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post #61 of 1825
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Originally Posted by JeffCar View Post

No problems setting the Ultimate up on my end, jnnt29 with the exception that it would not import the Touch configuration that I had developed. Had to re-enter all after returning the Touch and upgrading to the Ultimate. A minor inconvenience given the ease of setup really.

That's good to hear, I have the Touch as well and have the same problem with the Help always hijacking control as you ran into. Logitech is supposed provide a firmware update this summer that will give the Touch the same Menu, soft button layout and double use of hard buttons as the Ultimate. That would would make the Touch much better to use.
Edited by jnnt29 - 5/15/13 at 8:55am
post #62 of 1825
I received my harmony yesterday, it's a nice control with easy set up but can't control my rf motorized screen. It's an 100" 16:9 Electric Projector Projection Screen 87X49 Rc Motorized Diagonal Matte with rf remote but I can't control it with the ultimate. Any clue anybody?
post #63 of 1825
I received my harmony yesterday, it's a nice control with easy set up but can't control my rf motorized screen. It's an 100" 16:9 Electric Projector Projection Screen 87X49 Rc Motorized Diagonal Matte with rf remote but I can't control it with the ultimate. Any clue anybody?
post #64 of 1825
I received my harmony yesterday, it's a nice control with easy set up but can't control my rf motorized screen. It's an 100" 16:9 Electric Projector Projection Screen 87X49 Rc Motorized Diagonal Matte with rf remote but I can't control it with the ultimate. Any clue anybody?
post #65 of 1825
I'll let more technically capable answer for certain, but I believe that the RF is only between the remote and the hub, and does not control the endpoint devices directly. Please correct me if I am mistaken.

Jeff
post #66 of 1825
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Originally Posted by JeffCar View Post

I'll let more technically capable answer for certain, but I believe that the RF is only between the remote and the hub, and does not control the endpoint devices directly. Please correct me if I am mistaken.

Jeff

Correct. The Harmony remotes can not control things via RF. Only via IR or Bluetooth. RF is only used for communication between the remote and the hub.
post #67 of 1825
Ian (or anyone else):

How long are the cords for the IR blasters and can they be extended if necessary?
post #68 of 1825
I didn't measure, but can tonight. I think they are ~5 ft if I had to guess.... don't know about extensions.
post #69 of 1825
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Originally Posted by baldbull View Post

Ian (or anyone else):

How long are the cords for the IR blasters and can they be extended if necessary?

The cords are 96" as listed on the logitech site.

IR mini blasters 35 mm (1.4 inch) 2438 mm (96 inch) 12 mm (0.5 inch) 34 g (1.2 ounce)
post #70 of 1825
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Originally Posted by JeffCar View Post

Ian, one question if you don't mind. I am very concerned about the non-replaceable battery, and given the remote's cost (and my frugal nature) I'd like to make this thing last as long as possible. The manual recommends putting the remote back in the charger after use, and while that certainly avoids the possibility of a drained battery, I am thinking it is not so good for longevity of the battery. As I understand it, Lion batteries have a number of advantages over other types, but hit a proverbial and literal wall after XX number of charging cycles and cannot be recharged. Is that the case here? If so, is it better to have the remote sit out of the cradle until it really needs to be charged rather than "wasting" the charge cycle? What is the expected life of the battery (and therefore the remote if the battery is non-replaceable)?

One more thing. many here seem to have a real problem with the fast forward / skip features, and frankly, when I was reading about the unit before I had it in hand, I did too. That is where the Ultimate is much improved over the Touch as well (IMHO) in that the gesture feature is very accessible with a quick upward swipe, and it defaults to a skip on a a quick swipe from left to right across the screen..... even better than finding buttons from my ergonomic viewpoint. So far I am really really liking the Ultimate!! biggrin.gif

Jeff

Jeff, there are instructions in the warranty document that explain how to remove the battery for disposal at once the remote has reached it's end of life. While Logitech may not officially support it, I wouldn't be surprised if someone somewhere sells replacement batteries for it at some point. Also, I can't believe you stuck with a Pronto that long. That's dedication. I had a Yamaha remote that was based on the Pronto, this was around 2000 or 2001. It was nice, but I really missed having a good number of hard buttons, and the screen just wasn't that great. But you sure could customize that any way you wanted, and it wasn't really that hard to program.

