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Originally Posted by RunOfTheDill View Post
 

 

 

Just to get this straight, I have used someones custom settings in here in standard mode but there is a difference between standard, dynamic, etc with them all doing different things?  Maybe I should consider a dynamic setup to switch to while watching sports.

 

I just like dynamic because so much brighter and vivid colors.  It's the only time I use it.  But even watching in standard mode, I haven't noticed some of the problems you say with sports.  So I don't know.  

 

I do know that I spent a long time tweaking my settings before I found something that looked really good to me (using xb1 calibration).  So maybe there is just some settings you can still mess with.

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How is the 7100's universal remote? I'm going to see what kind of deal I can swing with BB and I'm considering a Harmony remote. But if the Samsungs remote works well I might just go for the wireless keyboard and some other accessory.
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Originally Posted by Closet Geek View Post

How is the 7100's universal remote? I'm going to see what kind of deal I can swing with BB and I'm considering a Harmony remote. But if the Samsungs remote works well I might just go for the wireless keyboard and some other accessory.

Well I'll say that it takes some getting used to, but after 4 days it's getting better. Still haven't figured out how to control the volume on my Pioneer AV receiver. All the lit says it CAN control any device connected to it using the universal setup,... but this one function is eluding me! Changing the size of the virtual remote from normal to large was a big help for me! The shorthand strokes for numbers using the pad,... very interesting. 

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Quick question, What's the best keyboard for this model?

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Hey y'all! New to the AVSForum and to LED LCD TVs. Previous tv was a 50" Sony XSRD from 2005 on it's second bulb. I've been stalking the 55" 7100 since it's introduction comparing it to various models from LG and Vizio but never being able to pull the trigger. It just never seemed like the right time to buy.
Well, this past weekend we went to Best Buy to browse and look around and saw that they had the 55" 7100 on sale for $1299. The lowest price that we had seen it since it came out. Realizing it was too good a deal to pass up we decided to get it. The salesman at Best Buy told us they didn't have any in stock, nor could they order any. We were bummed. We decided to check out Sears right down the road. Sears didn't have the 55" either but they said they could order it. They did however have the 60" for $1599. I couldn't pass it up.
We brought he tv home hooked it up and waited for it to acclimate to room temperature as per the salesman's advice. Whilst that was going on I found these forums. Let me first say that the amount of knowledge and advice in this thread is amazing! BUT, as I am reading I'm coming across all these stories of bad panels with flash lighting, clouding, and banding. (I had to take a crash course to see what all these terms meant LOL) I started to dread what I might find when I turned this display on for the first time.
After setting it up and figuring out the HDMI-CEC communication issue with my Yamaha AVR, we put it through it's paces. To my shock and surprise, I have yet to notice any flash lighting, clouding, banding or other flaws in it.
It appears that we may have won the "Samsung Panel Lottery" (another term I learned from this thread wink.gif ) We immediately put in Avatar 3D and were blown away!
I have it on the media center that my XSRD was on, but I'm looking forward to mounting this monster above my fireplace. I already purchased a Cyron LED light strip to bias light it and that seems to make the blacks blacker and the colors pop more! Sorry for the wall of text. I'm just excited about this new tv!
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Originally Posted by EricJrSax View Post

Well I'll say that it takes some getting used to, but after 4 days it's getting better. Still haven't figured out how to control the volume on my Pioneer AV receiver. All the lit says it CAN control any device connected to it using the universal setup,... but this one function is eluding me! Changing the size of the virtual remote from normal to large was a big help for me! The shorthand strokes for numbers using the pad,... very interesting. 

Thanks for the reply. I'll be pairing with my DTV as well as my Denon AVR (or at least trying to). I'm actually in BB's parking lot now after completing my purchase of my 65". To compete with Amazon they threw in the Sammy wireless keyboard and Sammy 3D BD player. For less than a quarter including tax I feel pretty good about the deal.

I should add that I don't care a lot about 3D but an upgraded player from my PS3 (new-wise) that should have seamless function with the remote was attractive. And the keyboard is definitely a plus as long as it works.
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Originally Posted by Closet Geek View Post


Thanks for the reply. I'll be pairing with my DTV as well as my Denon AVR (or at least trying to). I'm actually in BB's parking lot now after completing my purchase of my 65". To compete with Amazon they threw in the Sammy wireless keyboard and Sammy 3D BD player. For less than a quarter including tax I feel pretty good about the deal.

I should add that I don't care a lot about 3D but an upgraded player from my PS3 (new-wise) that should have seamless function with the remote was attractive. And the keyboard is definitely a plus as long as it works.

