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post #241 of 1828
Thread Starter 
Thanks for that link. I've noticed the last few times I've worked with configuration of the remote I didn't have any problems syncing. Perhaps those firmware updates fixed my issues.
post #242 of 1828
Sylvan -

Thanks for your reply. I'll keep my eyes open for their arrival!

Cheers,
Bryan
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Originally Posted by HarmonySylvain View Post

Hi bbursey,

We've confirmed BestBuy and FutureShop in Canada have received Smart Control units, but can unfortunately not say why they are not on shelves yet. We would expect them to be available by the end of this week!

Regards,

Sylvain
post #243 of 1828
Can anyone confirm if the Ipad app will be updated? No offence but it is horrible compared to all the other remote apps available.

It needs a major overhaul and way more customization control. If so this would be awesome.
post #244 of 1828
Batches of new Ultimate/Touch Favorite and Activity icons have just been added to iconharmony. Let us know if you'd like any others added.
post #245 of 1828
@squareeeyes: thanks a lot for all your efforts, your icons look amazing!

there's only one thing that bugs me: I'm using your icons for my activites and while the icons look really nice on your page they don't look as good on the harmony ultimate screen... the white border is missing on the right side, it looks like the harmony doesn't resize the image nicely causing the right border to dissapear

I tried to resize the icons to 70x70 but it didn't change anything... changing the file format from PNG to JPG solves the problem, however the icons lose their transparency, so the corners are not rounded anymore

did you find a way to use PNGs and still have a clean white border all around the icon?

greetings

MJFox
Edited by MJFox - 6/11/13 at 1:54pm
post #246 of 1828
Awesome icons squareeyes - as usual! smile.gif
post #247 of 1828
let me double check those on the ultimate. i'll post here when i finish testing and/or start posting alternate icon files.
best, rc
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Originally Posted by MJFox View Post

@squareeeyes: thanks a lot for all your efforts, your icons look amazing!

there's only one thing that bugs me: I'm using your icons for my activites and while the icons look really nice on your page they don't look as good on the harmony ultimate screen... the white border is missing on the right side, it looks like the harmony doesn't resize the image nicely causing the right border to dissapear

I tried to resize the icons to 70x70 but it didn't change anything... changing the file format from PNG to JPG solves the problem, however the icons lose their transparency, so the corners are not rounded anymore

did you find a way to use PNGs and still have a clean white border all around the icon?

greetings

MJFox
post #248 of 1828
Howdy all, question please. I need an RF remote as I am moving my components into a closet adjacent to my TV viewing room. This is in a basement bar where the room has just a TV and a soundbar both hung on the wall. I need to control the TV and soundbar via IR and then I want to control the DVR and BluRay within the closet via RF. I've never had an RF remote before. Currently in my living room all of my compenents are controlled by a One that has direct IR line of sight to the entertainment cabinet. My questions are the following:

- I don't quite follow what the mini-IR blasters are for. Does the remote itself not send out a strong enough IR signal that if there is direct line of sight within 20-30' that the blaster would not be needed? I really don't want to put a blaster on the wall near my hanging TV and soundbar.
- Similarly, if the remote uses RF anyway why is IR a concern? Or are the IR mini-blasters and the Hub necessary for the RF signal to get converted to IR so that it can be accepted by the devices?

Thanks.
post #249 of 1828
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by JudgeSmails View Post

Howdy all, question please. I need an RF remote as I am moving my components into a closet adjacent to my TV viewing room. This is in a basement bar where the room has just a TV and a soundbar both hung on the wall. I need to control the TV and soundbar via IR and then I want to control the DVR and BluRay within the closet via RF. I've never had an RF remote before. Currently in my living room all of my compenents are controlled by a One that has direct IR line of sight to the entertainment cabinet. My questions are the following:

- I don't quite follow what the mini-IR blasters are for. Does the remote itself not send out a strong enough IR signal that if there is direct line of sight within 20-30' that the blaster would not be needed? I really don't want to put a blaster on the wall near my hanging TV and soundbar.
- Similarly, if the remote uses RF anyway why is IR a concern? Or are the IR mini-blasters and the Hub necessary for the RF signal to get converted to IR so that it can be accepted by the devices?

Thanks.

The hub sends out a pretty good IR signal but if, for instance, you have stuff in an enclosed rack, then there might not be a place to sit the hub so it can point at the equipment. The blasters can then be used and placed on the shelves alongside the equipment or some other location where they can better hit the IR receivers.