I'm going to have to try that swipe control you mentioned, I haven't actually tried any of those yet, other than accidentally changing the volume when I tried the Android app.
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Originally Posted by vagos1103gr1 View Post

I received my harmony yesterday, it's a nice control with easy set up but can't control my rf motorized screen. It's an 100" 16:9 Electric Projector Projection Screen 87X49 Rc Motorized Diagonal Matte with rf remote but I can't control it with the ultimate. Any clue anybody?

Pretty sure it won't do that. I'm almost certain RF is only between the remote and the hub, and the hub can control specific devices such as the PS3 via bluetooth. Some previous Harmony devices that had RF, such as the 890, also supported Z-Wave, but not this one.


Last night I decided to just use the remote, and not spend any time working on the configuration. I wanted to just give it a go with my day-to-day usage and get past my initial aggravation at it's shortcomings. I found it very easy to use. I had to keep reminding myself that I wasn't using my AR remote which required a lot of hard presses because of its flaky buttons and often the RF wouldn't work. The Harmony RF signal worked well from my seating location and with the hub in a rack in the other room. Signals were processed correctly almost every time. Off the top of my head I can't think of when it didn't, I'm sure it missed one or two, but that tends to happen with IR no matter what.

The remote feels very good in my hand. It's lighter than what I'm used to, and smaller. It feels good though, I don't feel like the light weight implies cheapness at all. The underside has a very nice texture to it, and the various contours work well to allow you to hold it steady, and move it easily to access the top buttons. Once you adjust to the button placement it'll be quite easy to operate it without looking. The button presses feel good, and the haptic feedback on long presses works well.

In all, as far as usability of the remote itself, I have only two complaints, one big, one small. I do think the lack of dedication skip/back buttons is bad. I'm sure I can work around it, but I think the decision to remove those was very shortsighted. The small complaint is that the top surface/touch screen is rather glossy and is going to show a lot of fingerprints. There may not be much that could be done about that of course.

Other than that, I like it. It's a good size, the button placement is pretty good, the lack of a physical keypad doesn't matter to me at all. Having the transport buttons well away from everything else should reduce accidental presses of other keys. I already prefer using it to any of my prior remotes.
post #71 of 1825
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Originally Posted by Keith Mickunas View Post



Other than that, I like it. It's a good size, the button placement is pretty good, the lack of a physical keypad doesn't matter to me at all. Having the transport buttons well away from everything else should reduce accidental presses of other keys. I already prefer using it to any of my prior remotes.

Keith give the swipe feature a chance for the missing skip buttons. i think it may surprise you. JT
post #72 of 1825
Hi all. I moved from the 900 to the Ultimate. The 900 had a lock screen feature so that you could clean the touch screen. I have not been able to find that option yet. Does anyone know if the Ultimate has a lock screen function?
post #73 of 1825
Thread Starter 
I tried the swipe feature tonight with the DVR. That actually works pretty well for skipping forwards and back. I'll have to look at what else can be done with that.
post #74 of 1825
Keith, - yes, I was a dedicated Pronto user. I loved the flexibility - hated the display, and the hit or miss nature of the touchscreen presses. The Harmony has it in so many ways over the Pronto. The progamming is one significant one. As you said, very flexible, but the flexibility came at a cost of infinite hours tweaking the placement or building the right icon, or trying to stuff everything onto a single screen. As I said, great to have the flexibility, but when I had the Ultimate up and running very much to my liking including all HT components and Lutron room and cabinet lighting, I was very impressed. Very straight-forward to program and the logic behind the operation was very much in tune with my thinking.

Used the remote at length to watch some DVR'ed shows last night (I never watch live TV anymore) and the swipe function worked marvelously. No need to even find the button. A couple of swipes, and the commercials are a thing of the past. I am finding the clean design of the remote very much to my liking. I have access to my daily use functionality in a very ergonomic way and can easily access my my more obscure device attributes with a few more presses of the touch scrren.

As I said, I was very hesitant to drop ultimate money on the Ultimate, but I am becoming a big fan the more I use it.

Jeff
post #75 of 1825
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Originally Posted by JeffCar View Post

Keith, - yes, I was a dedicated Pronto user. I loved the flexibility - hated the display, and the hit or miss nature of the touchscreen presses. The Harmony has it in so many ways over the Pronto. The progamming is one significant one. As you said, very flexible, but the flexibility came at a cost of infinite hours tweaking the placement or building the right icon, or trying to stuff everything onto a single screen. As I said, great to have the flexibility, but when I had the Ultimate up and running very much to my liking including all HT components and Lutron room and cabinet lighting, I was very impressed. Very straight-forward to program and the logic behind the operation was very much in tune with my thinking.

