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post #301 of 1342
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Originally Posted by DrLar View Post

It doesn't encompass the entire town, remember all the houses and stuff that got cut by the dome, that house on fire was right at the edge. (whoever or whatever put it there must have miscalculated)

What about the lake or body of water down south? judging by the kids map the dome should encompass some of it, have they tried swimming under it?

Yes it does ecompass the town. The stuff that was cut through, the house, the barn, etc. was the outlying farmlands where someone had a house or barn on the edge where the dome came down. The main town is completely covered as well as surrounding farm land.
post #302 of 1342
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Originally Posted by billybobg View Post

I liked the premier, havn't caught up on last night, yet. I'm not going to go into the physics of the dome as I'll buy in that its there and some technologically advanced entity has put it there for some yet to be deduced reason. I didn't like the introduction of the kidnapping, but as someone else mentioned, the town and the stories Under the Dome will involve a micorcosm of society so I'll let it evolve. I'm a bit surprised that there has not been a discussion of what the kids who convulsed were muttering. I can't recall it all, but I thought it was along the lines of "The stars ar falling, the stars are falling straight down" or something to that effect. Does that portend that the dome will be protection for a small segment of humanity or something more related to the originators. Also, why no communication with outside authorities using...wait, wait,....written messages on a white board? Old school, but why not? Maybe next episode. Anyway, I'm pulled in enough to keep watching.

You need to read some of the past posts. They did write on something. Remember, after the dome came down, we are only seeing a few minutes, or a few hours, no one had run back to get a white board and start writting, almost the entire town didn't even know what was happening. The cop did write on something though. In the premiere, which you said is all you watched, very little time had passed so the idea of the white board could still happen, its just not everyone carries one wth them.
post #303 of 1342
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Originally Posted by darthrsg View Post

Episode 2. Still good. The little King touches are nice. That thin veneer of society peeling back is his best playground. My copy of the book arrives Wednesday. I'll stack the show up on the DVR until I'm finished with it.

Read fast, it is one of his largest books he has ever done. The book is a beast with large sections very boring. By the time you are done reading it we may be in season 3. smile.gif
post #304 of 1342
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Originally Posted by WilliamR View Post

Read fast, it is one of his largest books he has ever done. The book is a beast with large sections very boring. By the time you are done reading it we may be in season 3. smile.gif

That will be fine. I don't live and die by the TV.
post #305 of 1342
Anyone has that screenshot of the map the kid is doing the calculations? I just want to make sure that not all of the town was domed, IIRC the kids are waling on the edge and you could see some houses and stuff outside.

Has anyone confirmed that you could see from outside? I doubt the soldiers ignored the nice looking Julia getting naked (but I guess she lied), also the guys with the water house didn't react to the kids confirming that the some water gets thru
post #306 of 1342
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Originally Posted by DrLar View Post

Has anyone confirmed that you could see from outside?
In the Pilot, Barbee is waving his hands to stop the firetruck, and the firetruck slams on its brakes and the driver gets out to yell at him before being stopped by the wall. Pretty decent indication that the dome is two-way translucent.
post #307 of 1342
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Originally Posted by tighr View Post

In the Pilot, Barbee is waving his hands to stop the firetruck, and the firetruck slams on its brakes and the driver gets out to yell at him before being stopped by the wall. Pretty decent indication that the dome is two-way translucent.

Not trying to correct you here, however, the dome is clear on my TV .. translucent would indicate it is semitransparent and could be seen ..
post #308 of 1342
I guess the soldiers and personnel outside have pretty straight orders to ignore the townsfolk inside..
post #309 of 1342
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Originally Posted by DrLar View Post

Anyone has that screenshot of the map the kid is doing the calculations? I just want to make sure that not all of the town was domed, IIRC the kids are waling on the edge and you could see some houses and stuff outside.

All of the township of Chester's Mill is domed. Every square inch, and then some. Again, remember that some artistic liberties are being taken by the producers because of the limitations of the medium and not every image you see will be an accurate reflection of the actual conditions affecting the residents.

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Originally Posted by DrLar View Post

I guess the soldiers and personnel outside have pretty straight orders to ignore the townsfolk inside..

Correct. They've been told not to interfere. In the book there are some exceptions that may or may not translate to the series. Since the dome is completely clear, both sides can see everything that happens on the other side (within their field of view).
post #310 of 1342
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Originally Posted by mgkdragn View Post

Not trying to correct you here, however, the dome is clear on my TV .. translucent would indicate it is semitransparent and could be seen ..
Not trying to correct you here, but transparent is to translucent as a square is a rectangle. You may be thinking of opaque, which the dome is not.

