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post #151 of 234
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You know, Jasmine isn't nearly as tall as I'd thought, but she sure is strong...in every sense of the word.

When they stand for the judges critiques, it always pops into my head - Cat Deeley is only 5'9". She just looks 6'1" in comparison to the dancers.
post #152 of 234
I think the guest judge spoiled who was getting eliminated, he made the comment to the one dancer in the bottom two that was something like, that is why you will be here for a long time.
post #153 of 234
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Originally Posted by spyder696969 View Post

You know, Jasmine isn't nearly as tall as I'd thought, but she sure is strong...in every sense of the word.

When they stand for the judges critiques, it always pops into my head - Cat Deeley is only 5'9". She just looks 6'1" in comparison to the dancers.

She's always wearing 4" heels, bringing her up to 6'1" biggrin.gif.
post #154 of 234
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I think the guest judge spoiled who was getting eliminated, he made the comment to the one dancer in the bottom two that was something like, that is why you will be here for a long time.

I thought that too, a little, but really....based on the judge reviews between Malece and Amy, it was pretty clear who was going home.

This is a good top 10. I'm glad Nigel will try to get the 12 on the tour because that was a tough cut. But this is the right top 10.
post #155 of 234
I will start with the tale of two Hip Hop routines. I thought Nico was way better than Hayley when it came to their respective routines. When Twitch can not bring you up then there is something wrong with the dancer. Nico at least went all in with the character he was portraying. I am not sure I get the choice of Robert as a dance partner for Tucker as the routine was laid out. There was nothing about the costuming, the props, or the routine itself that seemed to suggest what the preview beforehand.

To me the strangest disconnect of the night between myself and the judges was number Paul was in. I am sure it is not my imagination, but halfway through the routine Paul dropped Whitney harder than he was supposed to. Maybe I am wrong, but that did not come off well on screen to me.

Fik-Shun continues to impress for me, Aaron continues to be a solid performer who I can't see hitting the bottom next week. Jasmine had a good night in that unique jazz routine. Amy was in a stunt fest that might lead her to the bottom.
post #156 of 234
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I will start with the tale of two Hip Hop routines. I thought Nico was way better than Hayley when it came to their respective routines.

The routine was lame, leaving her very little to be impressive doing. There were no hard-edge sections--it was barely classifiable as Hip-Hop. It might land her in the bottom next week.
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Fik-Shun continues to impress for me...

Pairing him with equally baby-faced Melanie was inspired.

I was actually glad to see them put Makenzie out of her misery. She's performed quite well throughout the competition, but "America" doesn't care for her; it's got to be personal. She's in the top 10, obviously not headed for the win and has been spared the embarrassment of landing in the bottom a fifth time. It's a shame that they couldn't simultaneously dump fellow four-times-in-the-bottom contestant Jenna who seems destined for that dubious 5-times-in-the-bottom distinction, though maybe not next week (Ricky Jamie of season 8 and Lauren Gottlieb of season 3, were eliminated after landing in the bottom 5 times. Comfort Fedoke, season 4, was eliminated for a second time--someone else's injury brought her back--on her sixth straight appearance in the bottom; she wasn't in the bottom on the first elimination show but was in the bottom every week after that).

I really don't like Tucker and wish they'd kept Nico instead. I sense that Tuker's uppance is coming smile.gif.
post #157 of 234
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To me the strangest disconnect of the night between myself and the judges was number Paul was in. I am sure it is not my imagination, but halfway through the routine Paul dropped Whitney harder than he was supposed to. Maybe I am wrong, but that did not come off well on screen to me...

He dropped her HARD, then immediately followed that by missing a hand grab on a turn. Poor performance all around. But, as we clearly saw in the case of Makenzie, the judges see what they want to see.

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I was actually glad to see them put Makenzie out of her misery...

On that we can definitely agree. She should have been gone long, long ago. Even the choreographers obviously wanted her gone, with many going so far as to brave the wrath and disagree with Nigel's "unbiased" opinion of her.
post #158 of 234
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Originally Posted by michaeltscott View Post

The routine was lame, leaving her very little to be impressive doing. There were no hard-edge sections--it was barely classifiable as Hip-Hop. It might land her in the bottom next week.
Pairing him with equally baby-faced Melanie was inspired.