Used the remote at length to watch some DVR'ed shows last night (I never watch live TV anymore) and the swipe function worked marvelously. No need to even find the button. A couple of swipes, and the commercials are a thing of the past. I am finding the clean design of the remote very much to my liking. I have access to my daily use functionality in a very ergonomic way and can easily access my my more obscure device attributes with a few more presses of the touch scrren.

As I said, I was very hesitant to drop ultimate money on the Ultimate, but I am becoming a big fan the more I use it.

Jeff

Hi Jeff,

I'm glad you like your Harmony Ultimate. Your comparison of the programming vs Pronto is appreciated. At Harmony, our programming is often questioned for being too complicated and/or not flexible enough. It's a fine line and each customer has their own expectations. Within AVS Forum, things tend to lean towards more options vs fewer. We definitely try to offer flexibility in how you use and personalize our remotes without requiring unnecessary effort. We have a way to go, but I'm happy the product is meeting your expectations so far.

Ian.
post #76 of 1825
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Originally Posted by badwilly View Post

Hi all. I moved from the 900 to the Ultimate. The 900 had a lock screen feature so that you could clean the touch screen. I have not been able to find that option yet. Does anyone know if the Ultimate has a lock screen function?

Hi baldwilly,

Harmony Ultimate does not have a screen-lock feature like Harmony 900, although that's something we might add in a future update.

Ian.
post #77 of 1825
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Originally Posted by Keith Mickunas View Post

Last night I decided to just use the remote, and not spend any time working on the configuration. I wanted to just give it a go with my day-to-day usage and get past my initial aggravation at it's shortcomings. I found it very easy to use. I had to keep reminding myself that I wasn't using my AR remote which required a lot of hard presses because of its flaky buttons and often the RF wouldn't work. The Harmony RF signal worked well from my seating location and with the hub in a rack in the other room. Signals were processed correctly almost every time. Off the top of my head I can't think of when it didn't, I'm sure it missed one or two, but that tends to happen with IR no matter what.

The remote feels very good in my hand. It's lighter than what I'm used to, and smaller. It feels good though, I don't feel like the light weight implies cheapness at all. The underside has a very nice texture to it, and the various contours work well to allow you to hold it steady, and move it easily to access the top buttons. Once you adjust to the button placement it'll be quite easy to operate it without looking. The button presses feel good, and the haptic feedback on long presses works well.

In all, as far as usability of the remote itself, I have only two complaints, one big, one small. I do think the lack of dedication skip/back buttons is bad. I'm sure I can work around it, but I think the decision to remove those was very shortsighted. The small complaint is that the top surface/touch screen is rather glossy and is going to show a lot of fingerprints. There may not be much that could be done about that of course.

Other than that, I like it. It's a good size, the button placement is pretty good, the lack of a physical keypad doesn't matter to me at all. Having the transport buttons well away from everything else should reduce accidental presses of other keys. I already prefer using it to any of my prior remotes.
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Originally Posted by Keith Mickunas View Post

I tried the swipe feature tonight with the DVR. That actually works pretty well for skipping forwards and back. I'll have to look at what else can be done with that.

Hi Keith,

thanks for the feedback. I know you're not totally on board with some of our decisions but I appreciate you giving the remote a chance. I'm interested in your experience as you continue to use it and get more comfortable with the design.

Ian.
post #78 of 1825
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Originally Posted by JeffCar View Post

No problems setting the Ultimate up on my end, jnnt29 with the exception that it would not import the Touch configuration that I had developed. Had to re-enter all after returning the Touch and upgrading to the Ultimate. A minor inconvenience given the ease of setup really.

Hi JeffCar,

Regarding the import/upgrade feature in myharmony.com, we prioritized supporting upgrading from older remotes such as Harmony One, 900, 1100, 880, etc which used the older Harmony Software, vs those upgrading from more recent remotes like Harmony Touch. We'll get there, but that obviously didn't help you this time.

I'm happy you found the setup overall to be easy.

Ian.
post #79 of 1825
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Originally Posted by HarmonyIan View Post


Hi Keith,

thanks for the feedback. I know you're not totally on board with some of our decisions but I appreciate you giving the remote a chance. I'm interested in your experience as you continue to use it and get more comfortable with the design.

Ian.

