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post #121 of 159
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You could still put an Insteon keypad by the door (either just inside or outside the theater) that can communicate with the Insteon outlet. That way you can manually turn them on when entering and turn them off via iRule once you're seated and the movie starts.

Interesting, never thought of the keypad idea. I will check them out and see if this could work, since al lthe interior wall are going panels, if I had to punch a hole to pop one in it would not be the worse thing.

On an entirely separate note, mudding crew did great today, got almost all the first coat and inside / outside corners on. Second coat tomorrow and hopefully sanding an final coat by Friday.

Also working on the AV wiring now. Getting the rack all wired in, made all my speaker cables now, good lord I hate banana plugs, my fingers are raw. 22 cables, 2 banana plugs each, 44 ends.... blisters anyone?
post #122 of 159
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Another big progress update.

Av Rack is now done except for 2 wires I forgot to order, they should be here today.

Things went in smooth and I love the clean look of it. Everything is labelled with my office label maker smile.gif

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Got the screen frame all level and attached. Picked up a auto-leveling laser for about $15 on sale and it was worth every penny. The time it saved was well worth it.

Everything is perfectly even and square.

Cut the projector hole bigger to encompass the 3d IR blaster and actually did a test run with the PS3 and SUper Stardust HD.

Let me tell you, it is jaw droppingly awesome at this size. Has a definite Imax kind of feel when so much of the wall is screen.

Also got in all the speaker mounts.

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Started getting all the room acoustics in place. Cut down all the OC703.

To all those that have never use it, Oh My GOD it is horrible. It smells terrible for one, and it is like insulation x10. The fibers in this stuff are so fine they went right through my gloves. Something I was totally not expecting. I was itchy head to toe when I was finished.

I cut down the 2' x 4' sheets into 8 pieces. leaves me about 1' 4" on the diagonal.


Also got in all the Auralex Acoustics Q-Fusors. The giant space left is for my sofa that will be flush with the panels once covered, figured there is no need to fill behind the sofa, it can diffuse sound on its own smile.gif

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Lastly, the mudding crew has today and tomorrow left, final coat going on today and some light sanding, then tomorrow the final sanding and I am good to paint.

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If all goes well I should be laying down carpet on Sunday / Monday.
post #123 of 159
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So small run of bad luck in the last 24 hrs.

Now that we are getting sanded today I figured I would go snag the cabinets for the concession I picked out this spring (a pair of preassembled ones from Rona)

Well the damn things were discontinued.... They were a nice Mocha color that would have matched the rest of the house. Now all they stock is a white or almond color... Argh!

No where else I can find that has stock in such thing, I could custom order but I was going to put them in early next week.

Secondly we had a GE mini fridge picked out for months now as well from Home Depot, well wouldn't you know it, it is discontinued as well.

I was able to find something similar from Danby, not as good a brand, and not quite as big but it will get the job done. Just need it for cold drinks really.

My mudding crew is here sanding away so I will definitely be painting today.

Lots of pics coming soon as I should be moving into the theater and have the better part of things finished up in the next week, minus the acoustical panels of course.
post #124 of 159
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Well folks, the day is finally here!!!

I now have a working theater!!!!

The road has been long and hard, broke my back in the process, literally, and my wallet as well. And to be fair, I still have lots to do, trim, the upholstered panels, all the shelving in the library and the bathroom. But I have a room to relax in again at least.

As of Christmas Eve we had our first movie night in the theater with family. Finished up a scant 1 hr before people arrived.

I am still working out all the bugs in the AV side of things.

Found my XLR cable for my front right main is buggered up. was getting static when powering on the amps that would dissipate after a few mins, did my tone tests and the sound was nearly inaudible. Traced it back to a dead XLR, just thankful it is not the speaker run to the front.

Had another issue with one of my height speakers, one of my SM55s is DOA. I grabbed one from NewEgg as an open box return and the other from AudioGon back in May and this is the first time I have tested them.

No clue which is which, but when I try to pass any sound through it, it trips the amps protection fault circuit and cuts audio to it.

Tested it 7 ways from Sunday and it is 100% the speaker, just not sure what is up.

