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You should have kept the first one.

I was on the fence, but I decided to try to fix the lean issue by re-attaching the stand using the lay-down procedure Samsung recommends. Doing that caused a ton of banding/DSE, so the decision was made...
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I was on the fence, but I decided to try to fix the lean issue by re-attaching the stand using the lay-down procedure Samsung recommends. Doing that caused a ton of banding/DSE, so the decision was made...
Damn. I installed mine keeping up right someone else helping.
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These are the lines I am seeing. Hope whoever checks it out can see it.
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Pictures taken on the menu and the hub
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These are the lines I am seeing. Hope whoever checks it out can see it.

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Pictures taken on the menu and the hub

I can't really see it on the first 2 pics., I do see the lines on the 3rd pic.

I don't know what that is...maybe static electricity- a lack of a grounded circuit.

Could be a processing computation defect caused by firmware updating.

Have you done a factory reset?
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I can't really see it on the first 2 pics., I do see the lines on the 3rd pic.

I don't know what that is...maybe static electricity- a lack of a grounded circuit.

Could be a processing computation defect caused by firmware updating.

Have you done a factory reset?
I did a while ago when I first saw it. The third pic is of the hub and is different from what I see in menu. Do you see anything like that on your hub?
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I can't really see it on the first 2 pics., I do see the lines on the 3rd pic.

I don't know what that is...maybe static electricity- a lack of a grounded circuit.

Could be a processing computation defect caused by firmware updating.

Have you done a factory reset?
Factory set did nothing.
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I did a while ago when I first saw it. The third pic is of the hub and is different from what I see in menu. Do you see anything like that on your hub?

No it looks solid, no lines.
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These two show more- it does look like very mild static electrical lines- due to improper grounding and power surges.

Could be interference as the HDTV does pick up over-the air signals.
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These two show more- it does look like very mild static electrical lines- due to improper grounding and power surges.

Could be interference as the HDTV does pick up over-the air signals.
Non of my others looked like this and had banding/lines I can see during movement. Ugh. Gonna replace it tomorrow. I'm on the silver rewards with best buy and have 60 days to return. It's only been about a month. WTF. He we go again. If it was a little bit I could deal with but it's from top to bottom.
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Not for the Faint of Heart - the loading screen for the Explore 3D App.

Major Flashlighting......eek.gif
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Not for the Faint of Heart - the loading screen for the Explore 3D App.

Major Flashlighting......eek.gif
When u bring up your standard menu, at the top where it's blue yours is solid right? without any streaks or lines?
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Menu from D series:

http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-tvs/samsung-un55d8000/4505-6482_7-34503721-2.html

Notice the top is lighter blue.

Same thing with the ES menu:

http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-tvs/samsung-un55es8000/4505-6482_7-35118272-2.html

Lighter blue top line on menu.

Even the F series menu (on pretty awful pictures):

http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-tvs/samsung-un55f8000/4505-6482_7-35576107.html

Notice the color gradient transitions.

http://www.televisioninfo.com/

Had better photos of menus to research....
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Originally Posted by matrix123 View Post

Non of my others looked like this and had banding/lines I can see during movement. Ugh. Gonna replace it tomorrow. I'm on the silver rewards with best buy and have 60 days to return. It's only been about a month. WTF. He we go again. If it was a little bit I could deal with but it's from top to bottom.
I think you are making the right choice if other TV's had not showed this symptom being plugged into the same outlet. Better luck with the replacement!
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When u bring up your standard menu, at the top where it's blue yours is solid right? without any streaks or lines?

No its not solid blue it has the color gradient of 8-bit color mentioned a few pages back.

Its always been that way from the D series, ES series and now the F series- see above post.

I know its difficult to stop looking for issues.

I've been there before...so I known how it can be.

#1 Realize that no HDTV is perfect.

#2 Every TV has "flaws" you won't notice for weeks, months or years later.

#3 Focus on the content not the idealized technical performance.

Then, again you may have a issue with the Smart Hub screen.
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Boardwalk Empire on HBO really shows off the F7100's outstanding picture quality.
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No its not solid blue it has the color gradient of 8-bit color mentioned a few pages back.

Its always been that way from the D series, ES series and now the F series- see above post.

I know its difficult to stop looking for issues.

I've been there before...so I known how it can be.

#1 Realize that no HDTV is perfect.

#2 Every TV has "flaws" you won't notice for weeks, months or years later.

#3 Focus on the content not the idealized technical performance.

Then, again you may have a issue with the Smart Hub screen.

This is so true, I really have to agree with you on that, but I guess we all can get a little nervous when dropping a few grand on these TV's, oh by the way I reset to default settings from best buys calibration, the guy did maybe a half an hours work...not worth what they charge, or free for that matter.
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This is so true, I really have to agree with you on that, but I guess we all can get a little nervous when dropping a few grand on these TV's, oh by the way I reset to default settings from best buys calibration, the guy did maybe a half an hours work...not worth what they charge, or free for that matter.

Gotcha...my gut always told me the "free" Best Buy calibration was a waste of time.

Did you write down the settings of the calibration?
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Firmware Version 1110 Notes have been released....

Drum roll please.......