Last night I spent more time using it with the DVR and XBMC. And again it always worked as expected. The swipe feature is beginning to win me over. I haven't spent anymore time on programming it, but I will this weekend. I need to fix up some of my activities and figure out how to change the default page the touch screen is on, stuff like that. Hopefully I'll get my adapters from Monoprice and can get in the rack and finalize the wiring arrangement.

Over the years I've used a Marantz RC2000 Mk2, Pronto, Harmony 890, and most recently the Acoustic Research AARX18G. The AR remote never lived up to my expectations. It has powerful macro support, and can handle a lot of devices, but it's button life doesn't seem real great, the RF support was weak, and quite frankly, activities work better than macros. There's only so much logic that you can put in a macro, but the Harmony remotes keep track of what is turned on, and it performs the appropriate actions as far as turning on and off devices, changing inputs, etc., almost flawlessly (IR is just not 100% reliable by its very nature). I'm rather impressed that the Ultimate can do everything those other remotes did, and more, without looking like some big monster remote. The only design decisions I can quibble with on the Ultimate remote are the lack of the two extra transport buttons and the lack of an easily user replaceable battery. The unconventional layout works well and has caused me no trouble, all other decisions about button placement and the choices of hard buttons are great, and I don't mind the lack of physical a keypad at all. The texture and shape of the bottom of the remote is excellent, from that standpoint I can't think of a nicer remote that I've ever handled. The size and weight are also excellent.

In a way it reminds me of a TiVo remote, not in design, but rather concept. The TiVo remote (and in fact it's entire UI) was revolutionary in some ways. The remote's only drawback being the symmetrical shape, but you could figure out immediately if you were holding it backwards because of the button placement. That remote was easy to operate without looking at it, and it felt good in your hand. I'm not sure if I ever saw an ergonomic design like that prior to the TiVo. The Ultimate fits well in your hand, it's easy to tell if you are holding it right, and it's easy to transition between the sets of buttons. Once I get a handle on the placement of the menu, guide, dvr buttons, etc., I reckon 95% or more of the time I'll be able to use it without looking at it. I would imagine that the only time I'll have to really page through the touch screen is either to use favorites, or when I'm tweaking settings on the receiver which has just too many controls as it is, and it requires a good programmable remote to use since the factory remote doesn't provide access to over half the commands.

I'd consider paying $500 or more for this remote if it had TCP/IP support for most receivers, blu-ray players, XBMC, etc. You get to that point and you have full control, plus confirmation of commands being executed, and then you have a killer setup. I just wish the hub complied with what has become the standard for its connections, both with the IR outputs and the USB power cords.
post #80 of 1825
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Originally Posted by Keith Mickunas View Post

I tried the swipe feature tonight with the DVR. That actually works pretty well for skipping forwards and back. I'll have to look at what else can be done with that.

Keith I thought you would like the swipe. I have been trying to use the Ultimate exclusively as well and have been very pleased with the results. My Harmony One just sits in its cradle. One feature that I have started to explore is the remote app on my IPhone and IPad which allows me to adjust volume and make changes from other rooms. I think if Logitech expands the command features to other home devices to control lights and such this could really be a well rounded home automation device. I could have a Apple touch in one room, a IPad in another and carry my IPhone and be able to make audio adjustments and control the HT from any room that I have WIFI access to. I do agree that it would be nice to have IP as well.
post #81 of 1825
How are you guys with the Ultimate making due without a numeric keypad? I see that as the biggest drawback for me (I don't have the remote - but am waiting on the lower end model to come out in a couple of weeks).
post #82 of 1825
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Originally Posted by bdunn13 View Post

How are you guys with the Ultimate making due without a numeric keypad? I see that as the biggest drawback for me (I don't have the remote - but am waiting on the lower end model to come out in a couple of weeks).

I haven't found it to be too much of an issue. I have set up the favorites and it is more or less a single press of the channel icon and the remote automatically sends the correct channel number to the STB to change the channel. So instead of keying in three digits and OK into my Harmony one I just press one channel short cut and OK and I'm finished. The remote also provide feedback in the form of the remote vibrating after a soft button is touched. Even using the number sort key pad isn't a major issue.
post #83 of 1825
I am thinking of upgrading my TV to a plasma screen and in doing so, may change in my old BDI external AV furniture for an enclosed piece of AV furniture.

I am a long term user of the URC MX500 and still own 3 with the reverse engineered IR-clone to aid programming, so I do like the built in buttons of the remote.

