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post #2401 of 4975
Hello. I just got delivery of the 55F7100 yesterday and immediately hung it and adjusted settings to those found online. I have great HD pictures, just beautiful, but I also have horrible nonHD pictures, just awful. Is this to be expected? I'm saddened to think I spent more than my budget for a better TV and got unacceptable viewing on many channels - unfortunately, I do watch several nonHD channels, too. I'm hoping I'm missing a setting or a quick fix somewhere. I think it updated to 1111 last night so I am current.

Any suggestions would be appreciated. I want to love this TV and hate the thought of cumbersome repackaging and shipping back.

Cindy
post #2402 of 4975
unfortunately, I do watch several nonHD channels, too. I'm hoping I'm missing a setting or a quick fix somewhere. I think it updated to 1111 last night so I am current.

I had to do the factory reset some people say is needed after the 1111 update. So that may help. Also, I tinkered with mine in standard mode for a while, then swiched to movie mode and it looks better on the SD channels, fleshtones, and sharpness. I am sacrificing detail in dark sceens to get darker blacks and high contrast with whites. I am not at home or I would post my new settings to try. You will have to try different settings and combinations of all the special features like AMP and dyn. contrast to see what works best. It takes time to change then watch for a while, but it's worth it.
Something worth trying though, is your cable box settings. If you haven't already, go into the box settings and you should find resolution settings, like 480i, 480p, 729p, and 1080i. My picture looks much better when I set the box to only output 1080i (by unchecking the others). Even the 720p high def channels showed a significant improvement. Check various channels at different outputs and see what works best. You should be able to get a resonable SD picture and fantastic HD picture on this TV. Hope this helps.
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Edited by GPtimes2 - 9/7/13 at 7:41am
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[quote name="GPtimes2" url..... I am not at home or I would post my new settings to try. You will have to try different settings and combinations of all the special features like AMP and dyn. contrast to see what works best. It takes time to change then watch for a while, but it's worth it.
Something worth trying though, is your cable box settings....... You should be able to get a resonable SD picture and fantastic HD picture on this TV. Hope this helps.[/quote]

Thanks so much for taking the time to reply. I will check my box settings and play a little bit. If it isn't too much trouble, I would really love to have your settings to try, as well. Again, if it's not too much trouble.

Thanks again.
Cindy
post #2406 of 4975
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Originally Posted by cindyr View Post

[quote name="GPtimes2" url..... I am not at home or I would post my new settings to try. You will have to try different settings and combinations of all the special features like AMP and dyn. contrast to see what works best. It takes time to change then watch for a while, but it's worth it.
Something worth trying though, is your cable box settings....... You should be able to get a resonable SD picture and fantastic HD picture on this TV. Hope this helps.

Thanks so much for taking the time to reply. I will check my box settings and play a little bit. If it isn't too much trouble, I would really love to have your settings to try, as well. Again, if it's not too much trouble.

Thanks again.
Cindy[/quote]
Settings
-Picture Mode - Standard
Backlight - somewhere between 12-14(14 now)
Contrast - 56
Brightness - 45
Sharpness - 39
Color - 56
Tint - G-50. R-50

Advanced Settings
Dynamic contrast - High
Black Tone - Dark
Flesh Tone - 0

Color Space-Custom
Red - R-44. G-52. B-0
Green R-15 G-52. B-0
Blue. R-0. G-8. B-45
Yellow. R-59 G-53 B-0
Cyan. R-10. G-50 B-51
Magenta R-43 G-7. B-43

White Balance
Offset. R-25. G-26. B-26
Gain. R-16. G-25. B-25

Gamma - 0
Expert Pattern - Off
Motion Lighting - Off

Picture Settings
Color Tone-Standard
Digital Clean View-Off
MPEG Noise Filter - Low
Auto Motion Plus - Off
Cinema Black - Low

System Settings
Energy Save - Off
Eco Sensor - Off
post #2407 of 4975
Thread Starter 
WOW...this HDTV is lookin' GOOD with fw. ver. 1111.

DirecTV seems to have less macroblocking, Blu-rays look stunning and the Xbox360 plays really nice.

This may indeed be the firmware to keep and not upgrade.
post #2408 of 4975
I am sorry if this has been asked, but this thread is mega-huge.

I just recently purchased a UN46F7100 (46 inch), and it looks fantastic with games, blu-ray, and 3D; but now my HD channels all look blurry--like really blurry, especially on faces.

I am currently using factory settings with the newest firmware and with U-Verse (set to 1080i). My four year old Sony Bravia and my parents older 240hz Samsung still look crystal clear.

P.S. Is it worth it to get this set professionally calibrated? Also: Why does it not let you change the 3D depth while watching 3D blu-rays?


