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post #301 of 564
Thanks for replying. I have 5 b&w speakers and a Polk audio subwoofer.
I read some reviews saying the sony is very good with movies and music, others claim the sony 1800es is better.
Will the nr1604 be as good or do I need to move into the sr series?

I have some hearing loss, so I do not want to waste my money.

Regards
post #302 of 564
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Originally Posted by frocco View Post

Thanks for replying. I have 5 b&w speakers and a Polk audio subwoofer.
I read some reviews saying the sony is very good with movies and music, others claim the sony 1800es is better.
Will the nr1604 be as good or do I need to move into the sr series?

I have some hearing loss, so I do not want to waste my money.

Regards

All of the above will give nice performance for movies. The question really is about which one drives your speakers the best for music playback. Perhaps you might consider the Denon 2000 which is slightly more watts than the NR and similar in specs and better EQ set up.

You never did give any reference to your budget nor the size of the room your system will go in. This makes my subjective statements along with any other folks as being only partially useful.

The only reason I see to get the Marantz NR series is for the slim line chassis and that it can drive 8ohm speakers that are reasonably efficient at moderate to loud with ease. The Sony is a full size as is the Denon as is the Anthem as is.... well you get the picture.
post #303 of 564
Sorry about that, please bear with me.
My budget is around 650 US
Room size is 17x15 with carpet and wood ceiling.

The sony I can get for 500
Nr1604 or denon x2000 for 650

Regards
post #304 of 564
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Originally Posted by frocco View Post

Sorry about that, please bear with me.
My budget is around 650 US
Room size is 17x15 with carpet and wood ceiling.

The sony I can get for 500
Nr1604 or denon x2000 for 650

Regards

What I suggest is you go to a local store and listen to both playing the identical movie and also some music. Ideally you should bring music you are familiar with as well and preferably lossless and full range. If there is a Best Buy or similar in your area they might be able to assist. I could praise any maker/model but it should not be the determining factor for you as your system/set up is different than mine, your hearing is different than mine etc.

My present flat (I am moving) is larger as it is open completely but dimensions are very rectangular as opposed to squarish. My Marantz plays plenty loud. I think of the three in conversation - the Denon has the best EQ set up and the Sony and NR Marantz come in somewhat a second. In my case, the EQ has not been an issue at any level (figuratively and literally).

Last - I think the 150 dollars should not be a factor if you plan to keep the AVR for a while. Best to have no regrets if you find either the NR Marantz or Denon better sounding for your ears and home set up.
post #305 of 564
Ok, thanks for your help.
The nearest Best Buy is around 55 miles from me that carries the nr1604.
It is a Magnolia store.

I currently have an old Marantz, I think s8000, that does not have any homie and is too large for my new cabinet. I recently moved. I was told that Marantz has more of a warm sound.
post #306 of 564
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Originally Posted by frocco View Post

Ok, thanks for your help.
The nearest Best Buy is around 55 miles from me that carries the nr1604.
It is a Magnolia store.

I currently have an old Marantz, I think s8000, that does not have any homie and is too large for my new cabinet. I recently moved. I was told that Marantz has more of a warm sound.

If you have the patience - get the NR1604 from Best Buy/Magnolia. Try it out and if you like it, keep it. Since the size of the chassis is of concern then this would be your first best bet. If it does not perform as you like, you'll have to consider another AVR which is larger. Best Buy also carries the Denon line and probably has your Sony that you listed as well. The trade off of course is the tax if any as opposed to ordering on line elsewhere. Worse case you could get the Marantz from BB, like it, return it and order on line if the difference of the cost in tax is a concern. I don't like the latter approach as it is somewhat unfair to BB.
post #307 of 564
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Originally Posted by frocco View Post

Ok, thanks for your help.
The nearest Best Buy is around 55 miles from me that carries the nr1604.
It is a Magnolia store.

I currently have an old Marantz, I think s8000, that does not have any homie and is too large for my new cabinet. I recently moved. I was told that Marantz has more of a warm sound.

Hmmm ... wonder who could ship to you? rolleyes.gif
post #308 of 564
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Hmmm ... wonder who could ship to you? rolleyes.gif

Okay I'll say you made me have a good chortle with your comment. Have a great new year!

