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post #241 of 824
Are the people taking screenshots taking into account the fact that they are NOT in Rec.709 colorspace? I'm not sure what PC software, if any, can convert x.v.Color.

http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1368009902
post #242 of 824
Quote:
Originally Posted by Neo_Reloaded View Post

From a technical perspective, no - these are still 1080p Blu-rays, and any image quality gains due to increased bitrate will be minimal.

On a film-by-film basis, there is the opportunity for improvements. If the previous Blu-ray of the film was not from a 4K master, meaning the studio had to go back to the film elements and re-scan and create a new master using the current state-of-the-art in film mastering technology and techniques - then yes, there should definitely be an improvement (as seen by the new Ghostbusters Blu-ray). But this is because of the obvious reason that they created a better master before putting it on Blu-ray. If they had made such a high-quality master back in 2009, the original Blu-ray would be this good even though they weren't pushing 4K TV sets and 4K upscaling yet.

So if they had to make a new master (Ghostbusters, 2002 Spider-Man), yes it should definitely be noticeable. For films that already had 4K masters for their last Blu-ray release (2012 Amazing Spider-Man, Taxi Driver), I can't imagine you'd see much of a difference at all. Don't think of these as having anything to do with 4K TV sets (because they don't) - treat them like Blu-ray re-issues, some of which have had remasters.

The high bitrate makes a lot of difference in fast moving scenes. It's easily be seen for projector users and/or Darbee Darblet users.
post #243 of 824
I can't find any place in Canada selling these including Amazon.ca. What are you overseas people doing?

Even the ****ing Sony Stores here, aggghh.
Edited by msgohan - 5/14/13 at 2:39pm
post #244 of 824
Quote:
Originally Posted by msgohan View Post

I can't find any place in Canada selling these including Amazon.ca. What are you overseas people doing?

Even the ****ing Sony Stores here, aggghh.

I don't know where you are located, but I ordered mine through Bay Street Video in Toronto. They can get pretty much any DVD/Blu-Ray you want.
post #245 of 824
It's available at amazon.ca. Just search for "mastered in 4K" and all the titles will pop up.
post #246 of 824
I did and they are all "Currently unavailable".

Quote:
Originally Posted by David Susilo View Post

2. Their 4K TVS have "Mastered in 4K" upscaling option where the parameters change depending on the metadata thrown by the Mastered in 4K discs signal connected to the compatible TVS.

Did they actually use the words metadata? Given that you have to specifically enable the mode, it seems to me that the "Mastered in 4K" upscaler is instead just a static inversion of the kernel used to do the downscaling on these. Or whatever the proper mathematical terms are.

Some anime nerds on the internet invested a bunch of time to do the same thing in the reverse: taking an upscaled broadcast and downscaling it in a way that takes into account the upscaling algorithm rather just a dumb resize.
post #247 of 824
post #248 of 824
Fantastic! I'm surprised by how closely the color matches, though.
post #249 of 824
Quote:
Originally Posted by msgohan View Post

I did and they are all "Currently unavailable".
Did they actually use the words metadata? Given that you have to specifically enable the mode, it seems to me that the "Mastered in 4K" upscaler is instead just a static inversion of the kernel used to do the downscaling on these. Or whatever the proper mathematical terms are.

Some anime nerds on the internet invested a bunch of time to do the same thing in the reverse: taking an upscaled broadcast and downscaling it in a way that takes into account the upscaling algorithm rather just a dumb resize.

According to the Japanese Sony engineer at CES, it is "metadata" and not merely a "flag"
post #250 of 824
PS, you don't have to specifically enable the mode. Once DRC is set to "Auto", when the TV senses "Mi4K" signal, it'll switch the DRC to "Mi4K" mode.
post #251 of 824
Quote:

It looks like they took a veil off the image even if Spider-Man 1 was somewhat cheaply shot in the first place. A lot more detail. Perhaps they used the OCN's for these 4k transfers. Worth the dip if I can find the title cheaply.