I have an email out to Def Tech to see if it is under warranty, and if so hopefully I have a local repair place, if not under warranty I will be buying a new one asap.

Spent the day tinkering with InsteoON and iRule to get the lights working. Took forever to remember how to do it (lesson learned, take notes!!)

I did purchase the ISY Automation module for iRule which is really slick. Adds sliders for dimmers, and scene control. Very nice.

Still need to do a full rebuild on the iRule remote to include al lthe new gear, but I am limping it along right now with some success.

Have yet to try out the oppo-103. Heck, I haven't even powered it up yet, tomorrow hopefully.

Concession is in as well, fired up the slurpee machine for the first time. It is out of this world!!! Made my first test concoction, cherry kool-aid (came with the machine) and diet Pepsi. Made awesome diet cherry Pepsi slurpee!!!!

There is a slight downside though, it is bloody loud. The augers are very quiet, it is the chiller that is way too loud though. It takes just about an hr to get to full ice from room temp, and at that point you can turn off the chiller and it will take a few hours to go back to liquid. So we just need to power it up long before a movie.

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All the painiting done this weekend.

Bulkhead in the theater is in Bittersweet Chocolate, looks almost black from a far, but a deep deep brown up close.

The rest is Ashley Grey from Bengamin Moore.

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Padding around the buttkickers.

This design worked wonderfully, better than I could have hoped. Took a bit to calibrate it to a comfortable level. I have it cut at below 40hz now, and it engages on most explosions and such in Call of Duty and movies. Still needs a little tweaking, but the rumble is big when needed.

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Concession cabinets in and the home theater sign is up and powered on.

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And here it is finished.

Movie poster frame came out better than I hoped for. I have yet to get the PC working that will display the posters, but it is all wired in and works. pretty happy with the finished product.

Did have one small snag, the Samsung TV we grabbed does not have a vga connection. I completely forgot to check, so I had to grab a VGA to HDMI active converter. Not a big deal, just was a bit of a shock.

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Console and source central.

PS3, PS4, Xbox One, Xbox 360, WiiU, Oppo-103 all hooked up to a Monster power center.

On the bottom is the APC ups I have, projector plugged in there and the monster power center as well.

Plan to add one fo my server power supply connections as well, just need to grab a cable extender first.

Only had time to get the PS4 and PS3 configured on the Marantz 8801, hopegfully tomorrow with luck.

Also still need to move my HTPC from the bedroom down to the AV room, need a USB A Male to A Male cable first though to connect the keystone to the the pop up. Though I ordered one from Monoprice, but can;t find it if so.

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Shots around the room.

Little snag here as well. I plopped down on the back row to take the last shot and found that the bottom part of the screen is obscured. Not bad in 2:35:1 viewing as the image is much higher, but if anything is 16:9, back row is gonna be screwed.

Now at the ned of the day, not a major concern. We rarely entertain, and if we had proper theater seating back there it would be fine. Issue is the couch is so soft you really sink in, this puts you way too low.

My wife loves the couch though, and it is more for her naps than guest seating to be honest.



All in all I am very satisfied with the final product here.

Things are sounding great in here even with the unfinished room treatments.

I plan to run the Audessy config this weekend or Monday at the latest to get things dialed in properly.



Next up is the trim and the shelving, then I will continue on the room treatments. If all goes well maybe the end of January / Early Feb I should be 100% done.

Fingers crossed!
post #125 of 159
Congrats!

Get some higher legs for the back couch?
post #126 of 159
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Congrats!

Get some higher legs for the back couch?

That may work actually. It is not too bad with the front row reclined, as long as it is not full screen it shouldn't be too big an issue. I hope.
post #127 of 159
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So now that things have settled down post Christmas I have had a chance to get some more things done.

Finished the bathroom down here, just need a little paint on the door and it is complete.

Concession is now 99% done, one more piece of crown molding and some silicone on the counter and it is finished.

Got my new Sm55 in the mail today and ran Audessy 8 point calibration, it made a heck of a difference in my opinion. Still have not listened to much in 11.1 yet, no movies at least.