That is why I upgraded to the Harmony one a couple years, thinking the hard button feel was good.

I am looking around at options given the possible enclosed components and so one of the options was to get an IR extender that will allow me to keep using the Harmony One.

One option was to consider upgrade to the Harmony Ultimate.

Concerns I have include:

1) Reports that Logitech is looking for someone to buy the remote portion of the company. This makes for some uncertain support or possible future issues.

2) Lack of number pad buttons (rather than touch screen buttons). Would appreciate input from those that have used it.

3) Lack of full time FF/SKip forward, RW/Skip back. Yes, there is always hold button functions, but it is harder to remember things like this I think.

4) No user changeable batteries. Yes, there may be something available down the road, but who knows, especially with question of sale of remotes. This sort of builds in a possible end of life. My MX-500's are over 10 years old and still working strong.

Also, if someone can describe the use of the color buttons? I would have liked if at least they were in the same order as the ABCD Tivo buttons. It again may get confusing to use them in a different order or with different colors than the ABCD? Just curious.

And lastly, is there an easy upgrade from a Harmony One to the Ultimate importing prior settings to start?

Thank you in advance for some opinions of the people that have already used the remote.
post #84 of 1825
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Originally Posted by bdunn13 View Post

How are you guys with the Ultimate making due without a numeric keypad? I see that as the biggest drawback for me (I don't have the remote - but am waiting on the lower end model to come out in a couple of weeks).

I honestly don't care, but I've never been much in the habit of using it. I use the favorites feature of my DVR, which allows me to see the guide just for channels I watch. I remap the guide button on the remote to bring up the favorites, and I find that to be a quick way to find what I want when I watch live TV. I just can't be bothered to remember a lot of random three digit numbers so I can jump to channels directly. With the favorites on the remote also that makes it even easier.
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Originally Posted by Tachy View Post

I am thinking of upgrading my TV to a plasma screen and in doing so, may change in my old BDI external AV furniture for an enclosed piece of AV furniture.

I am a long term user of the URC MX500 and still own 3 with the reverse engineered IR-clone to aid programming, so I do like the built in buttons of the remote.

That is why I upgraded to the Harmony one a couple years, thinking the hard button feel was good.

I am looking around at options given the possible enclosed components and so one of the options was to get an IR extender that will allow me to keep using the Harmony One.

One option was to consider upgrade to the Harmony Ultimate.

Concerns I have include:

1) Reports that Logitech is looking for someone to buy the remote portion of the company. This makes for some uncertain support or possible future issues.
That's definitely a concern, but considering that desire to sell was brought up months ago and yet they still are producing new remotes that must mean the business is viable. Also keep in mind that the website is myharmony.com, so that can be transferred to a buyer. And Ian has said the customers will continue to be supported. Sure there's risk, but that's the way it is with these things sometimes.

2) Lack of number pad buttons (rather than touch screen buttons). Would appreciate input from those that have used it.
See my response above.

3) Lack of full time FF/SKip forward, RW/Skip back. Yes, there is always hold button functions, but it is harder to remember things like this I think.
Well we've discussed that a fair bit. Swipe works, and the hold does too, and considering the lack of buttons remembering that there's long press for that is no big deal. Now remembering the long press for other buttons will be trickier as they'll most likely be less intuitive.

4) No user changeable batteries. Yes, there may be something available down the road, but who knows, especially with question of sale of remotes. This sort of builds in a possible end of life. My MX-500's are over 10 years old and still working strong.
Batteries for other Harmony remotes are widely available on ebay and at other sites, as are some other parts. Assuming someone identifies a source for the battery they'll be out there at some point. I'll review the instructions for accessing the battery tonight and see if I think it's accessible without harming the remote.

Also, if someone can describe the use of the color buttons? I would have liked if at least they were in the same order as the ABCD Tivo buttons. It again may get confusing to use them in a different order or with different colors than the ABCD? Just curious.
I've never gotten much into the habit of using those, they weren't on my 890 or other remotes. They are four buttons in a row though, shouldn't be hard for you to use.

And lastly, is there an easy upgrade from a Harmony One to the Ultimate importing prior settings to start?
90% of my 890 settings imported without issue. The order of the activities was different, and one of my activities lost its receiver input setting and there were a few other minor issues. I think others have discussed the One in this thread already.

