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Buy a Spec or a new Colorimeter?

post #1 of 12
Thread Starter 
Hi There,

I currently have a colormunki display (the old rebranded i1display2 colorimeter), and since I had it for a while (3+ years), it is likely to have drifted already.

I'm considering what would be best for a non-professional calibrator like me, in terms of upgrade. Scenarios:



1 - Keep the Colorimeter, buy a Spec (CM Photo), and use them together (from what I read you can re-calibrate the colorimeter based on the Spec?).


2 - Buy a new Colorimeter, in this case the new Colormunki Display. From what I read, it's a big upgrade from the old design based on e1d2, but would worry about drift.



What I would be calibrating:

- An LED Projector (LG PA70G)
- An old LCD TV with CFLs (Samsung LN40A500)
- My wide gamut LCD

The projector and TV are used to watch movies (and I'm hoping to create a 3DLut to use with Madvr), and the Monitor is used to edit photos. I don't print at home and have the profile for the place I use, so that's not a big deal.


Option 1 is more expensive, but would it give me a better result than option 2? I also worry about option 2 because I'm not sure if the new Colorimeter is capable of calibrating all my devices.

Thanks for your help! smile.gif
post #2 of 12
option #1.. you could also buy a used i1Pro Rev D. Spectro ($250-$450) instead of a CM Photo Spectro..

Why a Spectro, see why here:

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1373556/i1-pro-or-d3-if-you-could-only-have-one-meter

http://www.tlvexp.ca/2012/04/do-calibration-tables-really-work-for-tri-stim-devices/

And Read these Threads:
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1449310/eye-one-pro-or-display-3-pro

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1464411/what-would-you-rather-have-for-display-calibration


Down the road, you could add (and replace your i1D2) with a i1D3 series if you wanted.. still profiling to your spectro.

I would not recommend replacing with just another colorimeter
post #3 of 12
I went with option one, and got a new Colormunki Photo spectro. I also have a not so old id2 (from maybe 1-2 years ago) but have just done my calibrations with the spectro. My display doesn't really have a 10-pt gs calibration option, I'm stuck with just 2-pt so I usually just do the 30% gray which the spectro should be accurate up to that low depending on your light output and get the superior color gamut accuracy that spectro's are known for when doing my CMS.

FYI, according to the spectro, my id2 was measuring around 500-1000 different in color temperature and de's were an avg of 9.56 compared to the readings of the spectro. It was reading red too low and blue too high.
post #4 of 12
Thread Starter 
great, thanks for the feedback. I got some reading to do now! :-)
post #5 of 12
Thread Starter 
What would make more sense, buy a new in box CM Photo for around $250, or a used i1pro from Fleabay for $300? I know the i1pro is better, but a bit worried about getting a lemon smile.gif
post #6 of 12
If you don't like to buy used, go with the CM Spectro..

Also, $250 is very low for a brand new CM Spectro.
post #7 of 12
Yeah, I paid $400 for my colormunki photo a few weeks back brand new in box. I lost out on a bunch of bids for an i1pro on fleabay... I tried like 5 times I'd always get outbid. Highest I went was like $315 one time. These were EFI ES-1000's btw.

I finally said F it and went with a CM Photo, and hopefully mine is reading accurate and and whatnot.

I had a little screw up and the USB connector disconnected while it was hanging on my screen and it fell onto a carpet floor from around 3ft... Hopefully it didn't mess it up as it had a bit of protection from the case and it didn't fall on concrete. But alas, no idea to know how, aside from checking my old calibrations and see if it's still reading accurate.
post #8 of 12
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Originally Posted by fairchild99 View Post

I lost out on a bunch of bids for an i1pro on fleabay... I tried like 5 times I'd always get outbid. Highest I went was like $315 one time. These were EFI ES-1000's btw.

I finally said F it and went with a CM Photo, and hopefully mine is reading accurate and and whatnot.

over the last year, the people listening to the recommendations have multiplied and the voice gets even louder.. demand can increase price wink.gif

'spread 'em.... the spectro recommendations!'


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Edited by turbe - 5/10/13 at 9:07pm
post #9 of 12
+1 with Turbe, the rev D is the great recommandation
post #10 of 12
Thread Starter 
I found a rev D for a good price, but only comes with the base, so missing the contact mount. Is that a big deal? Can I improvise a mount, or buy it from x-rite? Will it affect the results?
post #11 of 12
Thread Starter 
Update: Turns out the Rev D that I negotiated down to $240 was "snagged" on fleabay before my eyes. frown.gif

Not wanting to follow the same path of frustation as fairchild99, I decided to try to pick up the "new in box" colormunki photo. The guy first said he got as a gift, and had receipt, later on changed the story said it "came" with his camera and he didn't need it.... I decided to take the risk and buy it, but then the atm was out of service (warning sign lol). I still got money out after going to another atm, at this point the guy is getting impatient and thinking I'm giving him the run around (another warning sign).

After I got home, went straight to test it, and it wouldn't calibrate. I'm sweating at this point, got scammed lol. Turns out it was my usb 3.0 port acting up, once I plugged it in on the usb 2.0, it worked!

Then I removed x-rite software, installed dispcalgui + argyll, and decided to compare it against my old colorimeter (a rebadged i1display2), on a ccfl ips display (that I know the colorimeter was good at measuring in the past). Got a max dE error of around 5, and average around 2 (for the 100 samples dispcalgui uses). Not sure if there's any other test I can try to see if it's good, but it looks ok to me.

Also pretty surprised, I was expecting to get a huge difference on my colorimeter (I never stored it properly, and it's been a long time since I bought it).


Now going to spend countless hours playing with the new toy, the wife is already not very happy biggrin.gif
post #12 of 12
How much less would you guys pay for a Rev. A vs. a D?

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