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post #211 of 393
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Originally Posted by AKA View Post

Right movie, wrong scene...


Exactly what I was thinking, hahahaha.

Also I can relate to the user who posted that they'd want to see a video review from an owner. It really isn't about seeing the picture, but it can be fun seeing someone's setup and hearing them verbally talk about the pros and cons of the TV. Just a little more personal than say, a short Amazon text review.
post #212 of 393

While it may look sort of cool I cannot believe it sounds good.  I'd guess the amps in the TV are only a couple watts to drive those little speakers.

 

As for your stereo setup, I'd caution you against running 4 speakers in parallel on 1 output channel.  At 8 ohms each that presents only 2 ohms to the amp channel which many amps will not like.

 

sorry, back on topic of TVs.  :-)

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Originally Posted by Craig-Paul View Post

Added External Speakers powered by the internal amps to a Panasonic TC-65PS64

Today I removed the back cover of the TV. There are two very small 8 ohm speakers for L and R channels. I removed the amplifier +/- leads at the speaker terminals. I made a number of custom extension cables. One pair is attached to the speaker leads. A second pair is attached to the amplifier +/- output leads. There are small stamped grill openings on the rear back cover above or to the side of the internal speakers.

I used Allen organ speaker wire. Each cable contains a red/black 16 gauge copper speaker wire inside an outer protective sheath. I ran my extensions to the internal speaker leads and the amplifier leads out through the small stamped holes in the back panel back.

I used a Niles Audio DSP-1 A/B switch box to make all my connections. The amp leads are connected to the common 4 inputs. I have the TV speakers connected to the A side. I have external speaker leads connected to the B side which are connected to my external speakers.

My external speakers are Allen Organ Speakers (model HC-18) with JBL 15” woofers (JBL-2235H Low Frequency Drivers). The 3-way speaker cabinets are 8 ohm.

When I compare the volume between the TV’s interior speakers vs. the external speakers, the external are much louder. Since the internal speakers were 8 ohm and my speaker cabinets are rated at 8 ohms, the amp is happy. I am able to depress the A/B selector switch on the Niles unit to toggle between the internal and external speakers. It is remarkable. When I get the system hooked up to the stereo I’ll be able to disconnect the internal speaker leads from the Niles unit, so that the TV speakers don’t play with the stereo system. And, when I want only my external Allen speakers to play alone with the TV’s amps, I have that option too.

I wanted to be able to use these external speakers to run with the TV’s amps and not have to run the TV through my power hungry stereo system. Most of my low-level listening can now use the TV amps and my external speakers. It works flawlessly.

I know you can purchase sound bars. But, I already owned the DSP-1 unit and have several of these Allen Organ Speakers.

Below is a picture of the set up. Two Allen speaker cabinets are dedicated to the TV and its amplifiers. They sit atop each array of 4-grouped speaker columns on the right and left. I use a 23-yr old McIntosh MC2500 to power the stereo’s main front L and R channels. Since I had several extra cabinets, I just put 4 combined in parallel for each of the L and R channels.

The rest of the speakers in the photo are used for a digital Allen Organ (several more speakers are located to the left of the photo to power the organ's 15 channels.)

It's nice to have the external speakers working with the TV amps. Also, I know its odd to see a set-up like this. But, since I own the equipment, I'd rather use the components instead of storing the extras in a spare bedroom.



- - - - - -

On a second note: I received the TV a week ago. I ran D-nice’s slides for the first 100 hours. I calibrated the Cinema mode with Fairchild’s settings. I also calibrated the Custom mode with C-net’s settings. I tend to like C-nets slightly better.

The only time I have had the TV off is to install the speaker set-up mentioned above. At night I run D-nice’s slides and then resume the TV programing while working at my office desk during the day.
post #213 of 393
Note: off topic from this thread (I apologize in advance) . . .

Primetimeguy,

Your caution has great merit. You are absolutely correct with your comment, "As for your stereo setup, I'd caution you against running 4 speakers in parallel on 1 output channel. At 8 ohms each that presents only 2 ohms to the amp channel which many amps will not like."

