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post #1 of 31
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I am looking for recommendations bookshelf speakers that are very dynamic. I previously had the Pioneer BS22's then returned them and got the FS52's then returned them thinking they would be more dynamic (they were not). For music they sounded detailed but completely and utterly lifeless (almost monotone) and worse for HT. I spent hours tweaking and thinking something was wrong with my receiver and even liked the TV speakers more.

Then I got some Energy RC-70's and instantly loved them. After having them for a while though I feel that they lack sizzle and few things actually jump out at me. The high frequencies are not as pronounced as I like. No matter loud I crank them I feel like I'm stuck back stage and while MUCH better than the Pioneers I still feel they lack dynamics. If this helps with recommendations I found myself boosting the treble 4-8db with the Energy speakers.

I also have the slightly brighter Energy Veritas center and like the sound a little more. It seemed a little more punchy and detailed. I also found that I had to crank them to uncomfortable volumes in a small room to get the best detail.

I am selling both now though so I can use the cash to get cheaper bookshelf speakers and a good sub.

In summary:
  • The highs were not as crisp or loud as I would have liked
  • I felt that like both speakers were too well tamed. I felt like I just wanted them to cut loose like at the theater but they never did. No matter what volume. Nothing ever jumped out at me.
  • I ended up boosting treble 4-8db on the RC's
  • Pioneers were completely lifeless to me.
  • I felt like I was in the back row
  • Volume helped with the highs frequencies. It didn't bring me a more full and dynamic sound as much as I wanted though.

I listen to everything. Rock, Pop, R&B, Techno, Acoustic guitar songs, pretty much everything except Rap. Not much classical but I love instruments like the piano, violin, and acoustic guitar. So I'm not looking for a speaker that only shines with classical. Like in the title of the thread I am looking for a good gaming/HT speaker as well.

I listened to the Klipsch Synergy F-30's and the KB-15 recently and liked the sound much more. It will take quite some time to forget the look on my little brothers face as he said "Get the Klipsch!". Still from what I hear they are not as good of a value as the Klipsch ref's and I feel the references are overpriced. The prices of the center channel make me cringe as well. So I feel there are better alternatives.

Based on what I described does anyone think the HSU HB-1 MK2 horn bookshelf, Cambridge S30, or Paradigm Atoms will give me what I'm looking for? I'm also open to other suggestions.
post #2 of 31
I think the Hsu HB-1 MK 2 speakers with a Hsu sub might be a good bet for your listening preferences..................

This review gives you a summary of the Hsu as well as others to consider...............


http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/article/review-clash-minispeakers
post #3 of 31
Sounds like you and a horn tweeter are a match made in heaven! I agree with your assessment of the pioneers, btw, they just didn't do it for me!
I have found the cheaper klipsch speakers sound shrill...but just make sure you get a good listen. A Lot of people consider Polk monitor and lsi lines to be bright, so those might be worth a listen.
post #4 of 31
Thread Starter 
I found this review of the HB-1 MK2.

http://hometheaterreview.com/hsu-research-hb-1-mk2-bookshelf-loudspeaker-reviewed/?page=1

"Upon initial listening, I came away with the impression that the HB-1 MK2 was a bit muffled and rolled-off up top. After about ten minutes of listening, I discovered my initial thoughts were wrong, and in reality many speakers -at least the ones I had on hand for comparison - were merely more forward and, in some cases, more aggressive."

Would this be what I am trying to avoid. After all it is a horn speaker so I find it a bit odd.

I found someone with the exact problems as me. His comparisons of the HB-1 and C30 are posts #63 and #69.
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1453448/dynamics-at-the-front-fs52-s30-or-hb-1-mk2/60
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Originally Posted by Resonate View Post

UPDATE: Three days ago I ordered the Cambridge S30s to audtion and I picked up a pair of Sanus EF-28B stands. Two days ago the Hsu's arrived. Yesterday I returned the Pioneers to Best Buy.

