
The thing is that you may be watching a DVD or listen to a CD, and when you are swiping to reach the activity commands you accidentally push a favorite button... a real pain...
A software update to allow the user to choose in what activities the favorites should be shown would be very nice...


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No, unfortunately
post #213 of 1844
I'm interested in the Smart Control for my set-up since I usually have my iPhone or iPad with me on the couch, but I'm not sure my layout suits the hub model. I have wall mounted Panasonic TC-P60ST60 with Pioneer VSX-1120-K AVR, Motorola DCX-3400 HD PVR, and my PS3 in separate forward-facing shelves directly below.

If I place the hub in one of the shelving units, I'm not sure the IR signal from the hub itself will reach each of the devices on the other shelves - it would have to bounce around the room since they're not inside a confined space. The best solution I can muster is to route IR extenders / receivers from the AVR and PVR to the shelf with the hub. For the TV, I could run a miniblaster from the hub to the back of the center speaker where it should be able to see the TV's sensor.

Does that sound like a sensible solution and justify using the Smart Control remote? I guess my alternative would be to buy a 650 and PS3 adapter.

I'd appreciate any thoughts / suggestions from more experienced Harmony users or those just picking up their Ultimate or Smart Control remotes.

Cheers,
Bryan
post #214 of 1844
I think you may be surprised how well the hub transmits IR signals. Even if the hun itself failed to reach all your components, the hub comes with 2 IR emitters which you can place in front of the devices.

Hope this helps.
post #215 of 1844
... and remember the PS3 is bluetooth. So you only have 3 IR devices to worry about in your case.
post #216 of 1844
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Originally Posted by bbursey View Post

I'm interested in the Smart Control for my set-up since I usually have my iPhone or iPad with me on the couch, but I'm not sure my layout suits the hub model. I have wall mounted Panasonic TC-P60ST60 with Pioneer VSX-1120-K AVR, Motorola DCX-3400 HD PVR, and my PS3 in separate forward-facing shelves directly below.

If I place the hub in one of the shelving units, I'm not sure the IR signal from the hub itself will reach each of the devices on the other shelves - it would have to bounce around the room since they're not inside a confined space. The best solution I can muster is to route IR extenders / receivers from the AVR and PVR to the shelf with the hub. For the TV, I could run a miniblaster from the hub to the back of the center speaker where it should be able to see the TV's sensor.

Does that sound like a sensible solution and justify using the Smart Control remote? I guess my alternative would be to buy a 650 and PS3 adapter.

I'd appreciate any thoughts / suggestions from more experienced Harmony users or those just picking up their Ultimate or Smart Control remotes.

Cheers,
Bryan

You could put the hub somewhere out in front of the cabinet/components and TV as well - say on a table? There is no magic that it has to be in very close proximity to the components. I actually have mine on my right front speaker. That speaker is situated alongside the wood open front cabinet (wood shelves) that houses all of my components. On the other side of the cabinet is my Sony NX720 flat panel. I swear that the hub does not have direct line of sight to all components, but it seems to work none-the-less without the requirement to add any of the separate blasters. Not sure why or how, as IR is supposedly LOS only, but I would give it a go and see. Worst case, place it out in the room in front of the cabinet. Good luck!

Jeff
post #217 of 1844
Thanks for the feedback guys. I didn't want to put it on a table out front so that I don't have a cord running across the floor for the AC adapter. If I can't get it to work either on one of the shelves or with the IR blasters / receivers, I do have a subwoofer on the floor a little ahead of the shelving so I could place hub over there.

Much appreciated.

Cheers,
Bryan
post #218 of 1844
Crutchfield now has the Smart Control in stock.

http://www.crutchfield.com/p_596SMRTCTL/Logitech-Harmony-Smart-Control.html

About to place my order.
post #219 of 1844
Is the smartcontrol remote backlite will it control a darbee
post #220 of 1844
Ian,

I see in the specs and some forum posts that the hub works with Xbox 360 via bluetooth. Is this really true? I didn't know the Xbox even had bluetooth. Their own media remote is even IR, not bluetooth. Please confirm. If so, this is great news since the IR range on the Xbox is terrible.

Thanks
post #221 of 1844
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Originally Posted by kwk2293 View Post

Is the smartcontrol remote backlite will it control a darbee
No, it is not backlit
post #222 of 1844
The XBox 360 is not Bluetooth, this is an error, it has always been IR
post #223 of 1844
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Originally Posted by bbursey View Post

Thanks for the feedback guys. I didn't want to put it on a table out front so that I don't have a cord running across the floor for the AC adapter. If I can't get it to work either on one of the shelves or with the IR blasters / receivers, I do have a subwoofer on the floor a little ahead of the shelving so I could place hub over there.

Much appreciated.

Cheers,
Bryan

Hi Bryan,

As others have said, if your devices are all in open shelves or cabinets, placing the hub on any of those shelves will likely control everything, unless your room is very large. Although IR is LOS, it reflects off the walls and furniture, etc in your room. Since we launched Harmony 900, I have used our RF systems with my open cabinets without need for any mini blasters. Some devices do have weaker IR receivers than others (the Xbox 360 is a popular example) in which case a mini blaster might be helpful.

Ian.
post #224 of 1844
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Originally Posted by rehaz1 View Post

No, it is not backlit

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Originally Posted by rehaz1 View Post

The XBox 360 is not Bluetooth, this is an error, it has always been IR

Correct on both accounts.

