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post #61 of 290
I just ordered my 727 two days ago and can't wait to give it a try. I picked up the Definitive ProCinema 800 set up plus 2 extra 800 monitors for a sweet 7.1 at a local pawn shop for $550 so I'm really excited to see how this all performs. The last time I had any kind of audio system was the stuff I bought in Japan as a Marine 15 years ago... (Kenwood VR Receiver with Yamaha speakers) - so hopefully this set up trumps that!

I was really torn with the Pioneer set up but I couldn't believe the bells and whistles that you get with the Onkyo for the price...
post #62 of 290
Hi, just purchased a 626 for use in an actual 60' theater. The theater and Bluray work great through Zone 1, I do not have anything plugged into the analog inputs for Zone 2, but all I'm trying to do is to play the Bluray through Zone 1 and the regular Tuner Radio input through Zone 2. Everything I've seen thus far says that that is possible, but whenever I try to do it, I cannot tune the radio through Zone 2, nor can I change the volume on Zone 2 and whenever I try to do so, a message that says "Pwrd Z2 NotAct" shows up.

I've only seen in ONE place on the Internet that says I have to reset the processor on the Receiver, but doesn't mention how to do that.

I know that I can play the tuner out of both Zone 1 & 2 at the same time and they can only be on one channel, but from the manual to other people saying they've made it happen, it seems I can run a digital input through Zone 1 and the built-in Tuner through Zone 2 at the same time. Is this possible?

I'm desperate for answers as the store's grand opening is this Friday (8/9/13) and I have yet to find a solution.
post #63 of 290
Zone 2 can only play sources connected with an analogue input. If you connect with a digital source it won't work.
post #64 of 290
Insync, I'm sure you're trying to help, but did you even read my post at all?
post #65 of 290
I'm a little disappointed that my "old" xbox 360 which uses the rgb components instead of an HDMI won't play well with this receiver! I used the onscreen menu to update the output to Game and it did work after following directions to change my output source "xbox" to SDTV instead of HDTV on the switch in the back, however the video was downright awful... It came out in a 4:3 format with black bars on the side. Then I changed the format to "full" and that helped, but the video was still a murky looking less than 480 picture and it just didn't look right so I finally gave up after an hour playing with the Onkyo menus. I now have the xbox plugged directly into the Panny via the components and it looks crystal clear albeit in 720p. Didn't think I would have to buy a new 360 with HDMI to play with this receiver using an HDMI ARC connection...Ugh...After reading the directions it should upscale 480i, but it won't for anything higher than that resolution from components? Does that even make sense?

This is from the manual on page 17 -

"In order for the AV receiver to upconvert component input to HDMI output, the source output must be set to 480i/576i. When signal is input at resolution of 480p/576p and more,error message will be displayed."

Hence the request to change my output to SDTV. Let me tell you, this picture was horrible. Guess I just have to wait on the Xbox 1 as I am not dropping dough on a new 360 just for an HDMI output...

If there is a way to "pass-through" my 720p component signal to HDMI, which I didn't really get far into on the manual, that would help tremendously...

Lame Onkyo.
post #66 of 290
Just got a new 727 for a really good deal at onecall. I haven't seen many user reviews for this unit, so I'll post my feelings on it once I have a chance to use it for awhile. I've been using an 805 since '07 and have loved it.
post #67 of 290
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Originally Posted by solarrdadd View Post

i currently own the 525. it's in my bedroom 11x14 and is powering 3 axiom M2v3 speakers and 2 axiom QS4v3 surrounds with an emotiva ultra sub 12 and it sounds great. i'm very happy with it thus far. i only have one issue with it and i believe it can be dealt with in a firmware update. i currently stream a lot of hi-rez audio via a cat6 gigabit network. everything plays great with the exception of some selections on certain albums at 192/24. it does play most of the 192/24 music but just a small handfull it says it can't play and we are talking tracks on albums, not complete albums. i get the message "cannot play" and it goes to the next track.

i've notified onkyo and they replied saying they are looking into it. ..................................

i'll keep you guys posted and let you know if a firmware for the 525 comes out and resolves the issue of not playing some 192/24 sources while playing others.

