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post #211 of 1342
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Originally Posted by tighr View Post

Did you miss the whole "Call the FAA" note written down on the pad after the plane crash?

Like I said above, it's been one hour. Not nearly enough time for exposition. Let the show grow organically. I anticipate at LEAST one entire episode completely devoted to digging under the wall or trying to escape.

No, I didn't miss that. But that was the only attempt to communicate in or out - despite seeing firefighters, police, military personnel - whatever outside. Not a single attempt was made to communicate beyond the FAA scribble. The pull-out at the end showed a considerable presence from the outside world. And not a single person actually trying to communicate with those inside. Just struck me as strange.
post #212 of 1342
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Originally Posted by Otto Pylot View Post

Sure hope nobody lights up after about a week or so...... it could be a very short series wink.gif
post #213 of 1342
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Originally Posted by Mike99 View Post

TV Guide says this is supposed to be a limited run 13 week "TV Event".

I liked the first episode but think more programs should be mini-series to some degree.

They've already said this numerous times, the goal is to make this a regular series if the numbers prove viable.
post #214 of 1342
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Originally Posted by rolltide1017 View Post

Why is there always a character that just stares straight up and something falling towards them without moving, like the kid does when the plane is falling. There is not a person on this planet who wouldn't start running. Reminds me of the scene in Superman 2 where the mom just stands there with her baby carriage as the radio tower falls, for like 20 seconds, instead of just walking 15 feet out of harms way. Just annoys me when characters do that.

Other then that nitpick, I enjoyed the show and will continue watching. No to go and read that Wikipedia book summary! smile.gif

Just read the book summary and I bet the TV show changes the source and reason for the dome. I hope not though because it sounds very interesting but, Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
network TV seems scared of aliens these days.

It's called paralyzed by fear, well documented and happens all the time.
post #215 of 1342
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Originally Posted by Flambe View Post

Imagine how smoggy it's gonna get inside that dome. A closed ecosystem with that many people and no electricity means a lot of people burning candles & lighting fires. The air quality is going to go into Beijing territory, and soon.

I was disappointed how many cliches were in the show - the troubled girl who's diabetic - the lovers on either side of the wall - the whole "bad guy kills one guy and his wife starts liking him" thing - the power struggle between the town councilman and the sherrif...

Why didn't anyone outside (or inside) the dome start communicating via written messages? I didn't see anyone outside hold up a sign trying to start a dialog. It seems like it's one of the first things you'd do.

A few things I did like: the semi crashing into the barrier was crazy and imaginative. The redhead is hot. The seizure kid and the 'stars are falling' thing adds to the air of mystery. The total lack of sound going through the barrier - they did a good job with that. During the early part of the scene with the fire engines (where the 'bad guy' stops them from crashing into the dome) I was thinking "boy the sound engineer really screwed up" until I realized it was intentional.

I'll be watching.

It has been minutes since it happend. It hasn't been hours or days. She did write/communicate to call the FAA. People also don't walk around carrying pens and paper to write with. Again, it just happened minutes ago, give them time to actually go get something to write with/on.

The power struggle between the sherrif and councilman was resolved in the last few minutes of the show.
post #216 of 1342
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Originally Posted by HDTVChallenged View Post

PS: If it wasn't "outside" the dome then there's a basic physics/geometry issue ... domes be curved ... although I suppose you could make the case that the debris "slid down" the inside of the surface from the impact point, but to me it appeared that the debris fell pretty much straight down (which isn't really right either, physics-wise.) .... Then again, maybe it was just the beer goggles. biggrin.gif

If it WAS outside and hit the dome, THEN it would of slid down the dome, if it hit on the inside of a curve, the debris would of fallen straight down just like it did. Some debris would of carried forward but don't forget, just like the semi, the dome is not giving or anything, all mommentum would of carried the rest of the plane forward into the same spot and since the dome is curving farther out, the debris would of fallen straight down. Your post has it backwards, the town is on the inside of the curve. If it hits that curve there is nothing to slide down as the wall if curving away from you, not under you.
post #217 of 1342
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Originally Posted by WilliamR View Post

If it WAS outside and hit the dome, THEN it would of slid down the dome, if it hit on the inside of a curve, the debris would of fallen straight down just like it did. Some debris would of carried forward but don't forget, just like the semi, the dome is not giving or anything, all mommentum would of carried the rest of the plane forward into the same spot and since the dome is curving farther out, the debris would of fallen straight down. Your post has it backwards, the town is on the inside of the curve. If it hits that curve there is nothing to slide down as the wall if curving away from you, not under you.

He would have figured that out once he took off the physics-inverting beer goggles. tongue.gif

Although to be fair, the Dome is very large and the curve is very slight. Near the ground it would be nearly vertical.
post #218 of 1342
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Originally Posted by keenan View Post


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post #219 of 1342
I think everyone is missing the obvious: When the plane crashed, we heard it. The debris also falls inside the dome. If it had been outside the dome, they would not have heard the approaching plane (no sound waves!), and the debris would not have fallen inside the dome.

