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post #1831 of 3266
So it this the P65VT60 swan song via Amazon or would it be worth it to wait for Superbowl week for a final blowout when a bunch of units will go on sale?
post #1832 of 3266
I say wait.

carrying inventory costs money and the unknown is who's sitting on how much
It's a roll of the dice but I think we'll be finding out shortly!

face it, P getting out or not means nothing to those on the business end.
These are basically (soon to be) year old electronics
with CES coming up and the masses sucking down LCD's like cheap warm draft
Those who really needed one have already scored.
This leaves an ever dwindling pool of potential (and savvy) buyers for what's left.

I say wait
post #1833 of 3266
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My white glove experience was:

Ordered my 65VT60 from Amazon on the 10 of Dec. and scheduled for a delivery date of Dec. 18th between 10AM and 1PM.   Delivery driver calls at 2:30PM to say he was 5 mins. out.  15 minutes later a CEVA van double parks in front of the building and I watch the driver (by himself for the entire delivery) get out and pull the set out the van and into the street, stand the box on it's side while he pulls the hand-truck out, the box swaying in the wind the entire time but never falls over.  He brings the box in the building (still not sure how he was able to open the door to the building and bring the box in alone) and I wait for him in the hallway.  He brings the box in through my small doorway and I had to help him the entire time.  He actually was cool with helping me move my 47" Olevia 747i (120 - 137 lbs.) LCD that the new set would replace.  He mentioned that he delivered and set up 5 identical TV's in the past week so he knew exactly how to put the stand together but he couldn't lift the set himself.  So together we assembled the TV onto the stand and I inspect it with a fine tooth comb and a flashlight for about 10 minutes or so.  After everything checks out physically, we lift it onto my TV stand and I plug it up (into power and an HDMI source) to make sure it powers on, check for hours used and check for dead/stuck pixels.  He even attempted to do the main menu setup but I told him just to bypass everything and I would go through the details later.  I also checked to make sure the antenna input worked along with the other 2 HDMI inputs.  Gave him a tip, cut all identifying labels with my name and address from the outside of the box and he took the box and packaging with him.

As of right now, I'm on 315 hours, the planets are back in alignment and everything in the world is back to normal. 

I know, it's a little dramatic.  tongue.gif

How do you check the hours used and for dead/stuck pixels?

On the remote control press (in this order):

 

1. MENU

2. Scroll to and press HELP

3. Scroll to and press VERSION

4. You should read the line that says STATUS4 - it will have a letter followed by 4 zeros (if your TV has never been used before) example:  Status4            C0000-00000

 

If it has been used before, it will say something like C0001-00000 (which means it has been used for at least an hour).

 

I bought my set from Amazon in the condition they call USED - LIKE NEW in pristine condition but because of Amazons policies, it couldn't be sold as NEW - which is one of the reasons I was so anal with it's condition on arrival.

 

To check for dead/stuck pixels - run a full screen solid color image and look for any pixels that aren't the same color.  It takes a while if you are painstakingly investigating.

post #1834 of 3266
Thanks
post #1835 of 3266
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My white glove experience was:

Ordered my 65VT60 from Amazon on the 10 of Dec. and scheduled for a delivery date of Dec. 18th between 10AM and 1PM.   Delivery driver calls at 2:30PM to say he was 5 mins. out.  15 minutes later a CEVA van double parks in front of the building and I watch the driver (by himself for the entire delivery) get out and pull the set out the van and into the street, stand the box on it's side while he pulls the hand-truck out, the box swaying in the wind the entire time but never falls over.  He brings the box in the building (still not sure how he was able to open the door to the building and bring the box in alone) and I wait for him in the hallway.  He brings the box in through my small doorway and I had to help him the entire time.  He actually was cool with helping me move my 47" Olevia 747i (120 - 137 lbs.) LCD that the new set would replace.  He mentioned that he delivered and set up 5 identical TV's in the past week so he knew exactly how to put the stand together but he couldn't lift the set himself.  So together we assembled the TV onto the stand and I inspect it with a fine tooth comb and a flashlight for about 10 minutes or so.  After everything checks out physically, we lift it onto my TV stand and I plug it up (into power and an HDMI source) to make sure it powers on, check for hours used and check for dead/stuck pixels.  He even attempted to do the main menu setup but I told him just to bypass everything and I would go through the details later.  I also checked to make sure the antenna input worked along with the other 2 HDMI inputs.  Gave him a tip, cut all identifying labels with my name and address from the outside of the box and he took the box and packaging with him.