I too am cognizant of that fact. The McIntosh MC2500 amplifier that I use accommodates output loads of 8, 4, 2 or 1 ohms . I use 30+ year old Monster Cable Powerline for my cable runs. Here's a snap shot of the back panel from the owner's manual. The four speakers I referenced are combined in parallel and are connected correctly to the amplifier's 2 ohm output.

LEAD Technologies Inc. V1.01

LEAD Technologies Inc. V1.01

On another note and back to "on topic" of this thread - using the TV's amps on external speakers:

I was surprised when I used the small 10 watt self-contained TV amplifiers to run the Allen Organ HC-18 external speakers. I'd invite you over in a heartbeat to hear for yourself. The A/B comparison from internal to external speakers (without touching the volume control) is quite telling. There's no need to turn up the volume on the TV's amps to accommodate the external speakers. In fact, I slightly reduce the TV's volume number in this configuration.

There isn't a need to escalate the volume to movie theater proportions. That was not the intent of this exercise. I would be the first to admit that the quality of the TV's amps are designed for the little built-in speakers, and that the amp's performance characteristics, distortion and frequency range should not even be compared to the McIntosh MC2500 (let's be serious). The TV amps do a nifty job though in this set-up. I had to turn down considerably the treble gain setting for the front facing, high quality external speakers.

If I desire a realistic theater-earth-shaking sonic experience, well . . . that's when I engage the McIntosh MC2500 to power the 8 Allen Organ speakers.

We all have different equipment, speakers etc. to suit our needs and tastes. For me, these speakers were my first choice for the Allen Digital Organ which would often be temporarily installed in a larger than home venue, i.e. concert hall or large church. The speakers were purchased for those large installation requirements. At home, many of the speakers are not needed or employed, so I use them for my second and third purposes: my stereo system and the TV.

- - - -

Primetimeguy,

Again, many thanks for your remarks above. Hopefully this dialog may help inform others of the importance to match amplifier ohm output to the speaker's impedance load. Thanks, Craig-Paul.
Edited by Craig-Paul - 8/2/13 at 10:59pm
post #214 of 393
The following is a continuation from this thread's post #182:

July 29, 2013 Costco Inventory Update for the TC-65PS64, still $1299 with free shipping. Available units: 168
EDIT: Now 163/ 160/ 157/ 152/ 148/ 137
EDIT: July 30: Now 132/ 126/ 121/ 114/ 111/ 106
EDIT: July 31: Now 103/ 99/ 90/ 88/ 84
EDIT: August 1: Now 83/ 78/ 75/ 73/ 71/ up to 80 now/ 77
EDIT: August 2: Now 74/ 69/ up to 71 now/ 69/ 70
EDIT: August 3: Now 66/ 63/ 56/ 52
EDIT: August 4: Now 48/ 46/ 43/ 40/ 38/ 34/ 31/ 26

EDIT: August 5: Now 25/ 14
Edited by Craig-Paul - 8/5/13 at 5:09pm
post #215 of 393
The Panasonic TC-50PS64 at Costco, Item # 850640 was $629.99 yesterday when I was at the warehouse store. I just called Costco in Silicon Valley, CA. and the price is reduced to $599.99, the same as on-line pricing (without the $99 shipping of course).

Price history at Costco: began at $729.99, reduced to $699.99, then $629.99 and now $599.99.

BTW, you will know when the price is at clearance final low pricing - the last two digits will be .97
Edited by Craig-Paul - 8/4/13 at 11:13pm
post #216 of 393
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Originally Posted by Daekwan View Post



In Costco in Crystal City, Va right now. And guess what I see. smile.gif

Only question now is should I get one or two?

This morning, they had 3 at Crystal City, with none in Fairfax or Sterling.

I went at 5pm and saw that they had two.

After I took one, it looks like that they only have one left. smile.gif
post #217 of 393
Which do you guys think is the better value?:

TC-65PS64 at $1,299 from Costco or TC-60ST60 at $1,499 at Best Buy? I would pay sales tax either way. The size difference aside, is the ST worth $200 more?