The Hsu HB-1 MK2 speakers were about the size I was expecting and heavier than they look. The magnetic grilles are cool. Sitting atop the 5"x5" plates of the stands, they seem stable enough. Even a sharp kick to anywhere near the bottom of the stand just makes the whole thing slide a little on the wood floor. I toed them in so that they'd 'cross' in front of the main listening position.

Three main differences between the FS52s and the HB-1s jumped out at me. One reviewer mentioned how the source of singing seemed to come from a few feet behind the FS52s; with the HB-1s, it's more 'forward' (I think this is the term) - I'd say the singing comes from the plane of the speakers. This seems related to with the midrange levels being better balanced with the treble and bass - to my ear anyway - I'd say the sound is 'fuller'. Secondly, the treble stays smooth - even at -10dB. I haven't tested above this yet but suffice to say these can get nice and loud in my room. Third the dynamics are 'effortless' as Hsu marketing puts it. Songs that I'm used to sounding dangerous and volcanic when played loudly, DO biggrin.gif (Prodigy's 'Spitfire' is a good example).

The S30s have got a tough act to follow.

What concerns me is this:
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Originally Posted by Resonate View Post

"I'd say the sound is 'fuller'. Secondly, the treble stays smooth - even at -10dB. I haven't tested above this yet but suffice to say these can get nice and loud in my room. Third the dynamics are 'effortless' as Hsu marketing puts it. Songs that I'm used to sounding dangerous and volcanic when played loudly, DO biggrin.gif (Prodigy's 'Spitfire' is a good example).
I like that he mentions just how good the dynamics are. What troubles me is that he says that the treble stays smooth even at -10db. Of course these are much different speakers than my RC's that I had at 4-8db higher than normal. So any thoughts on that would be appreciated.

When he did get the S30's he said they sounded better.
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Originally Posted by Resonate View Post

S30 FTMFW!!! Here's a quick pre-sleep rundown:
After unleashing the true power of the HB-1 Mk2s the other day I thought my mind was made up. The Cambridge Audio speakers were just gonna be one last box to check off on the due diligence list. When the S30s arrived they looked too small and felt too light to compete with the stentorian Hsus. I thought maybe ziegl01 and Ster3ohead just had idiosyncratic tastes in music that these things happened to pander to. Not wanting to disrupt the existing speaker positioning, I begrudgingly sat the S30s atop the HB-1s and ran through the same 6 point Audyssey routine that I'd recently used to great effect. I quickly realized that everything ziegl01, Ster3ohead and that amazon reviewer said about the S30s was completely true. These speakers are somehow magic. Within a few minutes the S30s were placed at proper level on the stands and Audyssey was run again. Music listening continued for a couple hours until my friend arrived to see what I was on about. He was stunned by the sound quality, couldn't believe how small the speakers were or how big the sub was, and listened for almost an hour. Even my girlfriend popped in and thought the S30s sounded great.

Basically, for me, the difference is this: HB-1 MK2s are awesome when they're loud.e.g. -25dB+. They are fantastic for rocking out and soaking up the infrasonics. It doesn't seem possible that they can do what they're doing with so much dynamic strength and ease. I could crank them up and count on being BLOWN AWAY (my gf was not a fan of this btw). With the S30s though, they're awesome at any volume (I didn't go past -20db tonight). Turning it up increases detail, but the sound is always so rich, full and 'cohesive' that it's somehow deeply satisfying. And at a given volume, I would say the dynamics are slightly stronger: the HB-1s deliver the impact, but the S30s deliver the impact with more of its organic texture. Hopefully tomorrow I'll get to try them out with some movies.
Still with only the comparison of one person I am hoping for someone else to comment. Can a speaker without a horn sound more dynamic? Especially when the professional reviews of the HSU are really good?
post #5 of 31
Best bookshelf speaker I have heard yet would be the JTR single 8. No joke. $899 a piece, but they sound fantastic with a sub of course.