Why can't they do these right the first time??????
post #252 of 824
Quote:
Originally Posted by David Susilo View Post

PS, you don't have to specifically enable the mode. Once DRC is set to "Auto", when the TV senses "Mi4K" signal, it'll switch the DRC to "Mi4K" mode.

Is it possible that the 4k mastered mode on these Sony UHD TV's just adds a bit of sharpening and highlight boosting like IMAX upconverts?
post #253 of 824
Those few caps look great, very nice improvement in high frequency detail and overall sharpness; thanks to the combination of a higher quality scan and increased bitrate.

On the second comparison the reds in Spider-man's suit are better controlled.

Shoot now I have to pick up another title in addition to Ghostbusters.

Come on Run Lola Run and Leon.

Best Regards
KvE
Edited by KMFDMvsEnya - 5/14/13 at 4:06pm
post #254 of 824
Okay, I'm convinced Spiderman is a keeper.

Has anybody seen any of the newer titles..Total recall or the Amazing Spiderman..to see if there is a notieable improvement?
post #255 of 824
See my multiple posts re: Total Recall on this thread. smile.gif
post #256 of 824
I bought battlefield la well just because I never watched it before .. Since its a newer release I'm not expecting much difference since its first release , guess ill rent it to compare .. Where is my 5th element : ) along with Leon as probaly the most double dipped movie of all time
post #257 of 824
I want Starship Trooper 3 and The Social Network iin "Mi4K" series!! biggrin.gif j/k
post #258 of 824
Quote:
Originally Posted by David Susilo View Post

I want Starship Trooper 3 and The Social Network iin "Mi4K" series!! biggrin.gif j/k

Yep..I would imagine Social Network would look superb! Especially with the new 7.1 Dolby Atmos mix. LOL
post #259 of 824
I'm waiting for the mastered in 4k madascar 3 , because the 1st transfer was terrible wink.gif
post #260 of 824
Just finished Spiderman. eek.gif

Definitely worth every penny.
post #261 of 824
Quote:

Clear improvement. You can make out the individual bricks and shingles in the background... and it looks like a very fine amount of edge enhancement has been removed. Also, Spider-Man's outfit looks more red than orange now. Very nice, indeed.

Between this and Ghostbusters, Sony has simply proven what we've known all along. Start with the highest quality source, give it maximum disc space, and don't **** it up with filtering.
post #262 of 824
Ghostbusters BDinfo scan:
Code:
                                                                                                                Total   Video                                             
Title                                                           Codec   Length  Movie Size      Disc Size       Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track                          Secondary Audio Track
-----                                                           ------  ------- --------------  --------------  ------- ------- ------------------                        ---------------------
00800.MPLS                                                      AVC     1:45:08 33,794,211,840  34,844,021,509  42.86   34.83   Dolby TrueHD 5.1 1504Kbps (48kHz/16-bit)  
Code:

DISC INFO:

Disc Title:     GHOSTBUSTERS
Disc Size:      34,844,021,509 bytes
Protection:     AACS
BD-Java:        Yes
BDInfo:         0.5.8

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00800.MPLS
Length:                 1:45:08.302 (h:m:s.ms)
Size:                   33,794,211,840 bytes
Total Bitrate:          42.86 Mbps

(*) Indicates included stream hidden by this playlist.

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
-----                   -------             -----------     
MPEG-4 AVC Video        34826 kbps          1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Dolby TrueHD Audio              English         1504 kbps       5.1 / 48 kHz / 1504 kbps / 16-bit (AC3 Embedded: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps / DN -4dB)
Dolby TrueHD Audio              French          1511 kbps       5.1 / 48 kHz / 1511 kbps / 16-bit (AC3 Embedded: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps / DN -4dB)

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           English         33.520 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           English         25.163 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Arabic          15.175 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Dutch           22.638 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           French          23.250 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Spanish         32.073 kbps                     
* Presentation Graphics         English         33.539 kbps                     

FILES:

Name            Time In         Length          Size            Total Bitrate   
----            -------         ------          ----            -------------   
00800.M2TS      0:00:00.000     1:45:08.302     33,794,211,840  42,857          

