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Originally Posted by JohnS-MI

The uniqueness theorem says they all get you to the same answer, so maybe there is an element of personal choice. I personally found the (x-h)^2 + (y-k)^2 = r^2 much better.
Although unknown, the r^2 term is common to all three, so you can immediately eliminate it, the squares of h and k drop out and you have two equations in h and k, much easier than 3. Then plugin to any one of the three equations with h and k, get r. At least, that would be my preference.

Yes, I suppose it all depends upon where you want to feel the pain. I suspect that the author's of the text I pulled that from may have been "showing off a bit."

Like I said, the result of the alternate form solution doesn't get you to h, k and r ... you have to "complete the squares" for the x and y terms and the factor them back ... Which appears to be as much of a pain as anything else ... I tried it a while ago ... I'm still recovering.
Edited by HDTVChallenged - 7/12/13 at 10:45am

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However, as an engineer and also as a sailor interested in navigation, I solve a lot of triangles.

There you go ... For me, this whole exercise has been probably the first time, in at least ten years, that I've done more math than what's necessary to balance a checkbook. The brain atrophies when not exercised. It's probably a miracle that I remember as much as I do.
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Originally Posted by archiguy

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Originally Posted by tighr

I give up. I just read the wikipedia synopsis for Charlie Jade, and was unable to discover the cliffhanger... anyone care to post a spoiler tag for it? I probably won't watch the series.

I never miss a chance to plug 'Charlie Jade', one of the best adult sci-fi series in recent years! Several folks on this Forum who beat the odds and managed to see it during it's brief run on the [now] Syfy Network would agree.

You can still find the DVD set here, and I believe it might be available on some of the streaming services. You won't be disappointed. The very last scene of the last episode to which HDTVChallenged refers was intended to set up a second season which never came because they couldn't find a U.S. production/distribution partner (it was a joint Canadian/South African show). That scene's a real mind-bender, but irrelevant to the series as a whole. If you skip it, you've basically missed nothing.
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This is where I'll have to respectfully disagree, to me that last scene pretty much nukes *everything* that came before ... I still want to throw things at my TV, just thinking about it.

THIS I didn't expect...
Edited by Church AV Guy - 7/12/13 at 10:59am
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Originally Posted by JohnS-MI

Sorry, but I told you a point on the line (the midpoint) and the slope. Just write the perpendicular bisector equation by inspection.
Well, that I can do.

Give a point and a slope, I can do all kinds of interesting things (y = mx + b, solve for b, and inverse the slope for the perpendicular). It's when they don't even bother to give you certain information because "it's trivial" to divine them... UGH!
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Originally Posted by archiguy

Joblo could be correct if the Dome did in fact "grow into place" as opposed to being slammed down into the ground like a glass into soft soil, for example.

Ummm... to clarify: it is a fact that you were making an assumption.

Beyond that I said nothing. I have not taken a position as to whether the dome is cylindrical or spherical underground, or how far down it extends, etc.

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Originally Posted by archiguy

But they had outlined a second season if they could have lined up a U.S. partner (not Syfy of course; CJ was too sci-fi for them). Believe it or not, there was somewhere to go after that.

Thanks, interesting. I had not seen that. Not a good idea for someone to read if they haven't seen the series and want to, though. Talk about spoilers!
I missed the last 20 minutes of this last episode. I was hoping to catch it on a repeat Sunday night but it seems the CBS station here isn't going to show it. Next two episodes to air will be on the next two Mondays.
I'm amazed anyone cares enough about the actual physical properties of the dome to maintain the pages of conversation. After three episodes I've already relegated this to background fodder. I can see it's going to be another mediocre TV adaptation. Bland directing, stiff acting, weak dialog and cinematography that's as stylish and atmospheric as a beige couch on the set of According to Jim.

Every episode so far I've been anticipating some kind of closing cliffhanger or "dun dun dunnnnn" moment, but Desperate Housewives had more compelling reasons to get you to tune in next week.

