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post #331 of 1342
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Originally Posted by Steve S View Post

^^^Last time I looked Maine was east of the Mississippi.wink.gif

Speculation as to the size, permeability, transparency, and sound deadening properties of the dome aside I like this show a lot. Like most King stuff it's more about the underlying evil vs good characters than technical details.

Careful with rational positive stuff around here.
post #332 of 1342
I thought it was weird that Duke's house was on the edge of the town near the dome. So is reporter lady's. So is smartkid's.

Practically all the main characters we've been introduced so far live near the edge of the dome. But at 10 miles in diameter, there should be people who live in the center of the dome, right?
post #333 of 1342
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Originally Posted by tighr View Post

I thought it was weird that Duke's house was on the edge of the town near the dome. So is reporter lady's. So is smartkid's.

Practically all the main characters we've been introduced so far live near the edge of the dome. But at 10 miles in diameter, there should be people who live in the center of the dome, right?

It matters how?
post #334 of 1342
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Originally Posted by Charles R View Post

I will never understand ratings much less the initial ratings a show gets. This show is virtually as cookie cutter as a unlimited number of other shows. Many of them come and go within a couple of weeks. I'm guessing having King attached to it helped the buzz... initial ratings. After two episodes I have seen nothing that makes it more entertaining than pretty much picking a channel at random.

Agreed, there's nothing special or different about this show other than the King plot tie-in. Same trite characters and absurd plotlines as pretty much any other network show. I'm sticking with it because of the dome just out of curiosity but the kidnapping subplot in particular is just beyond stupid, the lone commish in charge is a rug-chewing scene snatcher and then they finish this week's ep with a cop going crazy almost instantly after the dome comes down. Seriously?
post #335 of 1342
I think one of the main reasons I am tending to like the show is the fact that I read the book and am enjoying the way it's unfolding on screen .. although some of the characters had much more depth in the book ..
post #336 of 1342
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Originally Posted by Charles R View Post

I will never understand ratings much less the initial ratings a show gets. This show is virtually as cookie cutter as a unlimited number of other shows. Many of them come and go within a couple of weeks. I'm guessing having King attached to it helped the buzz... initial ratings. After two episodes I have seen nothing that makes it more entertaining than pretty much picking a channel at random.

The article calls it a game changer, but what I noticed in the ratings was that 2 million people, or roughly 15% of the audience, decided that it wasn't worth watching a second episode. If the ratings continue to drop like that week by week, it won't be any more of a game changer than any other TV show that started with good rating and then tanked. The Geena Davis show Commander-in-Chief comes to mind.
post #337 of 1342
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Originally Posted by vfxproducer View Post


The article calls it a game changer, but what I noticed in the ratings was that 2 million people, or roughly 15% of the audience, decided that it wasn't worth watching a second episode.

 

I wasn't really addressing the game changer as I dismissed that from the get go. I just find it interesting (perplexing) why/how America decides what to watch or not watch...  As an example the Dating show NBC attempted to kick start by airing it right after The Voice. The first episode had like three viewers, the second two viewers and they pulled the rest of the episodes entirely.

 

I'm guessing NBC thought they had the answer to The Bachelor/Bachelorette. Somehow only three people tuned in... so in essence it was doomed before it even aired as not enough people even tuned in (site unseen) for it to survive.

post #338 of 1342
I like the show and will continue to watch.

My main nitpick is that every time there is some kind of drama outside of a house, that house ends up being right next to the dome. The reporters house and Duke's house both appeared to be in decent size neighborhoods but, both the map and the aerial shot at the end of ep. 1 show no neighborhoods that close to the dome. I understand what some of you are saying about people living out in rural areas but, those house were shown to be in decent size neighborhoods, at least that's how it appeared to me. It's just a getting old that all the big drama seems to take place at the edge of the dome. Not a big deal, just a nitpick, otherwise I'm enjoying the show.
post #339 of 1342
My main nitpick from the latest episode is the two scientist spraying water against the dome. The scene looked so hilarious. Two guys in white coat supported by two military guys. The whole setup looked totally unprofessional, almost like a joke. And the scientist seemed in no way interested in the boys touching the dome finding out that water actually gets through. Did they try to communicate with the boys with a letter and pin? No, not at all. Pffff, scientists... yeah for sure.

And the boys also didn't try to show them that water passes through. And they even had letter and pen at their hands.
post #340 of 1342
Holy shirt! A show about a town under a dome with drama occurring near the dome! smile.gif
post #341 of 1342
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Originally Posted by zarg7883 View Post

I don't think it's a "force field." It has friction, otherwise that bloody hand print wouldn't have stayed up.