I was actually glad to see them put Makenzie out of her misery. She's performed quite well throughout the competition, but "America" doesn't care for her; it's got to be personal. She's in the top 10, obviously not headed for the win and has been spared the embarrassment of landing in the bottom a fifth time. It's a shame that they couldn't simultaneously dump fellow four-times-in-the-bottom contestant Jenna who seems destined for that dubious 5-times-in-the-bottom distinction, though maybe not next week (Ricky Jamie of season 8 and Lauren Gottlieb of season 3, were eliminated after landing in the bottom 5 times. Comfort Fedoke, season 4, was eliminated for a second time--someone else's injury brought her back--on her sixth straight appearance in the bottom; she wasn't in the bottom on the first elimination show but was in the bottom every week after that).

I really don't like Tucker and wish they'd kept Nico instead. I sense that Tuker's uppance is coming smile.gif.

Lauren Gottleib was another perennial bottom-3-or-2 I never understood. I thought she was not only one of the most talented female dancers in Season 3, but also definitely had the most charisma onstage, which I also thought was demonstrated by the fact that time and again in group routines she seemed to be the "featured" performer, with her being the girl with the most exposure and shown front and foremost the most. She had a certain "sparkle" to her eyes... a certain "it" factor, that I thought should have put her in the Final 4. But then I almost never get what I expect. Although the person I picked to win the last three seasons finally has (including both of the two winners last season).

Between Jenna and Makenzie, however, I agree with Nigel that Makenzie had the edge. Either way, however, neither was likely to make it to the Final 4, which is looking to be probably Hayley and Jasmine plus two of the guys at this point. I was really impressed with Comfort last night, and that's coming from someone who really DIDN'T think she was Top-20 material in Season 4. Nor was I impressed with her on tour. She's matured quite a bit since then. As always, sadly, whoever dances with Kathryn, well, I have a hard time noticing WHAT they do, as I can't keep my eyes off her. I continue to think she may be the best (or most impressive) female dancer to date on this show. I think it was... Aaron??? At any rate, I'm well aware of what a "pauper's life" professional dancing can be for all but the few REAL STARS -- those who happen to be multitalented and become successful actors and/or singers, as well (think Gene Kelly, Anne Reinking {sp?}, etc.). However, I would note that when the rare musical really HITS -- even today -- it hits VERY big. In the past 41 years we've had three I can think of: 1972's "Cabaret" won 6 Oscars, including best actress, actor and director, although it's nomination for Best Picture didn't win: Thirty years later "Chicago" took 8 Oscars, this time including Best Picture; and six years later, "Slumdog Millionaire" also won 8 Oscars, including Best Picture, director and writing. So when a musical "hits" it REALLY hits! At any rate, most professional dancers end up working "for peanuts," so to speak, so I certainly hope whatever these "all-stars" get paid to dance on this section of SYTYCD is helping them make a living. They certainly deserve it!
Jeff
Edited by JeffAHayes - 8/16/13 at 7:12am
post #159 of 234
To be blunt, I thought Hayley and Tucker sucked. Didn't help Hayley that her routine was awful, but she was bad in it. I mostly disagreed with the judges about Jasmine. I can almost never take my eyes off of her when she dances, but Marco dominated the dance for me. He was incredibly strong in it. Loved Melanie as usual. She shone brighter than everyone else.
post #160 of 234

I enjoy the show on a entertainment not technical basis and thought this week was great. Regarding Makenzie I think she comes across rather mature which removes her from a lot of the voting block... I'm guessing. As such she might have some luck going forward into the real world of dance.

 

It was nice to see Kathryn dance and Whitney appears to be coming right along.

post #161 of 234
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Originally Posted by Charles R View Post

I enjoy the show on a entertainment not technical basis and thought this week was great. Regarding Makenzie I think she comes across rather mature which removes her from a lot of the voting block... I'm guessing...