My favorite part of this episode, which sums up exactly how bland and lazy this show is, was when Julia looked out of the window and said "Now, where is Junior off to in such a hurry?" only to cut to a shot of Junior casually walking down the street with no urgency at all. Come on, at least make him run or look somewhat harried. It's the least you could do.

Alan Sepinwall gave up after this episode. I haven't caught up with Graceland yet, but I think that might be a better use of my TV.
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Originally Posted by VisionOn

I'm amazed anyone cares enough about the actual physical properties of the dome to maintain the pages of conversation.

Is it wrong that I find playing "what if" with the mathematics more entertaining than the actual plot? ... Perhaps not a good sign ... for the show.
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Originally Posted by VisionOn

I'm amazed anyone cares enough about the actual physical properties of the dome to maintain the pages of conversation. After three episodes I've already relegated this to background fodder. I can see it's going to be another mediocre TV adaptation. Bland directing, stiff acting, weak dialog and cinematography that's as stylish and atmospheric as a beige couch on the set of According to Jim.

Every episode so far I've been anticipating some kind of closing cliffhanger or "dun dun dunnnnn" moment, but Desperate Housewives had more compelling reasons to get you to tune in next week.

My favorite part of this episode, which sums up exactly how bland and lazy this show is, was when Julia looked out of the window and said "Now, where is Junior off to in such a hurry?" only to cut to a shot of Junior casually walking down the street with no urgency at all. Come on, at least make him run or look somewhat harried. It's the least you could do.

Alan Sepinwall gave up after this episode. I haven't caught up with Graceland yet, but I think that might be a better use of my TV.

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Originally Posted by archiguy

My prediction turned out to be true, too. It was more fun to watch than this show. At least Sharknado didn't take itself seriously while it was being bad.
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Originally Posted by VisionOn

Alan Sepinwall gave up after this episode. I haven't caught up with Graceland yet, but I think that might be a better use of my TV.

"Review: 'Under the Dome' - 'Manhunt': Under and out"
http://www.hitfix.com/whats-alan-watching/review-under-the-dome-manhunt-under-and-out

His review totally summed it up for me & why I hit delete at the 1/3 point. poorly written & poorly acted.

I don't bale on scifi oriented shows if they're half way decent. I even managed to get thru The Event & V (Morena Baccarin ) And flawed as it was & as critical of its missteps as I was, I watched all of Caprica & if ever came out on BD in the US, I'd buy it. And I'm one of the ones who actually liked SG-U! It takes a lot for me to ditch a SF show.

All of the scientific-math discussion you guys are having has been interesting, but the show itself? nah!
You guys will certainly figure out what the dome is before the show does
Edited by ss9001 - 7/13/13 at 5:12am
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Originally Posted by Aleron Ives

My prediction turned out to be true, too. It was more fun to watch than this show. At least Sharknado didn't take itself seriously while it was being bad.

I'm sorry I missed it. With all the buzz, even on national news sites, I'm sure they'll rerun it! I did try to watch one of the megashark-giant octopus movies once

edit - just found the post saying it'll run on July 18. I'll watch it just to see what all the fuss was
Edited by ss9001 - 7/13/13 at 4:45am
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Originally Posted by VisionOn

I'm amazed anyone cares enough about the actual physical properties of the dome to maintain the pages of conversation. After three episodes I've already relegated this to background fodder. I can see it's going to be another mediocre TV adaptation. Bland directing, stiff acting, weak dialog and cinematography that's as stylish and atmospheric as a beige couch on the set of According to Jim.

Couldn't agree more. If the next episode isn't a lot better than the last one, I'm out.
Same here. If they don't start offering some hints as to who or what is behind the dome, I'll probably stop watching. It's just too random of a thing for me to buy into, and I just don't care enough about any of the characters to watch indefinitely a small town struggle to survive from being cut off from the rest of the world.