The HSU and the Cambridge S30's would be my second picks.
post #6 of 31
I'm in the same boat, have a new bare bones family room, just picked up a plasma tv, now need sound. It will be used for 70% HT and 30% for music, just like the OP starter.

My concern is, since it would appear that most sound would come from a center channel while watching a movie, shouldn't the center channel be matched in quality to the front speakers? And if that's the case, this search becomes a whole new ball game!
post #7 of 31
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Originally Posted by ElectroMike View Post

I'm in the same boat, have a new bare bones family room, just picked up a plasma tv, now need sound. It will be used for 70% HT and 30% for music, just like the OP starter.

My concern is, since it would appear that most sound would come from a center channel while watching a movie, shouldn't the center channel be matched in quality to the front speakers? And if that's the case, this search becomes a whole new ball game!

You are a different situation. The OP is looking for a specific type of speaker sound. Might be easier to start your own thread, and include other information such as your budget and any restrictions on size of speakers.
post #8 of 31
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Originally Posted by Porthos01 View Post

I listened to the Klipsch Synergy F-30's and the KB-15 recently and liked the sound much more. It will take quite some time to forget the look on my little brothers face as he said "Get the Klipsch!". Still from what I hear they are not as good of a value as the Klipsch ref's and I feel the references are overpriced. The prices of the center channel make me cringe as well. So I feel there are better alternatives.

Have you heard the Klipsch Reference? Based on what you are describing, it sounds like they might be be the best fit for you. If they are, how are they overpriced if nothing else in that price range can do it for you? If you are replacing the RC-70s, I don't understand why you wouldn't be looking at the Klipsch Reference line.
post #9 of 31
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Originally Posted by Porthos01 View Post

I am looking for recommendations bookshelf speakers that are very dynamic. I previously had the Pioneer BS22's then returned them and got the FS52's then returned them thinking they would be more dynamic (they were not). For music they sounded detailed but completely and utterly lifeless (almost monotone) and worse for HT. I spent hours tweaking and thinking something was wrong with my receiver and even liked the TV speakers more.

Then I got some Energy RC-70's and instantly loved them. After having them for a while though I feel that they lack sizzle and few things actually jump out at me. The high frequencies are not as pronounced as I like. No matter loud I crank them I feel like I'm stuck back stage and while MUCH better than the Pioneers I still feel they lack dynamics. If this helps with recommendations I found myself boosting the treble 4-8db with the Energy speakers.

I also have the slightly brighter Energy Veritas center and like the sound a little more. It seemed a little more punchy and detailed. I also found that I had to crank them to uncomfortable volumes in a small room to get the best detail.

I am selling both now though so I can use the cash to get cheaper bookshelf speakers and a good sub.

In summary:
  • The highs were not as crisp or loud as I would have liked
  • I felt that like both speakers were too well tamed. I felt like I just wanted them to cut loose like at the theater but they never did. No matter what volume. Nothing ever jumped out at me.
  • I ended up boosting treble 4-8db on the RC's
  • Pioneers were completely lifeless to me.
  • I felt like I was in the back row
  • Volume helped with the highs frequencies. It didn't bring me a more full and dynamic sound as much as I wanted though.

I listen to everything. Rock, Pop, R&B, Techno, Acoustic guitar songs, pretty much everything except Rap. Not much classical but I love instruments like the piano, violin, and acoustic guitar. So I'm not looking for a speaker that only shines with classical. Like in the title of the thread I am looking for a good gaming/HT speaker as well.

I listened to the Klipsch Synergy F-30's and the KB-15 recently and liked the sound much more. It will take quite some time to forget the look on my little brothers face as he said "Get the Klipsch!". Still from what I hear they are not as good of a value as the Klipsch ref's and I feel the references are overpriced. The prices of the center channel make me cringe as well. So I feel there are better alternatives.

Based on what I described does anyone think the HSU HB-1 MK2 horn bookshelf, Cambridge S30, or Paradigm Atoms will give me what I'm looking for? I'm also open to other suggestions.