Most equipment takes IR, aside from the PS3 and whatever else uses bluetooth, so the hub is responsible for translating the RF coming from the remote to IR to be blasted at the devices. You also specify whether the remote or hub sends IR to the devices, so it should work well for what you need it to do.
post #250 of 1828
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Originally Posted by JudgeSmails View Post

- Similarly, if the remote uses RF anyway why is IR a concern? Or are the IR mini-blasters and the Hub necessary for the RF signal to get converted to IR so that it can be accepted by the devices? .

Judge, the remote uses RF to communicate with the hub, which would allow the hub to be outside of IR Range (in a cabinet, in another room, etc). Once the hub has the command, it either generates an appropriate IR command or a bluetooth command in the case of a few target devices. Fact is that most devices only respond to IR commands (although some are now using wireless IP commands if they are network aware and connected. The hub seems plenty powerful to me, and I'd advise seeing if your positioning will work all of your devices. In my case, it seems to work reliably when it technically shouldn't (no direct line of sight from hub to device). The RF communications of the device are really nice, as I can't telll you the number of probelms the family had with other remotes that need to remain pointed at the target device(s) for as long as the IR is being sent in order to work. This was particularly a problem when a macro was controlling the signalling of multiple devices to control the sequence of power on. I was constantly getting "support calls" from family members asking what to do when this or that wasn't turned on properly or was in the "wrong" state (on or off when it should have been the opposite).

Hope this helps!

Jeff
post #251 of 1828
Thank you gents!
post #252 of 1828
I still have not ordered mine(SC) yet and was reading a review on amazon last night that said the smart control remote did not send out any IR, only the hub, IR extenders would send out IR, is this true? If so, it wouldn't work well for those that want all of their stuff hidden... I would want my remote to control the TV / Projector and the hub, extender to send commands to tuners in my media closet.

I have read the ultimate does this, but don't recall reading here how the smart control works.

Thx,
BD
post #253 of 1828
Hey everyone,
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Originally Posted by bdunn13 View Post

I still have not ordered mine(SC) yet and was reading a review on amazon last night that said the smart control remote did not send out any IR, only the hub, IR extenders would send out IR, is this true? If so, it wouldn't work well for those that want all of their stuff hidden... I would want my remote to control the TV / Projector and the hub, extender to send commands to tuners in my media closet.

I have read the ultimate does this, but don't recall reading here how the smart control works.

The Harmony Smart Control remote does indeed not fire any IR and completely relies on the Harmony Hub to do so.

The Harmony Ultimate can be configured to fire IR directly from the remote, though it is programmed to use the hub by default. Please keep in mind that any devices programmed only to the remote may not be controlled properly when using the Harmony app!

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Originally Posted by JeffCar View Post

In my case, it seems to work reliably when it technically shouldn't (no direct line of sight from hub to device).

The hub and mini blasters both fire very strong IR signals - much stronger than battery operated remotes - and do not require typical line of sight to control devices. Instead, IR signals can bounce off walls and reflect back to the device in question - hence being able to place the hub or blaster on top of a shelf and still control exposed devices below it.

Overall, the Harmony Hub and mini blasters are very versatile and their 'positions' can easily be reversed.

For example, the Hub can be placed on top of your entertainment system to control your TV and other exposed devices, and mini blaster(s) placed on each of your closed cabinet's shelves.

On the other hand, a well positioned mini blaster on top of your entertainment system will look less intrusive than the hub might, and will usually be sufficient to control exposed devices within that room. The hub can then go inside the cabinet.

Some experimentation and re-positioning may be needed to find your prefect component placement - sometimes moving a hub or blaster a few inches to the left or right might just be enough of a change to actually get IR signals to reach your devices, so make sure you play around to see what works!

Range is of little concern when controlling Bluetooth devices, so the Harmony Hub can be placed in either layout above and still control your PS3s and Wiis without issue.

I hope this helped - let us know if you have any more questions!

-Sylvain
post #254 of 1828
Does the Smart Control, control Hue lighting?
post #255 of 1828
Yea
post #256 of 1828
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Originally Posted by LVS View Post

Does the Smart Control, control Hue lighting?

