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post #1 of 10
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Sorry, I should have posted this here and not under whole house audio:

I am installing two seperate side by side wall mounted TVs with 2 seperate cable boxes, I would like to know if anyone has done this or can offer cost effective solutions for controlling these side by side TVs. Obviously being side by side, any time I use the remote, how is it going to know which one to control and not try to control both? My cable boxes are mounted nearby inside of a bench/cabinet so I would like to control them as well. I am open to 2 different remotes or one multi function device. I currently have Cat 6 running between the TV locations and the box locations. Any help would be great.

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post #2 of 10
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Originally Posted by twins454 View Post

Sorry, I should have posted this here and not under whole house audio:

I am installing two seperate side by side wall mounted TVs with 2 seperate cable boxes, I would like to know if anyone has done this or can offer cost effective solutions for controlling these side by side TVs. Obviously being side by side, any time I use the remote, how is it going to know which one to control and not try to control both? My cable boxes are mounted nearby inside of a bench/cabinet so I would like to control them as well. I am open to 2 different remotes or one multi function device. I currently have Cat 6 running between the TV locations and the box locations. Any help would be great.

Just to be sure I have this correctly, if the the TVs, and the the cable boxes are identical, then there is a "signal" issue as you pointed out. But, there are a couple of possible solutions/options.

1) Set one combo of TV/cable box as an "RF" set up, the other as an "IR" or traditional remote set up. That is install Radio Frequency sensors, but it looks like you may need to do this for both combos if both cable boxes are indeed inside a cabinet. So, unless you can get one of the boxes "outside" in the line of sight for a remote, this may not be an option.

2) Install two separate RF signal systems, each with a unique identifier code. This will enable separate controls, but you will not be able to operate the "other system" with each remote. The remotes will be "dedicated".
post #3 of 10
Thread Starter 
Ok, thanks. I can either install an IR extender to one of the boxes from inside the cabinet easily or the idea of the RF setup sounds easy enough as well. I will check into that and get back if I run into any issues.
Thanks for the advice. Do you have a specific RF setup that you recommend?
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Ok, thanks. I can either install an IR extender to one of the boxes from inside the cabinet easily or the idea of the RF setup sounds easy enough as well. I will check into that and get back if I run into any issues.
Thanks for the advice. Do you have a specific RF setup that you recommend?

As for recommending RF equipment and set ups, I hope I don't open a debate, but I personally like the Harmony remotes. Many will recommend using a URC remote and set up, which are very nice, but can be very high end.

I recommend looking at the Harmony and the URC remote lines, and researching them a bit. Then decide which is right for you.

As a last thought, you may want to think about two different remotes/systems, so as to avoid confusion when in use. If there will be other people using these remotes, then you want to simplify the set up as clearly as possible.
post #5 of 10
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Ok, great thanks.
post #6 of 10
You don't need separate remotes.

If you have a RF receiver box made by Harmony, URC, or others which is uniquely assignable then you can put the RF receiver inside the cabinet and run an IR emitter from one port to the front of one device. You may need to put a small IR emitter on the front of each TV from this box so each TV is uniquely controlled as well.

Example:
This is a Harmony RF receiver unit (I think it is for the 900 or something, I don't remember)


You can see that it has 4 IR outputs on it, labeled 'A', 'B', 'C', and 'D'.

When programming the Harmony RF, you can assign 'TV 1' to only use port 'A'. This way the RF signal travels to the base unit, then comes out as an IR signal which is on port 'A' only. There is an IR emitter that goes from port 'A' to the left TV.
When programming, you would assign 'TV 2' to Port 'B'. Similar to above, it would maintain discrete control of the right TV only when you need to control it.

Similarly, you would program cable 1 and cable 2 to only function on ports 'C' and 'D' respectively, and the one remote would uniquely control those cable (satellite, etc.) boxes.

If you have more gear to control, the RF receiver can have multi-headed IR emitters which can be used on other devices like your Blu-ray player, etc.

This is the typical way to run this type of setup and gives you a true 'one remote' solution.

More advanced systems, like Crestron and AMX handle IR devices in this exact manner as well.
post #7 of 10
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Originally Posted by AV_Integrated View Post

You don't need separate remotes.

If you have a RF receiver box made by Harmony, URC, or others which is uniquely assignable then you can put the RF receiver inside the cabinet and run an IR emitter from one port to the front of one device. You may need to put a small IR emitter on the front of each TV from this box so each TV is uniquely controlled as well.

....type of setup and gives you a true 'one remote' solution.

This is completely correct, and will work as a true one remote solution. However, I am only considering that the OP may need more than one remote; considering the two set ups. Usually the RF and the remote are "one for one". It will depend upon the full requirements of the OP for ease of use for his system.
post #8 of 10
If you want to control all of it with a tablet or smart phone you could look in to iRule (huge thread here in this forum). I use it to control 4 different Directv boxes with no issues. With a global cache itach ip2ir box you could configure this fairly easily.
post #9 of 10
But Directv is easy because its addressable. Identical TVs are not. So an IR only solution won't work in this case.
post #10 of 10
Well yes and no. With the itach and irule you can import 2 versions of the same commands. Asssign one to output 1 of the itach and the 2nd to output 2. Commands on your remote for box one will only go to the ir bud attached to box one. The commands are the same but are only sent to the desired box. An ir blaster would be a problem.

In full disclosure I use IP commands for DTV control and use 4 versions of the same commands but each is associated to a specific DTV IP address.

Many irule users control multiple versions of the same device with ir in the manner I described.
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