I don't buy it. Aaron and Jasmine do incredibly well in the voting and they look, act, and dance as though they're adults among kids. Simply put, I never saw anything from her that wasn't "average" (in SYTYCD terms, anyway) but I think the biggest factor in her not getting votes was Nigel's incessant blathering about how she was supposedly so "great." We've seen it backfire again and again on him. It seems like he'll never learn, doesn't it?
post #162 of 234
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Originally Posted by spyder696969 View Post

Aaron and Jasmine do incredibly well in the voting and they look, act, and dance as though they're adults among kids. Simply put, I never saw anything from her that wasn't "average" (in SYTYCD terms, anyway) but I think the biggest factor in her not getting votes was Nigel's incessant blathering about how she was supposedly so "great."

 

I understand your logic and on the surface I can see how you would relate mature to adult. However, I don't see them as the same thing and neither of the two mentioned come across the same way as Makenzie (my take). I'm not saying Makenzie is mature in an adult way rather she appears more mature (self-assured, evolved to a higher level than her peers, etc) in the sense of one would perhaps envy or be jealous of to the point of the voting block not relating to her favorably.

 

Regarding her being an "average" dancer if that is a fact (haven't a clue) I think that has little do with the number of votes she receives. I don't think anyone believes the best dancer wins (by default). Nor do I think Nigel has much pull one way or the other... my take is the most likable/relatable (on one or more surfaces) contestant that can halfway perform (whatever the reality competition is) wins...


Edited by Charles R - 8/19/13 at 4:27pm
post #163 of 234
Coupla thoughts about the show and tour...

First, I'd said I wasn't going to buy tour tickets again, but when I checked Fox.com/Dance the other night it showed this year's tour date in my area is at Greenville (SC's) Peace Center for the Performing Arts. That's barely a 30-minute drive from my home, and although I've never yet attended an event there, friends who have say the auditorium is amazing -- especially the acoustics... So anyway, tickets went on sale for the general public at 10 a.m. this morning (their booster members could buy them starting yesterday). Well, I had my alarm set for about 9:15, but just didn't feel like getting up. So I finally got down here a bit ago to see what seats were still available, and I think I got fairly decent seating in the front orchestra section (not PIT orchestra, but regular)... Here's a link to their seating chart. I got seat K37: http://www.peacecenter.org/box_office/seating_charts.php. Nothing on their website said anything about photography one way or the other, so I'm hoping I can take pics. However, rather than carrying a camera bag with me, this time I'll just take my best DSLR with ONE zoom that goes from 18-250 (24-375 35mm equiv.). I primarily used a 55-300/80-450 equiv. when I went to the Season 8 tour with excellent results, except there were a few times I couldn't get quite as wide as I wanted to. This Sigma zoom is pretty small, too, so if they have some limit on lens length, etc., it should pass it.

Second, Nigel revealed something about their voting mechanism on this past Tuesday's show. In the past he's simply said he and "the other judges" had "conferred" with the choreographers to come up with a solution. But he never elaborated if that meant ALL the choreographers, or ALL those who'd worked with the various dancers, or ALL working that week, or what. Well, this week he said Makenzie lost by a vote of 9-6. It's technically IMPOSSIBLE for 3 people to come up with a vote of 9-6 unless people get "half-point votes." With full-point votes, such a score requires either 5, or 15 voters. As they rarely have 12 choreographers on hand at any one time, my guess is five. This leads me to believe the choreographers for the dancers in danger of elimination get equal voting power to the 3 judges, with each getting 3 votes, which means Nigel and one other person voted for Makenzie -- probably her choreographer, I'm guessing -- certainly not Debbie Allen after the things she said to Jenna.

Of course it all really doesn't matter. I just thought it might be an interesting little bit of insight into how some of the behind-the-scenes things might work.
Jeff
post #164 of 234
Waiting on Cyrus to visit the show with Jasmine still on.
post #165 of 234
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Originally Posted by JeffAHayes View Post

Second, Nigel revealed something about their voting mechanism on this past Tuesday's show. In the past he's simply said he and "the other judges" had "conferred" with the choreographers to come up with a solution. But he never elaborated if that meant ALL the choreographers, or ALL those who'd worked with the various dancers, or ALL working that week, or what. Well, this week he said Makenzie lost by a vote of 9-6. It's technically IMPOSSIBLE for 3 people to come up with a vote of 9-6 unless people get "half-point votes." With full-point votes, such a score requires either 5, or 15 voters. As they rarely have 12 choreographers on hand at any one time, my guess is five. This leads me to believe the choreographers for the dancers in danger of elimination get equal voting power to the 3 judges, with each getting 3 votes, which means Nigel and one other person voted for Makenzie -- probably her choreographer, I'm guessing -- certainly not Debbie Allen after the things she said to Jenna...