As of right now, I'm on 315 hours, the planets are back in alignment and everything in the world is back to normal. 

I know, it's a little dramatic.  tongue.gif

How do you check the hours used and for dead/stuck pixels?

On the remote control press (in this order):

 

1. MENU

2. Scroll to and press HELP

3. Scroll to and press VERSION

4. You should read the line that says STATUS4 - it will have a letter followed by 4 zeros (if your TV has never been used before) example:  Status4            C0000-00000

 

If it has been used before, it will say something like C0001-00000 (which means it has been used for at least an hour).

 

I bought my set from Amazon in the condition they call USED - LIKE NEW in pristine condition but because of Amazons policies, it couldn't be sold as NEW - which is one of the reasons I was so anal with it's condition on arrival.

 

To check for dead/stuck pixels - run a full screen solid color image and look for any pixels that aren't the same color.  It takes a while if you are painstakingly investigating.

 

 

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Thanks


There is also another way by going into the service menu (it will tell you hours + minutes) but it requires more steps.  I haven't needed to go into the service menu yet so I didn't try it yet.  If you do a search in the Official Panasonic Vt60 Vt65 Series Discussion Thread [No Street Price Talk] you will more than likely find it there.

post #1836 of 3266
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Originally Posted by rippem View Post

I say wait.

carrying inventory costs money and the unknown is who's sitting on how much
It's a roll of the dice but I think we'll be finding out shortly!

face it, P getting out or not means nothing to those on the business end.
These are basically (soon to be) year old electronics
with CES coming up and the masses sucking down LCD's like cheap warm draft
Those who really needed one have already scored.
This leaves an ever dwindling pool of potential (and savvy) buyers for what's left.

I say wait

Amazon has a decent chunk of 65VT, but a lot of the other models are already near extinction. As those sell out and people shift into what's available, the sales velocity will pick up on the 65VT. These will be gone sooner than you think. Retailers definitely do put some extra weight on the fact that these are the last Pana plasma's. Regardless, they aren't really considered "old", and thus in need of steep discounting, until about March. By then, these will be long gone. Wait at your own peril...
post #1837 of 3266
60VT60 only has 2 left on Amazon now. There were 3 just 10 minutes ago.
post #1838 of 3266
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Originally Posted by marvin4653 View Post

I've been watching the quantity of the 55VT60 on Amazon for the past couple days, and it's fallen from around 170 to 86 in the last 48 hours. Looks like they're moving fast.
In the five hours since I posted this, Amazon's available quantity slipped to 79. If accurate, that's 7 sales in five hours on a Saturday night. At this rate, they'll be gone in three days.

I think it's looking increasingly unlikely that any of these sets will be around for long.
post #1839 of 3266
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Originally Posted by Speakerphile View Post

Amazon has a decent chunk of 65VT, but a lot of the other models are already near extinction. As those sell out and people shift into what's available, the sales velocity will pick up on the 65VT. These will be gone sooner than you think. Retailers definitely do put some extra weight on the fact that these are the last Pana plasma's. Regardless, they aren't really considered "old", and thus in need of steep discounting, until about March. By then, these will be long gone. Wait at your own peril...


"retailers" might but large volume internet and amazon doesn't so much

never said they were "old", and never said anything about "steep discounting" either

but I do believe stock will continue to "magically" show up for sale at our favorite internet houses (replenish) moreso the VT's and smaller ZT's
and IF there are any left toward the end of the month, I think unprecedented low pricing will be seen in an effort to wrap it up and move on to the '14 products that the MASSES will want and hook as many up as possible early in the year for more margin

now let me say I take this laid back and somewhat optimistic view in light of having three 3 yo or less plasmas in the house that I am quite happy with and a fourth isn't a requirement
but if they hit a certian price point, well... I may just have to make arrangements lol
Edited by rippem - 1/4/14 at 11:09pm
post #1840 of 3266
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Originally Posted by hazel_wu View Post

60VT60 only has 2 left on Amazon now. There were 3 just 10 minutes ago.

