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post #2371 of 5013
Vam724's settings are a big no-go for my 65" th02 panel Costco F7050.

Don't they even make full-array displays anymore? I don't care about super thin. Or having a TV that acts like a bad computer/internet. I think I have to send my Sammy back frown.gif

Oh… ok, here we have PBS WTTW which is supposed to be broadcast in 1080? Anyway, it usually has a stunning picture. I turned it on tonight on the Sammy and it was like watching a particularly bad SD feed. Then turned on ABC HD or something similar and it wasn't as bad (tho still a crappy quality picture). Might I have some issue with up/down scaling or something? A setting? Or it not being compatible somehow with Comcast cable? Tho it's equally bad on old cable box vs. the new Comcast X1.
post #2372 of 5013
Does anyone recommend using dynamic contrast on low?
post #2373 of 5013
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Originally Posted by 4top455 View Post

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Welcome....there's really no Cure ...flashlighting is inherent to the technology...!! Despite claims of fixing it by rubbing the screen or loosening of screws etc. no evidence exists to show that tvey work.Best solution is to just try to 1)lower the backlight 2) use cinema black 3) use ambient/bias lighting 4) watch full screen content .Over time you'll just get used to it .....All said there are different levels of flashlighting .If its too bad you may wanna try another panel if only at night/dark room but not in most settings then its par for course!! Of course many ppl will disagree....this is just my.02 !! Hope it helps

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Originally Posted by david3772 View Post

Is the flashlighting conspicuous when watching a program, or only between signals? Reading this thread can lead one to be hyper-critical. When our F7100 is on but is not receiving a signal, the flashlighting looks pretty bad. Start a program, though, and all is well.

thanks for the replies guys, I really appreciate it. No, the flashlighting is not so horrible that it disrupts content viewing. It is mostly conspicuous in dark scenes. I don't watch any broadcast content on the set, generally only content from my mac mini, so I can't say as though I can tell you if the flashlighting appears between signals, as it constantly has a signal being sent to it. It is quite noticeable during dark scenes in full screen content though, which is what made me frustrated to begin with.

I really need to attach a blu-ray player to the set to fully test out the picture quality. I watch all 1080p content from my mac, but even great rips are somewhat compressed. AS a result, it leaves me feeling a bit remiss. The picture quality is good, but its not STUNNING. I am hoping this is just due to slightly compressed 1080p content and once I throw a real blu ray at it, all will be forgiven.

All in all though I guess I'll just live with the flashlighting. I don't think there's much I can do now in the way of exchanging the set for another one.
post #2374 of 5013
Thanks for trying them out. It'll obviously vary from set to set smile.gif
Mine is A 55INCH set btw.
post #2375 of 5013
I use dynamic contrast on "Low" I find it perfectly fitting.
post #2376 of 5013
Hi. I need a little advice. I didn't read the entire thread but I know there is some problems with some Panels (Sammys, Sharp, etc) on this units. I'm going to buy one set for a HT room I'm building. It is a small room where maybe I'll be seating 8.5-9 feet from the TV (Wall mounted).

I was going to buy the set at my local costco but they only carry at the moment the 7050 version (7100 series) in 60 and 55 inches. I was going for the 60" but then I saw the one in the floor and it was having the HH01 panels (Sharp right?) The 55" has the T-Series panels.

Now I went to my local Sams and they do have the 7450 version (7500 series) only in 55" with a T-series panel as well. Now the question is.. which warranty is better. I always think that Costco warranty is better than Sams. But then Sams has the latest TV series (at lest on the 7XXX series). Costco offers two years after the 1-year Sammys warranty included with the price. Sams offers an Extended Protection Plan with 2 and 3 years for an additional cost.

I prefer a 60" inches for my room but I think that the HH01 panel can be a factor. Also the 7450 comes with a Camera, Quad Core, etc) but 55". Decisions Decisions.


Please advise.

-Jose
post #2377 of 5013
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Originally Posted by mylopr View Post

Hi. I need a little advice. I didn't read the entire thread but I know there is some problems with some Panels (Sammys, Sharp, etc) on this units. I'm going to buy one set for a HT room I'm building. It is a small room where maybe I'll be seating 8.5-9 feet from the TV (Wall mounted).