Bazinga! Solved.
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Originally Posted by Flambe View Post

No, I didn't miss that. But that was the only attempt to communicate in or out - despite seeing firefighters, police, military personnel - whatever outside. Not a single attempt was made to communicate beyond the FAA scribble. The pull-out at the end showed a considerable presence from the outside world. And not a single person actually trying to communicate with those inside. Just struck me as strange.

I didn't see all those military personnel and police and giant lights and helicopters and media and everything show up... they must have been there the whole time, because we were never shown them arriving. They were just there. Yep, because when we don't see things on screen explicitly, they don't happen.

I also fully anticipate a future episode completely consisting of one person communicating to another person outside the dome via pad and pen. Just watch. Probably that cop lady with her firefighter boyfriend.
post #220 of 1342
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Originally Posted by tighr View Post


I also fully anticipate a future episode completely consisting of one person communicating to another person outside the dome via pad and pen. Just watch. Probably that cop lady with her firefighter boyfriend.
Texting old school style. wink.gif
post #221 of 1342
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Originally Posted by tighr View Post

I think everyone is missing the obvious: When the plane crashed, we heard it. The debris also falls inside the dome. If it had been outside the dome, they would not have heard the approaching plane (no sound waves!), and the debris would not have fallen inside the dome.

Bazinga! Solved.
I didn't see all those military personnel and police and giant lights and helicopters and media and everything show up... they must have been there the whole time, because we were never shown them arriving. They were just there. Yep, because when we don't see things on screen explicitly, they don't happen.

I also fully anticipate a future episode completely consisting of one person communicating to another person outside the dome via pad and pen. Just watch. Probably that cop lady with her firefighter boyfriend.

We were very specifically shown the Army vehicles arriving...... Go back and look.
post #222 of 1342
Finally watched the pilot episode. Gotta say I enjoyed it. I do like King's mini series better than his theatrical films.
post #223 of 1342
I see CBS has scheduled a replay of the pilot episode for Sunday night at 9PM.
post #224 of 1342
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Originally Posted by WilliamR View Post

If it WAS outside and hit the dome, THEN it would of slid down the dome, if it hit on the inside of a curve, the debris would of fallen straight down just like it did. Some debris would of carried forward but don't forget, just like the semi, the dome is not giving or anything, all mommentum would of carried the rest of the plane forward into the same spot and since the dome is curving farther out, the debris would of fallen straight down. Your post has it backwards, the town is on the inside of the curve. If it hits that curve there is nothing to slide down as the wall if curving away from you, not under you.

No ... no .. no ... *Inside* the dome, the forward momentum of the debris would have caused said debris to "stick" on the inside surface and gravity would have done its thing and pulled the whole mess down ... all toward the intersection of the dome and the ground. The point is that, At altitude, the impact point would have quite distance *back* from the intersection of the dome and the ground. The only way the debris falls straight down and still lands near the intersection of the dome and ground is if the dome has almost zero curvature. smile.gif

Conversely, if the impact was *outside* of the dome, the forward momentum would have worked against gravity and caused the debris to travel *upward* along the dome surface for a time, before gravity eventually would have won out and pulled the whole mess backwards back down the dome.

Upon further review of the tape, *neither* of these options were actually depicted. What we saw was the plane smacking into the dome at altitude on the inside, and the debris bouncing *backwards,* but some how still managing to fall (straight down) very near the intersection of the dome and the ground. Bzzzz. Wrong answer. Even my drunken lizard brain could tell something didn't look right ... hence my confusion. biggrin.gif

PS: The following (smoke spot) frame clearly showed the that the impact occurred at a reasonably high altitude. So blame it on the beer and continuity errors ... I guess. biggrin.gif
Edited by HDTVChallenged - 6/28/13 at 12:04am
post #225 of 1342
This over-analysis is reminding me of the discussion about how the plane broke up incorrectly on Lost. Then it was revealed it was caused by a magnetic death ray on a magic island and it all seemed kind of pointless.

The dome will be found to have some kind of kinetic sub-molecular magnetic property created by nanoparticles and the attraction is directly proportional to the inertia of the object that hits it and then all this will be in vain. biggrin.gif
post #226 of 1342
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Originally Posted by HDTVChallenged View Post

No ... no .. no ... *Inside* the dome, the forward momentum of the debris would have caused said debris to "stick" on the inside surface and gravity would have done its thing and pulled the whole mess down ... all toward the intersection of the dome and the ground. The point is that, At altitude, the impact point would have quite distance *back* from the intersection of the dome and the ground. The only way the debris falls straight down and still lands near the intersection of the dome and ground is if the dome has almost zero curvature. smile.gif

Conversely, if the impact was *outside* of the dome, the forward momentum would have worked against gravity and caused the debris to travel *upward* along the dome surface for a time, before gravity eventually would have won out and pulled the whole mess backwards back down the dome.