All gone now!
post #1841 of 3266
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All gone now!

sold the last 3 in 69 minutes at 11p to 2a depending on what coast, and on a Sat night?

I just don't buy it, pun intended
post #1842 of 3266

Best seller status...

Panasonic TC-P60VT60 60-Inch 1080p 600Hz 3D Smart Plasma HDTV (Includes 2 Pairs of 3D Active Glasses and Built-in... by Panasonic

 

It looks as if it's sold through Paul's TV now.

 

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Edited by thebesthereis - 1/4/14 at 11:47pm
post #1843 of 3266
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Originally Posted by rippem View Post

"retailers" might but large volume internet and amazon doesn't so much

never said they were "old", and never said anything about "steep discounting" either

but I do believe stock will continue to "magically" show up for sale at our favorite internet houses (replenish) moreso the VT's and smaller ZT's
and IF there are any left toward the end of the month, I think unprecedented low pricing will be seen in an effort to wrap it up and move on to the '14 products that the MASSES will want and hook as many up as possible early in the year for more margin

now let me say I take this laid back and somewhat optimistic view in light of having three 3 yo or less plasmas in the house that I am quite happy with and a fourth isn't a requirement
but if they hit a certian price point, well... I may just have to make arrangements lol

You did imply that they were getting old as one one the reasons that waiting will likely produce better prices. Steep discounting was my wording, but given how much they have been discounted, any more would be considered steep. As supplies get VERY low towards the end of the month you may see a few deals, but they will not be widely available and will be VERY time sensitive. Basically, you'll have to be very "right time, right place" to get them. Panasonic is completely out. Distributors are out, or very close. You will not see any replenishing going on.
post #1844 of 3266
I wonder how much inventory is on hand at B&M stores? People may have to upgrade to the ZT60.
post #1845 of 3266
Does anyone here have a Panasonic EPP account that's working? Before I log in the price for the 55VT60 shows up as $1595.99, but after I log in it goes up to list at $2199.99!

I've had the craziest last few days... My wife originally balked at the thought of spending upwards of $2000 on a TV, but after going through progressively more expensive LCD TVs (*) she finally changed her mind! Anyway, I missed matching brandsmart at Amazon, but was able to get a 60VT60 locally for roughly the recent online prices and it is amazingly awesome. The wife still thinks that it's a little big though. Our TV stand was built with a 55" TV in mind and the 60" VT sort-of just barely fits (it's about 0.5 inch bigger than the opening on the top and sides with the stand), so I've been looking around for a 55"..especially since where I generally sit (~3 feet away off to one side) I can generally see plasma dithering and maybe it wouldn't be so apparent at that distance? Then again with the 60" selling out everywhere and it being the last time I'd be able to get one maybe I can just sit a little farther back and convince her that it looks fine on the stand. =)


Steve

* First a 60" Sharp 650U, which was very cheap, but looked `muddy' and washed out no matter what I did. Then a 60" Sony 550a, which generally looked better, but had the worst nonuniform backlight I've ever seen and a nasty looking orangy looking red. At that point better LCDs got into the price range of the Panasonics and the fact that the VT series and above have a glass front like the Sony NX720 we've already got and love sealed the deal.
post #1846 of 3266
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Originally Posted by snclawson View Post

Does anyone here have a Panasonic EPP account that's working? Before I log in the price for the 55VT60 shows up as $1595.99, but after I log in it goes up to list at $2199.99!

I'm seeing the same thing for both the VT60 and the ZT60 which shows 3199 when not logged in but 4099 when logged in.
post #1847 of 3266
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Originally Posted by thebesthereis View Post

Have any of you that own VT60s ever registered your TVs online with Panasonic (for warranty purposes)?