I was going to buy the set at my local costco but they only carry at the moment the 7050 version (7100 series) in 60 and 55 inches. I was going for the 60" but then I saw the one in the floor and it was having the HH01 panels (Sharp right?) The 55" has the T-Series panels.

Now I went to my local Sams and they do have the 7450 version (7500 series) only in 55" with a T-series panel as well. Now the question is.. which warranty is better. I always think that Costco warranty is better than Sams. But then Sams has the latest TV series (at lest on the 7XXX series). Costco offers two years after the 1-year Sammys warranty included with the price. Sams offers an Extended Protection Plan with 2 and 3 years for an additional cost.

I prefer a 60" inches for my room but I think that the HH01 panel can be a factor. Also the 7450 comes with a Camera, Quad Core, etc) but 55". Decisions Decisions.


Please advise.

-Jose

The Costco warranty simply adds one year to the standard - so 2 years total warranty. You can then buy an additional 3 years (total 5 years) for something like $100. My own view is that if something is going to break it will usually happen with 2 years so it's not worth the extra. Some may disagree.

All the 7050 and 7100 in 55" are Samsung TD01 panels.

I'm thinking of picking up the 55F7050 from Costco myself before Saturday when the sale ends. I sit 11 feet away but 55" seems plenty big.
post #2378 of 5013
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Originally Posted by chappy16775 View Post

The Costco warranty simply adds one year to the standard - so 2 years total warranty. You can then buy an additional 3 years (total 5 years) for something like $100. My own view is that if something is going to break it will usually happen with 2 years so it's not worth the extra. Some may disagree.

All the 7050 and 7100 in 55" are Samsung TD01 panels.

I'm thinking of picking up the 55F7050 from Costco myself before Saturday when the sale ends. I sit 11 feet away but 55" seems plenty big.

Thanks Chappy. So you do prefer buying @ Costco vs Sams even though in my scenario Sams is carrying the equivalent to the 7500 Series instead of the equivalent of the 7100 series at Costco.


-JJ-
post #2379 of 5013
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Originally Posted by mylopr View Post

Thanks Chappy. So you do prefer buying @ Costco vs Sams even though in my scenario Sams is carrying the equivalent to the 7500 Series instead of the equivalent of the 7100 series at Costco.


-JJ-

It depends how much more they want for the 7450 versus Costco's 7050. I'm guessing its about $300 more. Not sure it's worth it.
post #2380 of 5013
Here are the modified setting I'm using. They're modified from someone else's settings I saw posted here. This is for my 60" F7100


Settings
-Picture Mode - Standard
Backlight - somewhere between 12-14(14 now)
Contrast - 56
Brightness - 45
Sharpness - 39
Color - 56
Tint - G-50. R-50

Advanced Settings
Dynamic contrast - High
Black Tone - Dark
Flesh Tone - 0

Color Space-Custom
Red - R-44. G-52. B-0
Green R-15 G-52. B-0
Blue. R-0. G-8. B-45
Yellow. R-59 G-53 B-0
Cyan. R-10. G-50 B-51
Magenta R-43 G-7. B-43

White Balance
Offset. R-25. G-26. B-26
Gain. R-16. G-25. B-25

Gamma - 0
Expert Pattern - Off
Motion Lighting - Off

Picture Settings
Color Tone-Standard
Digital Clean View-Off
MPEG Noise Filter - Low
Auto Motion Plus - Off
Cinema Black - Low

System Settings
Energy Save - Off
Eco Sensor - Off
post #2381 of 5013
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Originally Posted by mylopr View Post

Hi. I need a little advice. I didn't read the entire thread but I know there is some problems with some Panels (Sammys, Sharp, etc) on this units. I'm going to buy one set for a HT room I'm building. It is a small room where maybe I'll be seating 8.5-9 feet from the TV (Wall mounted).