I also find it odd that they don't show Big Jim (the town's self-appointed leader) communicating via written messages at the edge of the dome with government officials about what's going on and what they are trying to do to help them. Everyone both inside and outside is completely ignoring one another, and in real life that would never happen even if the government didn't know anything or want to say anything (i.e., tell the truth). There would still be close, regular communication, and they would also likely be letting people who have loved ones inside communicate that way as well. And if communications are being completely cut off by the powers that be outside the dome, the show should explain why, or at least have people inside complaining about it.
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Originally Posted by Zookster

...a small town struggle to survive from being cut off from the rest of the world....Everyone both inside and outside is completely ignoring one another, and in real life that would never happen

that's one of the huge problems with this show...

the town isn't acting like it's struggling. all they seem to do is lackadazically go about doing things, no sense of urgency, acting like everything's almost normal...in a real life disaster situation, you'd have the local govt (Big Jim & cops) taking inventory of available essentials in stores & homes: food, water supply (assuming any creek & wells are cut by the dome), generators & diesel fuel, batteries, lights, and toilet paper! all Big Jim seems to care about is the propane & his drug factory

when the series Jericho ran, post nuclear attacks and collapse of govt, the show did portray some of these things so you could "believe" in their world.

the fact that what's being shown is nothing more than a cheezy soap opera shows how badly written it is. The Stand had characters who really did react to the situations they found themselves in, according to whether they were good or evil

this is just not a believable script, even as a sci-fi oriented mystery.
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Originally Posted by ss9001

when the series Jericho ran, post nuclear attacks and collapse of govt, the show did portray some of these things so you could "believe" in their world.

No it didn't. If anything it was worse. During the first season their response to a nuclear war was to sit in the bar, carve pumpkins and have a Halloween festival and spark up some folksy romance on the farm. Considering the entire country might be in flames most of the characters in that show were even more unfazed. At least the town on Dome knows the rest of the world is still there.
I wonder if people will still be driving their cars everywhere in season 2. Maybe the properties of the dome also increase fuel economy.
The good news is that NSA's PRISM program can't listen in on them.

Or maybe they are using their new program ECHO to detect Dome vibrations.
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Originally Posted by joblo

I have not taken a position as to whether the dome is cylindrical or spherical underground, or how far down it extends, etc.

This weekend I looked again at the scenes just before the dome hit the ground. In addition to wind, the ground seems to be shaking as in an earthquake. All the activity stops when the dome hits the ground. So now I think the best explanation is a sphere forming in place from the vertical poles out, so that as the dome is forming overhead a bowl is forming underground. The sphere closes when the dome meets the bowl, approximately at ground level.

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Originally Posted by VisionOn

I'm amazed anyone cares enough about the actual physical properties of the dome to maintain the pages of conversation. After three episodes I've already relegated this to background fodder. I can see it's going to be another mediocre TV adaptation. Bland directing, stiff acting, weak dialog and cinematography that's as stylish and atmospheric as a beige couch on the set of According to Jim.

That’s why the conversation is all about the dome. Nothing else is in the show is worth the time of day.

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Originally Posted by ss9001

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Originally Posted by Zookster

...a small town struggle to survive from being cut off from the rest of the world....Everyone both inside and outside is completely ignoring one another, and in real life that would never happen

that's one of the huge problems with this show...

the town isn't acting like it's struggling. all they seem to do is lackadazically go about doing things, no sense of urgency, acting like everything's almost normal...

This is the problem with trying to turn this story into a multi-year series. The book is a downward progression, but a downward progression leads inexorably toward an end. You can put a different ending on it easily enough, but if you want have no ending, then you really have to change the whole trajectory of the show, and the result is BORING!

We live our lives under glass,
But we persevere with dignity and class.
Hallowed be the Dome,
For the Dome in our home,
Forever and ever. Amen.

The TiVo listing says people “panic” in tonight’s episode. We’ll see…
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Originally Posted by VisionOn

I'm amazed anyone cares enough about the actual physical properties of the dome to maintain the pages of conversation. After three episodes I've already relegated this to background fodder. I can see it's going to be another mediocre TV adaptation. Bland directing, stiff acting, weak dialog and cinematography that's as stylish and atmospheric as a beige couch on the set of According to Jim.

That’s why the conversation is all about the dome. Nothing else is in the show is worth the time of day.

