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I could not find a detail increase in those few examples and the quite different framing & color grading did not make it easy either.
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According to the AVS review Captain Phillips is a Mi4K release! biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by helvetica bold View Post

According to the AVS review Captain Phillips is a Mi4K release! biggrin.gif

All of Sony's new releases will share that tag.
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Originally Posted by PlayNice View Post

All of Sony's new releases will share that tag.

Well it's no longer special lol. With most cgi still coming out in 2k, I guess mi4k really only makes the non cgi scenes look "better".
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It doesn't matter what the source is.
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My 2014 4K remastered Robocop just arrived. We'll see!biggrin.gif
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Robocop has nothing to do with Sony's Mi4K series
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Originally Posted by David Susilo View Post

Robocop has nothing to do with Sony's Mi4K series
Sir, Mr. David Susilo, Sir:
Did I say it DOES, SIR? BTW this is a FREE country and I earned my stripes to speak FREELY, Sir.mad.gif
Thank you
post #789 of 825
Wow, rude much? You stated that Robocop has nothing to do with this thread at all. Yeah it's a free country, while you're at it, let's talk about projector, receivers, speakers etc in this thread that is clearly stated for "Mi4K" series.
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Mr. David Susilo:
The thread title IS: AVS Can't-Wait Special-"Mastered in 4K" Blu-Ray Releases-...
MY humble interpretation is that any 4K "Mastered" title is fair game. That's what I did and I believe others have done as well.
Thank you
post #791 of 825
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Originally Posted by David Susilo View Post

Wow, rude much? You stated that Robocop has nothing to do with this thread at all. Yeah it's a free country, while you're at it, let's talk about projector, receivers, speakers etc in this thread that is clearly stated for "Mi4K" series.
NO, Sir. You are the rude person and the bully.
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Move on guys...

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Originally Posted by helvetica bold View Post

According to the AVS review Captain Phillips is a Mi4K release! biggrin.gif
Check Ebay #321294474826, it clearly shows in the back of the case: "MASTERED IN 4 K"
post #794 of 825
I can see what's gonna happen here: Mastered in 4K is probably the same as Mi4K by Sony, who's famous for AV gizmo terminology and stuff. Then there will be all the Ghostbuster-like releases with enthusiasts hoping that all such movies were actually shot in 4k-like resolution for theaters and therefore they will be like the Bluray Audio discs (Tom Petty Live, Beatles Love, Tom Petty Mojo are the only ones I know of) that sound like the master tapes. We shall see.
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Originally Posted by David Susilo View Post

Robocop has nothing to do with Sony's Mi4K series


Actually, it does. Sony owns the movie and they did the 4K re-mastering. It is for all intents and purposes, a Mi4K title distributed by Fox as a result of their current agreement with Sony to publish the MGM films until 2016, when they revert back to Sony and likely get 4K Blu-Ray releases. Whether or not it has any of the 4K and Triluminos metadata, I couldn't say, but it is a product of Sony's 4K re-mastering efforts.
Edited by LexInVA - 1/17/14 at 10:32am
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All your info is correct. However when I asked my contact at Sony Pictures, she said that Robocop does not have Mi4K metadata and Triluminous colour-difference data.

Regardless, the new transfer looks amazing (well, compared to the original release that was only a tad better than upscaled DVD wink.gif)
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Robocop is not branded as a "Mastered in 4K" title by Sony and does not contain the metadata and Triluminous color data as David noted.
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So what 4K Sony BD looks the absolute best? I haven't seen enough of them to give a qualified opinion.
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Originally Posted by LexInVA View Post

Actually, it does. Sony owns the movie and they did the 4K re-mastering. It is for all intents and purposes, a Mi4K title distributed by Fox as a result of their current agreement with Sony to publish the MGM films until 2016, when they revert back to Sony and likely get 4K Blu-Ray releases. Whether or not it has any of the 4K and Triluminos metadata, I couldn't say, but it is a product of Sony's 4K re-mastering efforts.

Sony owns a stake in MGM, but does not own MGM or its catalog outright. As far as I'm aware, MGM still controls its own catalog, regardless of which other studios it may sign distribution agreements with.

Currently, Fox distributes MGM titles on home video. MGM tells them what to release, then Fox does the disc authoring and sends them to market. Sony and its "Mastered in 4k" program have nothing to do with this.
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Originally Posted by Phantom Stranger View Post

So what 4K Sony BD looks the absolute best? I haven't seen enough of them to give a qualified opinion.

They are all still relative to the source material and there is nothing else special (except the expanded color if you can utilize it) about them compared to other good 4K sourced discs. I own the Moneyball version and it is quite good and an improvement over the original disc.
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Originally Posted by Josh Z View Post

Sony owns a stake in MGM, but does not own MGM or its catalog outright. As far as I'm aware, MGM still controls its own catalog, regardless of which other studios it may sign distribution agreements with.

Currently, Fox distributes MGM titles on home video. MGM tells them what to release, then Fox does the disc authoring and sends them to market. Sony and its "Mastered in 4k" program have nothing to do with this.