Thanks,


Jonathan (a TV noob)
post #2409 of 4975
Here are what I have for Movie mode in a mideum lit room. I am still tweeking and haven't checked a dark movie for dark scene detail, but so far the blacks are very deep, the whites bright, color and sharpness detail is very good. It seems strange that panel differences are so drastic. When I try other peoples settings, they come out so far off. Maybe these will work for someone.

Movie mode
Backlight 8
Contrast 100
Brightness 50
Sharpness 80
Color 55
Tint 50/50
Pic Size 16:9
Dynamic contrast Off
Black tone Darkest
Flesh tone 0
RGB only Off
Color space Auto
White balance
10 point Off
Gamma 0
Color tone Warm 2
Digital clean view Auto
MPEG noise filter Off
HDMI Black level Normal
Film mode Off
Auto motion plus Clear
Cinema black Off
post #2410 of 4975
Quote:
Settings
-Picture Mode - Standard
Backlight - somewhere between 12-14(14 now)
Contrast - 56
Brightness - 45
Sharpness - 39
Color - 56
Tint - G-50. R-50

Advanced Settings
Dynamic contrast - High
Black Tone - Dark
Flesh Tone - 0

Color Space-Custom
Red - R-44. G-52. B-0
Green R-15 G-52. B-0
Blue. R-0. G-8. B-45
Yellow. R-59 G-53 B-0
Cyan. R-10. G-50 B-51
Magenta R-43 G-7. B-43

White Balance
Offset. R-25. G-26. B-26
Gain. R-16. G-25. B-25

Gamma - 0
Expert Pattern - Off
Motion Lighting - Off

Picture Settings
Color Tone-Standard
Digital Clean View-Off
MPEG Noise Filter - Low
Auto Motion Plus - Off
Cinema Black - Low

System Settings
Energy Save - Off
Eco Sensor - Off

Thank you, again, for your time. With your help, I feel like I have gotten a decent picture, but it seems the biggest problem is with motion on SD viewing. With movement the pictures blur and are never really clear, always a bit 'soft' or fuzzy. It's noticeable as well with any words scrolling across the top or bottom... the movement of the scroll causes blur.

While this TV has a much, much better HD picture, it fails miserably compared to my cheaper Vizios when it comes to SD viewing.
post #2411 of 4975
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Originally Posted by zackariah View Post

I set up the rvu with my DirecTV last night. The tech and I had to work through it together, she had never set one up before. It was fairly simple and I am happy so far. The only problem is accessing my recorded content. I would think the DVR button would do that. Hope a future update will fix this. It's nice I don't even need the mini genie in my living room anymore. I will continue to update my findings.

Do you mind explaining the process how you did this? Do you have to have a separate ethernet network switch for the DTV network?
post #2412 of 4975
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Originally Posted by PiratesCove View Post

I like 1111 also...I remember that ES7100 update...wink.gif

The motion is good, its a little softer (in a good way) with less artifacts.

Haven't used the Smart Hub yet....

No reset...so far..fingers crossed.


Are you still very happy you updated to 1111? what is your assessment? I am still at 1110 and am considering updating. I am happy with what I have now.
post #2413 of 4975
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jhunter85 View Post

I am sorry if this has been asked, but this thread is mega-huge.

I just recently purchased a UN46F7100 (46 inch), and it looks fantastic with games, blu-ray, and 3D; but now my HD channels all look blurry--like really blurry, especially on faces.

I am currently using factory settings with the newest firmware and with U-Verse (set to 1080i). My four year old Sony Bravia and my parents older 240hz Samsung still look crystal clear.

P.S. Is it worth it to get this set professionally calibrated? Also: Why does it not let you change the 3D depth while watching 3D blu-rays?


Thanks,


Jonathan (a TV noob)
With this set, you really need to play with the settings. I've posted some just a bit earlier, others have as well. If you are not sure you want to do that, then, you can either bit has a calibration bluray to do it with(you're using a disc to help you do it yourself), tools(very expensive), or hire a professional. Experiment with some settings you've seen here, it's fun.
post #2414 of 4975
Anyone enjoying the very vivid football games today? Looking great on my 60"!
post #2415 of 4975
Quote:
Originally Posted by PiratesCove View Post

WOW...this HDTV is lookin' GOOD with fw. ver. 1111.

DirecTV seems to have less macroblocking, Blu-rays look stunning and the Xbox360 plays really nice.