1.This firmware is for TV Model(s): LED F5500/F6300/F6350/F6400/F6800/F7050/F7100/F7150, PDP F5500
2.The version is 1110.1
3.This firmware update will improve the following:

- Solves Network Connection Issue with Wireless Router.

- Improves Picture Quality.

- Solves the issue Screen Mirroring does not work.

- Solves the issue Digital Clean View does not work correctly.

Hmmmmmm...sounds very familiar.....wink.gif L.O.L.
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Gotcha...my gut always told me the "free" Best Buy calibration was a waste of time.

Did you write down the settings of the calibration?

I actually posted them, earlier, I through the sheet out!!! the settings actually made the blacks look purple, it was terrible.
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I actually posted them, earlier, I through the sheet out!!! the settings actually made the blacks look purple, it was terrible.

Oh yes, I see them now:

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1470900/official-samsung-unxxf7100-owners-thread/2010#post_23633889
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I'm currently on firmware v1104 and just found out that I can update to v1105. Is it safe to do so? Is there a website that will tell me what v1105 changes/fixes?

Edit: Just saw a post above me... is v1110 out now already? Guess I should hook my TV up to the net more often.
Edited by CurryStorm - 8/16/13 at 7:59pm
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What the heck guys? I currently have a 46" polaroid I bought from Walmart that has none of the issues described in the 2000+ posts. Before I read all of these posts I was certain I would buy the 65" F7100 after next payday. What is the point in even buying a 240hz tv if everyone turns off the motion processing to avoid terrible side effects? I'm just a little skeptical at this point... If I pay $2000+ for a tv it better have "0" imperfections... Clouding, banding, flashlighting...really wtf? I have seen the tv at best buy and hhgregg, and it looks awesome on display with the samsung feed. What's with the problems? I mean damn if I wanted all these issues I'd buy a Vizio....
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Originally Posted by Wirth05 View Post

What the heck guys? I currently have a 46" polaroid I bought from Walmart that has none of the issues described in the 2000+ posts. Before I read all of these posts I was certain I would buy the 65" F7100 after next payday. What is the point in even buying a 240hz tv if everyone turns off the motion processing to avoid terrible side effects? I'm just a little skeptical at this point... If I pay $2000+ for a tv it better have "0" imperfections... Clouding, banding, flashlighting...really wtf? I have seen the tv at best buy and hhgregg, and it looks awesome on display with the samsung feed. What's with the problems? I mean damn if I wanted all these issues I'd buy a Vizio....

The problem with the "Samsung feed" or whatever junk they decide to play on display Tvs is it's basically a slide show of still pictures, and/or barely moving pictures. This is done strategically so you don't see the motion issues like banding, DSE, juddering, etc. The displays are also in a very well lit store which makes it almost impossible to detect clouding and flashlighting.

Well then there's the fact that you can buy 10 different units of the same EXACT model and get 10 different results. No.1 has bad flashlighting , No.2 has terrible banding and flashlighting No.3 has a dead pixel and dark patches in all 4 corners. No.4 has really bad flashlighting. Etc.etc.etc.

TV's are all **** nowadays. I seriously regret selling my 5 year old 40" Samsung 6series that had zero problems except for being to small for my living room. I've had 5 brand new TV's in my house in the past month and they all had serious defects. I wish I didn't sell that 40" already. If I could do it over I would wait for this generation of TVs to pass. LED backlit / thin cabinet TV's are complete trash. Plasma has its own issues but I might end up buying a place holder plasma to get me through this generation of crap !
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I had an odd problem earlier today. Started a game on the PS3 and after the normal video mode switch, screen stays black, can't get the menu or anything. Holding the power button and the red light flickers but no response. Eventually I hear the small pop and it turns off. Then I turn it back on and the screen brightness acts very strange, going nearly-invisible dim after ~60 seconds. Bringing up the menu revives the backlight until it dims again. I went and fiddled all the ECO options off/on to ensure they were off, to no effect. Eventually I did a factory reset and all is well again.

Kinda depressing to see that kind of hokey behavior. As if there weren't enough problems...
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Originally Posted by Wirth05 View Post

What the heck guys? I currently have a 46" polaroid I bought from Walmart that has none of the issues described in the 2000+ posts. Before I read all of these posts I was certain I would buy the 65" F7100 after next payday. What is the point in even buying a 240hz tv if everyone turns off the motion processing to avoid terrible side effects? I'm just a little skeptical at this point... If I pay $2000+ for a tv it better have "0" imperfections... Clouding, banding, flashlighting...really wtf? I have seen the tv at best buy and hhgregg, and it looks awesome on display with the samsung feed. What's with the problems? I mean damn if I wanted all these issues I'd buy a Vizio....

While I agree with your sentiment, I should point out that there are definitely much worse issues than what we talk about here. I had a Sony W802A which was an absolutely putrid mess of shadows, clouding and flashlighting (I was so happy to get that out of my sight). I was also just watching a movie tonight on a friend's 2012 Panasonic LED, and it has really bad clouding, flashlighting and DSE.

(Panasonic's motion processing is definitely better than the F7100 though. "Weak" does a great job at reducing judder & edge flicker to acceptable levels, and I could not detect a single artifacts in about 2 hours feeding the Panasonic various anime clips I've seen have major problems on the Samsung.)

If I were you, I'd hold on to your current set for as long as possible unless it has serious defects.
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