CHAPTERS:

Number          Time In         Length          Avg Video Rate  Max 1-Sec Rate  Max 1-Sec Time  Max 5-Sec Rate  Max 5-Sec Time  Max 10Sec Rate  Max 10Sec Time  Avg Frame Size  Max Frame Size  Max Frame Time  
------          -------         ------          --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  
1               0:00:00.000     0:06:39.065     34,969 kbps     51,853 kbps     00:02:26.771    36,951 kbps     00:02:26.813    36,391 kbps     00:02:26.855    182,292 bytes   593,201 bytes   00:06:39.065    
2               0:06:39.065     0:09:07.380     35,346 kbps     46,731 kbps     00:12:04.473    37,388 kbps     00:11:28.479    36,530 kbps     00:12:09.228    184,279 bytes   608,258 bytes   00:12:24.910    
3               0:15:46.445     0:06:03.613     35,126 kbps     43,718 kbps     00:16:59.351    37,124 kbps     00:16:56.265    36,414 kbps     00:16:51.260    183,131 bytes   656,638 bytes   00:16:53.804    
4               0:21:50.058     0:06:45.696     35,361 kbps     45,342 kbps     00:23:00.337    37,345 kbps     00:25:33.406    36,436 kbps     00:25:28.109    184,357 bytes   615,061 bytes   00:24:02.399    
5               0:28:35.755     0:06:16.209     35,290 kbps     44,282 kbps     00:34:03.416    37,316 kbps     00:33:54.240    36,231 kbps     00:29:20.008    183,985 bytes   525,188 bytes   00:29:53.500    
6               0:34:51.964     0:04:14.712     35,284 kbps     49,488 kbps     00:36:27.184    37,893 kbps     00:36:23.556    37,140 kbps     00:36:18.092    183,952 bytes   574,473 bytes   00:35:19.117    
7               0:39:06.677     0:09:40.037     35,325 kbps     49,515 kbps     00:40:57.830    38,566 kbps     00:39:37.666    36,652 kbps     00:41:08.215    184,166 bytes   591,380 bytes   00:39:46.884    
8               0:48:46.715     0:03:29.167     35,193 kbps     51,031 kbps     00:49:18.747    38,165 kbps     00:49:15.702    36,869 kbps     00:49:10.530    183,478 bytes   523,375 bytes   00:49:18.956    
9               0:52:15.882     0:02:48.168     35,294 kbps     46,851 kbps     00:53:44.387    36,883 kbps     00:53:43.970    36,441 kbps     00:54:23.927    184,006 bytes   613,594 bytes   00:54:10.830    
10              0:55:04.050     0:09:29.360     35,274 kbps     46,093 kbps     01:04:01.462    37,216 kbps     01:03:58.209    36,801 kbps     01:03:53.204    183,900 bytes   537,086 bytes   01:03:23.883    
11              1:04:33.411     0:06:08.534     35,296 kbps     44,870 kbps     01:10:04.992    37,851 kbps     01:09:56.942    36,778 kbps     01:10:04.658    184,015 bytes   689,980 bytes   01:10:12.541    
12              1:10:41.946     0:02:53.339     35,268 kbps     41,164 kbps     01:12:19.960    36,571 kbps     01:11:54.810    36,137 kbps     01:12:50.491    183,872 bytes   605,966 bytes   01:13:34.785    
13              1:13:35.285     0:05:23.239     35,244 kbps     42,710 kbps     01:18:38.338    37,372 kbps     01:18:43.593    36,248 kbps     01:17:54.378    183,745 bytes   615,084 bytes   01:18:39.172    
14              1:18:58.525     0:06:18.503     35,174 kbps     54,050 kbps     01:24:48.500    39,725 kbps     01:24:44.370    37,140 kbps     01:24:40.700    183,383 bytes   715,524 bytes   01:24:49.167    
15              1:25:17.028     0:05:27.702     35,374 kbps     48,726 kbps     01:27:19.901    38,033 kbps     01:28:18.376    36,965 kbps     01:27:10.808    184,423 bytes   598,439 bytes   01:30:12.240    
16              1:30:44.730     0:14:23.571     32,102 kbps     49,681 kbps     01:32:12.068    38,519 kbps     01:39:02.102    37,316 kbps     01:32:03.017    167,373 bytes   584,680 bytes   01:32:12.151    