This may indeed be the firmware to keep and not upgrade.
Well I've been playing around with this version and it is the over-all best one out for this TV yet. I finally got my Cox box to work with the Samsung remote perfectly. My Info button was acting like the Previous Channel button instead. Turns out the Samsung Set Top Box auto detected the wrong Model type but the channel and power On/Off worked so I never supected that. If I was going to say anything that I wish this version had was a cure for a BS message when I move the wireless mouse for the first time when using it. This issue has been present since my first firmware update but was NOT present with the 1st release version that came with the TV. Not a big deal at all though. The only other thing I have noticed is that the over-all sharpness of the brodcasted material seems slightly toned down mabye a bit to much since although the picture is still sharp, it did seem slightly sharper to my eyes at the expence of more artifacts/ noise & macroblocking. There must be some happy medimum as some others have complained about their brodcasted image quality that I can relate to. So I guess after a week or so of viewing, I will try another update if and when I see others stating the next or down the road update has provided that. Until then, this is the version I'm going to stay with. Very solid, with NO Power Cyling or those white Boxes showing up on letter box material. Cinema Black seem really good and my Web Browser is all back to normal with a solid wireless connection. biggrin.gif
Edited by mgh26 - 9/8/13 at 1:57pm
post #2416 of 4975
Try these settings "IF" you own the UN55F7100 & Manufactured on June 2013, version TD01 with "1111" firmware. Also check your manufacture date on the back of set, white label.

Calibration settings: UPDATE 9/9/2013
My preference picture settings for the best image reproduction. Settings have been tested for best performance and researched via avsforum.com's (AVS HD 709 Calibration), from videophiles, professionals alike and with Spears and Munsil HD Benchmark Blu-ray (Primary). Try it out.

Mode: Movie

Backlight: 14 (Based on "INFO button/graphic" power usage. I like to set it just a couple of lines under LED TV and not in conventional TV zone). You can only use INFO on "TV Source" and not on HDMI source, i know, odd.

Contrast: 77

Brightness: 37 (Blu-ray - On Movie-Mode), 44 (HD-DVD - On Movie-Mode), 44 (TV - TimeWarnerCable - On Standard-Mode)

Sharpness: 6

Color: 49

Tint: G48/R52

ADV settings

Dynamic Contrast: Low

Black Tone: Off

Flesh Tone: 0

Color Space: Custom

Red: R31, G0, B0

Green: R0, G29, B0

Blue: R0, G0, B35

Yellow: R39, G41, B0

Cyan: R0, G33, B56

Magenta: R34, G3, B37

White Balance

R-Off: 19

G-Off: 21

B-Off: 22

R-Gain: 25

G-Gain: 25

B-Gain: 25

10p White Balance: Off

Gamma: 0

Motion Lighting: Off

Picture Size: "Screen Fit"

Color Tone: Warm2 (Try out on FULL HD video of Iced mountains and snow, shadows should look close to "grey" and not saturated blue).

Digital Clean View: Off

MPEG Noise Filter: Off

HDMI Black Level: Normal

Film Mode: Off

* Auto Motion Plus: Off

Cinema Black Level: Off


*AMP Blur Reduction and Judder are set to 0 because setting either one between 1-10 will give you distortion. If you pop in the Spears and Munsil Blu-ray disc and go to the "Jaggies" chart, you'll see that setting 1 or 10 on Blur Reduction will give you a type of pattern distortion on chart. For Judder, I use AVATAR and 2012 as examples. For instance in AVATAR when Sully is Arial hunting just before the "Great Leonopteryx" appears look at his bow and you'll see distortion even if Judder is set at 1. Same goes for the scene in 2012 where Woody Harrelson is up on the mountain just before the volcano blows and the camera is going around Woody, the antenna is distorting. Setting Judder to 0 gives you no distortion. And there you go. smile.gif

Thought I'd share =)
Edited by Vam724 - 9/9/13 at 1:16am
post #2417 of 4975
am I seriously the only one noticing the purple trails? I guess I should be a professional reviewer because apparently the real professionals suck at their job
post #2418 of 4975
Thanks guys! I got my HD channels looking better. But now I can't seem to figure out how to get my TV to fit my computer desktop. Please help!
post #2419 of 4975
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mgh26 View Post

Well I've been playing around with this version and it is the over-all best one out for this TV yet. I finally got my Cox box to work with the Samsung remote perfectly. My Info button was acting like the Previous Channel button instead. Turns out the Samsung Set Top Box auto detected the wrong Model type but the channel and power On/Off worked so I never supected that. If I was going to say anything that I wish this version had was a cure for a BS message when I move the wireless mouse for the first time when using it. This issue has been present since my first firmware update but was NOT present with the 1st release version that came with the TV. Not a big deal at all though. The only other thing I have noticed is that the over-all sharpness of the brodcasted material seems slightly toned down mabye a bit to much since although the picture is still sharp, it did seem slightly sharper to my eyes at the expence of more artifacts/ noise & macroblocking. There must be some happy medimum as some others have complained about their brodcasted image quality that I can relate to. So I guess after a week or so of viewing, I will try another update if and when I see others stating the next or down the road update has provided that. Until then, this is the version I'm going to stay with. Very solid, with NO Power Cyling or those white Boxes showing up on letter box material. Cinema Black seem really good and my Web Browser is all back to normal with a solid wireless connection. biggrin.gif

Cool...finally time to enjoy the F7100, in all is glory.
post #2420 of 4975
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by travelerj View Post

Are you still very happy you updated to 1111? what is your assessment? I am still at 1110 and am considering updating. I am happy with what I have now.