It's the "Transparent Aluminum" Scotty made in Star Trek: The Voyage Home. wink.gif
post #342 of 1342
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Originally Posted by domino92024 View Post

It's the "Transparent Aluminum" Scotty made in Star Trek: The Voyage Home. wink.gif

When it appeared, it came with a thud like it had been dropped as opposed materializing. Maybe there's a beanstock in town???
post #343 of 1342
Man, this thread is physically draining and we are only two episodes in!!!. I am glad I stayed away from most the discussion in Lost over the years, I bet I would of had to of been hospitalized from exhaustion. biggrin.gif
post #344 of 1342
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Originally Posted by WilliamR View Post

Man, this thread is physically draining and we are only two episodes in!!!. I am glad I stayed away from most the discussion in Lost over the years, I bet I would of had to of been hospitalized from exhaustion. biggrin.gif
It was not uncommon for LOST to have three or four pages of comments on it's thread before the West Coast broadcast had even finished. It always took a while to catch up.
post #345 of 1342
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Originally Posted by darthrsg View Post

Holy shirt! A show about a town under a dome with drama occurring near the dome! smile.gif

LOL
post #346 of 1342
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Originally Posted by vfxproducer View Post

The article calls it a game changer, but what I noticed in the ratings was that 2 million people, or roughly 15% of the audience, decided that it wasn't worth watching a second episode.

after just watching the 2nd episode this evening...my wife & I decided for us, it'll be 1 more for that decision.
After this episode, I'm not sure it deserves the 3rd chance tongue.gif

why is it so hard for there to be good shows on network TV? especially ones with Spielberg's name on them.

the drama is laughable...a boyfriend imitation of The Collector rolleyes.gif I almost expected the girl's name to be Miranda instead of Angie wink.gif for those that don't know The Collector was a movie done in the 60's of a novel by Folkes.

then there's the idiot Rev who proceeds to trash the house instead of being stealthy about looking for the propane bill...nothing like ransacking a home to arouse the suspicion of a cop rolleyes.gif and they way that played out was stupid, yanking drawers out & throwing things on the floor, even if the Rev was on whatever drugs "they're making". the whole fire scene was stupid...why would any sane person light up the document and leave ashes, when all they had to do was steal it! how stupid does King & Spielberg think the audience / book reader is to accept this piece of trash, lazy writing?

the fire brigade...could someone have thought to start a siphon with several garden hoses in the pool to fill up buckets faster? the deal with the water supposedly seeping thru...alternate explanation: condensation from temperature differences, warm hand on a colder surface with cold water being sprayed on the other side. and water "leaking thru" says the dome is a permeable real surface, not a force field, that just happens to extend as far as one can dig below ground level. does it go to the center of the earth? biggrin.gif I can buy force field as a good scifi premise but now we're looking at a real dome it seems. well, if King wants that to be the premise, he has scientific inconsistencies to deal with like how far down does it go - it must have a boundary unless it goes all the way thru the crust, mantle, core, cutting the earth into 2 sections. so, how about the military getting with some drilling companies & start finding it? the whole idea starts breaking apart if you take it to its logical conclusion...a force field works much better wink.gif

unless the show improves rapidly, to me it looks like the other hyped "game changing" Spielberg show, Terra Nova.

while the scifi premise is "interesting", it looks like another show with a corrupt city pol, a conspiracy, a murderer in the same house as the murdered...that's original. Jericho NOT! now that was a well acted & scripted series, post apocalypse.

game changer? no, more like Peyton Place under glass.

I hope the book is much better than this adaptation so far. I've enjoyed many early King books.
Edited by ss9001 - 7/3/13 at 5:43pm
post #347 of 1342
I gotta' admit, I'm pretty disappointed so far. Maybe because I read the book thinking about the inevitable movie version (it is Stephen King; of course there's going to be a movie version) and this is pretty far from what I imagined. The book was way good enough, with enough material to fill up a solid 13 episodes, and the finale - probably over 2 episodes - would totally rock. But the story stops there.

I can't help wondering if this clumsy beginning and so much ret-conning of the characters and even the properties of the Dome itself are a result of trying to create an on-going multi-season summertime cash-cow for CBS. But King is evidently down with it (profitably so, no doubt), so maybe it gets better.
post #348 of 1342
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Originally Posted by archiguy View Post

I gotta' admit, I'm pretty disappointed so far. Maybe because I read the book thinking about the inevitable movie version (it is Stephen King; of course there's going to be a movie version) and this is pretty far from what I imagined. The book was way good enough, with enough material to fill up a solid 13 episodes, and the finale - probably over 2 episodes - would totally rock. But the story stops there.

