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Poll Results: Do You Prefer Plasma or LED-LCD TVs?

 
  • 81% (564)
    Plasma
  • 18% (125)
    LED-LCD
689 Total Votes  
post #391 of 496
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by arnyk View Post


Interesting that DLP merits no mention.

I like having a TV where all the pixels are the right color... ;-)


DLP merits no mention because I'm asking about flat-panel technology here. Also, DLP RPTV is a dead product category.

post #392 of 496
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Originally Posted by David Susilo View Post

It depends what you buy. If you buy the Kuro, for example, you don't need to upgrade for the first 4 years of ownership.

If you buy a decent HD projector such as the JVC RS1, you don't need to upgrade it for the first 4 years too.

It's only when you buy entry level stuff that you need to keep upgrading.

Idk, even with relatively entry level stuff you can do alright if you do your research. In the last year I bought a couple new plasmas, a blu ray player, and a couple remotes,, I made sure everything was 1080p and had what I need it to have. Now I am set until I see OLED 4k technology with practical source material at reasonable prices....I'm betting that's going to take all of 4 years. Until that happens, I don't see any improvements coming along that would warrant an upgrade for me. Although I do see what what was meant.. Personally, I think the "new" features and technology has more to do with corporate greed and their excellent marketing strategies. With constant "enhancements" to "smart" technologies, they've got the deep pocket consumer right where they want him... The consumer is no longer telling the companies what they want. Now, the companies are telling the consumer what he wants. Try shopping for a new tv that has just a good picture without all the 3D and smart feature hoopla... It's harder then you think. But a lot of people are like sheep. They didn't demand tv manufacturers to start making voice activated televisions, but when those manufacturers showed it to them, suddenly they had to have it.
post #393 of 496
I'm just talking about performance. Once you get to features, there are too many gimmicky garbage out there. Seriously, why would anybody need to browse on their TV or using the TV remote to Tweet?
post #394 of 496
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Originally Posted by David Susilo View Post

I'm just talking about performance. Once you get to features, there are too many gimmicky garbage out there. Seriously, why would anybody need to browse on their TV or using the TV remote to Tweet?

Give me my old, familiar computer anyday. Computing on the TV, I don't think so! I'm in need of Cataract Surgery, but I don't need the Internet splashed all over a screen that Big!
post #395 of 496
But... I want my TV to be able to tutor my daughter and prepare my breakfast too!! tongue.gif
post #396 of 496
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Scott Wilkinson View Post


As far as I know, no plasma does frame interpolation. Otherwise, you are correct here; frame interpolation is worst with 24fps movies, and you can turn it off in 120Hz and 240Hz LCDs, in which case, each frame will simply be repeated 5 or 10 times for 24fps content (2 or 4 times for 60fps video).


I stand corrected. After checking with Pioneer, Panasonic, and Samsung, I find that some plasmas do, in fact, offer frame interpolation. In the Kuro, it's called Film Smooth; in the Panasonics, it's called Cinema Smoother; in the Samsungs, it's called Motion Judder Canceller or De-Judder. From what I gather, these functions operate at 60Hz with 24fps material. These TVs also offer the option of repeating frames (3:3 in the Kuro, 4:4 in the Panasonic and Samsung) instead of frame interpolation with 24fps content.

post #397 of 496
What's going on - all the 4K Blu-rays listed for May 14 to 23 at Amazon.ca - not available. FS and BB were suppose to get them in for the 23rd - nowhere in sight?
Still listed at amazon.com, but for how long? Damm, won't get to try that newer version of Total Recall 2012 re the audio dropouts on Bitstream
post #398 of 496
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Originally Posted by p5browne View Post

What's going on - all the 4K Blu-rays listed for May 14 to 23 at Amazon.ca - not available. FS and BB were suppose to get them in for the 23rd - nowhere in sight?
Still listed at amazon.com, but for how long? Damm, won't get to try that newer version of Total Recall 2012 re the audio dropouts on Bitstream

I was wondering the same thing, we can't seem to be able to get em anywhere up here, what's up with that confused.gif
post #399 of 496
Uhmm, guys, I think we're on the wrong thread biggrin.gif. Btw, I tried to reorder for my other clients, I can get them either.

If you guys need help, I can order from the US sent to my US Addy and from US Addy shipped directly to yours so the overall shipping and tax are much-much lower. PM me.
post #400 of 496
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Originally Posted by David Susilo View Post

Uhmm, guys, I think we're on the wrong thread biggrin.gif. Btw, I tried to reorder for my other clients, I can get them either.

If you guys need help, I can order from the US sent to my US Addy and from US Addy shipped directly to yours so the overall shipping and tax are much-much lower. PM me.

Thx very much David I'll be in touch, you have the connections.. very nice wink.gifbiggrin.gif
post #401 of 496
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1473134/sony-master-in-4k-blu-rays-on-our-projectors-enhanced-colors

If you've missed this.

Anyone seen or heard of these? They say they're the Best TV in the World! All Hand Made!

http://www.peopleoflava.com/television/royal-sweden/
Edited by p5browne - 5/20/13 at 2:16pm
post #402 of 496
Probably a re badged Seiki,TCL or Hisense, Hisense makes some backlit sets they also make knock down kits for assembly at destination countries.
post #403 of 496
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Originally Posted by p5browne View Post

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1473134/sony-master-in-4k-blu-rays-on-our-projectors-enhanced-colors

If you've missed this.