Definitely worth updating...very solid.
post #2421 of 4975
New to the thread but have read all 81 pages to keep up with all you experts on this TV. I purchased it in June 2013 and is happy with the overall PQ. Only issue has been the random "power off" in the previous firmware 1105. Then I updated to 1110 and seems to be stable until last night and it "power off" again. It never reboot like it did in fw1105. It was a total power off and had to turn the tv back on. My DISH box stayed on the entire time. Can't figure out why it is doing this. So I updated to 1111 to see if it helps. Have my fingers crossed.
post #2422 of 4975
I am not a gamer so lag doesn't bother me but I am assuming as far as picture quality that everyone who has this set appears to be happy?Just looking to get some input.I was going to go with another set but the price jumped over the weekend by about 350 dollars so I am thinking of getting this instead.The only thing that I was worried about is the judder that appeared in the sky scene of the demo.According to the Samsung rep that was there he said it was not the tv but the source instead.
post #2423 of 4975
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by low_ball_88 View Post

New to the thread but have read all 81 pages to keep up with all you experts on this TV. I purchased it in June 2013 and is happy with the overall PQ. Only issue has been the random "power off" in the previous firmware 1105. Then I updated to 1110 and seems to be stable until last night and it "power off" again. It never reboot like it did in fw1105. It was a total power off and had to turn the tv back on. My DISH box stayed on the entire time. Can't figure out why it is doing this. So I updated to 1111 to see if it helps. Have my fingers crossed.

I hope fw. ver. 1111 eliminated the power cycle for good.
post #2424 of 4975
Anyone know why im getting some frame lag during gaming? What settings are you guys using? (Pirates cove?)
post #2425 of 4975
Update: Something I noticed or noticed late AFTER 1111 firmware update. Movie and Standard modes are flash lighting prone. If you own it, load OBLIVION Bluray and you will notice this "flash lighting" in opening titles. After you upgrade to 1111 and with proper calibration on "White Balance" #s between 19-24 on R,G,B offsets... in any mode, flash lighting will be solved. Oh one more thing... I used to have "Cinema Black" on medium and I believe with the 1111 update the "Cinema Black" was tweaked because it appeared as if I had it on High. I lowered this option to Low when I was watching the latest episode of Breaking Bad (scene where Hank meets with Saul's security guard at hotel room, the lighting was flashing on and off. Discovered because Cinema Black was on medium.


*Try this "IF" you own the UN55F7100 & Manufactured on June 2013, version TD01 with "1111" firmware. Also check your manufacture date on the back of set, white label.
post #2426 of 4975
Does anyone know how to get the screen to match the size as my PC desktop? This wasn't an issue with my last TV--so I am at a loss.
post #2427 of 4975
Just picked up the 55F7100. Looks great on the wall.
It appears the only two modes that give anything decent are Standard and Movie.

In Standard, I'm disappointed in the micro dimming. It's a nice idea and I was rather excited about it but in reality it's just annoying. The bright/dark adjustments are simply far too obvious in many scenes and just cause a distraction. Has anyone been able to tweak the settings so that the micro dimming is less "in your face"?

In Movie mode the picture is very good but at night the blacks are either crushed (HDMI Black Level = Low) or just too grey (HDMI Black Level=Normal). I didn't tweak with much other that to turn off Dynamic Contrast.

Any thoughts on getting the best picture?

Also, my TV says Firmware 1103. Should I upgrade?

Thanks!
post #2428 of 4975
I purchased a un60f7100 about 2 weeks ago it had bad clouding and 3d had a lot of crosstalk. The gaming on it was perfect but i exchanged it in hopes of getting a better set. This new one has less clouding but 3d seems even worse then before and now when i use it for gaming there is definitely some input lag that was not on the previous set both were using hdmi 1 and game mode on they both were HH01 also could the input lag be worse from the 1111 update(not sure if old set had 1111 or 1110) or would it really be this big of a difference just from a different set?
post #2429 of 4975
Anyone know the return or replace policy on Samsungs? I just got mine just over a month ago and Best Buy said they have a 15 day return policy? I just have some bad clouding in the upper left corner and it's bothering me whenever a dark scene comes up. I love the TV besides that but just want to replace it with the same TV and hope I don't get the same problem.

Also if you guys think it's worth returning for clouding? It's just only one spot but it's pretty big in the upper left corner.
post #2430 of 4975
Your black level needs to be on NORMAL, or you will lose a ton of detail in blacks and as it appears will crush it. Also tweak your "White Balance."
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