PS - if you ever get Anthem next year, let me know.
post #309 of 564
Not as yet ... Denon and Marantz are the most popular. smile.gif
post #310 of 564
Well I got my 1604 yesterday and set it up. Yay!

everything worked perfectly last night.

Go to sleep with dreams of rock'n out dancing in my head.

wake up this morning, go to turn it on and...Nothing. No power. No clicking. No pass through. Dead.

Other electronics on that circuit work fine. plugging it into another outlet doesn't do anything.

What the heck!?!?! Is my new receiver seriously a brick now?

Anyone have any thoughts/input on how I might bring her back to life?

cheers!
post #311 of 564
Try powering it on using the microprocessor reset procedure listed in your Owner's manual.
post #312 of 564

Hi,

 

I am very new to setting up AVR and Computer so perhaps I can get some advice.

I am connecting a Marantz NR1604 and HP Pavilion Elite (Windows 7) and Panasonic LCD TV.

The speaker connections are fine because the Marantz plays radio over the speakers. (7.1)

 

My first attempt connected computer video card HDMI to Aux 2 on Marantz and TV HDMI to monitor HDMI on Marantz.

This worked for both playing TV recorded on the computer showing on the TV and for sound through 7.1 speakers, however the computer monitor was always locked up when TV was turned on and would not be released to normal until the HDMI

on Aux 2 was unplugged.

 

I unplugged everything to move the setup to another room and reconnected everything the same way.

Now there is no sound at all but the video still shows as before.

 

Any ideas?

 

Thanks.


Edited by HUGH YVR - 1/3/14 at 10:54am
post #313 of 564
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Try powering it on using the microprocessor reset procedure listed in your Owner's manual.
You sir, are the king of kings! That worked like a charm. No idea why things got jacked in the first place, but the thing is working now. Thanks!
post #314 of 564
Hi all,

Happy New Year! I recently picked up 1604 and want to pick up KEF Q900 (floorstand) for 2.1 setup. Can 1604 provide enough juice for these speakers or should I settle with Q300 (bookshelf) and possibly T205? Thank you in advance.
post #315 of 564
KEF Q900

Amplifier requirements 15 - 200W
Sensitivity (2.83V/1m) 91dB
Maximum output (SPL) 114dB
Impedance 8Ω

The Marantz NR1604 can drive these speakers quite well. I would recommend not going beyond 85 on vol on the Marantz which for these speakers should be plenty loud. Enjoy!
post #316 of 564
^^
On any AVR it's generally not recommended to go above reference level (ie. 80/0db) to ensure there is sufficient headroom available. Best to simply set the Volume Limit setting to 80/0db and never have to worry about it again (although in some cases you may want to set that to 70/-10db or even 60/-20db if there are small kids in the house).
post #317 of 564
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Originally Posted by Aristo View Post

Hi all,

Happy New Year! I recently picked up 1604 and want to pick up KEF Q900 (floorstand) for 2.1 setup. Can 1604 provide enough juice for these speakers or should I settle with Q300 (bookshelf) and possibly T205? Thank you in advance.

Also keep in mind that should you desire more power, the 1604 has a set of FL/FR pre-outs that can be used with a more powerful external 2CH amp (eg. Emotiva XPA-2)
post #318 of 564
Hello,
Does anyone know if the nr1604 will be as sonic as my old sr8000?
post #319 of 564
Sonic? It uses Audyssey so it very likely will sound better except when used in DIRECT/PURE DIRECT modes.
post #320 of 564
Update on my new 1604 that was doing the power cycling. I did the published reset procedure. That seemed to work for an hour or so and then it started doing the power cycle again. Here's a video of it:

Defective Marantz 1604 Power Cycle Problem

Contacted Marantz and they had me do an "unpublished" reset of the receiver. I did that and it worked. But a couple hours later, same problem.

Contacted them again today and they are having me send it back to them for replacement. Bummer, but I should only be without my receiver until next week sometime when the new one shows up. Marantz customer service has been top notch.

Here's hoping the new one works better.
post #321 of 564
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Originally Posted by HUGH YVR View Post
 

Hi,

 

I am very new to setting up AVR and Computer so perhaps I can get some advice.

I am connecting a Marantz NR1604 and HP Pavilion Elite (Windows 7) and Panasonic LCD TV.

