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post #151 of 3264
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Originally Posted by Omni009 View Post

Gotta throw in a warning here...I thought they were great too until I dug a little deeper. They have a horrible return policy that they don't disclose, you open it and it's store credit only from that point on. Also many BBB complaints, and they have a negative rating with the BBB.

I saw that too, but they are a authorized retailer, delivered as promised and got a great price. They told me that I could only get store credit for a return, and obviously I would not buy there who knows who warranty.
post #152 of 3264
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Originally Posted by tbass2k View Post

I've been hoping I could join this party.....sold my 65ST30 this week; thought about selling it last year and upgrading to the 2012 ST50 (all panny's discussed here represent the 65" size unless otherwise noted) since I heard it was a significant upgrade, but decided to hold off since one of the Panasonic reps at the "other" forum said they were coming with some significant plasma tech upgrades in the 2013 models. I have always watched the prices and discussions on these TVs over time and the prices don't seem to fluctuate that often; only once did I see the ST50 on Amazon's site go to the ~ $2000 mark, so I figured i wouldn't wait around this year and miss out on a great price even if it wasn't the best price. At any rate, I went into to hhgregg this past week, where I bought my ST30 at the end of 2011; the first day I saw the ST60 and VT60 they looked very similar to me so I decided I would go with the ST60 after I sold my ST30; however, after playing with the picture settings and examining them both more closely on a second visit, the VT60 really started looking significantly better to me; I also started hearing about the input lag and so so 3D performance on the ST60, and since I'm a serious gamer, I didn't want to be irritated while gaming, especially on the next gen systems coming out later this year, plus this is the last HDTV I plan on buying before OLED prices come down to earth.

Long story short, I told myself if I could get the VT60 for under 3K (including tax) I would pull the trigger (only from a reputable source though). I scoured the internet for the best price on this model and from my research, EastCoast TVs had the best advertised price. I printed out their ad and took it to hhgregg, they wouldn't match it, the lowest they would go was 3K (not including 8% sales tax and $80 for delivery) with a 10 minute window for me to decide, the 10 minute thing really angered me and I left the store. I didn't want to deal with BB since I always feel the no-commission drones could care less, but I thought, "what the heck", might as well try. So I went to BB and showed a home theater rep (who was very friendly and helpful) the eastcoasttv ad, he went to ask the manager, and with no questions or counter-offers they matched the price, with free shipping. My 65" VT60 out the door total price was $2895,97 after 5.5% sales tax and I got my dad the 60" VT60 for $2262.97 after 5.5% sales tax (they also gave me my dad's outer county sales tax rate).

My dad still has his Pioneer PRO-101FD (calibrated using CALMAN software but not professionally calibrated), so we will do some PQ comparisons after we calibrate his new Panny. Looks like BB, at least mine, is trying to live up to their name, obviously YMMV with your local BB but it's worth a shot. BTW, BB's in-store advertised price at the time I was there on the 65VT60 was $3399.98 and the 60VT60 was $2799.98. HHgregg was ~$3450 on the 65VT60 and they didn't even have the 60VT60 available to order.

P.S. Hey everybody, leave CSIG1001 alone! He might have fumbled the numbers a little bit at first but sometimes unbelievable deals actually happen.

Thanks for the support
post #153 of 3264
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Originally Posted by sfitzger View Post

Careful on this I am dealing with them now as I ordered the 60"....They up sale you hard and now the express shipping they promised has turned into 14 business days to get the TV...they did refund the shipping but they are a hassle to deal with for the low price.


yikes, I guess I won't be dealing with East Cost TV's.

Please update when they ship and you receive the TV, I am curious if they actually come through on time with zero issues.
post #154 of 3264
I just got back from spending 4 hours in BB Magnolia with my full 32GB thumb stick full of test images and everything you could shake a stick at comparing the ZT/VT/F8500. At the end of the day I must have been in BB on the right night because they were wheeling and dealing.

They quoted the following:

ZT 65 for $3300 out the door
VT 65 for $2750 out the door
F8500 for $2800 out the door

I chose the VT because at the end of the day you could BARELY see a difference between the two panels unless they turned back on their lighting, then the ZT took a slight edge due to glare. Bottom line is the ZT was not worth $550 more and I plan on using that money to get the VT professionally calibrated.