Also got my additional iTach SL in the mail today as well, so I can finally start using the Oppo. Will be tweaking the irule remote this weekend to get it working I hope.


Someone had asked here a few months back about the slurpee machine. Now that we have fired it up, I can tell you it is loud, REAL loud.

It is the chiller that is the worst part, but there is a little hope here.

It takes only an hour to make full ice beverages. And once it is fully iced up, you can turn off the chiller and just let the auger run, the auger is pretty quiet and can't be heard in the theater 15 ft away.

With the chiller off it will remain icy for about 2-3 hrs. So we fire it up prior to guests arriving and just shut it off then they arrive.

Watched our first big feature.

Monster's University.

Wow... just wow!

The bass in here was extreme to say the least. There is a scene where a huge monster runs from back to front into the university. This actually bottomed out the butt kickers. Very impressive.

Have since dialed them down a bit.

Did a test panel in fabric as well just to see how it will look and how easy they will be.

Pretty impressed with the results. Cut down a 2x4 in the bench saw to 1.5", and popped it together with a 2" brad nail, totally square and looks good with fabric on it. I will snap a pic tomorrow, but thus far I am impressed and it did not take nearly as long as I thought to make one.
post #128 of 159
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Great that your first experience in the new theater elicited a few "Wow!"s. Confirmation that all the planning, money and hard work is going to pay off. I skimmed through your thread front to back. Unfortunate that the ceiling height wasn't even 8' as spec'd. Any explanation from the builder?
That huge screen is definitely a tight squeeze. I apologize if you already discussed this, but wondering why you didn't go scope or perhaps constant area (2.0 ratio), especially considering you have the Panasonic with motorized zoom/focus control. Would have solved all your riser height and line of site woes.
Looking forward to seeing your color scheme come together.

(I'll have to give Monster's University a go. Bought the Blu-ray weeks ago, just haven't gotten around to giving it a spin. Though with my sad little sub the foot falls won't be nearly as impressive.)

Thanks for giving this a read, appreciate your time smile.gif

You are so right, this has made the whole year of planning, drawing, re-planning, researching, re-re-planning and building all worth it. To stand in the room I designed and see it all come together is something I have not experienced before.

You know this is going to sound weird, but never once thought to question the builder on it, just thought it may be "one of those things" Kinda like 2x4s are not actually 2x4". hahaha

I tossed the idea back and forth about screen aspect, for me it came down to probably 75% or great of the material we watch is in 16:9, primarily video games and TV. So the size sacrifice for a narrower screen (or the stretch) was just not worth it. Would I have liked more room up front, certainly, but all in all, I think this was the best of both worlds. As long as the masking system works (hope hope, pray pray) then I will be happy.

Having spent a little over a week with it now it is becoming less of a "OMG that is too big" issue, it is very large, and certainly does take time to adjust to. BUT... It is downright amazing for 3d stuff.

I was never a fan of standard 3d tvs, they are just too small to give a decent effect. But this feels very Imax for lack of a better term, when your entire field of vision is in 3d, it is something to behold, especially when it is in your basement.

Hope you enjoy M:U, it is hands down one of the bassiest films I have watched. Nothing like hearing a monster roar and it makes your eyes water. smile.gif (little from the vibration, and a little from tears of joy)
post #129 of 159
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So I cant quite capture the color of the test panel with my phones camera. Looks very dark and washed out.

Gonna pop it off the wall and move it maybe, it was just shot up temporarily anyway, and then maybe I can capture the color better.

Played with the new iTach device today and got the Oppo-103 set up on the remote.

Popped in Hobbit Extended Edition in 3d for about 15 mins just to check it out.

Looks bloody awesome so far. Could not test the audio out too much as my wife is napping, but from what I did hear it was pretty great.

Audyssey did a fantastic job with room calibration. I was looking at the graphic EQ and it smoothed out a LOT of room issues.

The back of the room is just filled with ambient noise, be it in movies or in video games, it is just coming alive.

I cannot speak highly enough of the Marantz 8801. Think it was one of the best upgrades I made to the HT in years.

I am sure that once I have the panels up on the wall and the 1st reflection points treated it will sound even better yet, so excited to see / hear that come together at the end.