On a side note, I signed up for the Chase Sapphire Preferred credit card last week and under their current promotion you get 40,000 reward points if you spend $3K within the first 3 months. That equates to $400 in cash back or $500 in Travel rewards. Pretty sweet deal if you plan on making some major purchases around the same time.
post #218 of 393
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Originally Posted by IA_Hi_Fi_Guy View Post

Which do you guys think is the better value?:

TC-65PS64 at $1,299 from Costco or TC-60ST60 at $1,499 at Best Buy? I would pay sales tax either way. The size difference aside, is the ST worth $200 more?

On a side note, I signed up for the Chase Sapphire Preferred credit card last week and under their current promotion you get 40,000 reward points if you spend $3K within the first 3 months. That equates to $400 in cash back or $500 in Travel rewards. Pretty sweet deal if you plan on making some major purchases around the same time.

If the sizes were the same (both 65") then i would pay the $200 more for the ST. But that is not the case in the real world. So i opted for the 65PS64 from Costco. Larger and cheaper smile.gif

I still havent heard from Costco or the delivery company yet about a delivery time. I placed my order on 7/31. Hopefully soon.
post #219 of 393
soulcougher73:

I received a phone call 5 days after placing my Costco order for the 65" and it was delivered the next day. There was no other email notification about delivery etc. after the original order. I only received the phone call and scheduled the TV's delivery. It arrived 6 days after the on-line order.

By the way I asked the delivery guys if they had been delivering many of these in the CA Bay Area? They said yes, almost one to three every day.
post #220 of 393
Craig-Paul:

Where do you see the inventory levels at?
post #221 of 393
Hey realralfy:

Simple,

Go to the Costco on-line website for the TC-65PS64.

http://www.costco.com/Panasonic-65%22-1080p-Plasma-TV-TC-65PS64.product.100043008.html?catalogId=10701&categoryId=30771&identifier=plasma-tvs&langId=-1&storeId=10301

In the quantity box, TYPE a large number (i.e. 777)

Hit ADD TO CART

If the number EXCEEDS the on-line inventory, a RED MESSAGE appears at the top of the screen to indicate the current inventory level.

I've been doing this for days and trying to update folks so they'll get their unit before inventories dry up. I'm really enjoying my 65" Panasonic PS64.

Note: I don't work for Costco. I just shop for almost everything there since the store is just a couple of blocks from home.

******

I just did this with the Sams Club website. There it is a bit different. You have to enter a quantity then proceed to the next checkout point with the GREEN button. I update the quantity until the RED notice at the top DISAPPEARS. At that point I know how many units are left in inventory.
post #222 of 393
Craig-Paul:

I appreciate that, thank you for sharing, have you noticed when they run out of stock that more appear?.....I am on the verge of getting something bigger than my 54" Panny.....

I can easily hold an 80", and would really love that big screen, but the PQ is so terrible on those 80" LED-LCD's that I can't imagine having to look at it every day.....I think I have decided on a 65" Panny and I'm trying to decide between the 65" PS64 for $1300 plus tax at Costco ($1420 total in my location) or the 65" ST60 for $1999 total off the web.....

I'm not a gamer
I have many windows in the room although glare isn't an issue on my current set
I don't give a damn about 3D
I switch everything through my AV Receiver so # of inputs and sound quality aren't an issue
I am a bit of a video snob and simply want something really nice but at the same time I love a smokin' deal.....what to do??
post #223 of 393
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Originally Posted by realralfy View Post

Craig-Paul:

I appreciate that, thank you for sharing, have you noticed when they run out of stock that more appear?.....I am on the verge of getting something bigger than my 54" Panny.....

I can easily hold an 80", and would really love that big screen, but the PQ is so terrible on those 80" LED-LCD's that I can't imagine having to look at it every day.....I think I have decided on a 65" Panny and I'm trying to decide between the 65" PS64 for $1300 plus tax at Costco ($1420 total in my location) or the 65" ST60 for $1999 total off the web.....

I'm not a gamer
I have many windows in the room although glare isn't an issue on my current set
I don't give a damn about 3D
I switch everything through my AV Receiver so # of inputs and sound quality aren't an issue
I am a bit of a video snob and simply want something really nice but at the same time I love a smokin' deal.....what to do??