I actually own the RC-70s, the AJ Pioneer set and I just picked up the Cambridge S30 pair. I agree with you on the RC-70s but not the pioneers. Im not sure if the reason for the pioneers sounding more forward and detailed is due to audyssey multi-xt on my 2113ci vs the rc-70s being hooked up to a pioneer sc-1222 and using MCACC. That said, the Cambridge S30's sound fantastic to me, clear, detailed, and full soundstage but then again I'm ony sitting 7ft away from them. Impressive for the money spent.
post #10 of 31
BIC DV62SI are very much like what you are looking for, in case the other candidates end up all being too expensive. Mine are running 10+ hours per day and do good with everything.

Some speakers seem too flat for their own good and low efficiency seems to make some others kinda lifeless.
post #11 of 31
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by benfica1 View Post

I actually own the RC-70s, the AJ Pioneer set and I just picked up the Cambridge S30 pair. I agree with you on the RC-70s but not the pioneers. Im not sure if the reason for the pioneers sounding more forward and detailed is due to audyssey multi-xt on my 2113ci vs the rc-70s being hooked up to a pioneer sc-1222 and using MCACC. That said, the Cambridge S30's sound fantastic to me, clear, detailed, and full soundstage but then again I'm ony sitting 7ft away from them. Impressive for the money spent.

I believe Pioneer's sounding good to you I believe that has to do with the fact that your receiver is a beast. Your receiver is capable of powering 4ohm speakers with ease and I saw a professional review stating that the Pioneer's sounded way too laid back with a budget receiver. Still that same review said they lacked dynamics and were not very lively speakers. So even if I were to get a better receiver I don't think those are for me.

You said that the S30's were clear, detailed, and had a full soundstage. Just how much more than the RC's? Also, how forward/bright are they in comparison?
Thanks
post #12 of 31
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Originally Posted by Porthos01 View Post

I believe Pioneer's sounding good to you I believe that has to do with the fact that your receiver is a beast. Your receiver is capable of powering 4ohm speakers with ease and I saw a professional review stating that the Pioneer's sounded way too laid back with a budget receiver. Still that same review said they lacked dynamics and were not very lively speakers. So even if I were to get a better receiver I don't think those are for me.

You said that the S30's were clear, detailed, and had a full soundstage. Just how much more than the RC's? Also, how forward/bright are they in comparison?
Thanks
To my ears the s30 is more forward and bright than the rc-70 but not so much so that they sound harsh or tiring as you listen to them for a long period. Don't get me wrong though, the rc70 still has a fuller soundstage as they should for their size and cost. Im only using the s30 for 2 channel audio, no HT. Best thing to do is try them and if you dont like them make sure you can return them. For me it was money well spent.
post #13 of 31
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Originally Posted by Porthos01 View Post

I believe Pioneer's sounding good to you I believe that has to do with the fact that your receiver is a beast. Your receiver is capable of powering 4ohm speakers with ease and I saw a professional review stating that the Pioneer's sounded way too laid back with a budget receiver. Still that same review said they lacked dynamics and were not very lively speakers. So even if I were to get a better receiver I don't think those are for me.

Audioholics measurements for the Pioneer: http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/speakers/floorstanding/pioneer-sp-pk52fs/pioneer-sp-pk52fs-measurements

This could explain why you don't like the RC-70: http://www.hometheater.com/content/energy-reference-connoisseur-rc-70-speaker-system-ht-labs-measures
post #14 of 31
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Originally Posted by Porthos01 View Post

I am looking for recommendations bookshelf speakers that are very dynamic. I previously had the Pioneer BS22's then returned them and got the FS52's then returned them thinking they would be more dynamic (they were not). For music they sounded detailed but completely and utterly lifeless (almost monotone) and worse for HT. I spent hours tweaking and thinking something was wrong with my receiver and even liked the TV speakers more.