I can't help wondering if this clumsy beginning and so much ret-conning of the characters and even the properties of the Dome itself are a result of trying to create an on-going multi-season summertime cash-cow for CBS. But King is evidently down with it (profitably so, no doubt), so maybe it gets better.

I would totally be OK with a series that was only one season and all self contained.
post #349 of 1342
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Originally Posted by HDMe2 View Post

but, something that allows air and water to pass through doesn't necessarily have to pass sound through in any meaningful way.

Right. Sound is a pressure wave. It's the wave that propagates, not the molecules. It's possible to reflect, absorb, dampen, and otherwise destroy the wave while remaining permeable to individual liquid or gas molecules, and it is also possible for solid materials to propagate or conduct sound waves from one gas or liquid to another without allowing any liquid or gas molecules to pass at all.


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I can't help wondering if this clumsy beginning and so much ret-conning of the characters and even the properties of the Dome itself are a result of trying to create an on-going multi-season summertime cash-cow for CBS.

That's certainly my take. I haven't read the book, but I did read the wiki page, and I frankly can't see how they can even keep the origin and purpose of the dome the same and still stretch it out over multiple seasons.


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Originally Posted by darthrsg View Post

I would totally be OK with a series that was only one season and all self contained.

I would have much preferred that. Multi-year soap opera in a snow globe is probably not going to work for me.
post #350 of 1342
I admit... the everything-near-the-dome thing would have bugged me in the past.... the "coincidence" of all the main characters in the show living right on the edge of the dome...

BUT...

think of it like this... in any town of any reasonable size... if you dropped a dome like this on it... a lot of people would be near the edge of the dome... so if you tell the story of those people, it isn't a coincidence at all...

Also, to be fair... the people living near the edge of the dome are going to notice it quite a bit more than the people living in the center of town where the dome didn't directly affect them... in fact, aside from the power/communication issues... the further you get inside the dome the easier it is not to even know it happened. I wouldn't be surprised if we find a character or two who still don't even know anything happened.
post #351 of 1342
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Originally Posted by darthrsg View Post

I would totally be OK with a series that was only one season and all self contained.

you may get your wish wink.gif
post #352 of 1342
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Originally Posted by joblo View Post

I haven't read the book, but I did read the wiki page, and I frankly can't see how they can even keep the origin and purpose of the dome the same and still stretch it out over multiple seasons. [...] Multi-year soap opera in a snow globe is probably not going to work for me.

I think this is exactly what they're aiming for. The dome itself will become irrelevant after the initial shock wears off for the citizens, and the remaining episodes/seasons will just focus on the various characters fighting over the remaining resources within the enclosed area. It's not necessarily unfaithful to the book to do that,
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since the dome's "purpose" in the book is to amuse the aliens who want to watch how the humans react to their confinement,

but it will get boring quickly as the characters devolve into the same manipulative, conniving, backstabbing people found in any soap opera. The writers can drag it on as long as they want before inserting some version of the book's ending in the final season. The show is pretty boring now, so I doubt I'll stick around long enough for them to get that far, though.
post #353 of 1342
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Originally Posted by ss9001 View Post

water "leaking thru" says the dome is a permeable real surface, not a force field, that just happens to extend as far as one can dig below ground level. does it go to the center of the earth? biggrin.gif I can buy force field as a good scifi premise but now we're looking at a real dome it seems. well, if King wants that to be the premise, he has scientific inconsistencies to deal with like how far down does it go - it must have a boundary unless it goes all the way thru the crust, mantle, core, cutting the earth into 2 sections. so, how about the military getting with some drilling companies & start finding it? the whole idea starts breaking apart if you take it to its logical conclusion...a force field works much better wink.gif

I go with solid dome. You can put a bloody handprint and spray paint and it adheres.

How deep does it go? I'll speculate that it's a spheroid.

The Army guys outside aren't talking to them because some high brass thinks someone inside may have created this. The Army doesn't know what it is. Therefore it must be considered as a potential hostile until they know more. Again, my considered opinion.
post #354 of 1342
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Originally Posted by ss9001 View Post

you may get your wish wink.gif
Seriously though.
post #355 of 1342
Confirmed that "SmartKid" needs to go back to class. Somebody needs to remind him that Sqrt(x) only equals 0.5(x) when x=4. (As opposed to x= 21.something.) biggrin.gif

I don't know where he got the a and b from but the correct solution to the Pythagorean formula (if that's how he's calculating radius) would have been 4.6 miles, making the diameter of the dome 9.2 miles. Unless it's all just gibberish. wink.gifbiggrin.gif Whew! I thought I was having a seizure there for awhile. smile.gif
post #356 of 1342
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Originally Posted by archiguy View Post

I gotta' admit, I'm pretty disappointed so far. Maybe because I read the book thinking about the inevitable movie version (it is Stephen King; of course there's going to be a movie version) and this is pretty far from what I imagined. The book was way good enough, with enough material to fill up a solid 13 episodes, and the finale - probably over 2 episodes - would totally rock. But the story stops there.