STREAM DIAGNOSTICS:

File            PID             Type            Codec           Language                Seconds                 Bitrate                 Bytes           Packets         
----            ---             ----            -----           --------                --------------          --------------          -------------   -----           
00800.M2TS      4113 (0x1011)   0x1B            AVC                                     6308.219                34,827                  27,461,877,515  149,338,351     
00800.M2TS      4352 (0x1100)   0x83            TrueHD          eng (English)           6308.219                2,144                   1,690,422,710   12,780,276      
00800.M2TS      4353 (0x1101)   0x83            TrueHD          fra (French)            6308.219                2,151                   1,696,365,370   12,840,274      
00800.M2TS      4608 (0x1200)   0x90            PGS             eng (English)           6308.219                34                      26,432,004      150,970         
00800.M2TS      4609 (0x1201)   0x90            PGS             eng (English)           6308.219                25                      19,841,885      115,684         
00800.M2TS      4610 (0x1202)   0x90            PGS             ara (Arabic)            6308.219                15                      11,965,853      72,480          
00800.M2TS      4611 (0x1203)   0x90            PGS             nld (Dutch)             6308.219                23                      17,850,975      101,558         
00800.M2TS      4612 (0x1204)   0x90            PGS             fra (French)            6308.219                23                      18,333,670      104,688         
00800.M2TS      4613 (0x1205)   0x90            PGS             spa (Spanish)           6308.219                32                      25,290,927      144,822         
00800.M2TS      4614 (0x1206)   0x90            PGS             eng (English)           6308.219                34                      26,447,000      151,050         




Now, I was curious what that hidden third English PGS (i.e. text/subtitles) track was, which is accessible in playlist 00801.MPLS, and lo and behold, the track is actually British English:







You know, in case British people get confused by American English. Unfortunately as you can see, it's not English SDH, so British people who are deaf or hard of hearing are screwed, but I think there's only about two dozen of them in the first place.

I assume that those with Region B (and maybe C?) players will auto-load with playlist 00801.MPLS and when they select English subtitles, they will get British English. Though I double-checked, and there is yet another playlist, 00201.MPLS, where all the subtitle options are offered, with none hidden. Perhaps this is the one Region C players would default to?
post #263 of 824
Quote:

Wot in the world the difference is almost night and day. It makes the previous version look like an upscaled DVD!! Just when you thought you've seen everything I mean!

Problem is there's no way to get this in Canada yet. Amazon.ca is all the sudden went "unavailable". Did anyone order through there or did it all the sudden said unavailable?
post #264 of 824
Quote:
Originally Posted by David Susilo View Post

Yes you can, especially in the fast moving scenes (The Other Guys, Total Recall), better colour timing and contrast (Ghostbusters, Spiderman).

They tend tu run at 34 mbps whereas the regular counterpart goes as low as only 4 mbps.

That sounds nice then, I love hi bitrate BDs cool.gif

Quote:
Originally Posted by Neo_Reloaded View Post

From a technical perspective, no - these are still 1080p Blu-rays, and any image quality gains due to increased bitrate will be minimal.

On a film-by-film basis, there is the opportunity for improvements. If the previous Blu-ray of the film was not from a 4K master, meaning the studio had to go back to the film elements and re-scan and create a new master using the current state-of-the-art in film mastering technology and techniques - then yes, there should definitely be an improvement (as seen by the new Ghostbusters Blu-ray). But this is because of the obvious reason that they created a better master before putting it on Blu-ray. If they had made such a high-quality master back in 2009, the original Blu-ray would be this good even though they weren't pushing 4K TV sets and 4K upscaling yet.