Yep. There is a distribution deal in place between Sony Pictures and MGM, but it's more for the latter's theatrical features at this point. It's Fox who solely handle MGM's video catalogue (aside from licensed movies, e.g. Shout!) thanks to the extension of their previous deal which does indeed expire in 2016.
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Originally Posted by Phantom Stranger View Post

So what 4K Sony BD looks the absolute best? I haven't seen enough of them to give a qualified opinion.

The 4k remaster of Total Recall (2012) looks absolutely amazing, mind you the initial release looked pretty good except for the audio issues that ruined what should have been a great disc. But the 4k remaster does certainly look superior. I have done comparisons between the original blu-ray releases of Ghostbusters and Battle: Los Angeles
and their 4k counterparts and they're both look terrific!
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Originally Posted by Phantom Stranger View Post

So what 4K Sony BD looks the absolute best? I haven't seen enough of them to give a qualified opinion.

IMHO, everything except for The Amazing Spiderman is better (or at least more preferable to my eyes). As far as The Amazing Spiderman goes, they are both look like crud.
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Originally Posted by Mattyo1612 View Post

The 4k remaster of Total Recall (2012) looks absolutely amazing, mind you the initial release looked pretty good except for the audio issues that ruined what should have been a great disc. But the 4k remaster does certainly look superior. I have done comparisons between the original blu-ray releases of Ghostbusters and Battle: Los Angeles
and their 4k counterparts and they're both look terrific!

There wasn't much between Battle LA and Taxi Driver Mi4K and their original versions, though I kept the former and sold the latter (keeping the original Blu-ray with extras). But Ghostbusters is indeed stunning, Spider-Man and Spider-Man 2 are very solid upgrades and Men In Black deserves an honourable mention. Amazing Spider-Man is a wash, but if anything the Mi4K version looks slightly oversharpened and I'd rather have the 'regular' 3D version anyway. Total Recall looked good, but I didn't have the original to compare it to. Haven't watched Glory yet.

(BTW these are being viewed on a Sony 4K set with Mi4K Reality Creation & Triluminous Colour both set to on.)
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Originally Posted by Geoff D View Post

There wasn't much between Battle LA and Taxi Driver Mi4K and their original versions, though I kept the former and sold the latter (keeping the original Blu-ray with extras). But Ghostbusters is indeed stunning, Spider-Man and Spider-Man 2 are very solid upgrades and Men In Black deserves an honourable mention. Amazing Spider-Man is a wash, but if anything the Mi4K version looks slightly oversharpened and I'd rather have the 'regular' 3D version anyway. Total Recall looked good, but I didn't have the original to compare it to. Haven't watched Glory yet.

(BTW these are being viewed on a Sony 4K set with Mi4K Reality Creation & Triluminous Colour both set to on.)

Geoff, can you see a difference in color with those settings on your Sony?
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n/m
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Originally Posted by DavidHir View Post

Geoff, can you see a difference in color with those settings on your Sony?

In a word? No. There are some spectral samples (in this very thread I believe) which show a few scattered values above 235 in, say, Spider-Man, mostly in the reds, but it'd take a braver man than I to pick out which one has xv colour enabled in an A-B test. smile.gif

And yes, I've properly calibrated my TV. The xv colour test pattern in Spears and Munsil 2nd ed. is passed without incident, as long as I have manually set xv colour to on in the TV's menu. I have also checked various colour ramps which pass values all the way up to 255 with no clipping (and that's whether xv colour is enabled or not).
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Is there a "single" known location for all the currently released Mastered in 4K Titles ?
There are apparently 20 titles but even Amazon doesn't show this many and the Sony Store shows even less .
Hard to get enthusiastic with Sony if they won't advertise very well .biggrin.gif

Scott.....................
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Originally Posted by Scott_R_K View Post

Is there a "single" known location for all the currently released Mastered in 4K Titles ?
There are apparently 20 titles but even Amazon doesn't show this many and the Sony Store shows even less .
Hard to get enthusiastic with Sony if they won't advertise very well .biggrin.gif

Scott.....................
I checked Ebay prior to this post and they have 28 titles listed. Some titles are listed more than once.
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Originally Posted by Geoff D View Post

In a word? No. There are some spectral samples (in this very thread I believe) which show a few scattered values above 235 in, say, Spider-Man, mostly in the reds, but it'd take a braver man than I to pick out which one has xv colour enabled in an A-B test. smile.gif

And yes, I've properly calibrated my TV. The xv colour test pattern in Spears and Munsil 2nd ed. is passed without incident, as long as I have manually set xv colour to on in the TV's menu. I have also checked various colour ramps which pass values all the way up to 255 with no clipping (and that's whether xv colour is enabled or not).

Geoff which test pattern are you using for x.v.Color? I have the 2nd edition disk and I would love to test the PS4 on my new Sony display. I thought there wasn't a test pattern
ftor xvColor. But if there is I would love to know.
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