What keyboard? I'm thinking about that myself. Was the Player the 5900? That's the one most are advising us new 7100 owners to get. Personally, I don't see much sense in getting either of the F6XXX or F7XXX models,... according to everything I've read, the only thing they bring to the table beyond the F5900 is some type of 4X converting, or upscaling is what I believe they call it. Well that's all I can see, but I'm very very new to this stuff.

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Hmm.. Is it the 60 incher? I did put up a post previously about issues with clouding and flashlighting, complete with pics etc. I had it changed once, and subsequently they replaced the panel inside to no avail. I got a refund and now I own the sony 55w904a. It comes with it's own issues but much less serious with very very little flashlighting and no clouding. Not sure how leaving it at 7 for a couple of weeks would help unless he's trying to get you to miss the return window

Yes, the 60 inch.  Here's the latest...I decided to exchange it (amazon) for the same model hoping I'll get lucky and get a good one as some have.  Got on chat with amazon and said I wanted to exchange for same model but would they honor the price I originally paid which was 1599 (black Friday deal).  TV is now selling for 1898.  He asked was I having a problem or I just wanted another TV....duh...I said big problem...clouding/flashlighting in all four corners and middle bottom.  He said they would honor the 1599 price.  When he checked there were none in stock so he asked if I wanted something comparable.  I had him check and he offered me the Vizio 65 inch M series for the same 1599 price.  That tv is selling for 1750.  I asked if I have a problem with the vizio and want to try the Samsung again would I still pay the 1599?  He said yes.  I had a copy of the chat transcript e-mailed to me just in case.  I figure what do I have to lose...if the vizio is bad I can try the Samsung again, or LG. etc.  Amazon's customer support has always been top notch as far as I'm concerned.  Getting the vizio on Thursday...keeping my fingers crossed.

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BamaTim, what panel number did you get? And what Yamaha AVR are you hooked up to? I will be hooking mine up to my Yamaha AVR on Sunday.
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Originally Posted by jb2c View Post

BamaTim, what panel number did you get? And what Yamaha AVR are you hooked up to? I will be hooking mine up to my Yamaha AVR on Sunday.

We got HH01. And our Yamaha is Rx-V673.
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Originally Posted by EricJrSax View Post

What keyboard? I'm thinking about that myself. Was the Player the 5900? That's the one most are advising us new 7100 owners to get. Personally, I don't see much sense in getting either of the F6XXX or F7XXX models,... according to everything I've read, the only thing they bring to the table beyond the F5900 is some type of 4X converting, or upscaling is what I believe they call it. Well that's all I can see, but I'm very very new to this stuff.

It's the Samsung wireless keyboard. However, I couldn't tell you about the quality or anything as I've never used it. Going in I actually had a Logitech in mind. I just expect a decent amount of web searches and we won't want to bother with a remote. And yes, it was the 5900 player. There wasn't really a discussion about it (higher or different brands even). I simply asked what he could do to offset the tax and that's what he came back with. I have been running a PS3 and still might (for BD's), i don't know yet. I just like the idea of having something to play 3D should we decided to view one on a rare whim and new tech that I suspect is at least as good as my PS3. I don't care about the players other features or any 4k converting.
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Originally Posted by srg914 View Post

Yes, the 60 inch.  Here's the latest...I decided to exchange it (amazon) for the same model hoping I'll get lucky and get a good one as some have.  Got on chat with amazon and said I wanted to exchange for same model but would they honor the price I originally paid which was 1599 (black Friday deal).  TV is now selling for 1898.  He asked was I having a problem or I just wanted another TV....duh...I said big problem...clouding/flashlighting in all four corners and middle bottom.  He said they would honor the 1599 price.  When he checked there were none in stock so he asked if I wanted something comparable.  I had him check and he offered me the Vizio 65 inch M series for the same 1599 price.  That tv is selling for 1750.  I asked if I have a problem with the vizio and want to try the Samsung again would I still pay the 1599?  He said yes.  I had a copy of the chat transcript e-mailed to me just in case.  I figure what do I have to lose...if the vizio is bad I can try the Samsung again, or LG. etc.  Amazon's customer support has always been top notch as far as I'm concerned.  Getting the vizio on Thursday...keeping my fingers crossed.

That's great. Hopefully even if you have to go back to the sammy again, the new stock could be from a better batch of TVs which hopefully would be an improvement over the last one.
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Does anybody have a an oppo bpd-103d, Halite, or the Darbee Darblet hooked up to their Samsung F7100? I just purchased Halite which contains the Darbee chip and provides the same benifets as oppo 103d. I like the sublte enhancements alot but the reds hue seem darker. Im not a calibration expert so if anyone has a Darbee in their setup please share your picture settings with me. I am basically using Pirates settings right now.
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Originally Posted by BamaTim View Post

Let me first say that the amount of knowledge and advice in this thread is amazing! BUT, as I am reading I'm coming across all these stories of bad panels with flash lighting, clouding, and banding. (I had to take a crash course to see what all these terms meant LOL) I started to dread what I might find when I turned this display on for the first time.