So if they had to make a new master (Ghostbusters, 2002 Spider-Man), yes it should definitely be noticeable. For films that already had 4K masters for their last Blu-ray release (2012 Amazing Spider-Man, Taxi Driver), I can't imagine you'd see much of a difference at all. Don't think of these as having anything to do with 4K TV sets (because they don't) - treat them like Blu-ray re-issues, some of which have had remasters.

Umm really eh. Guess you have to select 4k titles carefully.. get the good ones only.

Quote:
Originally Posted by David Susilo View Post

The high bitrate makes a lot of difference in fast moving scenes. It's easily be seen for projector users and/or Darbee Darblet users.

I got Darbee biggrin.gif - I could definitely use some of those 4k titles then, gonna check out Amazon. ca, hopefully they're not 'out' like a previous poster mentioned..
post #265 of 824
Quote:
Well, state of the art scanning versus outdated scanning from many years ago. We see that quality all the time these days from modern DI material on high bit rate BDs. It requires no 4K master (but oversampled scanning to 2K), just the use of modern technology. Should have looked like this when the first BD was released.
post #266 of 824
I've been going through the Ghostbusters, and there are some cute little technical easter eggs on the disc:

The World of 4K by Sony Trailer--If this is supposed to play before the film, it didn't for me. It has a lot of nature clips, followed by bits from The Amazing Spider-Man, The Bridge on the River Kwai, Lawrence of Arabia, and Total Recall (2012):
Code:
QUICK SUMMARY:

Disc Title: GHOSTBUSTERS
Disc Size: 34,844,021,509 bytes
Protection: AACS
BD-Java: Yes
Playlist: 00451.MPLS
Size: 289,191,936 bytes
Length: 0:02:01.162
Total Bitrate: 19.09 Mbps
Video: MPEG-4 AVC Video / 17998 kbps / 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
Audio: English / Dolby Digital Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -4dB

Four rating tags of the Netherlands' Kijkwijzer system (there's also a Dutch info tag elsewhere on the disc) from AL to 16 (except 9), As though Ghostbusters were rated the equivalent of "anywhere from G to NC-17 (except PG)" in the United States. confused.gif Playlists 00550.MPLS through 00553.MPLS (00267.m2ts-00270.m2ts contain these brief, cute little videos.

Example: AL
Code:
QUICK SUMMARY:

Disc Title: GHOSTBUSTERS
Disc Size: 34,844,021,509 bytes
Protection: AACS
BD-Java: Yes
Playlist: 00550.MPLS
Size: 12,546,048 bytes
Length: 0:00:09.009
Total Bitrate: 11.14 Mbps
Video: MPEG-2 Video / 10394 kbps / 1080i / 29.970 fps / 16:9
Audio: English / Dolby Digital Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -4dB

In addition to the aforementioned Dutch copyright tag, there is one in Arabic, but also one in German from the FSK, which is bizarre, because there are no German options on the disc. confused.gif
Code:
QUICK SUMMARY:

Disc Title: GHOSTBUSTERS
Disc Size: 34,844,021,509 bytes
Protection: AACS
BD-Java: Yes
Playlist: 00025.MPLS
Size: 1,148,928 bytes
Length: 0:00:05.046
Total Bitrate: 1.82 Mbps
Video: MPEG-2 Video / 854 kbps / 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9


And there's this, which is an unidentified collection of color bars and test patterns, followed by two pictures of women (?), and then the world's slowest panorama shot of an outdoor area (possibly in Japan? The end shot has a somewhat Japanese-looking building in it)? I don't know if this is somehow related to the disc's use in Sony 4K TV's or what...
Code:
QUICK SUMMARY:

Disc Title: GHOSTBUSTERS
Disc Size: 34,844,021,509 bytes
Protection: AACS
BD-Java: Yes
Playlist: 00002.MPLS
Size: 323,088,384 bytes
Length: 0:04:46.244
Total Bitrate: 9.03 Mbps
Video: MPEG-4 AVC Video / 8584 kbps / 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

There are other bits and bobs, mostly the standard plethora of multilingual copyright screens.