Not yet! We will be providing hue control in a future update, though!
post #257 of 1828
For those of you who have purchased the Ultimate, would you purchase it again or recommend it to a friend? smile.gif
post #258 of 1828
I would recommend this remote to a friend for sure.
post #259 of 1828
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by ffrcoupe View Post

For those of you who have purchased the Ultimate, would you purchase it again or recommend it to a friend? smile.gif

Yep, I don't know of anything else that can do as much as this remote for this amount of money. It's pricey, but it does the job.
post #260 of 1828
Stay away from the Smart Control if you're a Linux or BSD user.

Was fooling myself to think that Logitech finally made a device I could use - even an app for my Android (Linux) based phone. But lo and behold there were some problems and step 1 of their troubleshooting guide was to login to my account @ myharmony.com. Guess what? You're blocked at login if your computer isn't running Windows or MAC OS. What a bunch of crap. Logitech takes one step forward and two steps back into the Jurassic age of computing.

I'm beginning to think that Logitech is actually owned by Microsoft.

This one is going back to the store.
post #261 of 1828
Thread Starter 
Yeah, it's Silverlight crap. MS still doesn't provide that on Linux, do they?
post #262 of 1828
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Originally Posted by Keith Mickunas View Post

Yep, I don't know of anything else that can do as much as this remote for this amount of money. It's pricey, but it does the job.

Yeah. That's the impression I got. Looks like I'll be saving up my pennies. cool.gif
post #263 of 1828
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Originally Posted by darkphader View Post

Stay away from the Smart Control if you're a Linux or BSD user.

Was fooling myself to think that Logitech finally made a device I could use - even an app for my Android (Linux) based phone. But lo and behold there were some problems and step 1 of their troubleshooting guide was to login to my account @ myharmony.com. Guess what? You're blocked at login if your computer isn't running Windows or MAC OS. What a bunch of crap. Logitech takes one step forward and two steps back into the Jurassic age of computing.

I'm beginning to think that Logitech is actually owned by Microsoft.

This one is going back to the store.

I have iOS devices here.

Yeah. I was trying to remember why I installed Sliverlight. Now I remember. LOL
post #264 of 1828
So can this remote control lighting other than phillips hue? What if I just got a z-wave dimmer, would this remote be able to control it? What if I added a z-wave controller, how about then?
post #265 of 1828
Hi new on here so not sure if correct way to post I have just set up the harmony smart controller all is fine from the remote, I can turn on from my iPhone but then the buttons on the remote page do not work they seem to be faded not bright and do nothing nor does the swipe function am I missing something in the phone setup
post #266 of 1828
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Originally Posted by sulakd View Post

So can this remote control lighting other than phillips hue? What if I just got a z-wave dimmer, would this remote be able to control it? What if I added a z-wave controller, how about then?
No, it can only control Hue lighting or X10 or Insteon with an adapter
post #267 of 1828
Quote:
Originally Posted by darkphader View Post

Stay away from the Smart Control if you're a Linux or BSD user.

Was fooling myself to think that Logitech finally made a device I could use - even an app for my Android (Linux) based phone. But lo and behold there were some problems and step 1 of their troubleshooting guide was to login to my account @ myharmony.com. Guess what? You're blocked at login if your computer isn't running Windows or MAC OS. What a bunch of crap. Logitech takes one step forward and two steps back into the Jurassic age of computing.

I'm beginning to think that Logitech is actually owned by Microsoft.

This one is going back to the store.

You do know that IOS and MAC are Linux based at their core.
post #268 of 1828
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Originally Posted by ffrcoupe View Post

For those of you who have purchased the Ultimate, would you purchase it again or recommend it to a friend? smile.gif
Absolutely.
Jeff
post #269 of 1828
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Originally Posted by rehaz1 View Post

No, it can only control Hue lighting or X10 or Insteon with an adapter

It can control IR based systems like the Lutron Spacer system. Works very well.

Jeff
Edited by JeffCar - 6/17/13 at 6:08am
post #270 of 1828
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Originally Posted by sulakd View Post

So can this remote control lighting other than phillips hue? What if I just got a z-wave dimmer, would this remote be able to control it? What if I added a z-wave controller, how about then?
Get an old Harmony 890 if you need z-wave. Otherwise you'll need some sort of z-wave IR gateway (if such a thing exists) for other harmony models. I've heard of some people using IR to a PC which then sends z-wave commands via a USB z-wave transmitter. But that seems like an expensive, complicated solution compared to philips.
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