I am also toying with the idea of grabbing the Pro Calibration kit for Audyssey.

After hearing the difference the vanilla EQ32 can do, I would love to see this baby tuned in properly pro level. Just still not sure how to get the kit. I can't find anywhere that sells it online....

Picked up the last of the wood for my wife's library today as well, the corner shelving wood and the backboards should be delivery Tuesday.
post #130 of 159
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OK, so time for a long overdue update (sans pics, sorry)

Been working on the finishings a lot lately, got the crown moldings all finished, and for the record, what a pain in the ass. Silicone has been my friend on these. I have no clue how wood workers from days gone by did such perfect cuts in the corners.

Finished product looks great though, got the door trim and the baseboard done as well.

Primarily been working on all the library and media storage shelving. Built 6 bookshelves now, only 14 more to go!

Since this is my first foray into finished woodworking and staining it has been slow going to say the least. But it looks SO good. Just time an patience.

Got 100% of the wood cut, about 150 pieces total, my whole house smells like a lumber yard, lol. At least Ash lumber smells nice.

On a theater related note I am having a few issues.

First is in the A/V room.

Heat is a major problem, way worse than I expected. The 3 amps in the rack are getting way too hot. The top amp in particular, after a few hours of use it is almost too hot to touch the metal casing.

Been working on some contingency plans here.

First I am going to get a few PC fans and mount them on the door blowing front to back across the gear. This should help a little with the dissipation of heat.

Second I am going to grab another bathroom fan, something that does 100+ CFM and vent the room to the outside, this should suck a significant amount of heat out of the room. Even with the door open it is a good 10-15 degrees hotter in there.

I plan on hooking the fan to some form of insteon device and having it power on when I turn up the gear.

The next issue I have is with grounding, or I think it is grounding.

When my furnace turns on I get a sudden snap or pop on my rear speakers.

From what I have read there could be a grounding issue or bad breaker in play.

This one is going to be much harder to track down. I have to pop the panel open again soon anyway as I have to add another 20a breaker to add to the concession (more on that in a second), when I am in there I will check out the grounds and the breaker for the rear speakers and furnace. I just hope it is one of those two and not something else in the system causing it.

Last issue I am having is the power draw from the concession. If I have the chiller on and the popcorn machine running, I pop my breaker. I researched the slurpee machine and thought I was well withing limits, problem is the damn popcorn maker, when powered up it is slated at 800watts. WAY more than I would have thought.

So between the slupees, mini fridge, butter warmer and the freezer in the next room it is just too much unfortunately.

Since we did not finish the interior of the maintenance room, just did rough drywall, I plan on popping off the one sheet and adding a 20a outlet and a new dedicated circuit.

Last addition is going to be 2 new insteon devices I picked up this week.

They are a line breaker for lack of a better term. The will cut the power to a single power line run. Rated at 20a. This will enable me to turn the amps on and off with iRule. This has been a pain so far, as every time I want to use the theater I need to go into the A/V room and manually turn on all 4 amps. Not a big deal, but still with everything else automated it will be nice to tie this in as well.

If all goes well I hope in the next 2 weeks I should be done the shelving and can finally work on all these other issues, and get started on the theater room treatments.

More pics soon, I promise. Just have not got to taking pics of things for a couple weeks now.
post #131 of 159
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Alright guys, picture post is finally here.

Another busy weekend, finished staining all the backer boards to the shelving. As well as a pile of shelves themselves.

Since we decided to change the flooring in the library to wood from carpet, I now had 15' chuck of carpet left over, so chopped it up and put it into the maintenance room and the A/V room.

Got the shelving in the lobby assembled and installed, and all our movies and games unpacked.

The shelving came out fantastic. All the hard work and elbow grease is paying off.

Finished up all my cuts this weekend as well, so all that is left now is to stain and assemble everything.

Still have to pick up the molding that will cover the joins between shelving units. But that can come later.

Also have some pics here of the bathroom and a much more finished lobby, Crown moldings still need to be siliconed and a few paint touch ups as well.

Also some pics of the woodshop in full swing.