Oh, and there's a region mismatch screen (as well as a parental control lockout screen) from Sony, which is amusing, given that it has no place on a region-free disc.
post #267 of 824
I thought all of Sony's discs had test patterns imbedded. You just enter in the numerical code for SONY and you can access them.
post #268 of 824
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kris Deering View Post

I thought all of Sony's discs had test patterns imbedded. You just enter in the numerical code for SONY and you can access them.

I wasn't aware of that at all, I will have to try it, thanks. smile.gif
post #269 of 824
Quote:
Originally Posted by JulianPope View Post

I really have to know, I understand that these movies are 'mastered in 4k' but they are still blu rays. Would I be able to see the difference between a regular blu ray and a 'mastered in 4k blu ray' on my 60" LED?

It really depends on how BAD the older BD are.
These "4k" BDs basically make these movies the best they can be on BD, while older BDs may have various problems like dated master, low-bitrate, etc.
post #270 of 824
Quote:
Originally Posted by McCrutchy View Post

I've been going through the Ghostbusters, and there are some cute little technical easter eggs on the disc:

The World of 4K by Sony Trailer--If this is supposed to play before the film, it didn't for me. It has a lot of nature clips, followed by bits from The Amazing Spider-Man, The Bridge on the River Kwai, Lawrence of Arabia, and Total Recall (2012):
Code:
QUICK SUMMARY:

Disc Title: GHOSTBUSTERS
Disc Size: 34,844,021,509 bytes
Protection: AACS
BD-Java: Yes
Playlist: 00451.MPLS
Size: 289,191,936 bytes
Length: 0:02:01.162
Total Bitrate: 19.09 Mbps
Video: MPEG-4 AVC Video / 17998 kbps / 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
Audio: English / Dolby Digital Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -4dB

Four rating tags of the Netherlands' Kijkwijzer system (there's also a Dutch info tag elsewhere on the disc) from AL to 16 (except 9), As though Ghostbusters were rated the equivalent of "anywhere from G to NC-17 (except PG)" in the United States. confused.gif Playlists 00550.MPLS through 00553.MPLS (00267.m2ts-00270.m2ts contain these brief, cute little videos.

Example: AL
Code:
QUICK SUMMARY:

Disc Title: GHOSTBUSTERS
Disc Size: 34,844,021,509 bytes
Protection: AACS
BD-Java: Yes
Playlist: 00550.MPLS
Size: 12,546,048 bytes
Length: 0:00:09.009
Total Bitrate: 11.14 Mbps
Video: MPEG-2 Video / 10394 kbps / 1080i / 29.970 fps / 16:9
Audio: English / Dolby Digital Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -4dB

In addition to the aforementioned Dutch copyright tag, there is one in Arabic, but also one in German from the FSK, which is bizarre, because there are no German options on the disc. confused.gif
Code:
QUICK SUMMARY:

Disc Title: GHOSTBUSTERS
Disc Size: 34,844,021,509 bytes
Protection: AACS
BD-Java: Yes
Playlist: 00025.MPLS
Size: 1,148,928 bytes
Length: 0:00:05.046
Total Bitrate: 1.82 Mbps
Video: MPEG-2 Video / 854 kbps / 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9


And there's this, which is an unidentified collection of color bars and test patterns, followed by two pictures of women (?), and then the world's slowest panorama shot of an outdoor area (possibly in Japan? The end shot has a somewhat Japanese-looking building in it)? I don't know if this is somehow related to the disc's use in Sony 4K TV's or what...
Code:
QUICK SUMMARY:

Disc Title: GHOSTBUSTERS
Disc Size: 34,844,021,509 bytes
Protection: AACS
BD-Java: Yes
Playlist: 00002.MPLS
Size: 323,088,384 bytes
Length: 0:04:46.244
Total Bitrate: 9.03 Mbps
Video: MPEG-4 AVC Video / 8584 kbps / 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

There are other bits and bobs, mostly the standard plethora of multilingual copyright screens.

Oh, and there's a region mismatch screen (as well as a parental control lockout screen) from Sony, which is amusing, given that it has no place on a region-free disc.

All these short videos are there so the BD authors do not have to re-program that much when they work on different region discs. You know, like a template.
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