I wonder if that might be related to the notice included in the latest firmware release for the TX-NR616 which says, among other things, that sampling rates above 64k are not supported. In the thread linked below (it's only one page) it is stated by the moderator that that restriction is due to the design of the receiver, not the UWF-1 USB WiFi adapter. You may get a similar "we don't support that" response from Onkyo. It seems rather popular.

http://forums.onkyousa.com/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=177&p=11382#p11382

BTW, I had a 616 on order, but I didn't take delivery of it. After reading the forums I decided it just had TOO many problems. I downgraded to the 626 even though it cost me another $200 (the 616 was at a very low clearance price). The 616 had much more to offer, a second optical input, THX, another analog input, a Zone 3 as well as Zone 2..., pretty much a 727 without the WiFi/bluetooth adapters but with an extra optical input. But if it doesn't work, or if it is a constant headache, I just don't want it. My TX-NR 626 should be here in a couple days. From what I have seen here it does not seem to suffer from any unusual problems. Good.

Gord
post #68 of 290
Decision help: I can buy the 525 or my son's Yamaha A1000 for about the same money. Either one will be a 5.1 system with at least one zone. Much of the use will be streaming SiriusXM (so the interface and the remote app are important) and my TiVo Premiere. Opinions welcomed.
post #69 of 290
Loving the 727 so far. Was able to update the firmware right over the wireless network and it was a breeze. So far so good.
post #70 of 290
I'm feeling the same about my new 626 as well. It too updated it's firmware via the wireless with no problem. I think some of that may be due to just sitting back and not touching a thing until it is done. I have read that connecting or disconnecting almost anything can mess it up. I am extremely happy I decided to change my order from the 616 to the 626. Maybe if I can pick up a 727 next year about this time, at a close out price, I will, but I honestly can't say I am missing anything right now. The 626 does sound great and NO PROBLEMS!

Gord
post #71 of 290
I was getting the dreaded audio sound cutting out symptoms, with my 3 month old tx nr 626. Sound cut out, got really loud, quiet, clicked, then after a while sounded normal, then randomly repeat, whenever I changed inputs, fast forwarded pvr, changed audio tracks, changed channels, changed pretty much anything except volume, and it also on its own from time to time. It happened whether or not I was using hdmi to provide sound or optical. I initially figured it was a heat problem, or hdmi board issue, since I only have 3.5 inches clearance above the receiver, and read about this online. It seemed like the receiver couldn't sort out what audio mode to use, it would kind of "lose" the audio setting, then take about 30 sec or so to figure it out, all the while clicking and the audio mode indicators turning on and off and switching from dolby to dts, etc. I started to guess it also could be firmware related, and didnt want to do a system reset. So after cycling on/off pvr/ps3/avr, etc i began to play with the avr settings. The setting that made it go back to normal was..... Turn off hdmi cec. Use receiver, noticed it's all good! Turn on hdmi cec. Still good. Maybe some kind of hdmi cec handshake problem - my tv is a 2010 pn50c550. I feel a bit lucky that this worked, and hope it sticks. Was close to calling onkyo for tech support. Hope this is useful for anyone that comes across this issue!
post #72 of 290
I have read that that CEC thing has caused other problems as well, but never saw one that looked like yours. Will keep it in mind, thanks!

Mine has no heat problem at all. Nothing closer to it than the ceiling... except for a cat that wants to lay on it occasionally. He will learn not to do that real quick. biggrin.gif
post #73 of 290
I have the 626 and am using a ps3 with only a 2.0 setup. I set up the Audyssey using the supplied microphone. I have the audyssey set to movie, the dynamic eq set to on, and the dynamic volume set to heavy.
But yet I still have to turn up the sound on quiet passages and turn down the sound on loud passages like explosions. I had a denon about 5 years ago and the audyssey volume worked great.
Does anyone have any suggestions as to what might be the problem?
post #74 of 290
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Originally Posted by sleepyeddie View Post

I have the 626 and am using a ps3 with only a 2.0 setup. I set up the Audyssey using the supplied microphone. I have the audyssey set to movie, the dynamic eq set to on, and the dynamic volume set to heavy.
But yet I still have to turn up the sound on quiet passages and turn down the sound on loud passages like explosions. I had a denon about 5 years ago and the audyssey volume worked great.
Does anyone have any suggestions as to what might be the problem?

