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post #211 of 314
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Originally Posted by yelnatsch517 View Post

Any reason why you would think this? It is straight lossless LPCM to the external DAC through USB.
JRiver is just software. How you use it in conjunction with hardware is up to the individual.

The key being that JRiver has parametric EQ and 64 bit native convolution engine, or you can use plugins like Audiolense for FIR filter room correction.
This is something impossible with passive crossovers.

Trust me, I'd consider myself a perfectionist when it comes to these things. If JRiver wasn't capable of the highest quality sound, I wouldn't even bother mentioning it.
The DAC that you use will determine the SQ of your system. Before that, everything is pure digital so nothing, absolutely nothing, is lost.
And, like I said, if someone is going to spend a few hundred or thousand dollars on crossover components, I'd personally recommend investing in a high quality DAC instead, like the Mytek 8X192.
You could even build DIY DAC, ie. Twisted Pear Audio Buffalo III.

For active crossover duty, you'd need more channels so something like the Orion 32 channel DAC could work, but the THD being only -98dB is a little troubling for me, again only because I'm a perfectionist.
I would prefer something in the -110dB range, which I have yet to find.

Sorry bassaddict for being offtopic.

I did not realize that the JRiver thing was actually just software, nor did I realize that the JRiver software is capable of reproducing Bluray quality sound. Wow that is really neat, and for only $50 that seems like a good deal.
Can you tell me what would be the optimal hardware to use with the JRiver? Is a htpc the best option? If so, how can you get the absolute best quality sound from it? I would imagine that you would need a really good sound card.
I see that you mentioned using a DAC. I was not aware that their were any multi channel DAC's available? I have only seen stereo DAC's. Is a DAC also needed in conjunction with a HTPC that uses a good sound card? I currently have
a Sony BDP-s390 bluray player that I use for my bluray playback. I would love to move over to something like this JRIver software, but I don't know much about the hardware side of things, or how to make the hardware and software combine
to be equal or greater than the performance of my Sony. Any suggestions?
post #212 of 314
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Any suggestions?

Yeah, start your own thread. No offense Marty but you've been all over the forums side tracking threads. It appears that you just need to open your own mega question thread where you can consolidate all your questions in one place. wink.gif
post #213 of 314
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Yeah, start your own thread. No offense Marty but you've been all over the forums side tracking threads. It appears that you just need to open your own mega question thread where you can consolidate all your questions in one place. wink.gif

+1. Sorry Marty, but you really need to read more before asking questions and/ or open your own thread. "Im lazy" is not an excuse. You have a lot of good questions but you're pooping all over the place, for lack of a better term.

Meant as friendly advice. You're always very positive with your opinions an questions.
post #214 of 314
These bad boys up and running yet?
post #215 of 314
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Originally Posted by brian6751 View Post

+1. Sorry Marty, but you really need to read more before asking questions and/ or open your own thread. "Im lazy" is not an excuse. You have a lot of good questions but you're pooping all over the place, for lack of a better term.

Meant as friendly advice. You're always very positive with your opinions an questions.


My apologies to the OP..

I am sorry.
post #216 of 314
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Originally Posted by bhazard View Post

These bad boys up and running yet?

Yeah BA, we're waiting to hear what you think.
post #217 of 314
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Originally Posted by mtg90 View Post

Yeah BA, we're waiting to hear what you think.

+100 - you holding out on us? biggrin.gif
post #218 of 314
Omg. He must have gone into some kind of astonishment comatose!!!!!!
post #219 of 314
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Omg. He must have gone into some kind of astonishment comatose!!!!!!

He's been listening nonstop and hasn't pulled himself away yet.

I went to see Star Trek the other night, and my home theater sounds way better than the movie theater now with these SEOS speakers. I have no doubt BA's is even better.
post #220 of 314
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Sorry for keeping everyone in suspense. Had some bad news. My sister's mother in law passed away in a car accident, so needless to say some things got put on hold.

I will be working on them tonight with plans for finalization tomorrow. I am off tomorrow so I can spend the day playing with positioning and eq settings.

Stay tuned. smile.gif
post #221 of 314
Best of luck, .... family first.
post #222 of 314
sorry to hear that. awful news
post #223 of 314
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Best of luck, .... family first.