I have it on the media center that my XSRD was on, but I'm looking forward to mounting this monster above my fireplace. I already purchased a Cyron LED light strip to bias light it and that seems to make the blacks blacker and the colors pop more! Sorry for the wall of text. I'm just excited about this new tv!
Funny! I ordered my f7100 a few weeks ago and it was due to arrive tuesday(which it did), but on Sunday, I decided to read this entire thread. Previously I had only read random pages after seeing one of these in person and doing some other research. Seemed like a good tv compared to others priced even higher, but man, after reading the entire thread I started wondering what I was getting myself into. TV buying should not be this stressful.! Even though there are probably an equal number of "mine is fine" posts, the negative ones just always stick out more and I think it made me paranoid. Haven't had much time to play with mine, but I took a lot of notes on this thread and hopefully can do some calibrating this weekend (power out all day because of Dallas ice storm).

Funny about SXRD stand, I have the same one. Failed 55sxrd a2000 to failed 60nx720 to 65f7100 (this one almost didn't fit!).
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Originally Posted by BamaTim View Post

We got HH01. And our Yamaha is Rx-V673.

Mine is an HH01 as well. Running to a RX-V573. Would be interesting to compare notes. I still need to get mine mounted on the wall and turn it on.
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DTS and Dolby Digital output from digital optical output? Someone asked about this earlier but I don't think anyone really answered. I am thinking of doing same thing that the poster of this question was going to do-hook up this TV to a Vizio 5.1 soundbar. I bought my parents one of these soundbars for their several year old LG TV and I was impressed. It has digital optical, digital coaxial, analog RCA, 3.5 mini jack and Bluetooth inputs. I didn't know whether their tv would output DD or DTS over the digital optical since this seems like feature that many TV won't do due to copyright issues. So I hooked up the dvd directly to soundbar using digital coaxial and connect TV via digital optical. the soundbar has remote switching of inputs is no big deal. My understanding of Samsung is that any content coming from internal tuners (ATSC or Qam) or the internet apps will provide DTS or DD output from optical jack if original content was in DTS or DD. But I am not so sure about a source connected via HDMI, USB, or DNLA connected devices? Several have spoken about using HDMI/ARC, but this soundbar does NOT have HDMI input so that is not option. The local store (sells samsungs only) said that the sonos rep was in recently and was excited cause he said samsungs would output DTS/DD-perhaps new feature? But I have a rep(owners son who seems knowledgeable) checking directly with Samsung rep. was hoping someone on here could tell me the answer by testing the digital optical output by hooking it into a receiver that lights up to show what source material is.
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Originally Posted by hammerash View Post

DTS and Dolby Digital output from digital optical output? Someone asked about this earlier but I don't think anyone really answered. I am thinking of doing same thing that the poster of this question was going to do-hook up this TV to a Vizio 5.1 soundbar. I bought my parents one of these soundbars for their several year old LG TV and I was impressed. It has digital optical, digital coaxial, analog RCA, 3.5 mini jack and Bluetooth inputs. I didn't know whether their tv would output DD or DTS over the digital optical since this seems like feature that many TV won't do due to copyright issues. So I hooked up the dvd directly to soundbar using digital coaxial and connect TV via digital optical. the soundbar has remote switching of inputs is no big deal. My understanding of Samsung is that any content coming from internal tuners (ATSC or Qam) or the internet apps will provide DTS or DD output from optical jack if original content was in DTS or DD. But I am not so sure about a source connected via HDMI, USB, or DNLA connected devices? Several have spoken about using HDMI/ARC, but this soundbar does NOT have HDMI input so that is not option. The local store (sells samsungs only) said that the sonos rep was in recently and was excited cause he said samsungs would output DTS/DD-perhaps new feature? But I have a rep(owners son who seems knowledgeable) checking directly with Samsung rep. was hoping someone on here could tell me the answer by testing the digital optical output by hooking it into a receiver that lights up to show what source material is.


I could not get HDMI (ARC) or Optical to work on 5.1 sound from external sources (FIOS box and HTPC)

I am using optical for Media Hub - works great. But externals I had to run through the AVR
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Are you guys using each individual input or an HDMI switcher?