Buy the PS64 from Costco. I was in a similar position and went with the PS64 and couldn't be happier. The picture is simply stunning.
post #224 of 393
I saw this set at Sam's over the weekend. Even with the anti-glare coating, it appeared to have more reflections than the LED TVs that sat next to it.

Couldn't really judge the PQ, because it looked darker compared to the LEDs, but I trust the reviews here that it will be better than the LEDs on viewing angles and deep blacks.

We have windows on one side wall, a kitchen with skylight on the other side; no windows on the back wall though. So, I'm a bit concerned about glare/reflections etc. when viewing from the side (i.e. not directly across from the TV).

I'm planning to upgrade from a smaller 32-inch Vizio LCD, which is not reflective and am trying to compare the Panny to the 65-inch Vizio E650i-A2 back-lit LED TV I saw at Walmart.

Unfortunately, I haven't been able to do a side-by-side comparison of the two because they were in different stores. On it's own, the E650i-A2 looks quite good, but I'm sure it can't match the PQ of the Plasma.

Can I get some opinions on how reflective the TC-65PS64 is (ON and OFF). I'm trying to justify buying this set over the Vizio, since both cost about the same ($1249-$1299).

Thanks!
post #225 of 393
The following is a continuation from this thread's post #214:

July 29, 2013 Costco Inventory Update for the TC-65PS64, still $1299 with free shipping. Available units: 168
EDIT: Now 163/ 160/ 157/ 152/ 148/ 137
EDIT: July 30: Now 132/ 126/ 121/ 114/ 111/ 106
EDIT: July 31: Now 103/ 99/ 90/ 88/ 84
EDIT: August 1: Now 83/ 78/ 75/ 73/ 71/ up to 80 now/ 77
EDIT: August 2: Now 74/ 69/ up to 71 now/ 69/ 70
EDIT: August 3: Now 66/ 63/ 56/ 52
EDIT: August 4: Now 48/ 46/ 43/ 40/ 38/ 34/ 31/ 26
EDIT: August 5: Now 25/ 14/ 13/ 11/ 9/ 6/ 4/ 3
EDIT: August 6: Now 2/ Now 0 @ 7:16 a.m. P.S.T.

EDIT: August 6: Now only 10 @ 9:49 a.m. P.S.T.

NOTE: When compared to recent sales trends this 65" TV will be sold-out in less than 24 hours (currently 13 left). The TV has sold out twice before at Costco on-line only to have hundreds added to the inventory 2 or 3 days later. Hopefully, there will be more. We shall see . . .

Price History for the 65" has gone from $1399.99 in-store to $1299.99 in-store (or on-line with free shipping)
Price History for the 50" has gone from $729.00 in-store to the current $599.99 in-store

Edited by Craig-Paul - 8/6/13 at 9:51am
post #226 of 393
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Originally Posted by vizbar View Post

I saw this set at Sam's over the weekend. Even with the anti-glare coating, it appeared to have more reflections than the LED TVs that sat next to it.

Couldn't really judge the PQ, because it looked darker compared to the LEDs, but I trust the reviews here that it will be better than the LEDs on viewing angles and deep blacks.

We have windows on one side wall, a kitchen with skylight on the other side; no windows on the back wall though. So, I'm a bit concerned about glare/reflections etc. when viewing from the side (i.e. not directly across from the TV).

I'm planning to upgrade from a smaller 32-inch Vizio LCD, which is not reflective and am trying to compare the Panny to the 65-inch Vizio E650i-A2 back-lit LED TV I saw at Walmart.

Unfortunately, I haven't been able to do a side-by-side comparison of the two because they were in different stores. On it's own, the E650i-A2 looks quite good, but I'm sure it can't match the PQ of the Plasma.

Can I get some opinions on how reflective the TC-65PS64 is (ON and OFF). I'm trying to justify buying this set over the Vizio, since both cost about the same ($1249-$1299).!

I could see the superior PQ of the 65S64 next to a 70" Sony LED at my local Sam's. In the Sam's demo loop when it pans across a plant, the overblooming LED washed out the details of the plant while the plasma still showed the details of the distinctions between the vertical leaves/stems.