The deals are out there, you just need to pit stores against each other. I got hard on the manager and asked him if BB is going to stay in the game and start selling off volume versus profit. I'm still buying TV's from you and I'll send everyone I know in the Chicagoland area to this BB to buy them smile.gif It worked. I happen to know the cost of all three panels and I"ll tell you what, don't feel bad for them when they tell you "We're aren't making any money.". Each panel is marked up over $1000.
post #155 of 3264
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Originally Posted by MaynardLD50 View Post

I just got back from spending 4 hours in BB Magnolia with my full 32GB thumb stick full of test images and everything you could shake a stick at comparing the ZT/VT/F8500. At the end of the day I must have been in BB on the right night because they were wheeling and dealing.

They quoted the following:

ZT 65 for $3300 out the door
VT 65 for $2750 out the door
F8500 for $2800 out the door

I chose the VT because at the end of the day you could BARELY see a difference between the two panels unless they turned back on their lighting, then the ZT took a slight edge due to glare. Bottom line is the ZT was not worth $550 more and I plan on using that money to get the VT professionally calibrated.

The deals are out there, you just need to pit stores against each other. I got hard on the manager and asked him if BB is going to stay in the game and start selling off volume versus profit. I'm still buying TV's from you and I'll send everyone I know in the Chicagoland area to this BB to buy them smile.gif It worked. I happen to know the cost of all three panels and I"ll tell you what, don't feel bad for them when they tell you "We're aren't making any money.". Each panel is marked up over $1000.


Thats why i got my 65" VT60 for 2599.00 then , i guess the truth is out there

Thanks
post #156 of 3264
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Originally Posted by mr stroke View Post

yikes, I guess I won't be dealing with East Cost TV's.

Please update when they ship and you receive the TV, I am curious if they actually come through on time with zero issues.


It's on for delivery on Monday but in honestly with the way they treated me and their lies we shall see what happens.

Also I want to note a few things

1) Best buy has the 60 VT60 on sale this weekend for 2599
2) For shits and giggles I asked if they would match the east coast tv price....they did without a counter offer with free shipping...going to try and get a refund from east cost and buy it from best buy since the return policy sucks for east coast tv's...so my local BB without even showing them an add and just said east coast tv's had it for 2149 and they came back and matched it.
post #157 of 3264
when i went to best buy i did not even bring a ad

my deal was they did not have the ST60 65" at any warehouse so they offered me the 65" VT

but it all depends who you talk too.. if you get a standard employee they cant do crap
post #158 of 3264
Paul's TV who is a Panasonic Authorized dealer has a special on the 65" VT60 for $2999 out the door no tax(even in CA) with code SAVE300













I didn't want to wait for delivery so I went to BestBuy/Magnolia and they priced matched it.



Came out to $2774.99+tax for the 65" VT60:)
post #159 of 3264
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Originally Posted by mr stroke View Post

Paul's TV who is a Panasonic Authorized dealer has a special on the 65" VT60 for $2999 out the door no tax(even in CA) with code SAVE300













I didn't want to wait for delivery so I went to BestBuy/Magnolia and they priced matched it.



Came out to $2774.99+tax for the 65" VT60:)

Did they basically take another 225$ off for tax purposes to price match the 2999$ from Pauls tv?
post #160 of 3264
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Originally Posted by pannyfanatic View Post

Did they basically take another 225$ off for tax purposes to price match the 2999$ from Pauls tv?

Yes
post #161 of 3264
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Originally Posted by mr stroke View Post

Yes

Damn I gotta try that .. 2800 out the door is awesome for 65" ..I was still looking at the stupid amazon prices and wondering when the hell would these come down. I need to put my haggling hat on now.

Quick qtn: I hvaea 50" wall mounted right now.. do you guys think I can reuse the mount or do I have to purchase a new one entirely
Edited by hardrock_121 - 6/12/13 at 2:09pm
post #162 of 3264
Just pulled the trigger on the 65VT60 from BB. I asked them to price match Pauls TV sales price and due to having to include tax, they came back with $2899 + tax. Got them to take another $50 off so out the door with tax, I paid $2995. Not as great as some of the other deals people got, but I don't think I did too bad. I was tired of waiting so I told myself if I could get the 65" for under $3k, I'd do it.
post #163 of 3264
Anyone know what the best price magnolia can do for a 55" VT60? I must admit I'm furious I even need to be looking at the VT60, the ST60 is everything I want and the price is oh so perfect, I'm furious with Panasonic for screwing up with the input lag as if they were my own brother and slept with my wife. I got rid of the 50GT50 I got from a amazon price match to Paul's for around 900 but all the improvements to the ST60 addresses my few issues with the GT. which reminds me I'm also furious they didn't bring the GT line to US this year as that would have been my go to set considering it fixes the only issue I had with the ST60 plus some added benefits.
Anyway, so I have to look towards the VT, although I may look towards the F8500 if I can't find a decent deal, so I'm looking to see what the best 55" price out there is. Thanks
post #164 of 3264
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Originally Posted by FiveOhFour View Post

Anyone know what the best price magnolia can do for a 55" VT60? I must admit I'm furious I even need to be looking at the VT60, the ST60 is everything I want and the price is oh so perfect, I'm furious with Panasonic for screwing up with the input lag... although I may look towards the F8500 if I can't find a decent deal, so I'm looking to see what the best 55" price out there is. Thanks

F8500 has similar input lag as ST60 though.
post #165 of 3264
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Originally Posted by S T I G View Post

F8500 has similar input lag as ST60 though.