I have assembled 8 shelves now but did a count and I still have 124 boards left to stain and sand.

If all goes well another 2 weeks and I will hopefully have all the shelving done and we can finally get my wife into her library, then it is full speed ahead on the acoustical paneling.

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post #132 of 159
Your project is coming along and looking great. Nice work on the book shelves too.
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Your project is coming along and looking great. Nice work on the book shelves too.

Thanks so much!

Shelving has been real fun. Having never done any real wood working before, this has been awesome. Nerve wracking, but awesome. smile.gif
post #134 of 159
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So no big news to report this week.

Still plugging away at the shelving. Up to 14 shelves assembled now and I have all the main pieces stained with their first coat for the remaining 6 bookcases.

Down to just 62 boars left to stain!!!!

Solved some of my annoying issues this week.

Been having a something odd happening with my receiver lately, my iRule remote seems to be losing connection to it, it will work when powered up, and sometime in the next 15 mins or so it would just stop responding.

I could kill the app and restart it and it would be good again for another 15 mins or so.

This took tons of trouble shooting to track down, but turns out it was a baud setting being to high on the Global Cache device. Now the strange part is, nothing has change since we moved, no clue the cause, but once I lowered the baud rate it works perfectly now.

Secondly I picked up a cooling solution from Cooler Guys, a couple fan and a LCD temp gauge and thermal sensor.

Luckily the holes in the mesh on the server rack all lined up perfectly with the fan holes.

Mounted 3 - 120mm fans and one 300mm fan.

This has taken the amp temp down by about 30 degrees when running. Thermal sensor was showing 98-105 degrees after a movie.

Now they are sitting at around the 70-75 mark. Much better,

The A/V room is still super hot, and I still plan to put in a bathroom fan. Spoke to our mechanical / electrical department at work and they advised I just tie the fan directly into the return air and vent the room back to the HRV system, this way we get some benefit from the heat.

Plan to hook something up soon once I do the next batch of electrical work.

No new pics this week, sorry guys, all I would have to show off is a small wood pile and a lobby packed with assembled shelves. smile.gif
post #135 of 159
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Well gang, my biggest hurdle is now behind me.

As of this morning my wife is finally all set up in her library.

This room took over 200 pieces of ash lumber, all hand sanded and stained (with 2 coats) About 200 hours give or take for the entire room.

Only thing left is to do the trim pieces between each bookshelf unit itself. Still staining those, as they are a little trickier, they are pretty ornate and not taking the stain as well as ash.


Here are the pics of the room empty before we started to unpack.

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Here you can see the secret door ajar.

The area behind contains the crawlspace for storage, the electrical panel, network equipment and such.

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This is how the secret door works.

I have a book threaded with some thin wire that runs to a gate latch and striker. Books have been cored through the bottom corner to allow a 3/8 bolt to to go through them.

That part killed me, as I destroyed 4 - 1907 books today to make this work. Oh the shame frown.gif

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And here is the room filled.

31 boxes of books and a dozen or so rubbermaid totes filled with my wife's vintage toy collection.

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Lastly, hands down the coolest ceiling fan I have ever seen. Fits the decor of the room perfectly.

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After this next weekend I should have the last of the basement odds and ends complete, come carpet at the landing, new carpet for the stairs, and the trim pieces, once that is complete it is full steam ahead on the room treatments for the theater.

I am figuring about mid March it should all be complete, maybe sooner God willing.
post #136 of 159
Excellent job!
got any more info on the door/hinges used? Ive been planning the same entry to my theater. Right down to the hinged book for access. I wasnt sure what kind of latch to use so i think ill just borrow your idea!
i may have missed it, but what kind of wood did you use for the flooring.
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Excellent job!
got any more info on the door/hinges used? Ive been planning the same entry to my theater. Right down to the hinged book for access. I wasnt sure what kind of latch to use so i think ill just borrow your idea!
i may have missed it, but what kind of wood did you use for the flooring.

Thanks man!

I will snap a pic tonight of the hinge for you, it is just a piano hinge, 6 feet long.