I was going to buy the set at my local costco but they only carry at the moment the 7050 version (7100 series) in 60 and 55 inches. I was going for the 60" but then I saw the one in the floor and it was having the HH01 panels (Sharp right?) The 55" has the T-Series panels.

Now I went to my local Sams and they do have the 7450 version (7500 series) only in 55" with a T-series panel as well. Now the question is.. which warranty is better. I always think that Costco warranty is better than Sams. But then Sams has the latest TV series (at lest on the 7XXX series). Costco offers two years after the 1-year Sammys warranty included with the price. Sams offers an Extended Protection Plan with 2 and 3 years for an additional cost.

I prefer a 60" inches for my room but I think that the HH01 panel can be a factor. Also the 7450 comes with a Camera, Quad Core, etc) but 55". Decisions Decisions.


Please advise.

-Jose

It's only been since Saturday, but, I got the 60" HH01 sharp Samsung F7100. I may just not be as picky as some others here. After following some suggested settings and then tweaking them, I'm happy. I don't seem to have the issues some other people here have posted about. Maybe I got lucky? Don't know.
post #2382 of 5013
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Originally Posted by Aeonix01 View Post

It's only been since Saturday, but, I got the 60" HH01 sharp Samsung F7100. I may just not be as picky as some others here. After following some suggested settings and then tweaking them, I'm happy. I don't seem to have the issues some other people here have posted about. Maybe I got lucky? Don't know.

Good to hear that. What date is the built date for that 60"? The ones in my local costco are June 2013.

Choppy my local sams has the 55 7450 for $18xx. Not bad for what comes with it.

I think it comes down to 5 more inches and HH01 sharp vs quad core , evolution kit support and included camera.

-JJ-
post #2383 of 5013
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Originally Posted by meagain View Post

Vam724's settings are a big no-go for my 65" th02 panel Costco F7050.

Don't they even make full-array displays anymore? I don't care about super thin. Or having a TV that acts like a bad computer/internet. I think I have to send my Sammy back frown.gif

Oh… ok, here we have PBS WTTW which is supposed to be broadcast in 1080? Anyway, it usually has a stunning picture. I turned it on tonight on the Sammy and it was like watching a particularly bad SD feed. Then turned on ABC HD or something similar and it wasn't as bad (tho still a crappy quality picture). Might I have some issue with up/down scaling or something? A setting? Or it not being compatible somehow with Comcast cable? Tho it's equally bad on old cable box vs. the new Comcast X1.
Here's a few suggestions for you. On your cable box, set it do always output 1080i only.
On the TV go into the Settings Menu for the Picture and set the Sharpness to around 20. Then go into the Picture Options Menu and make sure the Digital Clean View and the MPEG Noise Filter are set to OFF. Next go into the Screen Size menu and select Screen Fit. If the content you are viewing has noise around the border of the TV change this to 16X9 but most brodcasts should be OK at the Screen Fit setting. Some nights are better than others with the new difgital age. It has to do with the cable company shoving so much material through their system that was not possible during the Analog era. We now get so many more provided channels (Cox has around 2000) these days from the cable TV providers but at the cost of picture quality variation. It also has to do with peak usage hours creating bandwiidth limitations that really should not happen but do. Even bad wheather can cause some picture issues. Anyways with using these settings you should get a clear picture that doesn't look like a "clay face" with decent details if your other picture settings are proper. The quality of the picture will still vary from channel to channel and show to show but thats how it is. If you really want to see this TV shine, get a Blu-ray player. I'm loving mine!
post #2384 of 5013
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Originally Posted by mylopr View Post

Good to hear that. What date is the built date for that 60"? The ones in my local costco are June 2013.

Choppy my local sams has the 55 7450 for $18xx. Not bad for what comes with it.

I think it comes down to 5 more inches and HH01 sharp vs quad core , evolution kit support and included camera.

-JJ-

Don't know build date, can't really check right now.