Translucent is defined as a material that allows light to pass through it.
Transparant is a defined as a material that allows light to pass through it, unaltered.

When they touch the dome, there is a rippling effect that alters the refraction point of the light on the other side; therefore it is translucent.

Either way, it has been portrayed both ways so far. We see it as "Invisible" when up close, but the establishing shots from overhead you can make out the shape of it, which lends itself to having slight opacity. That's probably an artistic license by the graphics designers.
post #311 of 1342
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Originally Posted by WilliamR View Post

You need to read some of the past posts. They did write on something. Remember, after the dome came down, we are only seeing a few minutes, or a few hours, no one had run back to get a white board and start writting, almost the entire town didn't even know what was happening. The cop did write on something though. In the premiere, which you said is all you watched, very little time had passed so the idea of the white board could still happen, its just not everyone carries one wth them.

Thanks. Anything about the what the kids who convulse are saying? Still surprised that there are no other comments about the stars falling.
post #312 of 1342
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Originally Posted by tighr View Post

Not trying to correct you here, but transparent is to translucent as a square is a rectangle. You may be thinking of opaque, which the dome is not.

Translucent is defined as a material that allows light to pass through it.
Transparant is a defined as a material that allows light to pass through it, unaltered.

When they touch the dome, there is a rippling effect that alters the refraction point of the light on the other side; therefore it is translucent.

Either way, it has been portrayed both ways so far. We see it as "Invisible" when up close, but the establishing shots from overhead you can make out the shape of it, which lends itself to having slight opacity. That's probably an artistic license by the graphics designers.

As I said, the dome is clear on my TV .. the bloody handprint was suspended in space .. and I'm not talking about when someone touches it .. translucent would indicate a diffusing of light so objects within do not appear fully clearly .. as it is, untouched, the dome is clearly "transparent" .. but, I suppose you can argue semantics .. one man's transparent could be another man's translucent .. to me, it is transparent
post #313 of 1342
But it seems it's becoming more visible, because of all the dirt and stuff sticking to it, if you could see some shots, dirt already settled on the floor level of the dome. Kind of a dirty window
post #314 of 1342
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Originally Posted by WilliamR View Post

Yes it does ecompass the town. The stuff that was cut through, the house, the barn, etc. was the outlying farmlands where someone had a house or barn on the edge where the dome came down. The main town is completely covered as well as surrounding farm land.

But how does that fit to what we saw in the second episode where the house on fire looked like it was pretty much surround by other houses, at least to the inside of the dome. And the edge of the dome was right next to the burned down house.

Maybe Chester's Mill is a shape shifting town?
post #315 of 1342
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Originally Posted by BoilerJim View Post

Uh, I think you need a decimal point rather than a comma. A dome over 2,000 miles in diameter will encompass more than one town unless it's in the middle of the Pacific Ocean.

Some countries use the comma as a decimal marker. Since the calculation is 4200 m, that is obviously the case here.

However, I just got done watching the show. The kid measuring the dome (in the show) and doing a bunch of calculations SAID the dome was 10 mi in diameter. Now, maybe in the showm he was flunking math and was wrong, but per the script the dome is 10 mi in diameter.
post #316 of 1342
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Originally Posted by JohnS-MI View Post

Now, maybe in the showm he was flunking math and was wrong, but per the script the dome is 10 mi in diameter.

The show says he's a genius smart kid, or at least some dumb kid said he was a smart kid.
post #317 of 1342
So whom exactly is the dome keeping in? wink.gif Maybe the jilted lover is on to something? If it's a King book there has to be a twist somewhere?
post #318 of 1342
I'm trying very hard to get into this but it just doesn't grab me. I'm a Stephen King fan (have not read this particular book) but......
post #319 of 1342
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Originally Posted by archiguy View Post

The Dome is semi-permeable and now they've established that in the show. The Big Retcon is it's apparently soundproof and impervious to certain electromagnetic spectrum (like radio and cell phone frequencies). This violates the "rules" that King established in the book. If the Dome is slightly permeable to air and water, then sound would necessarily have to pass through, if somewhat muffled. If the visible light portion of the electromagnetic spectrum is fully permeable, then radio waves should penetrate as well. The screenwriters are re-writing the Laws of Physics to fit their perceived script requirements. It remains to be seen if that was really necessary, or they were just taking the easy way out. We'll know in a few months.

I haven't read the book... so I can't compare...

but, something that allows air and water to pass through doesn't necessarily have to pass sound through in any meaningful way.