Similar to this one - http://www.homedepot.ca/product/72-inch-x1-1-4-inch-nickel-cont-hinge/818130

The key though is in the base of the door itself. To take the stress off the hing, I added casters to the bottom, they stick out about 1/4 inch below the bottom, looks seamless and makes opening the door super easy.

The wood flooring can be found here:

http://www.homedepot.ca/product/sawmill-oak-1894-sqfeet-per-case/857944

10mm laminate flooring, comes with a 30 yr warranty too.

Incredibly easy to install, did the whole room in about 2.5 hours.
post #138 of 159
Laminate!, thats laminate! I hate laminate! I even hate the prefinished stuff i put in our office and dining room. The micro grooves in the prefinished stuff we used in our house really bugs me. Looking at those pictures, i thought for sure that was sanded and finished after install.
I thought about the caster support as well. Im concerned with eventually leaving a mark on the floor due to the high frequency of usage.
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Laminate!, thats laminate! I hate laminate! I even hate the prefinished stuff i put in our office and dining room. The micro grooves in the prefinished stuff we used in our house really bugs me. Looking at those pictures, i thought for sure that was sanded and finished after install.
I thought about the caster support as well. Im concerned with eventually leaving a mark on the floor due to the high frequency of usage.


Hahaha, so does my wife, but she ended up loving it in here.

The marks on the floor may be an issue, for us we are rarely in there crawlspace, but if you are opening it daily it may be an issue long term. If the outside area will be wood, then just make sure you get some wheels that are a soft rubber, not that hard plastic that is on most casters.

If you plan to go drop the wheels I highly suggest you get a better hinge, this one is not going to be nearly strong enough to bear the weight of the shelf and books, it definitely needed the extra support.

Also forgot to answer your other question.

All the shelving is Ash lumber 7.5 deep, 3/4 thick, 8 foot planks. G4S. Not a terrible amount of sanding needed, but there was some rough patches and some were pretty badly bowed. They run about $22 a plank. They take stain well and do not need a wood conditioner, just stain strait over the sanded wood.

Backboards are Mahogany, 4x8 sheets, 1/4 inch thick.
post #140 of 159
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So it has been a while since the last update but I have been busy with the little stuff lately.

Finished up some carpeting on the stairs, got the rest of the moldings stained and on.

Got all my toy collection unpacked and on display, and FINALLY started on the acoustical paneling.

Here is my collection, mostly video game related.

You can see the finished moldings here as well, these are on all the joins in the library shelving as well.

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Went full out on all the panels this weekend.

Assembled all the 2'x2' frames, 56 in total.

I still need to do the few oddball ones that are around the riser, they will require some more cutting and some odd shapes, so they will be done last. But all the full size panels are assembled.

I did come to find that I miscalculated my fabric and need about 2-3 yds more of both the Birch and Cumin GoM. Not a clue how I missed this as my initial measurements are right, I just bought 2 yds less of each color.

I will be putting in an order tomorrow if I can and get it expedited up here for next weekend.

At this rate I figure I should have the panels done in about 2 weeks with luck. Aiming to have the reno here 100% complete by April 5th as I start vacation that day, and I know damn well if I have anything left to do I will toil away yet another vacation and this time I really want to just relax.

Upholstered 21 panels today and got 19 of them on the wall.

Few lessons learned so far.

Really should have taken the staggered approach that Landshark did, they look good, but you can tell (or I can at least) that some of the frames are not perfectly square. It is subtle, but I am a bit of a perfectionist so it is bugging me a bit that they do not line up perfectly. They are squared on all 4 corners, but some of the wood must have a slight bow in it, so they do not fit together perfectly tight as I had hoped. Most do, but a few do not.

I know I am being nitpicky, but not so much I am willing to change anything at this point.

Have not noticed a sonic difference yet, but don't imagine I will until the room is complete.

They are stuffed with Lincoustic at the first reflection point as I showed in my earlier drawings.

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Next weekend I hope to finished up the 2x2 upholstery and start on the ceiling. All the panels up there are going to be 4' x 4', and I will be treating the first reflection the the ceiling as well.

More pics to come next Sunday.
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Another productive weekend.