LOL...The dome is upstaging everyone. Why, it's the breakout character of the series! E! is reporting Kim Kardashin was spotted at an exclusive nightclub with it! CBS is rocked by the Dome's manager hitting it up for a substantial pay raise for season 2! Fox News has uncovered the Dome's secret past-a wife and 3 little spheres who don't have healthcare! The Dome goes on Oprah-tearfully denies the spheres are his! JJ Abrams wants the dome in his new Star Wars film! The lens flares on the Dome will be magnificent he exclaimed...

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Originally Posted by Aleron Ives

I wonder if people will still be driving their cars everywhere in season 2. Maybe the properties of the dome also increase fuel economy.

Based on the ratings CBS has pulled in, I suppose it's possible we may have a second season .. maybe it's already been announced and I missed it ..

Not a spoiler, but the book spans a timeframe of something around one week .. so even this 13 episode thing is stretching it .. to go a 2nd season, we're in for something even more substantially rewritten ..
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Originally Posted by Westly-C

LOL...The dome is upstaging everyone. Why, it's the breakout character of the series! E! is reporting Kim Kardashin was spotted at an exclusive nightclub with it! CBS is rocked by the Dome's manager hitting it up for a substantial pay raise for season 2! Fox News has uncovered the Dome's secret past-a wife and 3 little spheres who don't have healthcare! JJ Abrams wants the dome in his new Star Wars film! The lens flares on the Dome will be magnificent he exclaimed...

I heard one of the Kardashians was having the Domes child ..
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Originally Posted by mgkdragn

I heard one of the Kardashians was having the Domes child ..

Understandable mistake, considering the "domes" they carry around....
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Originally Posted by joblo

The TiVo listing says people “panic” in tonight’s episode. We’ll see…
I wonder what that means? They ran out of bacon at the diner? The pharmacy is out of Xanax?
I think the HOTP posting about tonight's episode did in fact say that one of the causes was dwindling medical supplies.
With the whole pink stars thing people keep mentioning during their seizures, I've decided I know who is the mastermind behind the dome.

It's this guy:

Some self contained bomb shelter. Water pipe connects to the kitchen sink in the house? Can always assume that the shelter was retrofitted later when a nuclear attack wasn't such a threat.

Some earlier postings thought the soldiers outside can't see in. We got a brief shot from an outside perspective this time. We got them a few times before but you had to watch closely for them.

Next week preview looks interesting. Visitors day at the dome edge.
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Originally Posted by joblo

This weekend I looked again at the scenes just before the dome hit the ground. In addition to wind, the ground seems to be shaking as in an earthquake. All the activity stops when the dome hits the ground. So now I think the best explanation is a sphere forming in place from the vertical poles out, so that as the dome is forming overhead a bowl is forming underground. The sphere closes when the dome meets the bowl, approximately at ground level.
That’s why the conversation is all about the dome. Nothing else is in the show is worth the time of day.
This is the problem with trying to turn this story into a multi-year series. The book is a downward progression, but a downward progression leads inexorably toward an end. You can put a different ending on it easily enough, but if you want have no ending, then you really have to change the whole trajectory of the show, and the result is BORING!

We live our lives under glass,
But we persevere with dignity and class.
Hallowed be the Dome,
For the Dome in our home,
Forever and ever. Amen.

The TiVo listing says people “panic” in tonight’s episode. We’ll see…

You are putting way to much thought into the dome and how it appeared. The writers do not care, this show is a drama about how people cope with being cut off and human nature, not if the dome formed from vertical poles out.
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Originally Posted by WilliamR

You are putting way to much thought into the dome and how it appeared. The writers do not care, this show is a drama about how people cope with being cut off and human nature, not if the dome formed from vertical poles out.

If we can accept that people fly in interstellar space ships, there are vampires and zombies, then accepting the premise of this show no matter how flawed shouldn't be a huge leap. Whether it has legs over time will rest with character development as with any show, scifi, drama or comedy. No interesting characters or plot arcs then the show will disappear.
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