Or Nigel's vote counts as 6 votes and 9 others (with votes equal to one each) voted for Makenzie to leave. Anything is possible.

Congrats on getting tickets! smile.gif
post #166 of 234
The elimination process this season - does anyone think that the upcoming season of Dancing With The Stars, which also now is one show per week, will use the same formula? (The bottom two couples (or will it be three) will be announced early (starting with week 2) and then the judges get to save one couple).

I think it's the only way it will work since the old way of the results show isn't available anymore.
post #167 of 234
My guess is that the young female voters are simply not captivated by Makensie because she is too strikingly beautiful and at the same time too aloof to appeal to that group, which is the kiss of death. I doubt her dancing had much to do with her lack of votes. I think she could use those traits to make a compelling villainess acting in shows.
post #168 of 234
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My guess is that the young female voters are simply not captivated by Makensie because she is too strikingly beautiful and at the same time too aloof to appeal to that group, which is the kiss of death.

I agree that it had to be something like this. There was nothing wrong with her dancing and the judges pretty consistently slathered her with praise. "America" just never got to like her very much. I doubt that many people actively disliked her; they just liked most of the other girls much more. Even if everyone is wonderfully skillful and appealing, some two or three girls are going to get fewer votes than others.
post #169 of 234
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Originally Posted by michaeltscott View Post

...the judges pretty consistently slathered her with praise...

I'd still lay every cent I had on this being her downfall. They far overdid it.
post #170 of 234
Anyone catch why Aaron wasn't in the group number? Seems like that would be a major omission from the show. (Although I seem to recall it happening to other dancers in previous seasons.)

The dances tonight were nice, but usually aren't we getting 2 each by this point in other seasons? Or at least 1 plus a solo? It seemed like way more talk tonight.
post #171 of 234
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The dances tonight were nice, but usually aren't we getting 2 each by this point in other seasons? Or at least 1 plus a solo? It seemed like way more talk tonight.

Maybe with people getting hurt, they decided to go with just one dance each. frown.gif

Amy crushed everyone tonight. As much as I love Jasmine, I think it's Amy's to lose a this point. (Although I'm sure that Jasmine will make a mint in dance or could easily model, as she is absolutely stunning in every sense of the word.) Haley is a distant, DISTANT third place. Too bad they "have to" send one boy and one girl home. Both females' solos were abysmal compared to the boys' performances. Jenna's departure was long overdue. Nigel had the wife and I rolling on the floor with his whole "now that Makenzie's gone" pathetic, near-tears nonsense. rolleyes.gif

Can't say who will win for the boys, but Paul has been awful for weeks now. Somehow, Mary sees something other than missed steps, flawed grabs and dropping partners flat on the ground. confused.gif

Some good choreography all around by the "rookies." Courtney is still smokin' hot. Kudos to Twitch and Allyson. Their kids are going to be amazing! smile.gif
post #172 of 234
Once again, I knew Tucker and Jenna were goners when they announced the bottom four. Haley's still my favorite, though as I expected she landed in the bottom given that crappy routine she and Twitch were handed last week. I never liked Amy's bubbly little girl affect, though her performances have been good. On this show she danced what was the best composed number and she did it well. I do expect that she and Jasmine are probably more popular with "America" than Hayley, so Haley most likely won't survive next week.

As I expected, Fik-shun looked like an 8th-grader dancing with Allison--he's just way too young looking. I think that he'll be the next male eliminated. I didn't much care for Allison's composition; I question just how much static mixed race couples get in modern day America. I haven't noticed any for a very long time.

I really liked that quirky piece that Mark composed and Jenna danced it well, but this was the fifth time she landed in the bottom and it was definitely time for her to go. (As I pointed out previously she's only the fourth person in the show's history to survive to hit the bottom a fifth time, with Comfort holding the distinction of having been in the bottom 6 times). There's something about Tucker that I just don't like and never have. Tucker was the last of the male contemporary specialists (both Jasmine and Hayley are contemporary, with Amy being a Jazz specialist). Now only Aaron and Paul have stayed out of the bottom all season--I think that they'll both be in the finale.