I've been wondering the same thing!
post #75 of 290
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Originally Posted by sleepyeddie View Post

I have the 626 and am using a ps3 with only a 2.0 setup. I set up the Audyssey using the supplied microphone. I have the audyssey set to movie, the dynamic eq set to on, and the dynamic volume set to heavy.
But yet I still have to turn up the sound on quiet passages and turn down the sound on loud passages like explosions. I had a denon about 5 years ago and the audyssey volume worked great.
Does anyone have any suggestions as to what might be the problem?

Same thing with me too. I have also experienced some lip sync issues on certain DirecTV channels as well as when playing Blu-Rays on my PS3. The blu ray issue was easy to fix because I just had to change the AV Sync setting but I won;t be able to do that for the DirecTV because it only happens on some channels. Any suggestions??
post #76 of 290
Hi,

I have bought the Onkey TX-NR626.

I am experiencing audio/video sync issues on TV channels coming from my cable/setup box.

The weird thing is that not all channels experience this problem.

Has somebody experienced this too ? and found a solution ?

Thank you.

Kr
post #77 of 290
Does anyone know if the 525 will take an analog video signal and pass it through the HDMI monitor output? I'm considering AVRs for my sister-in-law, but she has a VCR that she uses occasionally and wants to be able to run video from it through the AVR and to the projector (yes, it looks like crap on a 100" screen!)

According to the Onkyo website, there is no analog-to-HDMI upconversion in the 525 and I would have to move to the 626 to get it. But I wouldn't care if it is upconverted to 1080p. If it were to just digitize it and send it out otherwise unchanged (at 480i or 480p) to the projector via HDMI, that would be enough for her (the projector will upconvert of course). I assume that it will not do this, but does anyone know otherwise? Thanks.

Edit: Never mind, we decided we don't need to be able to do this anymore (indeed!).
Edited by bkeeler10 - 8/28/13 at 11:36am
post #78 of 290
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Nelson Diaz View Post

Hi, just purchased a 626 for use in an actual 60' theater. The theater and Bluray work great through Zone 1, I do not have anything plugged into the analog inputs for Zone 2, but all I'm trying to do is to play the Bluray through Zone 1 and the regular Tuner Radio input through Zone 2. Everything I've seen thus far says that that is possible, but whenever I try to do it, I cannot tune the radio through Zone 2, nor can I change the volume on Zone 2 and whenever I try to do so, a message that says "Pwrd Z2 NotAct" shows up.

I've only seen in ONE place on the Internet that says I have to reset the processor on the Receiver, but doesn't mention how to do that.

I know that I can play the tuner out of both Zone 1 & 2 at the same time and they can only be on one channel, but from the manual to other people saying they've made it happen, it seems I can run a digital input through Zone 1 and the built-in Tuner through Zone 2 at the same time. Is this possible?

I'm desperate for answers as the store's grand opening is this Friday (8/9/13) and I have yet to find a solution.

Did you find a solution?

The answer is in the speaker setup. In the receiver's settings page there is an option to configure a powered zone 2 setup. If you do that, your error message will disappear.

The option should be under: Setup-> Speaker Configuration -> Speaker Settings

Then turn powered Zone 2 on. I checked this on my older 708, but it should be the same for yours.
post #79 of 290
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Originally Posted by Tomaz1 View Post

Hi,

I have bought the Onkey TX-NR626.

I am experiencing audio/video sync issues on TV channels coming from my cable/setup box.

The weird thing is that not all channels experience this problem.

Has somebody experienced this too ? and found a solution ?

Thank you.

Kr

Your best option to avoid these HDMI handshake issues (common with cable/sat boxes and all brands of AVRs) is to connect the cable box HDMI directly to the TV with an optical cable from the box to the AVR for surround audio.
post #80 of 290
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Originally Posted by bkeeler10 View Post

Does anyone know if the 525 will take an analog video signal and pass it through the HDMI monitor output? I'm considering AVRs for my sister-in-law, but she has a VCR that she uses occasionally and wants to be able to run video from it through the AVR and to the projector (yes, it looks like crap on a 100" screen!)

According to the Onkyo website, there is no analog-to-HDMI upconversion in the 525 and I would have to move to the 626 to get it. But I wouldn't care if it is upconverted to 1080p. If it were to just digitize it and send it out otherwise unchanged (at 480i or 480p) to the projector via HDMI, that would be enough for her (the projector will upconvert of course). I assume that it will not do this, but does anyone know otherwise? Thanks.

Edit: Never mind, we decided we don't need to be able to do this anymore (indeed!).