I did and right after the registration, Panasonic offers you a 1 or 3 year extended warranty for like 8 bucks via Square Trade.

Unfortunately, "too good to be true". I got the same $8.99 (3 yr) and $10.99 (4 yr) ST offer after product registration @ Panasonic, so I called ST to find out if it was legit and provided the same coverage. They knew nothing about it, said the price was way too cheap, and advised calling Panasonic. I hung up, and tried to buy both regardless ($10 is dirt cheap), but the cart errors out after entering/submitting your cc information. You can't actually buy it.

I just bought the Costco ST warranty @ $99. Personally, I have better peace of mind going through Costco and ST, than Mack Camera and Adorama.
Edited by Blackcat2950 - 1/5/14 at 11:08am
post #1848 of 3266
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Originally Posted by thebesthereis View Post

Have any of you that own VT60s ever registered your TVs online with Panasonic (for warranty purposes)?

I did and right after the registration, Panasonic offers you a 1 or 3 year extended warranty for like 8 bucks via Square Trade.

Unfortunately, "too good to be true". I got the same $8.99 (3 yr) and $10.99 (4 yr) ST offer after product registration @ Panasonic, so I called ST to find out if it was legit and provided the same coverage. They knew nothing about it, said the price was way too cheap, and advised calling Panasonic. I hung up, and tried to buy both regardless ($10 is dirt cheap), but the cart errors out after entering/submitting your cc information. You can't actually buy it.

I just bought the Costco ST warranty @ $99. Personally, I have better peace of mind going through Costco and ST, than Mack Camera and Adorama.

Okay.  I've never bought a warranty for a TV before but thanks for verifying for us.  When I saw it I thought "man that's a steal" although I didn't jump on it myself - kind of figured it would always be there.

 

It's a tad bit askew for the manufacturer (Panasonic) to have this false info/pricing attached to their products/website.  What are they trying to accomplish by doing this?  :confused:

 

So, even though I don't have a CostCo card or did not purchase the TV from them either, would I be able to purchase the SquareTrade warranty?  I mean $99 bucks for 3 years isn't so bad for a piece of mind.

post #1849 of 3266
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Originally Posted by Blackcat2950 View Post

I just bought the Costco ST warranty @ $99. Personally, I have better peace of mind going through Costco and ST, than Mack Camera and Adorama.
I don't understand why...they're all here to make money.
post #1850 of 3266
On Costco's website it says that you must be a member and the tv must be bought from Costco.
post #1851 of 3266
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Originally Posted by rlb4 View Post

On Costco's website it says that you must be a member and the tv must be bought from Costco.


BlackCat2950 - did you buy your TV from CostCo?  If not, how did you pull it off?

post #1852 of 3266
I bought the TV from Amazon, and just bought the $99 warranty for 'TVs over $1000' by going to the Costco ST TV warranty page. They do have conflicting info.. one place says you have to be a Costco member and buy the TV from them. Another place says you can buy the TV from any authorized dealer. I'm not a member, but when checking out, you can just pay a $5 fee to buy the warranty - so $105.

http://www.costco.com/squaretrade-tv.html
Plan must be bought within 60 days of TV purchase. Costco Members may buy plans for new
TVs purchased from a Costco warehouse, Costco.com or any authorized U.S. retailer.

My purchase went through, no problem. I'm currently waiting on ST to send me the formal warranty doc and registration process. Will report back when I get it/done.
post #1853 of 3266
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Originally Posted by Blackcat2950 View Post

I bought the TV from Amazon, and just bought the $99 warranty for 'TVs over $1000' by going to the Costco ST TV warranty page. They do have conflicting info.. one place says you have to be a Costco member and buy the TV from them. Another place says you can buy the TV from any authorized dealer. I'm not a member, but when checking out, you can just pay a $5 fee to buy the warranty - so $105.

http://www.costco.com/squaretrade-tv.html
Plan must be bought within 60 days of TV purchase. Costco Members may buy plans for new
TVs purchased from a Costco warehouse, Costco.com or any authorized U.S. retailer.