I can't help wondering if this clumsy beginning and so much ret-conning of the characters and even the properties of the Dome itself are a result of trying to create an on-going multi-season summertime cash-cow for CBS. But King is evidently down with it (profitably so, no doubt), so maybe it gets better.

I read the book, too, just because the TV show was coming up. I thought it (the book) would never end. Now I'm dreading that this farce will go on for more than 13 episodes.

Other than there being a dome over a township and characters with names the same as in the book, there is very little similarity, so far, to what occurs in the book. It is an adaptation which King has authorized. But since there are so few (OK, almost none) parallel happenings with the book, is it fair to title this thing the same as the book? I totally expected to see the events and characters of the book come alive on my TV screen. Nope. What a disappointment.

As far as the proximity of the dome to various buildings and homes, in the book it usually took a good car or bicycle ride from most settings to reach the perimeter. I was also amazed in the pilot to see Julia Shumway's hair blowing in the wind while she was talking with Barbie. Where'd that come from? Residual air circulation from before the dome appeared? There are just too many absurd inconsistencies with the book to permit the show's title to carry the book's. I will watch but with a far different perspective.
post #357 of 1342
Hair blowing in the wind? Good catch! OTOH who knows. In a dome that size with temperature and perhaps pressure variations even on that scale...
post #358 of 1342
OK, first of all wish the Sheriff was still around, guess they couldn't afford him
Biggest issue is the show has managed to de-hot Natalie Martinez, is it the uniform, did she bulk up, or is she possibly pregnant??? Still good, can she carry one of the lead roles??? Must be a conspiracy it started on CSI NY....Cop back to back..
Dean Norris looks good with the new bright white choppers.... Breaking Bad back next month.....
It's summer fare, why not...
post #359 of 1342
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Originally Posted by ridgefamus View Post

I will watch but with a far different perspective.

Yeah, that's kind of how I'm looking at it. Was hoping for a more faithful adaptation of the book - that would have rocked and rocked hard - but this is what we've got. It will probably be very entertaining to anyone who hasn't read the book however, no matter what they do, and that's who it's marketed to (and quite successfully according to the all-powerful Nielsen company). It's summertime and the livin' is easy...

You want something to sink your teeth into? Dean Norris is coming back to the screen in a far different role in a few weeks to make amends. wink.gif
post #360 of 1342
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Originally Posted by ridgefamus View Post

I read the book, too, just because the TV show was coming up. I thought it (the book) would never end. Now I'm dreading that this farce will go on for more than 13 episodes....There are just too many absurd inconsistencies with the book to permit the show's title to carry the book's. I will watch but with a far different perspective.

yeah, like the Army (or other significant gov body) even bothering to spray the dome with a water hose after trying SDI grade lasers, I presume projectiles, radar, sonar, fast & ultra-slow moving objects. show what would really be happening. there wouldn't be a few people holding a water hose rolleyes.gif there'd be thousands of military, scientists, engineers on the other side trying to figure out what it was with truck loads of scientific instruments & mobile labs.

one has to question the intelligence of whoever decided to show the viewers hosing the dome instead.

I would think someone would be trying to drill a test hole & figure out if they find a way to tunnel under it rolleyes.gif
of course, if they did show that, it would mean there'd be no point to the story in the 1st place tongue.gif

you're a more patient man than I if you can sit thru a whole season of this wink.gif

as far as people being put into claustophobic, life-threatening or limited resource situation, and written by S King himself, try The Mist...a far superior story. and for an example of a good network TV show with the same theme...I nominate Jericho.

this show doesn't hold a candle to either of them.

and again Spielberg puts his name on another half-baked show (Seaquest, Terra Nova, Under the Dome....3 for 3). Falling Skies is tolerable, not great by any stretch but tolerable. "Taken" also not great but tolerable, had some interesting "bad" guys, aka X-Files.

I think Spielberg's brand is a curse for good quality scifi on TV.
Edited by ss9001 - 7/4/13 at 6:55am
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