I replaced a 34" Sony XBR CRT with the 65S64 and while the afternoon sun from west facing windows would wash out my CRT, because the 65S64 is so huge, the same window reflection only affects a percentage (< 40%) of the TV rather than the entire display and my 3 windows are some 70 inches wide and nearly floor to ceiling with one above the other up to the upper floor vaulted ceiling. This display is also bright enough that it manages to punch through the sunlight glare better than a CRT. The reflections are only noticeable if you are viewing directly opposite from the light source (for example, I have a lamp to the right of my sofa, but it is only visible when on if I am sitting to the left of my sofa the same distance away - think pool table and where the light source would bounce off the screen - you have to be directly in the line where it would ricochet). I also have dining and kitchen windows facing the TV, but they are more than about 13 feet from the TV directly behind me and I don't see their reflection probably because they are not opposite rather than the distance.
post #227 of 393
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Originally Posted by HDTimeShifter View Post

I could see the superior PQ of the 65S64 next to a 70" Sony LED at my local Sam's. In the Sam's demo loop when it pans across a plant, the overblooming LED washed out the details of the plant while the plasma still showed the details of the distinctions between the vertical leaves/stems.

I replaced a 34" Sony XBR CRT with the 65S64 and while the afternoon sun from west facing windows would wash out my CRT, because the 65S64 is so huge, the same window reflection only affects a percentage (< 40%) of the TV rather than the entire display and my 3 windows are some 70 inches wide and nearly floor to ceiling with one above the other up to the upper floor vaulted ceiling. This display is also bright enough that it manages to punch through the sunlight glare better than a CRT. The reflections are only noticeable if you are viewing directly opposite from the light source (for example, I have a lamp to the right of my sofa, but it is only visible when on if I am sitting to the left of my sofa the same distance away - think pool table and where the light source would bounce off the screen - you have to be directly in the line where it would ricochet). I also have dining and kitchen windows facing the TV, but they are more than about 13 feet from the TV directly behind me and I don't see their reflection probably because they are not opposite rather than the distance.

Thanks for the reply. How is the reflection on the TV when its off. Is it dull/matte like an LCD or is it like a glossy mirror?
post #228 of 393
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Originally Posted by Craig-Paul View Post

EDIT: August 6: Now 2

Only 1 left now, after my order. Your high pressure tactics got to me. Are you sure you don't work for Costco? wink.gif

Seriously, though, I've been lurking for a couple of weeks, and this has been a really tough call. First of all, I really started out looking at 60" not 65", so the price difference between the 50" ($599) and the 65" has been frustrating, as I wish there was something in the middle. Second, I was leaning towards the ST60 over the S60 or S64. I don't really care about 3D, so the only real reason for that preference is the superior panel. The problem is that I'm already stretching my budget to get this 65S64, and it's hard to justify spending >$200 more for a smaller screen. The ST60s are just selling so hot, though, and 60" is probably the best selling size, that I just can't imagine it's going to come down in price any time in the next 6 months. The fact that the S64 has the Infinite Black screen, and the price, eventually got me to pull the trigger, as I was afraid I would miss out and either be stuck with an S60, or waiting for a while on an ST60.

Just a bit of background, I'm replacing a 2007 56" JVC RPTV. I was pretty happy with that size. Viewing distance is about 11 ft. With the plasma sitting probably about 1 ft. further back on the stand, I thought 60" would be about perfect. I think I'll be happy with th 65", though.
post #229 of 393
JJMiller - You crack - a - me - up. Nope! I don't work for Costco. My reason for posting inventory levels is that I'm a stickler for information on something I'm interested in. I like to share information and I really like Costco. It's just a 3 minute drive through a residential district to get there. My personal preference is to always buy at Costco rather than somewhere else even if the price is a percentage or two higher, because if something fails, or I want to return it then Costco's return policy becomes PRICELESS. I save all my receipts!

There's been no sales pressure from me. I've also thought about listing the Sam's Club inventory levels too side by side to Costco's. But, frankly in the South Bay Area of California, there isn't a Sam's - I don't want to travel 60 miles to get to one when a Costco is less than 1.5 miles from home -- so I'm frankly not interested in Sam's.