Then I got some Energy RC-70's and instantly loved them. After having them for a while though I feel that they lack sizzle and few things actually jump out at me. The high frequencies are not as pronounced as I like. No matter loud I crank them I feel like I'm stuck back stage and while MUCH better than the Pioneers I still feel they lack dynamics. If this helps with recommendations I found myself boosting the treble 4-8db with the Energy speakers.

I also have the slightly brighter Energy Veritas center and like the sound a little more. It seemed a little more punchy and detailed. I also found that I had to crank them to uncomfortable volumes in a small room to get the best detail.

I am selling both now though so I can use the cash to get cheaper bookshelf speakers and a good sub.

In summary:
  • The highs were not as crisp or loud as I would have liked
  • I felt that like both speakers were too well tamed. I felt like I just wanted them to cut loose like at the theater but they never did. No matter what volume. Nothing ever jumped out at me.
  • I ended up boosting treble 4-8db on the RC's
  • Pioneers were completely lifeless to me.
  • I felt like I was in the back row
  • Volume helped with the highs frequencies. It didn't bring me a more full and dynamic sound as much as I wanted though.

I listen to everything. Rock, Pop, R&B, Techno, Acoustic guitar songs, pretty much everything except Rap. Not much classical but I love instruments like the piano, violin, and acoustic guitar. So I'm not looking for a speaker that only shines with classical. Like in the title of the thread I am looking for a good gaming/HT speaker as well.

I listened to the Klipsch Synergy F-30's and the KB-15 recently and liked the sound much more. It will take quite some time to forget the look on my little brothers face as he said "Get the Klipsch!". Still from what I hear they are not as good of a value as the Klipsch ref's and I feel the references are overpriced. The prices of the center channel make me cringe as well. So I feel there are better alternatives.

Based on what I described does anyone think the HSU HB-1 MK2 horn bookshelf, Cambridge S30, or Paradigm Atoms will give me what I'm looking for? I'm also open to other suggestions.

I would highly, highly recommend the JBL Synthesis LS40. It uses compression driver mechanics, will give an absolutely HUGE sound, is light and detailed but can thump for a bookshelf. I've used it in very very large rooms and had excellent results when paired with a sub(s). This sounds clear and precise on all types of music from rock, country, techno, metal and at almost any volume. It's a very well rounded speaker. Without a sub, even in large rooms the bass is present.

Easy to power with something like a Yamaha RX-A730 or higher. Honestly, this doesn't need more than what a $1000-$1200 receiver puts out at most.

The only real negative to this speaker is size. For a "bookshelf", it is substantial in size. Much larger than most.

MSRP: $699 each http://www.jblsynthesis.com/Products/Details/99

Review from Home Theater Magazine: http://www.hometheater.com/content/jbl-ls40-speaker-system
(Was on their recommended speaker systems list forever)

Side note: JBL Synthesis has these speakers paired with their Synthesis Electronics and calls it the "Synthesis LS" and it retails for $35,000. Same speakers, just adds their electronics. Honestly, a modern receiver is perfectly fine for this speaker system.
post #15 of 31
The S30 are great little speakers, but only your ears will be able to make the decision. While more expensive, I'd recommend auditioning both the S30 and EMP Tek E41, which I found to be similar, with the Emp having a leg up on output.
post #16 of 31
P.S. I owned Polk LSi 9, over your price range but fantastic speakers. Being a hater of bright tweeters I didn't find this to be a problem with them at all.
post #17 of 31
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by PlexMulti View Post

I would highly, highly recommend the JBL Synthesis LS40. It uses compression driver mechanics, will give an absolutely HUGE sound, is light and detailed but can thump for a bookshelf. I've used it in very very large rooms and had excellent results when paired with a sub(s). This sounds clear and precise on all types of music from rock, country, techno, metal and at almost any volume. It's a very well rounded speaker. Without a sub, even in large rooms the bass is present.

Easy to power with something like a Yamaha RX-A730 or higher. Honestly, this doesn't need more than what a $1000-$1200 receiver puts out at most.