That Jive that Aaron performed with Chelsie was cool and he looked good doing it. Dimitri's "Lyrical Rhumba" was...interesting. I can't recall anyone attempting to tell a story with a ballroom style other than Paso Doble.

Jenna Elfman made a pretty good guest judge. I was surprised and greatly impressed by her dance resume.
Edited by michaeltscott - 8/21/13 at 2:39pm
post #173 of 234
I think Tucker was a far better dancer then fikton (or however he spells it). Not even in the same league.

I actually felt honored to be watching Travis dance again. The guy is a legend now with his choreography and to see him back and actually dancing, loved it.

Great to see Mark again. I thought, oh man this routine is going ot be horrible, but we actually ended up really liking it. You can soooo see Lady Gaga all over that act, she sure has rubbed off on him. smile.gif
post #174 of 234
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I think Tucker was a far better dancer then fikton (or however he spells it). Not even in the same league.

I actually felt honored to be watching Travis dance again. The guy is a legend now with his choreography and to see him back and actually dancing, loved it.

Great to see Mark again. I thought, oh man this routine is going ot be horrible, but we actually ended up really liking it. You can soooo see Lady Gaga all over that act, she sure has rubbed off on him. smile.gif
It was a reunion for Mark because his contestant partners for two of the show's iconic routines were also there - Chelsie (Bleeding Love) and Courtney (The Garden).
post #175 of 234
It was an interesting idea to have the All Stars to choreograph the routine. I think it is easy to see that Amy crushed the competition this week, but she had the advantage of having a choreographer who is used to setting things up for the show. Fik-Shun usually stood out in their partnership, but Amy really soared on her own tonight. Fik-Shun struggled, but I think it was one of the things where Allison created something that seemed to showcase her skills. I thought Comfort did a good job or protecting Paul during their hip hop number. I mean I would still send him home, but he wasn't horrible.

I gotta hand it to Aaron the guy has managed to stay out of the bottom all season long. He has consistently been "not the worse" each week. Jasmine has gone two weeks in a row dressed like a guy which is odd.
post #176 of 234
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It was a reunion for Mark because his contestant partners for two of the show's iconic routines were also there - Chelsie (Bleeding Love) and Courtney (The Garden).

I believe that Chelsie was his partner from the beginning of Season 4 and that he got to do "The Garden" with Courtney post top 10, when they started changing partners every week.
post #177 of 234
I think the voters got it wrong this week with regard to the male dancers and sent easily the best of the three home.
post #178 of 234
America got it completely right this year! smile.gif

To think that Aaron almost didn't even make the Top 20 is beyond belief. His partnering skills are among the very best the show has ever seen.

Jasmine is a model of elegance and grace, perfect lines and, unlike the words heaped upon lesser dancers now gone, she CAN do anything.

Amy crushed it once again. That Bollywood routine was easily the best danced Bollywood number the show has ever had by a mile.

That leaves Fik-Shun, whose growth has been tremendous and has a presence unmatched by all but a select few.

We'll be happy with any two of these deservedly winning it all. smile.gif
post #179 of 234
Aaron's solo tap routine was worth the price of admission, and I say that as someone who does not usually appreciate that discipline. Fik-Shun has a unique talent in his specialty, plus personality to spare, but neither Fik-Shun nor Aaron can carry Paul's shoes as an all-around dancer. The gals are excellent, but after a dose of Kathryn & Melanie last night, it is hard to think of them in the same breath. They just shouldn't/oughta be on the same show with those two.


My picks for the winners - Jasmine & Aaron.
Edited by Distorted - 8/27/13 at 11:28pm
post #180 of 234
I agree that Paul should have made it in place of Fik-shun. The girls ended up where I predicted that they would last week; I like Hayley more than Amy, whose bubbly little girl personality grates on me, but I suspect that she's probably the most popular dancer of the season. I expect the winners will be Amy and Aaron, though I'd prefer Jasmine and Aaron.
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