My purchase went through, no problem. I'm currently waiting on ST to send me the formal warranty doc and registration process. Will report back when I get it/done.

Hmm. I see it now. The website has conflicting info. In one part is says that the tv must be bought from Costco and further down the page it says that it may also be bought from an authorized retailer. So is the Costco $99 ST warranty for 3 yrs(1st yr manufacturer and yrs 2&3 from ST) if tv is not bought from Costco? Amazon has the ST 3yr warranty for $118 so not much more.
post #1854 of 3266
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Originally Posted by Blackcat2950 View Post

I bought the TV from Amazon, and just bought the $99 warranty for 'TVs over $1000' by going to the Costco ST TV warranty page. They do have conflicting info.. one place says you have to be a Costco member and buy the TV from them. Another place says you can buy the TV from any authorized dealer. I'm not a member, but when checking out, you can just pay a $5 fee to buy the warranty - so $105.

http://www.costco.com/squaretrade-tv.html
Plan must be bought within 60 days of TV purchase. Costco Members may buy plans for new
TVs purchased from a Costco warehouse, Costco.com or any authorized U.S. retailer.

My purchase went through, no problem. I'm currently waiting on ST to send me the formal warranty doc and registration process. Will report back when I get it/done.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1506348/costco-squaretrade-extended-tv-warranty-now-costco-purchases-only/0_100#post_24145556
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1502510/info-about-square-trade-warranty/0_100#post_24012278
post #1855 of 3266

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post #1856 of 3266
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My purchase went through, no problem. I'm currently waiting on ST to send me the formal warranty doc and registration process. Will report back when I get it/done.

Update: Everything went through fine. The ST system let me specify Amazon, took the Amazon receipt, etc. I may call them tomorrow to confirm, but everything looks good. As an aside, they list the maximum coverage at $3,999.99, which if you know how ST works, that may be another benefit of going through Costco vs. direct.
post #1857 of 3266
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Originally Posted by Blackcat2950 View Post

Update: Everything went through fine. The ST system let me specify Amazon, took the Amazon receipt, etc. I may call them tomorrow to confirm, but everything looks good. As an aside, they list the maximum coverage at $3,999.99, which if you know how ST works, that may be another benefit of going through Costco vs. direct.

Where does it list that? I thought I read that coverage was for the amount paid?
post #1858 of 3266
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Originally Posted by cyberstven View Post

I thought I read that coverage was for the amount paid?

it is.
That's one of the primary reasons they require a receipt
I have more than one ST warranty
post #1859 of 3266
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Originally Posted by Speakerphile View Post

Amazon has a decent chunk of 65VT, but a lot of the other models are already near extinction. As those sell out and people shift into what's available, the sales velocity will pick up on the 65VT. These will be gone sooner than you think. Retailers definitely do put some extra weight on the fact that these are the last Pana plasma's. Regardless, they aren't really considered "old", and thus in need of steep discounting, until about March. By then, these will be long gone. Wait at your own peril...

that scenario didnt happen when Pioneer pulled the plug on their plasma TV..or when Sharp pulled the plug on the Elite LED

there was inventory around for a Loooong time...that just got lower and lower in price

I say wait until at least March for the rock bottom....after that it does become a coin toss


Warren
post #1860 of 3266
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Originally Posted by turnne1 View Post

that scenario didnt happen when Pioneer pulled the plug on their plasma TV..or when Sharp pulled the plug on the Elite LED

there was inventory around for a Loooong time...that just got lower and lower in price

I say wait until at least March for the rock bottom....after that it does become a coin toss


Warren

They also started out at MUCH higher prices, and the sales velocity for those TV's was MUCH lower. This is also almost the end of a technology as well. Certainly the end of the best current example of the technology, and priced within range of a decent number of customers on the market. Also, the Sharp Elite, as the most recent example, kind of fizzled out. There was no announcement that they were going away. Sharp still hasn't announced that they were discontinued. Regardless, the situation is much different with these. Inventory is running out even faster than I expected.
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