As noted on p. 17 of the Owner's manual and in the image below, there is no analog --> HDMI conversion on the 525.

post #81 of 290
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Originally Posted by kmsninja View Post

Just set up the 626 yesterday initially. . Using a 5.1 setup, it dropped my wifi, so had to reset the unit, ie factory defaults, and unplug for minute. Then after setting up again, working good. I am using ps3, Apple TV, Wii, and a DLNA network server (synology). I like the customization, and flexibility to rename the devices. Also using these tv and onkyo apps on my iPad. These apps are working well too. Am able to control the Motorola pvr and Samsung tv using the onkyo remote. Long setup time with a few complexities. The Audyssey MultEQ works well, and wasnt difficult though. Overall great sound, and there are several sound modes to choose from. Very good upgrade from my old stereo. Good value overall, as long as the wifi stays connected, and I don't havetoset everything up again.
Which Motorola PVR do you have?I have the VIP-1963 but can't get it to work with the Onkyo remote.
post #82 of 290
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Originally Posted by Ryyzak View Post

Which Motorola PVR do you have?I have the VIP-1963 but can't get it to work with the Onkyo remote.

Hey, it's Motorola VIP2262. I think the Harmony remote might be a good idea...
post #83 of 290
Just picked up a 626 today.

It's connected to my PC via HDMI.



What is the best listening mode to get a surround sound effect from stereo sources, e.g MP3's? If I configure 7.1 speakers in Windows 7 then the receiver can't select the PLII or DTS Neo Modes, they're only available if I configure 2.0 in Windows 7 for some reason. I would prefer not to have keep changing the number of speakers from 7.1 to 2.0 every time I want to listen to some music.
post #84 of 290
Also does anyone know why if I play a dts or dts-hd 5.1 movie and press display it will show the input as 5.1 dts and the output as 7.1 dts?

Does this mean the receiver is creating two extra channels and I'm not getting the soundtrack as intended?
post #85 of 290
If you are playing a DD/DTS 5.1 movie and you have a 7 speaker setup ... how else will audio get to the surround back speakers unless the AVR simulates the back 2 CH?
post #86 of 290
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

If you are playing a DD/DTS 5.1 movie and you have a 7 speaker setup ... how else will audio get to the surround back speakers unless the AVR simulates the back 2 CH?

so the simulation is deliberate? what if I don't want it to simulate the surround back channels, any way to turn it off?
post #87 of 290
Also,

I effectively have two sound cards in my PC:

1. The Graphics card HDMI (Radeon HD 7790)
2. An Auzentech x-plosion with optical and coaxial out.

I would like to have both HDMI and Coaxial active at the same time, for example, I play a DTS-HD Movie through XBMC and this is bitstreamed over HDMI to the 626 which decodes and plays it. The movie then finishes and I start listening to music or playing games, this audio is encoded as Dolby Digital 5.1 and passed via optical to the 626 which decodes it and plays it.

However this isn't possible as the 626 can only have one audio input active at once...is there a way round this?
post #88 of 290
Does anyone know how to get the yellow standby light instead of the bright wifi light when I turn off the receiver? It did that a few days ago a couple of times, but then it went back to the annoying bright wifi light. I can't reproduce the behaviour, hdmi through etc.
post #89 of 290
On the Onkyo TX-NR525 or TX-NR626 receivers can the A/V Sync be adjusted manually?

The online manual it states:
“The range of values you can adjust will depend on whether your TV or display supports HDMI Lip Sync and if the “Lip Sync” setting is set to “On” or not”.

It appears you can adjust the value manually, but there are no further instructions. The manual states:
“Press ENTER to view the TV picture while setting the delay when the video source is output to HDMI OUT MAIN.”

But that does not say if that just sets it On or Off, of if/how you can manually set the delay. I did not see any further directions on this.

I have an older Onkyo & you have to set the delay manually & the time displays on the AVR.

Can anyone confirm if the delay can be set manually on the TX-NR525 or TX-NR626?
If so, does the setting come up on screen and/or just the front display of the AVR?

Any information would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
post #90 of 290
I have a second question regarding the TX-NR525 and TX-NR626.

Looking at this thread it seems the 626 is more popular than the 525 & I figured why not get the 626. But examining the features, I'm not going to use any wireless or Bluetooth or zone 2 features. Is there any sonic reason, other than a little more power, to spend more & get the 626?
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