The only real negative to this speaker is size. For a "bookshelf", it is substantial in size. Much larger than most.

MSRP: $699 each http://www.jblsynthesis.com/Products/Details/99

Review from Home Theater Magazine: http://www.hometheater.com/content/jbl-ls40-speaker-system
(Was on their recommended speaker systems list forever)

Side note: JBL Synthesis has these speakers paired with their Synthesis Electronics and calls it the "Synthesis LS" and it retails for $35,000. Same speakers, just adds their electronics. Honestly, a modern receiver is perfectly fine for this speaker system.

Thanks but they are out of my price range. I cannot find an online store that sells them. I am trying to stay under $500 for a pair of bookshelves and center channel. Given the review I might be willing to spend $600 for all three speakers but I cannot find them. Very good find though.

When I sell my Energy speakers I hope to break even at the very least(which will give me $850). So $300-500 for three speakers and the rest for a HSU or Outlaw subwoofer.
post #18 of 31
Thread Starter 
OK I am definitely going for one of these three. Klipsch RB-41, HSU HB-1 Mk2, or the Cambridge S30. Primarily with a focus on HT, but I do care for music too. I don't care about classical or jazz but I do care for rock, pop, rb, and acoustic.

I am looking for a speaker that provides lively, punchy, forward and dynamic sound. I think these three speakers might do that. An example of the type of songs I want to be lively: MS MR - Bones, Michael Jackson - Dirty Diana, Eiffel 65 - Blue, Billy Joel - We Didn't Start the Fire. Right now I feel the songs lack liveliness or soul.

Any comments from anyone who has auditioned these speakers will be helpful. I would prefer not to pay return shipping to audition these so I would like to pick the best one from the start.
post #19 of 31
^^^^^ You will most certainly need a sub with the small Klipsch RB-41s..........their extension is only down to 85Hz.........the Hsu and the Cambridge can get down close to 50 Hz in a "typical room" setting.
post #20 of 31
I have the HB-1s and think they rock. I listen to the same types of music and even at around 95dB I haven't heard them distort. The bass always surprises me and have often checked to see if the sub was on. The mids and highs just seem "right" for lack of a better term. They've never once sounded too bright or harsh. Haven't heard the other choices you mentioned but think these are hard to beat for the money. The rosenut finish is really nice too.
post #21 of 31
I used to own the Cambridge S30s. Excellent speakers at the $225/pair price, but I have heard better for a little more money. Even not having heard the HB-1s, I would lean their way from everything I have read about them. Although in your budget range, I would go with the Arx A1b.
post #22 of 31
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Originally Posted by cel4145 View Post

I used to own the Cambridge S30s. Excellent speakers at the $225/pair price, but I have heard better for a little more money. Even not having heard the HB-1s, I would lean their way from everything I have read about them. Although in your budget range, I would go with the Arx A1b.


Porthos, with your listening preference, the Arx A1bs may not be what you are looking for.............I also own these speakers, and while I love them a bunch, they do not project a energetic soundstage, and they most certainly are not forward........a very "laid-back" presentation. Dynamics are fine. I still like listening to these speakers over the Ascend CBM-170SEs I bought at the same time......which are more forward in their presentation. To each his/her own...............
post #23 of 31
Get the Klipsch if you like and want bright and forward sound.
post #24 of 31
Thread Starter 
Well I ran across a comparison of the HSU HB-1 and an RC-10.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1355638/hsu-hb1-mk2-vs-energy-rc-10/30

Post #56 is the best comparison in the link I provided.

I won't really post what he wrote because at first he said that the RC tweeter was way laid back but detailed which I agree with. Then he jumped all over the place with his comparisons through many posts. First saying the HSU's were more forward, then not, then were... I'm getting the feeling that the HSU's are closer to the RC's type of sound. Throughout the comparison the HSU were similar to the RC's. At one point when comparing the RC's, Pioneers, HSU's, and Energy CB's he mixed up the RC's and HSU...not a good sign for me. Sure they had their differences but I get the feeling the HSU is not the jump I'm looking for. So based on what I read the Energy CB's sound is more up my alley. Still I would like to avoid Energy speakers as I felt after listening to the RC's and Veritas that the Energy sound just isn't for me.