Finished up the other wall minus the few odd sized panels.

Also managed to get most of the brown trim finished up. Ended up doing it a little different than planned.

I was going to do like Landshark1 and do it in long solid pieces, think he used plywood or mdf, can't recall. I had a bunch of left over mahogany from the library that I planned to use, but it was too thin unfortunately.

On the plus side I cut WAY too many 4' long pieces for the ceiling, so much so I had enough to do all the trim in 4' lengths.

Looks really sharp all finished.

Took a while to do around the outlets and light switches. ended up using the cut pieces of 2' lumber I had as it is the same thickness as the panels, just pre-drilled the screw holes and the plates mounted perfectly.

Had to move up the Wides as well as they would have fallen directly in the middle of the bottom board.

Wanted to mention a bit of a money saver as well. To adhere them to the wall I planned to use No More Nails or Liquid Nail. But when I was at Home Depot I couldn't find it anywhere. In looking I came through the flooring section and found base adhesive. Then I remember from back in my flooring days this stuff is fantastic. Takes a bit to set up, but it sticks like cement when it is dry.

Best part... it is only $3 a tube compared to $13 a tube for No More Nails.

Just shot the panels on with 18g brad nails and did 6 globs of glue per panel.

Anyway, enjoy the pics!

A bit blurry, but lobby in frame construction mode!
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These are the 4' x 4' panels for the ceiling half constructed.

Put them together with a square vice on the corners to make the perfectly square, glue them with LePage construction wood glue, then shoot them with 2 inch 18g brad nails.

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Trim pieces ready to go.

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This workbench sure has taken a beating on this reno!

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Left side wall. Still need a piece behind the height speaker and a small fill piece over the surround.

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Right side, all trim done, just need to make the few custom size pieces for against the riser.

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Hope to have the ceiling finished this coming weekend. Now that all the panels are almost assembled should be a breeze. Planning to screw them to the ceiling though, do not want to risk them falling with just being glued, especially with the vibration from the bass. Also 4 x 4 panels are surprisingly heavy.

As I did not originally plan to do the ceiling, I did not grab any GoM fabric for it. So I hit a local fabric outlet this week to find anything I could that is remotely close.

Managed to find stuff that is pretty close in color, a slight shade lighter brown, and it is thin like grill cloth but super stretchy, should work perfectly. And the best part? Only $5 a yrd. Cost me just over $100 for what I needed.

Once I finally finish up the wall treatments I will be starting on screen masking system. Really need that to be in place so I can finish the front wall treatments as I am not 100% sure how it will be mounted to the wall yet. It was the only thing I have not planned out completely.

Fingers crossed it works out.
post #142 of 159
Sorry if this has already been asked. But what did you end up doing for the Xbox One's kinect sensor? Or are you just forgoing the sensor since your equipment is in a different room. I am currently debating what I am going to do with mine this summer when my build starts.
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Sorry if this has already been asked. But what did you end up doing for the Xbox One's kinect sensor? Or are you just forgoing the sensor since your equipment is in a different room. I am currently debating what I am going to do with mine this summer when my build starts.

Sadly I have to keep it unplugged for now.

I did hear talk of development of 30+ foot cables from 3rd party suppliers, but have not heard a peep for over a month now, so not sure when or if that will happen.

I do have a few spare cat6 drops to the front of the theater for future use, or just as pull cables. If they ever release anything long I will likely put it on my center channel.

The big issue though is will it be of any worth in here.

The last kinect sensor for XB360 did horribly in my old theater, it would not recognize movements at 10ft away. So it may be useless even if they do make an extender.

I have toyed with the idea op putting it in the back corner of the room so it could pick up voice commands at least, just make a small punch hole between the A/V room and the theater and snake the cable.
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Sadly I have to keep it unplugged for now.

I did hear talk of development of 30+ foot cables from 3rd party suppliers, but have not heard a peep for over a month now, so not sure when or if that will happen.

I do have a few spare cat6 drops to the front of the theater for future use, or just as pull cables. If they ever release anything long I will likely put it on my center channel.

The big issue though is will it be of any worth in here.