Also, upon delivery, how long did you let the tv sit (to adjust to room temperature)before turning it on?
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I just had a UN60F7050 delivered from Costco and after some complications with my VESA screws being either too long or too short, I got the thing mounted. Am I the only one who freaked out at the amount of legal and privacy agreements that they expect us to agree to when turning it on for the first time? I actually read/skimmed through most of it and declined quite a bit of it. Did you guys/girls agree to everything or decline things, as I did?
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Originally Posted by Closet Geek View Post

Are you guys using each individual input or an HDMI switcher?

Also, upon delivery, how long did you let the tv sit (to adjust to room temperature)before turning it on?



I just have one HDMI going to the tv. My receiver does the switching between cable/PS3 (which does double duty as 3D Bku Ray)/ XBOX 360/ and Wii.
We let the tv sit for about 2-3 hours. Simply because after we got it all hooked up, we had to take our Aussie to obedience school.
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I love the F7100! It does seem to be real sensitive to content displayed. Watching 1080p blu-ray content is fantastic, but cable (720p/1080i) content seems to have some artificial sharpening or noise reduction going on behind the scenes. While playing Uncharted and the last of us it would look like a non-in game engine soft focus that would slowly sharpen. Watching Prometheus on cable faces had has real sharp complexions making everyone look like they had severe acne, but popped in blu-ray and none of that. Any experience with this occurance?
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Originally Posted by BamaTim View Post

I just have one HDMI going to the tv. My receiver does the switching between cable/PS3 (which does double duty as 3D Bku Ray)/ XBOX 360/ and Wii.
We let the tv sit for about 2-3 hours. Simply because after we got it all hooked up, we had to take our Aussie to obedience school.

Thanks for the response. I probably should have clarified my thoughts as I'll be running everything through my Denon AVR as well. However, I was contemplating that it would be also be nice if I didn't always have to turn the receiver on (despite the fact that the tv will be in a pseudo-dedicated "theater" room). In my family room I have DTV and a BD player run thru a switcher. It's nice because DTV is the main input and if the BD is turned on it automatically switches using the same HDMI input. I'd like for my family to be able to turn the tv on and just watch tv and if they want to play a game or watch a BD (not necessarily thru the theater system) to have the input automatically switch (making it easier for them). But also have the theater set up for true movie watching. I just wanted to get a feel for what others are doing.
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On another thought, I have a question. While I was making my purchase yesterday (tv has to be shipped from KY for a future delivery date btw), I was watching one of the Samsung loops and it flashed the scene of Denzel Washington walking out as looking up (can't recall movie title right now) and it had that "soap opera" effect look but not as strongly. Despite the I guess, distraction, of the effect, it picture looked very good and it made me wonder....what is HD supposed to look like? An odd question at this point to be sure but I was thinking, should the "HD" image be not so much the SOE but the fringe of HD as we know it and the SOE? It's tough since I don't have the tv yet so I may r way off base but has anyone else toyed with this look?
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Originally Posted by Brettzies View Post

Funny! I ordered my f7100 a few weeks ago and it was due to arrive tuesday(which it did), but on Sunday, I decided to read this entire thread. Previously I had only read random pages after seeing one of these in person and doing some other research. Seemed like a good tv compared to others priced even higher, but man, after reading the entire thread I started wondering what I was getting myself into. TV buying should not be this stressful.! Even though there are probably an equal number of "mine is fine" posts, the negative ones just always stick out more and I think it made me paranoid. Haven't had much time to play with mine, but I took a lot of notes on this thread and hopefully can do some calibrating this weekend (power out all day because of Dallas ice storm).

Brettzies, don't sweat it! There is, in my opinion, a strong negative bias on these threads. People who like their tv watch it, people with issues, complaints, or questions post here. smile.gif
We bought our 65F7100 in August and it's been very good. As Dr. Shankenstein notes below, the sets do seem to be very sensitive to content. I think this throws many people off and makes them suspect a problem. For example, our tv has some minor flashlighting in the corners. The only time i notice it, though, is when a tv program fades to black during the pause before a commercial starts. That's it. You can't see it during programming, even dark scenes. I'm not sure I would even notice it then if it weren't for my reading this thread.

But also as the good Doctor mentions, put in a blu-ray and all is very well.
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Originally Posted by Dr.Shankenstein View Post

I love the F7100! It does seem to be real sensitive to content displayed. Watching 1080p blu-ray content is fantastic, but cable (720p/1080i) content seems to have some artificial sharpening or noise reduction going on behind the scenes. While playing Uncharted and the last of us it would look like a non-in game engine soft focus that would slowly sharpen. Watching Prometheus on cable faces had has real sharp complexions making everyone look like they had severe acne, but popped in blu-ray and none of that. Any experience with this occurance?