The kid said "like a strainer"... which might be apt here... if the dome is resisting things passing through, but permitting air and water and some other similar substances to pass through if enough force is applied... then that process would most likely also stop/diffuse most normal sounds from coming through.

We would have to see them performing some experiments outside with increasing noise generation to see how loud something could be and still not be heard. It is entirely possible that some sound could pass through the dome... but it would have to be very loud to do so.

So, I can't compare to the book... but based on the two episodes so far... they haven't fully proven whether or not the dome is fully soundproof.
post #320 of 1342
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Originally Posted by archiguy View Post

The producers have to create striking visuals for the TV screen. In "reality" (the reality of the plotline), the Dome is much bigger than that. In the show, SmartKid does some field measurements and indicates the Dome is some 10 miles in diameter. In the book it was somewhat bigger, but figure 100-200 square miles underneath the Dome and that should be close enough. The only important thing to remember is that it encompasses the entire town and some surrounding woods and farmland.

Actually, I have a problem with "SmartKid's" work. He says, "So far it looks like it's 10 miles across (a diameter,)" but the diagram on his paper *appears* to show the radius at 10 miles, plus some Pythagorean scribblings ending in 21.something/2 ~ 10.559 ... my brain hurts. biggrin.gif

OTOH, the marked up map seems to support it being 10mi in diameter. I'm confused. Maybe he's just really bad at graphing?
post #321 of 1342
The thing that bothered me most (aside from people frivolously wasting gasoline driving themselves everywhere) was how they wasted good drinking water in a futile attempt to douse the house. It was a lost cause from the beginning, so they should have tried to knock down and remove nearby fuel and let the fire run its course contained, rather than shooting squirtguns of their limited water supply at it.
post #322 of 1342
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Originally Posted by DrLar View Post

Anyone has that screenshot of the map the kid is doing the calculations? I just want to make sure that not all of the town was domed, IIRC the kids are waling on the edge and you could see some houses and stuff outside.

"SmartKid's" map clearly shows the dome cutting off part of the town on the right side of the TV screen ... not sure what that translates to in show directions.
post #323 of 1342
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Originally Posted by DrLar View Post

Anyone has that screenshot of the map the kid is doing the calculations? I just want to make sure that not all of the town was domed, IIRC the kids are waling on the edge and you could see some houses and stuff outside.

I assume you mean the scene near the beginning, when the kid is trying to calculate the size of the dome. There are no clean shots of it when it isn't partially covered by something, so here are two separate shots to let you scrutinise it to your heart's content.

Note: In uploading these images, I claim fair use, in that a) these images are solely for the purpose of comment, and b) they do not represent a substantial portion of the original work, in that they are 2 out of the original 62 000 frames contained within the episode, or 0.003% of it.



Edited by Aleron Ives - 7/3/13 at 1:56pm
post #324 of 1342
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Originally Posted by CarlosFo View Post

But how does that fit to what we saw in the second episode where the house on fire looked like it was pretty much surround by other houses, at least to the inside of the dome. And the edge of the dome was right next to the burned down house.

Maybe Chester's Mill is a shape shifting town?

The entire town is under the dome. What you are seeing are houses on the outskirts, in the farmland, rural areas, etc. It is just like every other town out there, I live in a township, thousands of houses in our estate, the farther you go out the less, but there are numerous houses in the woods, spotty through out the area. Not sure what the big hang up is just because there is a house on one side of the dome and the other side too. There are a lot of houses out there, they aren't out in the middle of the redwood forest with a few houses, there are thousands out there in a populated area, the next town could even be close to the edge of the dome since it is 10 miles wide. If I drive 10 miles, I am going to come across another town in almost every direction from my house, but yet they could still encompass my entire town, and then some in that dome.
post #325 of 1342
NEW YORK (AP) — The CBS drama "Under the Dome" has the potential to be a game-changer for network television.

An estimated 13.5 million people watched the debut a week ago Monday of the summer series based on a Stephen King book about an invisible dome landing over a small town, the Nielsen company said. It's been 20 years since a new summertime drama opened so strongly.

An additional 3.2 million people watched "Under the Dome" either on their DVRs or by ordering it through an on-demand service, Nielsen said. CBS reran the premiere Sunday night, and 5.1 million people watched.

Numbers that big surely compel a response in television executive suites. Even before "Under the Dome," Fox had talked about creating big event dramas with a limited run, including a return of "24." Broadcast networks have wondered for years how to stem erosion during the summer, and a successful drama came along at just about the time the reality franchises they had been relying on were beginning to age.