One of the reason I said hell no to the ST60 and F8500 . On top of that the F8500 has been reported several times with crushed/floating blacks with similar black levels to a 2011 panny

This is going to be a gaming monitor one day in the man cave but for right now its a primary for watch is HDTV and Blu-ray

but its nice to know you have one of the fastest plasmas for 2013 if the gaming urge ever kicks in
post #166 of 3264
http://www.abesofmaine.com/shoppingCart.do?item=PSTCP65VT60&addItem=PSTCP65VT60&kbid=*

Abes of Maine $2700 total for the 65TV60 no tax free shipping.

I spent at least 3 hours at 2 different Magnolia locations looking at the VT, ZT and the 8500 Samsung. I watched the Movie mode with dark room setting for the 8500, THX Cinema for the Panasonics. For fine detail the Panasonic clearly showed an advantage. It also showed an advantage in motion detail as the Samsung seemed choppy in comparison. Shadow detail is another advantage. Also colors were simply stunning on the Panasonics.

After comparing the ZT to the 8500 I went to the ZT vs. VT. I had select films playing from a Panasonic bluray player that had dual HDMI outputs. I honestly could not see a difference between the two. I realize that the ZT will hold it's blacks better in a bright room, but due to the studio master panel it also has less light output by about 5 foot lamperts and less contrast ratio as seen in review after review comparing the two from Value Electronics, Cnet, etc. Also I did quite a bit of 3-D viewing as it will be my first 3-D tv. Due to the higher light output the Panasonic holds the advantage here as well. ZT had a hard time synching to the glasses so it was more troublesome when viewing content. The VT in THX mode had a slightly more saturated picture as well, I don't know why.
Edited by PRO-630HD - 6/15/13 at 7:20am
post #167 of 3264
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Originally Posted by PRO-630HD View Post

http://www.abesofmaine.com/shoppingCart.do?item=PSTCP65VT60&addItem=PSTCP65VT60&kbid=*

Abes of Maine $2700 total for the 65TV60 no tax free shipping.

I spent at least 3 hours at 2 different Magnolia locations looking at the VT, ZT and the 8500 Samsung. I watched the Movie mode with dark room setting for the 8500, THX Cinema for the Panasonics. For fine detail the Panasonic clearly showed an advantage. It also showed an advantage in motion detail as the Samsung seemed choppy in comparison. Shadow detail is another advantage. Also colors were simply stunning on the Panasonics.

After comparing the ZT to the 8500 I went to the ZT vs. VT. I had select films playing from a Panasonic bluray player that had dual HDMI outputs. I honestly could not see a difference between the two. I realize that the ZT will hold it's blacks better in a bright room, but due to the studio master panel it also has less light output by about 5 foot lamperts and less contrast ratio as seen in review after review comparing the two from Value Electronics, Cnet, etc. Also I did quite a bit of 3-D viewing as it will be my first 3-D tv. Due to the higher light output the Panasonic holds the advantage here as well. ZT had a hard time synching to the glasses so it was more troublesome when viewing content. The VT in THX mode had a slightly more saturated picture as well, I don't know why.
Seems like a fairly restrictive return policy, but that may be the norm for non-Amazon size etailers, it reads as if you sign for it, it's yours and good luck returning it if there's a problem. Anyone have experience with returns at Abe's?
post #168 of 3264
Pauls current deal of $3000 white glove delivered seems like a better deal.
post #169 of 3264
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Originally Posted by PRO-630HD View Post

Pauls current deal of $3000 white glove delivered seems like a better deal.

+1


thats why I didn't use Abes or East Coast TV's. Authorized dealer, good return policy, and no up sale after you order. It was worth the extra $300 IMO.
post #170 of 3264
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Originally Posted by keenan View Post

Seems like a fairly restrictive return policy, but that may be the norm for non-Amazon size etailers, it reads as if you sign for it, it's yours and good luck returning it if there's a problem. Anyone have experience with returns at Abe's?

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Originally Posted by PRO-630HD View Post

Pauls current deal of $3000 white glove delivered seems like a better deal.