Have I convinced you yet that I don't work for Costco?

Now, I hope you all enjoy the TC-65PS64. I really like mine. I'm thinking about the 50" for another room. I looked at it three days ago at Costco, and am glad the price came down to $599. (sort of wish it was 55" though). Why only two sizes: 50 and 65? I'm guessing - - it's because Pany's market-teers probably wanted you to step it up and fork out the bucks for the more expansive panels to get an intermediate size.

FYI: Sam's Club on-line inventory is at 23 units. I've been watching that site too, and its inventory is SLOOOOOWLY moving in comparison to Costco on-line.
Edited by Craig-Paul - 8/6/13 at 7:04am
post #230 of 393
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Originally Posted by Craig-Paul View Post

Have I convinced you yet that I don't work for Costco?

Craig-Paul, did you see the emoticon wink.gif meaning that I was joking?

Actually, your posts were helpful. Seeing the inventory decrease fairly steadily helped me focus my thoughts and realize I'd be disappointed if this deal went away and didn't come back.
post #231 of 393
I wasn't able to pull the trigger either before the inventory was depleted. Hopefully there will be more soon.....
post #232 of 393
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Originally Posted by realralfy View Post

I wasn't able to pull the trigger either before the inventory was depleted. Hopefully there will be more soon.....

There are 9 available as of right now.
post #233 of 393
Costco Update, August 6 for the TC-65PS64 at $1,299.99 with free shipping:

Only 10 more TVs were added today to Costco on-line after the inventory dropped to zero. I wonder if the inventory is getting close to depletion from their suppliers? At any rate, pick yours up today, you won't be sorry.

Inventory update: 8 remaining as of 10:34am P.S.T. Now 6/ now 3 as of 2:23pm P.S.T. /Now 2 as of 2:36pm

Costco: Inventory is ZERO - OUT OF STOCK/3:20pm P.S.T.
Edited by Craig-Paul - 8/6/13 at 3:26pm
post #234 of 393
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Originally Posted by vizbar View Post

Thanks for the reply. How is the reflection on the TV when its off. Is it dull/matte like an LCD or is it like a glossy mirror?

I don't really look closely at the TV when it's off, and haven't noticed reflections then, so I'd say it is more of a matte color - maybe that's the difference between this and the S60? I've never seen an S60, so don't know about the mirror look that everyone talks about. It is somewhat of a black monolith in my all white room (with no wall coverings and white mini-blinds) but doesn't bother me as I have a great (combined living/dining/kitchen) room with vaulted ceilings so it doesn't dominate the room at all. I took some photos of it when I first got it, but now that you mention it, will try and take some with it off as well. Some day I may actually post them here.

Regarding why Panasonic only makes 2 models for the club stores, I think it's because of the bulk sale concept of massive production of fewer models to be able to price them cheaper. Also bigger is better for bulk, so 65" is the largest, and 50" is probably the most popular TV size. I don't understand their wild inventory swings and being able to restock in only a day to their main warehouses - they've got to project demand and resupply much farther out than that and I don't think there is any worry of these TVs selling out without possibility of restocking. With them selling like hotcakes, they are probably asking Panasonic to manufacture as many as possible to be able to have inventory at least until the next model year production schedule comes into view on the horizon.
post #235 of 393
Well, there is 1 less now....I just pulled the trigger on it!.....
post #236 of 393
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Originally Posted by stuartlee View Post

This morning, they had 3 at Crystal City, with none in Fairfax or Sterling.

I went at 5pm and saw that they had two.

After I took one, it looks like that they only have one left. smile.gif

I certainly hope there is one more left at Crystal City!!

Looks like Im taking mine back to Costco to exchange it. My 65" from CC Costco has developed a single horizontal line of stray pixels from the edge to edge. When i say stray, these pixels flip between red, blue & green and do not conform to the picture on the screen. Its like a rainbow colored line thats permanently on the screen, regardless of content or source. Disappointed I have to take it back for another one. But so glad I bought it from Costco where exchanges and refunds are no hassle.


I also purchased a 50" PS64 at the same time I purchased the 65". And the 50" has been working with no issues.