The second episode of "Under the Dome" that aired this Monday was seen by 11.5 million viewers.

CBS said it will air 13 episodes before it ends in September. Its executives have talked about continuing the series beyond that, most likely next summer.

CBS won the week in prime time, averaging 5.7 million viewers. NBC had 4.9 million viewers, ABC had 3.7 million, Univision had 3.6 million, Fox had 3.3 million, Telemundo had 1.8 million, ION Television had 1.3 million and the CW had 710,000.

USA was the week's most popular cable network, averaging 2.7 million viewers in prime time. TNT had 2.4 million, The Disney Channel had 2.3 million, History had 2.13 million and TBS had 2.05 million.

NBC's "Nightly News" topped the evening newscasts with an average of 7.5 million viewers. ABC's "World News" was second with 6.7 million and the "CBS Evening News" had 6.1 million viewers.

For the week of June 24-30, the top 10 shows, their networks and viewerships: "Under the Dome," CBS, 13.53 million; "America's Got Talent" (Tuesday), NBC, 10.23 million; "NCIS," CBS, 8.37 million; NHL Stanley Cup Final, Game 6: Chicago vs. Boston, NBC, 8.16 million; "The Big Bang Theory" (Thursday, 8 p.m.), CBS, 8.15 million; "The Big Bang Theory" (Monday, 9:30 p.m.), CBS, 7.35 million; "60 Minutes," CBS, 7.17 million; "The Big Bang Theory" (Monday, 9 p.m.), CBS, 6.65 million; "The Bachelorette," ABC, 6.56 million; "Big Brother 15" (Wednesday), CBS, 6.51 million.

http://www.sfgate.com/entertainment/article/Look-for-Under-the-Dome-to-influence-TV-future-4643235.php
post #326 of 1342
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Originally Posted by WilliamR View Post

NEW YORK (AP) — The CBS drama "Under the Dome" has the potential to be a game-changer for network television.

 

I will never understand ratings much less the initial ratings a show gets. This show is virtually as cookie cutter as a unlimited number of other shows. Many of them come and go within a couple of weeks. I'm guessing having King attached to it helped the buzz... initial ratings. After two episodes I have seen nothing that makes it more entertaining than pretty much picking a channel at random.

 

Or perhaps not since for over a decade I have been DVRing and haven't picked one since the '90s. smile.gif


Edited by Charles R - 7/3/13 at 5:36am
post #327 of 1342
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Originally Posted by Charles R View Post

I will never understand ratings much less the initial ratings a show gets. This show is virtually as cookie cutter as a unlimited number of other shows. Many of them come and go within a couple of weeks. I'm guessing having King attached to it helped the buzz... initial ratings. After two episodes I have seen nothing that makes it more entertaining than pretty much picking a channel at random.

Or perhaps not since for over a decade I have been DVRing and haven't picked one since the '90s. smile.gif

I think you answered your own question. Something gets you to schedule a show on your DVR. That something might be a preview-trailer on another channel, a press release, or the undefined "buzz" that permeates through the media landscape. Maybe even a recommendation from a friend. All of those factors and more go into whether a show gets a big initial sampling. The King name attached to this pretty much guaranteed a lot of people would give it a shot. They can't depend on folks just surfing around and stumbling on a given show anymore.
post #328 of 1342
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Originally Posted by WilliamR View Post

The entire town is under the dome. What you are seeing are houses on the outskirts, in the farmland, rural areas, etc. It is just like every other town out there, I live in a township, thousands of houses in our estate, the farther you go out the less, but there are numerous houses in the woods, spotty through out the area. Not sure what the big hang up is just because there is a house on one side of the dome and the other side too. There are a lot of houses out there, they aren't out in the middle of the redwood forest with a few houses, there are thousands out there in a populated area, the next town could even be close to the edge of the dome since it is 10 miles wide. If I drive 10 miles, I am going to come across another town in almost every direction from my house, but yet they could still encompass my entire town, and then some in that dome.
You don't get it. All people today live in urban areas. WHAT ARE THESE WOODS YOU SPEAK OF? smile.gif
post #329 of 1342
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Originally Posted by WilliamR View Post

If I drive 10 miles, I am going to come across another town in almost every direction from my house, but yet they could still encompass my entire town, and then some in that dome.

You must live east of the Mississippi. smile.gif
post #330 of 1342
^^^Last time I looked Maine was east of the Mississippi.wink.gif

Speculation as to the size, permeability, transparency, and sound deadening properties of the dome aside I like this show a lot. Like most King stuff it's more about the underlying evil vs good characters than technical details.
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