Based on what I have written in Post #1 (feel free to skim this one. Kind of long) and #18 just how would you describe what I am looking for in audiophile terms?
Edited by Porthos01 - 5/10/13 at 4:27pm
post #25 of 31
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Originally Posted by cel4145 View Post

Although in your budget range, I would go with the Arx A1b.

+1

Even with the OPs listening perferences I still think the A1b is a very capable speaker. The Arx IMO does stuff like ACDC, Metallica, Rob Zombie just fine. They have a nice flat freq response, from the freq response chart I seen they are pretty much +/- 2db from 47hrz to beyond 20k but I agree with Padgman that they still can seem alittle laid back, but that might not be a bad thing.

Most heavy metal and rock from my experience seems to be on the bright side anyway and trying a Klipsch or something may turn out to be dreadful and unenjoyable.
post #26 of 31
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Originally Posted by Porthos01 View Post

Well I ran across a comparison of the HSU HB-1 and an RC-10.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1355638/hsu-hb1-mk2-vs-energy-rc-10/30

Post #56 is the best comparison in the link I provided.

I won't really post what he wrote because at first he said that the RC tweeter was way laid back but detailed which I agree with. Then he jumped all over the place with his comparisons through many posts. First saying the HSU's were more forward, then not, then were... I'm getting the feeling that the HSU's are closer to the RC's type of sound. Throughout the comparison the HSU were similar to the RC's. At one point when comparing the RC's, Pioneers, HSU's, and Energy CB's he mixed up the RC's and HSU...not a good sign for me. Sure they had their differences but I get the feeling the HSU is not the jump I'm looking for. So based on what I read the Energy CB's sound is more up my alley. Still I would like to avoid Energy speakers as I felt after listening to the RC's and Veritas that the Energy sound just isn't for me.

Based on what I have written in Post #1 (feel free to skim this one. Kind of long) and #18 just how would you describe what I am looking for in audiophile terms?

The HSUs are not bright or forward sounding. They do NOT use a compression driver for the tweeter. Klipsch are what you are looking for.
post #27 of 31
Where are you located? And have you checked the "I'll demo my speakers..." thread? There may be someone close to you who would be willing to give you a listen. It's in the stickies for the speaker forum.
Joseph
post #28 of 31
Thread Starter 
OK so the HSU is out.

I found the Klipsch RB-61 II's for only $300 from an authorized dealer but the RC-62 center is $500...ouch. The RB-41 and RC-42 come out to about $500 total after discount. I think I might try the Cambridge S30 first just to see if I like them. If I do then I will save some cash. Still after all of the comments I'm leaning towards the Klipsch.

Now there are tons of speakers that have similar laid back characteristics to the RC's (Wharfedale, HSU, LSI, B&W, etc.) . Now can anyone recommend any speakers that are bright, forward, and dynamic. In other words similar to the Klipsch's.

Can I mix and match the many Reference centers? Also what are your opinions of PSB? I think I heard they were bright but I'm not sure where or if that was accurate.
Edited by Porthos01 - 5/10/13 at 6:27pm
post #29 of 31
Paradigm has a reputation for being somewhat bright. Yes, you can mix and match the Klipsch Reference centers, they sound enough alike to not throw off the sound stage with other Reference stuff, although an exact match would be best.
post #30 of 31
fwiw,just another recommendation in your budget boston acoustics a26's $210 accessories4less
edit ; should of read your last post looking for bright sounding speaks the a26's are far from bright so disregard my recommendation
fwiw,personally found the klipsch rb line to fatiguing after long listening sessions loved their dynamics but could hardly get through a movie before sound became a little irratating
Edited by smasher50 - 5/11/13 at 5:13am
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