Agreed, best wishes.
post #224 of 314
Sorry to hear about your loss BA. My condolences to you and your family.
post #225 of 314
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Thanks guys. They were good friends of our family and was a tough blow. The great thing is it's only a temporary separation. smile.gif

On a happier note, I'm really stoked to be in the final stages of this project.
Edited by bass addict - 5/28/13 at 1:25pm
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The great thing is it's only a temporary separation. smile.gif

She believed in God? Well that's a relief!

Sorry for your temporary loss.
post #227 of 314
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She believed in God? Well that's a relief!

Sorry for your temporary loss.

agreed, these are the times when the only thing that can make us feel better is our faith. Our thoughts and prayers Travis.
post #228 of 314
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She believed in God? Well that's a relief!

Sorry for your temporary loss.

Ones belief on whether there is or isn't a God doesn't change the fact there is. smile.gif

I agree, Jake. My mother committed suicide a couple years ago and if it wasn't for my belief, I probably would have gone off the deep end.
post #229 of 314
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Just to prove I'm still moving forward.

I screwed the xovers on the TD6's to the sides seeing as that was the only way they would fit. Tight squeeze getting those guys in there and trying to gumby my drill in to screw them in.





Seeing as the TD15's had plenty of room on the bottom, I chose to velcro them for a couple reasons. First it would allow them to be removed for some strange reason, and second I figured it would help to to protect them from vibrations.



Cabs stuffed, wired, and ready for goodies.



TD15's all mounted and ready for a new home



And the happy family



Heights being placed and ready for final mounting

post #230 of 314
Looking good!

I was a little worried about those TD6 crossover boards, looks like I made them just small enough. I am glad I did not round up to 5" from 4.75" on that woofer board. biggrin.gif
post #231 of 314
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I am glad I did not round up to 5" from 4.75" on that woofer board. biggrin.gif

LOL. Nothing a dremel couldn't fix. cool.gif

I can't thank you enough again. I can build cab's and wire, but I wouldn't have a very good sounding speaker without your mad scientist xover skills. Very grateful for the time you invested in making this build happen.
post #232 of 314
Don't thank me yet, you haven't even heard how they sound! What if you hate them? eek.gifwink.gif



Now king MTG commands you to lightly stuff the upper portion of the TD6 enclosure with polyfill. biggrin.gif

They look a little light on dampening material, it should be ok if you cover the crossovers with it.
post #233 of 314
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Don't thank me yet, you haven't even heard how they sound! What if you hate them? eek.gifwink.gif

That happens I'm bolting the door to the theater shut and selling the house with one less room. biggrin.gif
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They look a little light on dampening material, it should be ok if you cover the crossovers with it.

I thought using polyfill in a ported enclosure would be a bad thing as it lowered the FS thus screwing with the frequency. I do have 1" duct liner on the entire back of the enclosure.

Hopefully covering the xover with polyfill isn't bad as my TD15's are completely stuffed and I'm sure the xovers are covered up fairly good.
post #234 of 314
Keeping it away from the ports and leaving adequate room around the woofers should keep any LF losses to a minimum. That is why I said lightly stuff the top.
post #235 of 314
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Originally Posted by mtg90 View Post

Keeping it away from the ports and leaving adequate room around the woofers should keep any LF losses to a minimum. That is why I said lightly stuff the top.

Gotcha. I'll look into tossing a little bit of stuffing in there for good measure. smile.gif
post #236 of 314
They look absolutely great! But the real question is how do they sound?
post #237 of 314
They look awesome,Travis! I've been slowly sneaking in the idea to the wife of picking up some of Chop's woofs to play with. biggrin.gif

Looking forward to hearing your thoughts on the sound for sure. cool.gif
post #238 of 314
awesome wall o' sound!!!

they look great. great job. i cannot wait to read what you think as well. you wont need to A/B them with the Axioms. the difference will be immediately apparent cool.gif
post #239 of 314
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Originally Posted by brian6751 View Post

awesome wall o' sound!!!

they look great. great job. i cannot wait to read what you think as well. you wont need to A/B them with the Axioms. the difference will be immediately apparent cool.gif

Agreed, as a former Axiom owner I can tell you that after you fire up the new speakers you will never hook up the Axioms again. Great job, can't wait to hear your impressions.
post #240 of 314
To see these take shape makes me so happy, yet so sad...j/k, I'm happy for you and these turned out great! I'm sure you will love them.
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