The speaker connections are fine because the Marantz plays radio over the speakers. (7.1)

 

My first attempt connected computer video card HDMI to Aux 2 on Marantz and TV HDMI to monitor HDMI on Marantz.

This worked for both playing TV recorded on the computer showing on the TV and for sound through 7.1 speakers, however the computer monitor was always locked up when TV was turned on and would not be released to normal until the HDMI

on Aux 2 was unplugged.

 

I unplugged everything to move the setup to another room and reconnected everything the same way.

Now there is no sound at all but the video still shows as before.

 

Any ideas?

 

Thanks.

 

 

I have revised this post and omitted the previous image.  The current question is as above.

post #322 of 564
I ordered a Marantz PM6004 several days ago because of the price cut -- I am having second thoughts and now considering the NR1604 or the NR1504.

Initially, I thought the PM6004 was a good choice because I am only interested in 2 channel audio (primarily AM/FM radio, CD's, Spotify and Pandora, and on rare occasions a movie), but the cost of a discrete tuner and DAC puts me at or beyond the price of a NR1604, making the NR1604 very appealing.

Can anyone comment on how the sound quality of the NR1604/1504 stacks up to the PM6004? I will be pairing it with a pair of Wharfdale 10.1 or 10.2's or possibly one of the KEF Q series bookshelf speakers. I have no interest in expanding to a multichannel setup in the future.

Thanks
post #323 of 564
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Originally Posted by HUGH YVR View Post


I have revised this post and omitted the previous image.  The current question is as above.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1465528/the-official-2013-denon-e-series-x-series-avr-model-owners-thread-faq/0_100#user_L12
post #324 of 564
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Originally Posted by htrieu View Post

I ordered a Marantz PM6004 several days ago because of the price cut -- I am having second thoughts and now considering the NR1604 or the NR1504.

Initially, I thought the PM6004 was a good choice because I am only interested in 2 channel audio (primarily AM/FM radio, CD's, Spotify and Pandora, and on rare occasions a movie), but the cost of a discrete tuner and DAC puts me at or beyond the price of a NR1604, making the NR1604 very appealing.

Can anyone comment on how the sound quality of the NR1604/1504 stacks up to the PM6004? I will be pairing it with a pair of Wharfdale 10.1 or 10.2's or possibly one of the KEF Q series bookshelf speakers. I have no interest in expanding to a multichannel setup in the future.

Thanks

Hard to say .. the PM6004 is better designed for low ohm/sensitivity speakers than is the 1604, but the 1604 include Audyssey MultEQ room correction.
post #325 of 564
Question regarding running Plex with NR1604
I am running Plex on my iMac. Works perfectly with the Roku 3 box in another room. When I try using it with the Marantz AVR I run into problems. Under "Network", the NR1604 sees the Plex server, and I can work through the Video menu and find the movies. When I select a movie, it shows the jpeg file for that movie, but I can't get it to play the movie. It just cycles through all the jpegs for all the movies in the directory. Is there a trick to getting the movies to actually play? I am tempted to just pay another $89 and get another Roku 3 for this system, since the interface is pretty slick, but figured I'd see if anyone had any hints before I gave up on the Marantz with Plex.
post #326 of 564
No receiver can play video files. You have to use a video player device, e.g. a blu-ray player, a Roku, or a direct HDMI connection from your HTPC to the receiver, with the PC displaying the video over its HDMI connection.
post #327 of 564
Thanks. I'll see if my Blu-Ray player can do it.
post #328 of 564

Hi,

 

Brand new owner of a Marantz NR-1604 and I have a problem.

I apologise for being pretty technologically illiterate.

 

I bought this receiver to replace an old Onkyo, which is both huge and runs VERY Hot.

It has been cutting out allot recently due to the heat, so having read the reviews, I plumped for the Marantz.

I have it set up with a 7.1 surround sound system of small Cambridge Audio speakers and a sub-woofer.

I set it up today using the Audyssey microphone setup (now on mch stereo).

 

I have the output (monitor/arc) connected to my Samsung UE46C8000 TV and I have a satellite box inputting via HDMI, a PS4 also inputting via HDMI and a PS3, also in via HDMI.

