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post #31 of 39
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Originally Posted by ousooner2 View Post

I would have not gone with the center and gone with a better sub, but that's just me. If your left and right mains can't create a solid center image that close together then I wouldn't be looking at those speakers

Opinion, but most will agree I'd think that the LFM-1ex looks much nicer too. I'd use that as bargaining!

I still prefer a center even with fairly capable speakers. That was driven home when using my brother's setup minus a center speaker but with good full range speakers. YMMV.

Will the bronze speaker cone achieve WAF so he can keep the grill off? The Klipsch isn't too bad looking really, either.
post #32 of 39
I do too, but I was just basing it off the fact that it looks like in the OP's setup they'd be about 6' apart AND you'd have to raise the tv most likely (unless the center is very slim). Not a big issue on raising it as you could just put something under the tv stand/base, but still....just pointing it out

For that budget I'd go with the promising 2.1 setup before a 3.0...and a half setup. Not that the rw-12d is horrible, but it doesn't seem to be liked too much.
post #33 of 39
Sure you'll enjoy the NHT's smile.gif
post #34 of 39
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Originally Posted by ousooner2 View Post

I do too, but I was just basing it off the fact that it looks like in the OP's setup they'd be about 6' apart AND you'd have to raise the tv most likely (unless the center is very slim). Not a big issue on raising it as you could just put something under the tv stand/base, but still....just pointing it out

For that budget I'd go with the promising 2.1 setup before a 3.0...and a half setup. Not that the rw-12d is horrible, but it doesn't seem to be liked too much.

Raising the tv a bit shouldn't be an issue, there's plenty of room on top (or build a shelf above it but that's messin' with the WAF). The Klipsch is pretty well liked, do you have one? I do in my bedroom, very good deal for $300.
post #35 of 39
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Originally Posted by shadyJ View Post

Since the ports are only producing the lowest end of the speaker's tuning, it means most of that bass is omnidirectional, so it isn't going to be affected by the environment unless you cover the ports completely. Rear ported speakers won't sound different than front ported speakers unless the port's tuning is unusually high.

Thats not true. Ports dont just play the tunning frequency or just the lowest frequency. They will play frequency below and above the tunning frequency, sometime even further then the roll off of the box in a sealed mode.
It is not just the tuning frequency that matters, but the overall cabinet volume. Thats where it will play a major impact on the overall bass response.
Tunning frequency difference of only of 10hz could play a difference within the same cabinet volume. Same with cabinet volume, you can have the same tunning but different in cabinet volume, the response is going to be different. The greater the high frequency are augmented, the bigger impact it will have over when place close to the wall. So yes, there is a difference whether the port is in front of rear when the speaker is close to the wall.
Just go play some "bass note'' and see what you hear from the port.


http://www.bcae1.com/spboxad1.htm#ported

Thats a good site to show the example i was reffering.
post #36 of 39
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by commsysman View Post

I would also suggest NHT speakers for your application. They are some of the few that are good for in-cabinet installations like yours.

A pair of the NHT Classic Two speakers runs around $600. Add the NHT Absolute Center speaker ($300) and you have a great system that
will work well in that location.

I would suggest a Klipsch RW-12D to stay within your budget.

Winner winner. Order has been placed through HIDEF Lifestyle & Newegg. Between the white color (WAF) and the enclosed setup this seems to be the best choice for me. Also, I think the Absolute Center will fit without me having to raise up the TV, but even if I have to it shouldn't be too big of a deal. I wish I had another 300 or so to upgrade the Sub to say a Ryhtmik but it's just not in the budget right now. I appreciate the idea of ditching the center completely and putting that $$ into a better Sub, but I've had a center channel of some kind for the last 20 years and I'd feel naked w/o one.

Thanks so much for all your help with this. More than I could've hoped for when I started this thread. I'll update with pics once I'm all dialed in.

Total spent - 1,202. Nailed it!
post #37 of 39
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Originally Posted by miked2023 View Post

Winner winner. Order has been placed through HIDEF Lifestyle & Newegg. Between the white color (WAF) and the enclosed setup this seems to be the best choice for me. Also, I think the Absolute Center will fit without me having to raise up the TV, but even if I have to it shouldn't be too big of a deal. I wish I had another 300 or so to upgrade the Sub to say a Ryhtmik but it's just not in the budget right now. I appreciate the idea of ditching the center completely and putting that $$ into a better Sub, but I've had a center channel of some kind for the last 20 years and I'd feel naked w/o one.

Thanks so much for all your help with this. More than I could've hoped for when I started this thread. I'll update with pics once I'm all dialed in.

Total spent - 1,202. Nailed it!

NHT is good stuff and that Klipsch sub is a great deal. You did good smile.gif
post #38 of 39
You'll love that setup. Congrats
post #39 of 39
Thread Starter 
Ok, so I finally got all the speakers and set them up yesterday (the white NHTs were back ordered). I've run Audyssey several times and I keep getting crossover range on the front mains around 150-200. That seems pretty high, no? I thought maybe I had a bad connection (1st time banana plug user - open screw type, a little confusing) so I removed all the banana plugs and hard-wired in but basically got the same results.

Also, with the Klipsh 12-D - when I run Auddyssey should I turn it to crossover 120 or Lowpass Off - LFE Mode? I keep getting -12 db which I read is maxing out.


UPDATE: - I did it a few more times (with the fam out of the house -lol) and got the mains down to 80 with the center 100 and rears 60. But then I do it again and I get 150 for the mains. WTF!? I know there's an art to it, but this is all over the place!

P.S. - when I found the Audyssey mic in my drawer, the tip of it had been exposed and shuffled around amongst other items. I'm sure these mics are sensitive, perhaps the mic itself has been compromised


Edited by miked2023 - 5/5/13 at 12:50pm
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