The last kinect sensor for XB360 did horribly in my old theater, it would not recognize movements at 10ft away. So it may be useless even if they do make an extender.

I have toyed with the idea op putting it in the back corner of the room so it could pick up voice commands at least, just make a small punch hole between the A/V room and the theater and snake the cable.

Yeah my main concern would be for voice commands and party chat without having to use the headset. I can't go back after having the system voice controlled since November tongue.gif
post #145 of 159
You have done a great job, wish I were that handy. I can barely put Ikea bookcases together.
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You have done a great job, wish I were that handy. I can barely put Ikea bookcases together.

Thanks much, appreciate it.

Who knows, one day you may get there smile.gif Nothing that time, a little patience, and youtube can't fix. hahaha
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Yeah my main concern would be for voice commands and party chat without having to use the headset. I can't go back after having the system voice controlled since November tongue.gif

To be honest I have never gotten used to it yet, set it up in the living room for about a month before I moved down to the theater, and never had much time to try out all the voice options.
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To be honest I have never gotten used to it yet, set it up in the living room for about a month before I moved down to the theater, and never had much time to try out all the voice options.

Yeah I get all my games digital so it's nice using you voice to jump back and forth. My fiancé would kill me if I ditched the kinect. I once walked in on her yelling at the lg Blu ray player upstairs "Xbox Pause!" Before like "ohhhh" lol
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Yet another weekend behind us and lots more done this week.

I have 100% of the ceiling finished now.

I made 4' x 4' panel, and did 1 screw per corner, plus glue on all the ceiling panels.

Also did a treatment to the roof in a V like pattern for the first reflection.

Man what a difference.

Things so so clear and precise in their positional locations now.

Not that it sounded bad before, it is just much crisper for lack of a better word.

Also notice a couple things with the dark brown ceiling:

#1 - It makes the screen pop even more, there is very little reflected light here now, and that last bit will go away once I finish the masking system and the front wall.

#2 - It feel like the room is now smaller. I know it is an optical illusion, but it just feels like the room shrunk a size. I will get used to it eventually, but right now it is just a little disconcerting.

Without further ado, here are this weeks pics and explanations:

Shots of the main area ceiling and the ceiling in the back of the room.

Sadly because it is so dark now it is near impossible to get a good pic with my phone camera. Once complete I will have a buddy come by with his DSLR and take some shots.

Took 3 panels across the back, and those white spot are unfortunately large gouges in the drywall.

The bulkhead took a bit of a beating trying to get them into place. Once the room is done I have some misc patching and painting to do, likely next weekend.


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Finished the corners covers for the bass traps today as well, picked up some 2x2x8 to get them done, the lined up real nice, bit of a pain to shoehorn in there, but worked out in the end.

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Finished as much of the back wall as I can until my fabric gets here next week. Just have 10 more 15" pieces to do along the bottom and I am done the walls.

Also finally got the glass and hole finished for the projector.

This one was a real challenge. I have been thinking about it for ages now and actually procrastinating about it as I knew it would be a pain. Ended up making a small box, roughly 4" x 8" and upholstering it. did 2 layers of wood which made it just as thick as the panel plus the diffusers.

You can see a trim of staples around it now, but I plan to pick up some trim and nail it on, I have something in mind, just need to roam around home depot to see if I can find what I want.

The glass was from Edmund Optics, and it works perfectly. Also made things much quieter back there. Did not notice how much fan noise I was getting until I installed the glass. it is now dead silent in here.

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Plan for this week and weekend will be to finish up the panels. And get the drywall mudding and paint touch ups complete.

Hoping to have the last f the crown molding and baseboards finished next week too.

Also still need to cover the telepost in the room.

I have decided I will be using some of the leftover ash lumber to build a square box. I will stain it just like the library and lobby shelves. should tie in nicely.

And if I happen to have any leftover time, I will start on the masking system.

Have my first night with the boys on April 26th, so that is my 100% complete date. Can't see it being an issue as there does not seem to be too much left now.

Again, any questions or comments, feel free.
post #150 of 159
I would be absolutely giddy if my to-do list was as short as yours smile.gif Looks great!
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