For those 50" PS64 owners, be advised Costco has dropped the price to $599. Which means you are due a $30 refund if you are within the 30day pricematch guarantee. Or due the a $30 difference if you are within the 90day return window guarantee. With the return, you simply need to state that you are "not satisfied" the price has dropped since you purchased it. And the customer service counter should be able to take your reciept, refund your $629. And you turn right back around purchase the same tv for $599. I do not believe you need to actually bring your set to the store to do this. Just simply bring in your reciept.
post #237 of 393
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Originally Posted by vizbar View Post

I saw this set at Sam's over the weekend. Even with the anti-glare coating, it appeared to have more reflections than the LED TVs that sat next to it.

Couldn't really judge the PQ, because it looked darker compared to the LEDs, but I trust the reviews here that it will be better than the LEDs on viewing angles and deep blacks.

We have windows on one side wall, a kitchen with skylight on the other side; no windows on the back wall though. So, I'm a bit concerned about glare/reflections etc. when viewing from the side (i.e. not directly across from the TV).

I'm planning to upgrade from a smaller 32-inch Vizio LCD, which is not reflective and am trying to compare the Panny to the 65-inch Vizio E650i-A2 back-lit LED TV I saw at Walmart.

Unfortunately, I haven't been able to do a side-by-side comparison of the two because they were in different stores. On it's own, the E650i-A2 looks quite good, but I'm sure it can't match the PQ of the Plasma.

Can I get some opinions on how reflective the TC-65PS64 is (ON and OFF). I'm trying to justify buying this set over the Vizio, since both cost about the same ($1249-$1299).

Thanks!

These are pictures with the temporary paper shades down in my home. Excuse the mess, I'm still moving in.

The first two pics (bedroom) show the 50PS64. The last two pics (living room) show the 65PS64.

I plan to wall mount, which is why they are sitting on the floor for now.




post #238 of 393
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Originally Posted by HDTimeShifter View Post

I don't really look closely at the TV when it's off, and haven't noticed reflections then, so I'd say it is more of a matte color - maybe that's the difference between this and the S60? I've never seen an S60, so don't know about the mirror look that everyone talks about. It is somewhat of a black monolith in my all white room (with no wall coverings and white mini-blinds) but doesn't bother me as I have a great (combined living/dining/kitchen) room with vaulted ceilings so it doesn't dominate the room at all. I took some photos of it when I first got it, but now that you mention it, will try and take some with it off as well. Some day I may actually post them here.

Thanks again for the reply. If I may ask something regarding the audio... Does this TV have good sound, or is it necessary to buy a sound-bar or sound system to get decent sound? Also is there any buzz coming from the set when it is off--I've heard some Plasmas having this issue.
post #239 of 393
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Originally Posted by vizbar View Post

Thanks again for the reply. If I may ask something regarding the audio... Does this TV have good sound, or is it necessary to buy a sound-bar or sound system to get decent sound? Also is there any buzz coming from the set when it is off--I've heard some Plasmas having this issue.

I've had the TV on and off 16-hours/day for 3 weeks. There is zero buzzing.

Sound is adequate. I thought about a soundbar, but didn't want to spend the money. Since I had tons of extra speakers and an A/B switching box, I made my own set-up for external speakers powered by the internal amps. See my posts here on this thread, #207 and 213.

EDIT: I think any decent soundbar would make a substantial improvement in sound. Only the VT model seems to get rave reviews for its built-in sound system.
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The Panasonic TC-65PS64 is once again OUT OF STOCK at Costco on-line as of 3:20pm P.S.T.

EDIT: August 6, 2013 - I just checked Sams Club on-line. They have 22 units in stock, at 5:38pm P.S.T.

EDIT: Just checked the Costco website on-line. There is 1 (one) 65" available. 7:21am P.S.T.

EDIT: August 7: 12:23pm - I checked Costco this morning after the 65" said SOLD OUT, and there was 1 (one) available. Then it SOLD OUT, and now there is 1 (one) again. Go figure? Now SOLD OUT again at 1:30pm

Sams Club is down to 17 left.
Edited by Craig-Paul - 8/7/13 at 1:34pm
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