 

I have a 3TB HDD plugged into a USB slot on the TV and after faffing around, I got my TV to recognise the Onkyo was an Anynet+ device and I could then play movies, or music from my HDD via the USB (the Onkyo receiver would automatically switch to TV/CD and anynet+ would disengage) with the sound being output around all my speakers.


Tried this with the Marantz and on pressing TV audio, it did just that, ie gave me audio from the TV speakers rather than the surround system.

Have now also tried to get my TV to recognise the Marantz as an Anynet+ device, but it says none connected.

 

All I'm trying to do, is play things being input from my TV via USB to play sound through the 7.1 system.

Can someone point me in the right direction?

post #329 of 564

Ignore my post at 328.

I followed the link shown at post 146 and resolved this problem for myself.

 

I did read through the forum before posting, but I missed it amongst the 11 pages of (often quite technical) information.

 

Anyway, all's good and really please with my NR1604 so far.

 

Keith

post #330 of 564
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Originally Posted by roelofz View Post

Hi,

...
After that, off coarse connecting to my NAS, a Qnap with MP3, FLAC and even WMA, running either Plex media server or Twonky media server, both with a good reputation of serving DLNA.
Too my surprise the remote is not capable of fowarding songs in a album, or rewinding, fast forward also not possible (long press forward), neither on FLAC nor MP3, pausing also not possible. Gapless playback is also a challenge, my mp collection with gapless needs needs to be converted to FLAC, the only gapless supported format (really, in what year are we living, Marantz?).

All the important configurations need to be adjusted with the TV on (screen needed), also playing stuff from the network can theoraticly be played using the display on the receiver, but with one row at a time a lot of patience is required).

The remote app on IOS is also poorly fabricated. When playing album A and continuing B after a break of a few hours (powered off) the now playing screen shows the last song of album B. Also after a lot of searching found out where to tweak the sound while playing music, very difficult (still searching for the real sound tweaking, only available on the television (the web app is also poor on this part)...

So the receiver can play very well (if you are willing too tweak a lot, equaliser tweaking is not graphical, difficult to understand), the network part seems to be new to Marantz, and using an app interface has its own challenges for Marantz. All is tested with a Qnap 259 with an Intel Atom cpu (lots of resources free) with either plex Media Server or Twonky media Server. earlier I used Twonky in combination with a Noxon player, without any of the glitches above...

Hi roelofz,

I'm a recent owner of the NR-1504 and very happy with it, despite it being the bottom of the 2013 Marantz line up.

I've been playing around with an app called BubbleUPnP for Andrid. Not sure if there's an equivalent for it on iPhone/iPad, currently investigating an app called Bongiovi DPS which supports airplay. The BubleUNuP app allows me to stream music files from storage card on the phone across to NR-1504. I've been able to stream lossless FLAC files in 16-bit, 48 kHz up to 24-bit, 96kHz and the sound is music to my ears! I don't have any 24-bit. 192kHz files so can't test for those. The app allows you to create play lists on the fly, supports gap less playback so I find them to be useful. Stopped playing music after a few hours as I had to go to sleep and the wife was nagging me...smile.gif

I do have a NAS by WD (My Book Live 3TB edition) and can connect to it via the wireless network (the D-link router is set up as 802.11n on the 2.4 GHz band) and there is music folder storing songs under artist/album in FLAC format. Haven't tried to play from the NAS to the NR-1504 via the app, but if anyone is interested, I can report back.

I never had to turn on the TV to see what's going on or see what the NR-1504 is doing. A nice thing with one less device to be ON. Either relied on the front display or web interface. I find the web interface to be very useful.

Audyssey MultiEQ is simply awesome! Didn't know what I was missing out on until it was engaged and I'm having fun playing around with the settings to dial in the sound to just what I like for each input.
For instance, streaming songs via BubleUNuP is one input that's being tweaked for music.
Another input is for the CAB/SAT that's being tweaked for TV shows - those annoying loud commercials are now under better control with Dynamic Volume, heh, heh, heh!
Another input is the Blu-ray which is being tweaked just for movies which is mainly for the loss less HD audio formats.

I'm really enjoying tweaks and learning along the way. Currently learning about room measurements and REW is looking really interesting.

If you've got any questions on the NR-1504, let me know and I'll try to answer as best as I can.
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