Thank you in advance for some opinions of the people that have already used the remote.
post #85 of 1825
As Keith said, I am also not a big user of the digits on the keypad. If I am watching live TV I pull up the guide to figure out what show is on when and with a press on the show, am transported to the correct channel. IN reality, I watch little live TV - preferring instead to use the DVR to record a bunch of things I want to watch and go from there. I almost nerver know the number of the channel I am seeking and find it much easier to view the guide rather than try to remember the channel number, or what is on a given channel at a given time. Again, time shifting programs makes "what is on when" less of an issue for me.

Jeff
post #86 of 1825
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Originally Posted by Tachy View Post

I am thinking of upgrading my TV to a plasma screen and in doing so, may change in my old BDI external AV furniture for an enclosed piece of AV furniture.

I am a long term user of the URC MX500 and still own 3 with the reverse engineered IR-clone to aid programming, so I do like the built in buttons of the remote.

That is why I upgraded to the Harmony one a couple years, thinking the hard button feel was good.

I am looking around at options given the possible enclosed components and so one of the options was to get an IR extender that will allow me to keep using the Harmony One.

One option was to consider upgrade to the Harmony Ultimate.

Concerns I have include:

1) Reports that Logitech is looking for someone to buy the remote portion of the company. This makes for some uncertain support or possible future issues.

2) Lack of number pad buttons (rather than touch screen buttons). Would appreciate input from those that have used it.

3) Lack of full time FF/SKip forward, RW/Skip back. Yes, there is always hold button functions, but it is harder to remember things like this I think.

4) No user changeable batteries. Yes, there may be something available down the road, but who knows, especially with question of sale of remotes. This sort of builds in a possible end of life. My MX-500's are over 10 years old and still working strong.

Also, if someone can describe the use of the color buttons? I would have liked if at least they were in the same order as the ABCD Tivo buttons. It again may get confusing to use them in a different order or with different colors than the ABCD? Just curious.

And lastly, is there an easy upgrade from a Harmony One to the Ultimate importing prior settings to start?

Thank you in advance for some opinions of the people that have already used the remote.



1) Reports that Logitech is looking for someone to buy the remote portion of the company. This makes for some uncertain support. This would be an issue regarding any of the Harmony Remotes current or new going forward until a sale takes place.

2) Lack of number pad buttons (rather than touch screen buttons). Would appreciate input from those that have used IT. This hasn’t been an problem at all. You can set up the favorites and the touch pad for the direct entering isn’t bad at all.


3) Lack of full time FF/SKip forward, RW/Skip back. Yes, there is always hold button functions, but it is harder to remember things like this I think. I have had no problem using the Swipe feature or the assigning multiple commands to the “>>” and the “<<” and the swipe works quite well.


4) No user changeable batteries. Yes, there may be something available down the road, but who knows, especially with question of sale of remotes. This sort of builds in a possible end of life. My MX-500's are over 10 years old and still working strong. I bet someone will come out with an off brand replacement battery if a need arises..


Also, if someone can describe the use of the color buttons? I would have liked if at least they were in the same order as the ABCD Tivo buttons. It again may get confusing to use them in a different order or with different colors than the ABCD? Just curious. They work based on the activity and the unit that controls the color buttons. For example when watching TV my FIOS box changes channels and the color buttons are control that STB as well. For watching Blu Rays the color button correspond to that activity. I don’t have a TIVO anymore and can’t comment on that..


And lastly, is there an easy upgrade from a Harmony One to the Ultimate importing prior settings to start? When I moved from my Harmony One all of my activities moved over without any issue. .
post #87 of 1825
Thanks for the quick reply. I am sure it is a good remote. Not sure i will like it as much as the Harmony One though.
post #88 of 1825
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Originally Posted by Tachy View Post

I have looked at the Design Standout stuff before. One of my concerns was that I did not think the front to back shelf measurement would comfortably fit the 4520 without leaving the back off. (Unless they sell extended backs like the salamanders do)

I think you put this in the wrong thread Tachy.
post #89 of 1825
Thanks, I had already noticed that and moved it to the correct place.
post #90 of 1825
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Originally Posted by Tachy View Post

Thanks for the quick reply. I am sure it is a good remote. Not sure i will like it as much as the Harmony One though.

I too have the Harmony One and have to say I felt the same way when the Harmony Touch was released. Though I have the Touch it never replaced my One because of the issues with the menu and skip buttons. The Ultimate may share the same body and hard key layout of the Touch, but changes to the menu and the ability to assign multiple commands to the hard keys have changed my views and I haven't picked up my One since.
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