Anyone seen or heard of these? They say they're the Best TV in the World! All Hand Made!

http://www.peopleoflava.com/television/royal-sweden/

Weird... Totally weird.

120 Hz panel, uses Faroudja processor, additional speakers that look eerily similar to Focal Bird. It feels like I was in twilight zone when I went to that website.

PS: handmade TV... As opposed to be made by foot? biggrin.gif

Weirrrrrrrrd!
post #404 of 496
Quote:
Originally Posted by p5browne View Post

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1473134/sony-master-in-4k-blu-rays-on-our-projectors-enhanced-colors

If you've missed this.

Anyone seen or heard of these? They say they're the Best TV in the World! All Hand Made!

http://www.peopleoflava.com/television/royal-sweden/

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Originally Posted by David Susilo View Post

Weird... Totally weird.

120 Hz panel, uses Faroudja processor, additional speakers that look eerily similar to Focal Bird. It feels like I was in twilight zone when I went to that website.

PS: handmade TV... As opposed to be made by foot? biggrin.gif

Weirrrrrrrrd!

Yeah I can't even load their site on my iPhone David eek.gif

Watch out Panasonic / Samsung / Sony / Sharp / etc. there's a new player in town ready to take over your biz wink.gif
post #405 of 496
Wife told me about it after hearing or seeing something on TV, News ? Said they were quite estatic about these sets. Seems to be a European thing. Say they're in 20 Countries, but I see no mention about being available in NA. Will ship to where ever, but client responcible to ship it back to Scandinavia in case of problems. Now that may be a turn off factor over here!
post #406 of 496
^^^reminds me of NuVision. Anyone remember them? They did custom colored frames, special mirror finishes, "premium" LCD/LED. Saw a few of their sets and thought they actually looked really good. Went totally out of business a couple years ago
post #407 of 496
Yup! Totally remember them. What a bunch of pompous executives. By invititation-only booth at CES (I was invited 2 years in a row before they went bye-bye). Great cosmetically but TVs themselves were nothing special.
post #408 of 496
I prefer plasma but own an LCD. IR being the main reason (HTPC and gaming consoles).

I'd love to have another plasma if not for IR. True white "whites" would be nice to have with the plasma too while I'm wishing :-)
post #409 of 496
There is no true "white" in proper display because the range is only from 16-235

I don't know about HTPC but none of my plasma have IR from gaming (Wii and PS3)
post #410 of 496
For those of you that have not yet checked it out, watch the 'Home Theater Geeks' link (Episode 160) from the latest Flat Panel shootout at Value Electronics. Worth seeing for the entire hour and gives a lot of insight into these things.

Early on, the Calibrator implies that the LCD panels needed all the help they could get in competing with the Plasma displays.

They do conclude however that all the Flat Panels have improved and are much closer than they were even a year ago, but overwhelmingly, the plasmas came out on top, even with the non-professional viewers.

[URL=http://www.*********************/]Value Electronics[/URL]

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post #411 of 496
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Originally Posted by David Susilo View Post

There is no true "white" in proper display because the range is only from 16-235

I don't know about HTPC but none of my plasma have IR from gaming (Wii and PS3)

Color me jealous on your lack of IR. I'd take my LCD back if I knew I could be that lucky on my next plasma.

I'd still like that "white" white...since I'm wishing.
post #412 of 496
The new VT and ZT series can do that superwhite you're looking for, though. biggrin.gif
post #413 of 496
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Originally Posted by David Susilo View Post

The new VT and ZT series can do that superwhite you're looking for, though. biggrin.gif

If only we all could afford the ZT... biggrin.gif


David, regarding IR, my ST50 does get a little during normal use. Actually every time I turn the set on the Viera logo that flashes in the center of the screen leaves a ghost for a bit... Would this be eliminated with a proper calibration? If so do you have any recommendations on finding a calibrator? I am unfortunately stuck within the confines of a tight budget but I would like to eliminate the little IR I experience.

For the record I would rather be eaten by a bear than switch to any LED TV. wink.gif
post #414 of 496
Depending on the severity, usually properly calibrated TV shouldn;t be doing that.

Try first by lowering the panel brightness to "min" and see what happens.

And of course, set your TV to movie mode.
post #415 of 496
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Originally Posted by David Susilo View Post

Depending on the severity, usually properly calibrated TV shouldn;t be doing that.

Try first by lowering the panel brightness to "min" and see what happens.

And of course, set your TV to movie mode.

I will drop it to min. The blacks look a little better so that's a plus. By "movie" mode you mean the pre-set cinema mode? Panasonic decided that I cant adjust the panel brightness in that setting.
post #416 of 496
Sorry, what I meant to say is either you use the CNET settings or at the very least use the Movie setting.

However, if the budget permits, it's best to get it calibrated AND ask your calibrator to set the panel brightness to minimum and only hit no more than 33 ftL maximum brightness.
post #417 of 496
/CNET settings but on min. Got it. Thank you David. Can you name any online resource that I could use to find a reputable calibrator in my area?
post #418 of 496
Reputable? No. But certified? You can visit Thx.com and imagingscience.org for a list of their certified calibrators.
post #419 of 496
David, Could I trouble you with an inquiry via a personal message?
post #420 of 496
PM away, my friend!

Cheers!
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