I got mine at a P.C. Richard. It was on sale for Labor Day weekend for $1890 or so(UN60F7100 - HH01 panel). Haggled with the guy in a very serious way. For it for $1699.98. Perhaps if there is one near you, you can try for it. Aparrantly, it is possible.
post #2385 of 5013
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Originally Posted by mgh26 View Post

Here's a few suggestions for you. On your cable box, set it do always output 1080i only.
On the TV go into the Settings Menu for the Picture and set the Sharpness to around 20. Then go into the Picture Options Menu and make sure the Digital Clean View and the MPEG Noise Filter are set to OFF. Next go into the Screen Size menu and select Screen Fit. If the content you are viewing has noise around the border of the TV change this to 16X9 but most brodcasts should be OK at the Screen Fit setting. Some nights are better than others with the new difgital age. It has to do with the cable company shoving so much material through their system that was not possible during the Analog era. We now get so many more provided channels (Cox has around 2000) these days from the cable TV providers but at the cost of picture quality variation. It also has to do with peak usage hours creating bandwiidth limitations that really should not happen but do. Even bad wheather can cause some picture issues. Anyways with using these settings you should get a clear picture that doesn't look like a "clay face" with decent details if your other picture settings are proper. The quality of the picture will still vary from channel to channel and show to show but thats how it is. If you really want to see this TV shine, get a Blu-ray player. I'm loving mine!
Agree on blu ray as reference and variable quality based on feed!! Garbage in garbage out ....BTW
Just watched Oblivion blu ray: Superb!!

So yeah try settings using bluray ir calibration disc !! Good luck
post #2386 of 5013
My local dealer says Samsung enforces fixed pricing so no discounts allowed. Not sure how you were able to haggle. Nice job though.
post #2387 of 5013
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Originally Posted by chappy16775 View Post

My local dealer says Samsung enforces fixed pricing so no discounts allowed. Not sure how you were able to haggle. Nice job though.

Odd. I've always bought Samsung, and used P.C. Richard for purchase at a discount. Last I purchased a 46" UN46B8000(I think). I don't remember how much off, but, they did beat the advertised price. Maybe they have me the employee pricing or something.
post #2388 of 5013
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Originally Posted by chappy16775 View Post

My local dealer says Samsung enforces fixed pricing so no discounts allowed. Not sure how you were able to haggle. Nice job though.

Samsung does enforce fixed prices. They're trying to follow the Apple business model. That being said, some Best Buys will price match Abe's of Maine even though their not supposed to. So, if you catch the right employee at the right time, you might be able to get a discount that you should not be getting.
post #2389 of 5013
I haggled my local best buy and got my 65" for 1749.
Just an update on the rvu all is working well. The remote is a tad slower navigating the guide. To me its worth it. No changing remotes is nice. I can go from netflix to DirecTV to Pandora, YouTube, etc easily. Also I did not notice a difference in the picture quality. On demand and live tv look great.
post #2390 of 5013
Zackariah, holy crap how did you do that? have your receipt? do you mind posting a copy so I can try and get the same deal!
post #2391 of 5013
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Originally Posted by zackariah View Post

I haggled my local best buy and got my 65" for 1749.
Just an update on the rvu all is working well. The remote is a tad slower navigating the guide. To me its worth it. No changing remotes is nice. I can go from netflix to DirecTV to Pandora, YouTube, etc easily. Also I did not notice a difference in the picture quality. On demand and live tv look great.

I'm not going to let the fact that I paid so much more diminish how much I enjoy my new 65" tv. I'm not going to let the fact that I paid so much more diminish how much I enjoy my new 65" tv. I'm not going to let the fact that I paid so much more diminish how much I enjoy my new 65" tv. I'm not going to let the fact that I paid so much more diminish how much I enjoy my new 65" tv....
post #2392 of 5013
David not sure what your getting at. There was a comment about Samsung having fixed pricing. I was just sharing my experience. About a month ago several sites had the set at 1750-1900. I got lucky I was in the market during that moment. I believe all time TVs was who I got them to pricematch.
post #2393 of 5013
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Originally Posted by zackariah View Post

David not sure what your getting at. There was a comment about Samsung having fixed pricing. I was just sharing my experience. About a month ago several sites had the set at 1750-1900. I got lucky I was in the market during that moment. I believe all time TVs was who I got them to pricematch.