Upon further review of the tape, *neither* of these options were actually depicted. What we saw was the plane smacking into the dome at altitude on the inside, and the debris bouncing *backwards,* but some how still managing to fall (straight down) very near the intersection of the dome and the ground. Bzzzz. Wrong answer. Even my drunken lizard brain could tell something didn't look right ... hence my confusion. biggrin.gif

PS: The following (smoke spot) frame clearly showed the that the impact occurred at a reasonably high altitude. So blame it on the beer and continuity errors ... I guess. biggrin.gif

The dome is extremely large, the curve of it is hadly noticeable from their perspective when interacting with it. Just like the earth is completely curved, but so large you don't notice it. The debris may of travelled along the dome for a little bit but would of eventually fell straight down as gravity took over and the energy was spent from its momentum. From the plane's perspective, it hit a solid wall, not a curve.
Edited by WilliamR - 6/28/13 at 9:52am
post #227 of 1342
Well said William. What viewers have to remember is that the dome is very large and covers the entire township of Chester's Mill, many square miles. And because it's a semispherical dome, it goes up according to the circular radius - it's miles high. At ground level it would appear as a nearly vertical wall.
post #228 of 1342
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Originally Posted by bobby94928 View Post

We were very specifically shown the Army vehicles arriving...... Go back and look.

the post made by tighr was sarcasm .. go back and look
post #229 of 1342
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Originally Posted by Flambe View Post

Imagine how smoggy it's gonna get inside that dome. A closed ecosystem with that many people and no electricity means a lot of people burning candles & lighting fires. The air quality is going to go into Beijing territory, and soon.
That issue is addressed in the book- but they may just ignore it for the series.
If you're curious about the air quality inside the dome- see the Wiki for the book... but be warned- it may be a spoiler for the TV series too...
post #230 of 1342
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Originally Posted by replayrob View Post

That issue is addressed in the book- but they may just ignore it for the series.
If you're curious about the air quality inside the dome- see the Wiki for the book... but be warned- it may be a spoiler for the TV series too...

For those that decide to read the WIKI .. although it might not be a full blown series spoiler, it most certainly will be a spoiler to a large degree .. it's, in fact, pretty much the Cliffs Notes ..
post #231 of 1342
If you just want to enjoy the series as it unfolds and be "surprised", then you'd be doing yourself a disservice by reading the Cliff Notes or Wiki. Suffice it to say things get really bad in there very quickly. tongue.gif
post #232 of 1342
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Originally Posted by archiguy View Post

If you just want to enjoy the series as it unfolds and be "surprised", then you'd be doing yourself a disservice by reading the Cliff Notes or Wiki. Suffice it to say things get really bad in there very quickly. tongue.gif

Exactly ...
post #233 of 1342
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Originally Posted by archiguy View Post

If you just want to enjoy the series as it unfolds and be "surprised", then you'd be doing yourself a disservice by reading the Cliff Notes or Wiki. Suffice it to say things get really bad in there very quickly. tongue.gif

Actually, I'm REALLY glad somebody posted the suggestion to read the Wiki. I read the first episode script before it went into production, and at the time, I thought it was pretty boring with some really cardboard cutout characters. Seeing the finished episode on the screen last week did nothing to change that opinion. And now that I've read the wiki and know where its headed, I can happily dismiss the rest of the series and know that I'm not missing anything.

Now I know why so many of you complained about the ending of the book earlier in the thread. If I watched 13 hours of this show and got that ending, I would go 'Silver Linings Playbook' and throw my TV out the window. So thanks again for the warning.
post #234 of 1342
Some things about the plane crash;

Dome is big enough to allow a plane to take off and gain a good altitude, but the perspective from outside it seems way smaller
post #235 of 1342
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Originally Posted by vfxproducer View Post

Actually, I'm REALLY glad somebody posted the suggestion to read the Wiki. I read the first episode script before it went into production, and at the time, I thought it was pretty boring with some really cardboard cutout characters. Seeing the finished episode on the screen last week did nothing to change that opinion. And now that I've read the wiki and know where its headed, I can happily dismiss the rest of the series and know that I'm not missing anything.

Now I know why so many of you complained about the ending of the book earlier in the thread. If I watched 13 hours of this show and got that ending, I would go 'Silver Linings Playbook' and throw my TV out the window. So thanks again for the warning.

Kind of a summation of how I felt after 121 episodes of "Lost"
post #236 of 1342
Sadly that was the case for pretty much the entire last season of Lost. The word itself sums up how I felt about the producers in the end.
post #237 of 1342
This is Purgatory! I called it first
post #238 of 1342
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Originally Posted by DrLar View Post

Some things about the plane crash;

Dome is big enough to allow a plane to take off and gain a good altitude, but the perspective from outside it seems way smaller

I believe the plane was already in the air and flying across town when the dome went up (over the town). The plane crashed into the dome minutes after it going up so it would of most likely been in flight already to crash so fast.
post #239 of 1342
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Originally Posted by WilliamR View Post

I believe the plane was already in the air and flying across town when the dome went up (over the town). The plane crashed into the dome minutes after it going up so it would of most likely been in flight already to crash so fast.

Correct.
post #240 of 1342
At the end I could see a military helicopter flying right into the dome. Maybe it was just a CG mistake.
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