Good luck and enjoy your tv (when you have power).

David
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Originally Posted by frankie90 View Post
 

 

I'm not sure why HDMI Black Level is not available for you to be honest... i'd check again now that you have an HDMI set up.

 

Hazy/snowy... I know setting the HDMI Black Level to low solved the hazy picture issue for me. Could also be a brightness issue, or possibly

Digital Clean View/MPEG Noise Filter options being off. Try those options if you still don't have the Black Level option. Maybe someone else can help you out here too with some more know-how, as i'm still new to the whole TV set up deal.

 

You should also note that I calibrated using a blu-ray player (Xbox One).

I checked with HDMI setup , but Black level option is still unavailable.

Haze/snow issue now is on side angle viewing, when I watch from approx. 40 degree angle after I changed to hdmi (probably expected?)  I will try other options you suggested and see if that helps.

Another issue I am facing now is watching a program that's happening in studio, like news...the face of people show up very bad skin tone (illuminated) , any suggestions around that?

 

Thanks a lot for the inputs.

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I was just checking for stuck pixels using full color backgrounds. Everything was perfect until the yellow one. There's a dark area to the left of center. The TV seems excellent, otherwise. Should I stick with it for a few days to see if it becomes unstuck?
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OK I just got the 55" F7100 and need some coaching help please.

1) How do I get to the advanced picture options? I don't see them?

* EDIT * - fount it thanks!

I set the basic settings using PirateCoves post , but found the backlight was too high for me, I lowered it to 10 from 14.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1470900/official-samsung-unxxf7100-owners-thread/3030#post_23936887

2) I assume to use stereo DTS sound I will need to have my sound system connected?
Right now its unhooked, and the settings are grayed out.

3) Firmware version is v1111. If I upgrade this will I need to reset everything including my cable provider, picture setting ect?
What is the firmware procedure yu guys have used?

Is this the correct manual?

http://www.samsung.com/nz/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UA55F7100AMXRD-support

Sorry if all this has been asked before, I read many pages here but could not find all the info to put it together.
Thanks!
Edited by msny - 12/7/13 at 1:02pm
post #3508 of 4975
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Originally Posted by Brettzies View Post

Funny! I ordered my f7100 a few weeks ago and it was due to arrive tuesday(which it did), but on Sunday, I decided to read this entire thread. Previously I had only read random pages after seeing one of these in person and doing some other research. Seemed like a good tv compared to others priced even higher, but man, after reading the entire thread I started wondering what I was getting myself into. TV buying should not be this stressful.! Even though there are probably an equal number of "mine is fine" posts, the negative ones just always stick out more and I think it made me paranoid. Haven't had much time to play with mine, but I took a lot of notes on this thread and hopefully can do some calibrating this weekend (power out all day because of Dallas ice storm).

Funny about SXRD stand, I have the same one. Failed 55sxrd a2000 to failed 60nx720 to 65f7100 (this one almost didn't fit!).

Congratulations on reading the entire thread!smile.gif I agree with David that the thread is skewed with posts from people having difficulties with their TVs. The TV is not perfect, even if you have a good one. The clouding problems I can see during breaks between scenes, but I have never noticed them while watching content, even during dark scenes. Nevertheless, in spite of its imperfect microdimming (which has improved with firmware updates), after six months of ownership, the picture quality keeps blowing me away.

Odds are pretty good that any problems you have can be easily solved by making some adjustments. I recall one setting, if you set it to normal, the picture quality looks all washed out, but if you set it to Dark, the picture quality is amazing. Pirate thinks that Samsung got Normal and Dark confused perhaps. Don't be afraid to experiment or ask questions here. Just try changing one setting at a time so you can always go back if you don't like it. Best of luck to you.
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Hello all new to forum but have read most of this thread... My problem is I have tried many of the settings previously posted and no matter what in movie mode if I have brightness set above 33 picture looks washed out. I checked the no.1 expert pattern and I'm losing dark greys at this low level of brightness. Any suggestions or input would be greatly appreciated.
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Anyone seen an issue with one of these where many HDMI sources don't work? Some sources work fine (PS3, XBox 360), some sources the TV recognizes as 1080P but just displays a black screen (Harman Kardon AVR), and some sources the TV recognizes an HDMI cable is plugged in but produces a "No Signal" warning (everything else). All of these sources work perfectly when connected to my circa-2008 Samsung LCD. I suspect it's toast and will have to return it. It was like this right out of the box.

Tried different cables, tried updating to the latest firmware, tried a factory reset. Can't really think of anything else to do.
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