Hi Zack,

I was employing a little something I call "humor". smile.gif My post suggested that I was trying to convince myself not to be unhappy with my tv because I paid a lot more for mine than you paid for yours. The 65" F7100 is still $2200 at most stores, so your deal is remarkable.

David
post #2394 of 5013
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Originally Posted by zackariah View Post

David not sure what your getting at. There was a comment about Samsung having fixed pricing. I was just sharing my experience. About a month ago several sites had the set at 1750-1900. I got lucky I was in the market during that moment. I believe all time TVs was who I got them to pricematch.

He's just upset that he paid a ton more $ for the same tv.

Those sites like Abe's of Maine, eastcoast tvs, and all time TV's should never be priced matched unless there is one of their brick and mortar stores in the area with those same low online prices. If you look them up on Yelp they all get 2stars or lower. The deal is, when you order online from them they have a rep call you with a hard up sell. If you don't buy their warranty, your delivery magically gets lost, or the item you ordered is now somehow out of stock.

I say try it every time though. If you find someone stupid enough to price match one of those sites then that's awesome for you.
post #2395 of 5013
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by mgh26 View Post

Here's a few suggestions for you. On your cable box, set it do always output 1080i only.
On the TV go into the Settings Menu for the Picture and set the Sharpness to around 20. Then go into the Picture Options Menu and make sure the Digital Clean View and the MPEG Noise Filter are set to OFF. Next go into the Screen Size menu and select Screen Fit. If the content you are viewing has noise around the border of the TV change this to 16X9 but most brodcasts should be OK at the Screen Fit setting. Some nights are better than others with the new difgital age. It has to do with the cable company shoving so much material through their system that was not possible during the Analog era. We now get so many more provided channels (Cox has around 2000) these days from the cable TV providers but at the cost of picture quality variation. It also has to do with peak usage hours creating bandwiidth limitations that really should not happen but do. Even bad wheather can cause some picture issues. Anyways with using these settings you should get a clear picture that doesn't look like a "clay face" with decent details if your other picture settings are proper. The quality of the picture will still vary from channel to channel and show to show but thats how it is. If you really want to see this TV shine, get a Blu-ray player. I'm loving mine!

+1, Great Advice.
post #2396 of 5013
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by zackariah View Post

I haggled my local best buy and got my 65" for 1749.
Just an update on the rvu all is working well. The remote is a tad slower navigating the guide. To me its worth it. No changing remotes is nice. I can go from netflix to DirecTV to Pandora, YouTube, etc easily. Also I did not notice a difference in the picture quality. On demand and live tv look great.

Wow. biggrin.gif

Congratulations......
post #2397 of 5013
The Last of Us looks simply amazing on this TV. Oh and so does Gears of War Judgment, but Im also partial smile.gif
post #2398 of 5013
how good does the micro dimming work on this set? like when there is a bright object with a dark background.
post #2399 of 5013
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Originally Posted by goldicon12 View Post

how good does the micro dimming work on this set? like when there is a bright object with a dark background.
I can't truly speak to what you're asking. To me, it's not seeing bad, or much negative in that scenario says a lot.

I was seeing negative aspects in darker scenes where the set was going darker, lighter, darker, light on the fly drastically. Changing settings seems to have fixed that though.

Overall, I'm very happy with the set, and it's one of those Sharp made panels. If too plenty of playing with the settings to get to this point though. Enjoyment of this set seems to vary by experience by each owner, and each set.
post #2400 of 5013
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by goldicon12 View Post

How good does the micro dimming work on this set? Like when there is a bright object with a dark background.

First, Micro-Dimming does not work in Movie Mode (thankfully).

The HDTV's processors detect a darker scene and changes the brightness (controls black level), contrast (controls white luminance) and overall backlight (LED light intensity) setting.

Micro-Dimming works in Standard, Natural and Dynamic Modes.

The TV also has Dynamic Contrast, Black Tone, Motion Lighting, HDMI Black Level and Cinema Black that can also automatically effect peak white and black levels.
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