Ian.
post #225 of 1844
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Originally Posted by Evergreen4 View Post

Hi Ian,

Regarding the favorites, is there any plan to let the user remove the favorites screen from the activities that had nothing to do with the tv. I mean, what is the point of having the favorites screen in the "Watching Blu Ray" activity?.
The thing is that you may be watching a DVD or listen to a CD, and when you are swiping to reach the activity commands you accidentally push a favorite button... a real pain...
A software update to allow the user to choose in what activities the favorites should be shown would be very nice...


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Originally Posted by rehaz1 View Post

No, unfortunately

Actually yes.

I'm not sure when exactly the update will be available, but it's in the plan.

Ian.
post #226 of 1844
I see the smart control only has 3 activity buttons, is that all you can assign on the remote? Also how would you get to individual devices? Does the app work good enough to be my daily remote?

I'm currently using a harmony one and I'm use to the activities and devices on the touch screen. The ultimate looks more like what I'm used to but the price is driving me away. I'm mainly interested in the hub for rf to ir because my equipment is in another room.

I have a ir extender right now but it's hit and miss and I hate having to point the remote directly at the ir receiver.
post #227 of 1844
Hi everyone

My name is Sylvain, and I'm a member of the Harmony team, just like Ian. It's great to be here, and I'm looking forward to answering questions you guys may have about the Ultimate and Smart Control systems!

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Originally Posted by jmoakk View Post

I see the smart control only has 3 activity buttons, is that all you can assign on the remote? Also how would you get to individual devices? Does the app work good enough to be my daily remote?

I'm currently using a harmony one and I'm use to the activities and devices on the touch screen. The ultimate looks more like what I'm used to but the price is driving me away. I'm mainly interested in the hub for rf to ir because my equipment is in another room.

I have a ir extender right now but it's hit and miss and I hate having to point the remote directly at the ir receiver.


Jmoakk, each of the three Activity buttons on the Smart Control remote can be configured to start two different Activities - one by pressing the button normally, and another by pressing and holding the button.

Individual devices and their full sets of commands are accessed through the Harmony app. It's worth specifying that the short/long press behavior I describe above applies to many of the hardbuttons on the Smart Control remote, so if you find yourself reaching for your phone a lot to access a few specific commands, it may be worth assigning them to a long press on a button on the Smart Control remote.
post #228 of 1844
Question: I got the Ultimate and it's controlling everything in the AV closet perfectly but NOT my tv which is away from the hub. My 900 had a choice of hub or direct. Can't I do this with the Ultimate ?

Also my lights. Thanks again.
Edited by wingnut4772 - 6/6/13 at 3:23pm
post #229 of 1844
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Originally Posted by wingnut4772 View Post

Question: I got the Ultimate and it's controlling everything in the AV closet perfectly but NOT my tv which is away from the hub. My 900 had a choice of hub or direct. Can't I do this with the Ultimate ?

Also my lights. Thanks again.

Hi,

Yes you can set any of your devices to be controlled from the remote only, or from the hub and/or mini blasters. On your remote go to Menu > Settings > Devices > Hub Assignments > TV and choose the "remote only" option at the bottom of the screen.

For you infrared controlled lights, this works the same. For Philips Hue lights, the Harmony Hub controls those over WiFi.

Ian.
post #230 of 1844
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Originally Posted by HarmonyIan View Post

Hi,

Yes you can set any of your devices to be controlled from the remote only, or from the hub and/or mini blasters. On your remote go to Menu > Settings > Devices > Hub Assignments > TV and choose the "remote only" option at the bottom of the screen.

For you infrared controlled lights, this works the same. For Philips Hue lights, the Harmony Hub controls those over WiFi.

Ian.
Thanks! You rock smile.gif
post #231 of 1844
Ok I got that figured out but now the remote is asking me to sync all the time. It says the changes I've made cant be replicated to my Harmony account over and over again.

Disregard. Fixed it smile.gif
Edited by wingnut4772 - 6/6/13 at 8:09pm
post #232 of 1844
been looking in to this remote. Only 2 things missing to make my decision. Controlling a Computer through wifi.(windows 8, xbmc, etc) and wake on lan.


DO you think these functions will be coming?
post #233 of 1844
Does anyone know if their is a way we can see what bugs the last two firmware updates fixed or what new function was added?
post #234 of 1844
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Originally Posted by tomcrown1 View Post

Does anyone know if their is a way we can see what bugs the last two firmware updates fixed or what new function was added?

http://forums.logitech.com/t5/Harmony-Ultimate-Harmony-Smart/Harmony-Release-Notes/td-p/1042729
post #235 of 1844
When I go to synch my harmony app with the hub, my app keeps crashing. Anyone else experiencing this same issue? I'm having the same problem from my iPhone and also my wife's.
post #236 of 1844
Just a note that Best Buy and Future Shop here in Canada have removed the Smart Control remote from their websites as of Friday, June 7. I wonder what that means for a Canadian release date? confused.gif

Cheers,
Bryan
post #237 of 1844
It's still on the Best Buy America web site. When is this remote coming out?
post #238 of 1844
I believe the release date that was on the Best Buy Canada website was July 6 (or maybe it was June 7, depending on how you write day/month or month/day). Looks like it'll be a post-vacation purchase for me.

Cheers,
Bryan
post #239 of 1844
Amazon finally has a single delivery date for me, June 14. Looking forward to it.
post #240 of 1844
Hi bbursey,

We've confirmed BestBuy and FutureShop in Canada have received Smart Control units, but can unfortunately not say why they are not on shelves yet. We would expect them to be available by the end of this week!

Regards,

Sylvain
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Originally Posted by bbursey View Post

I believe the release date that was on the Best Buy Canada website was July 6 (or maybe it was June 7, depending on how you write day/month or month/day). Looks like it'll be a post-vacation purchase for me.

Cheers,
Bryan
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