We all have been taking this display thing way too seriously in my opinion. So let's have some fun with this. The people who guess right get to call themselves "Master Predictive Forecaster" or something like that. Suggestions welcome.
I predict that the ZT60 wins over all best display.
F8500 comes in 2nd.
VT60 3rd.
And that there will be confusing caveats galore offered by the judges.
i'm going to predict that the TESTERS with CALIBRATED tv's will pick
#1 ZT60
#2 VT60
#3 F8500
i say calibrated because i believe the only advantages of the F8500 get eliminated when the sets are calibrated to a fixed light output, and viewed in reference dark rooms.
i'm thinking the 'buzz' from casual viewers and enthusiasts viewing the tv's uncalibrated or in brighter rooms will be between the ZT60 and F8500. i don't know which way that will go, but i assume that an 'even' match would go to the panny due to viewer bias and ppl assuming you 'get what you pay for'.
I don't know who will win or what Ken ross will say but I'll say this: we will be better served if the f8500 wins! Why?
More controversy. Controversy sells TVs.
If Panasonic wins they will cease plasma production quicker saying that they produced the ultimate and there was nothing left to prove.
If Samsung wins it may goad Panasonic into maybe some infintessimal improvements in the 2014 models.
That won't happen if Panasonic wins--and I don't mean just this shoot out--I mean in most buyer's minds who fancy themselves as videophiles..
I say if Samsung wins it may be one more year of plasma production out of BOTH Samsung and Panasonic.
Maybe it means that Panasonic COULD be better in 2014 before bowing out and it might mean that Samsung will definitely still be producing the successor to the f8500 in 2015.
There is hope for 2014.
2015 there might still be a great plasma or...well I'm sure you've heard the other scenario somewhere!
Just think of it folks--Brightness lovers versus black lovers and Kuro worshipers versus Kuro haters and maybe even the Sharp Elite worshipers chime in.
This might be better than wrestling!!!
There might even be someone out there who would be brave enough to say that the wrestling was rigged!
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Originally Posted by Artwood /t/1472028/which-display-wins-the-s...-fun-make-your-predictions-here#post_23296640
I don't know who will win or what Ken ross will say but I'll say this: we will be better served if the f8500 wins! Why?
More controversy. Controversy sells TVs.
If Panasonic wins they will cease plasma production quicker saying that they produced the ultimate and there was nothing left to prove.
If Samsung wins it may goad Panasonic into maybe some infintessimal improvements in the 2014 models.
That won't happen if Panasonic wins--and I don't mean just this shoot out--I mean in most buyer's minds who fancy themselves as videophiles..
I say if Samsung wins it may be one more year of plasma production out of BOTH Samsung and Panasonic.
Maybe it means that Panasonic COULD be better in 2014 before bowing out and it might mean that Samsung will definitely still be producing the successor to the f8500 in 2015.
There is hope for 2014.
2015 there might still be a great plasma or...well I'm sure you've heard the other scenario somewhere!
Just think of it folks--Brightness lovers versus black lovers and Kuro worshipers versus Kuro haters and maybe even the Sharp Elite worshipers chime in.
This might be better than wrestling!!!
There might even be someone out there who would be brave enough to say that the wrestling was rigged!
Without even viewing the sets I'll say that I think it should be 1)ZT60
2)f8500
3)VT60
I'm saying what it will be is 1)f8500
2)ZT60
3)VT60
The f8500 will win the shoot out because it is rigged because MORE TVS will be sold if the Samsung wins because there will be more controversy and controversy sells TVs.
There will also be great comments about past Kuros to cause even more controversy!
When it comes to SALES though Samsung will be the clear winner--the buying public always goes for the brightest display!
When it comes to which is best--it'll be the Panasonic ZT60--the people that will know this will be the same people that think that Coke is better than Pepsi and that Betamax was better than VHS.
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Originally Posted by Artwood /t/1472028/which-display-wins-the-s...-fun-make-your-predictions-here#post_23296712
Without even viewing the sets I'll say that I think it should be 1)ZT60
2)f8500
3)VT60
I'm saying what it will be is 1)f8500
2)ZT60
3)The f8500 will win the shoot out because it is rigged because MORE TVS will be sold if the Samsung wins because there will be more controversy and controversy sells TVs.lls TVs.
There will also be great comments about past Kuros to cause even more controversy!
When it comes to SALES though Samsung will be the clear winner--the buying public always goes for the brightest display!
When it comes to which is best--it'll be the Panasonic ZT60--the people that will know this will be the same people that think that Coke is better than Pepsi and that Betamax was better than VHS.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Artwood /t/1472028/which-display-wins-the-s...-fun-make-your-predictions-here#post_23296712
Without even viewing the sets I'll say that I think it should be 1)ZT60
2)f8500
3)VT60
I'm saying what it will be is 1)f8500
2)ZT60
3)VT60
The f8500 will win the shoot out because it is rigged because MORE TVS will be sold if the Samsung wins because there will be more controversy and controversy sells TVs.
There will also be great comments about past Kuros to cause even more controversy!
When it comes to SALES though Samsung will be the clear winner--the buying public always goes for the brightest display!
When it comes to which is best--it'll be the Panasonic ZT60--the people that will know this will be the same people that think that Coke is better than Pepsi and that Betamax was better than VHS.
Those measurement are from AVForum. Their Black Level measurement were also low from them. I would put more stock in HDTVTest (David MacKenzie). He measured 68 cd/m2.
Looking forward to tomorrow and Sat. Should be a good one.
I say
ZT60
F8500
VT60
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