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Originally Posted by mr stroke View Post

+1


thats why I didn't use Abes or East Coast TV's. Authorized dealer, good return policy, and no up sale after you order. It was worth the extra $300 IMO.

I agree East Coast TV, Abes's and even Paul's TV are not your best choice to buy TVs from. Here's Paul's return/exchange policy:

- What is your return / exchange policy?

You are allowed to return or exchange your product within 30 days of the purchase date. The product must be in new, working condition. Paul's TV is not responsible for damages caused by the customer. A 15% restocking fee and applicable shipping charges will apply. You must return all original packaging and included materials, e.g., Styrofoam, manuals, remotes, registration cards, etc., or additional charges may apply. On bundle purchases in which there is a set price for multiple items, if you choose to return one item in the bundle, the remaining items will be charged at their individual retail price.


I suggest a quality seller, like Best Buy, or to save $ chose CP or VE so you get the respect and great customer support we all deserve. It's a buyer beware when you do business with the lowest priced no frills etailers.
post #171 of 3264
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Originally Posted by PRO-630HD View Post

http://www.abesofmaine.com/shoppingCart.do?item=PSTCP65VT60&addItem=PSTCP65VT60&kbid=*

Abes of Maine $2700 total for the 65TV60 no tax free shipping.

I spent at least 3 hours at 2 different Magnolia locations looking at the VT, ZT and the 8500 Samsung. I watched the Movie mode with dark room setting for the 8500, THX Cinema for the Panasonics. For fine detail the Panasonic clearly showed an advantage. It also showed an advantage in motion detail as the Samsung seemed choppy in comparison. Shadow detail is another advantage. Also colors were simply stunning on the Panasonics.

After comparing the ZT to the 8500 I went to the ZT vs. VT. I had select films playing from a Panasonic bluray player that had dual HDMI outputs. I honestly could not see a difference between the two. I realize that the ZT will hold it's blacks better in a bright room, but due to the studio master panel it also has less light output by about 5 foot lamperts and less contrast ratio as seen in review after review comparing the two from Value Electronics, Cnet, etc. Also I did quite a bit of 3-D viewing as it will be my first 3-D tv. Due to the higher light output the Panasonic holds the advantage here as well. ZT had a hard time synching to the glasses so it was more troublesome when viewing content. The VT in THX mode had a slightly more saturated picture as well, I don't know why.


Just what I noticed with my 65" VT vs the F8500 when i bought it over a month ago. The motion and shadow detail beats samsung forgot to mention black levels . I am sure the F8500 is great for day viewing and nice and bright but for night time movie watching just like all the professional calibrators mentioned at the shootout the VT/ZT wins
post #172 of 3264
What's the lowest seen for 60 & 65 inches?
post #173 of 3264
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Originally Posted by hardrock_121 View Post

What's the lowest seen for 60 & 65 inches?
Got mine for 2599.00 plus tax best buy 65" . Free day night calibration and 115.00 back rewards . Used a free 20.00 gift card got for signing up for my credit card store
Oh yeah it was a VT60
post #174 of 3264
how the heck did u manage to get 65" for $2600 ? the 60" is priced at 2700 right now.. did u price match with somethin g else or some other offer or was it simply negotiating?
post #175 of 3264

That's too much!eek.gif

post #176 of 3264
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Originally Posted by hardrock_121 View Post

how the heck did u manage to get 65" for $2600 ? the 60" is priced at 2700 right now.. did u price match with somethin g else or some other offer or was it simply negotiating?

If you go back about 4 weeks in this thread you will see my posts. The general manager from my best buy was cool
post #177 of 3264
Sorry for doubting you before, CSIG. I found a manager who was willing to wheel and deal on the ZT60, so I know it's not impossible to get great discounts this early in the cycle.
post #178 of 3264
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Originally Posted by vinnie97 View Post

Sorry for doubting you before, CSIG. I found a manager who was willing to wheel and deal on the ZT60, so I know it's not impossible to get great discounts this early in the cycle.

Its cool . So what did you get your ZT for?
post #179 of 3264
3,331.13 including tax :0
post #180 of 3264
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Originally Posted by vinnie97 View Post

3,331.13 including tax :0

I can confirm Vinnie's price. Our ZT is being delivered for $3662.65 including tax, and they gave us an extra discount on the BDI stand. So, the deals are out there. I think BB just wants to move as many ZTs as they can, and maybe leave less for others? In another BB location, we were offered 5 extra 3D glasses plus $300 off on 65" ZT.
Edited by Lost! - 6/16/13 at 2:18pm
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