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post #31 of 46
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Originally Posted by eric3316 View Post

I don't want to be responsible for swaying your decision so I am not telling you what I would take but I will tell you I would take any of the 55" TV's over a 46-47" TV. You will regret going smaller unless you are sitting like 5ft from your TV.

Oh, I know. I am going 55" for sure, I just have to decide which one to get.

Is is the Samsung UN5556400 vs LG Cinema Screen 55LM8600 at this point.

It seems the 8600 has firmware/powerlight issues. It seemed to go on for quite a few pages in the LG thread.
Edited by tony1381 - 5/20/13 at 12:59pm
post #32 of 46
Stay w/55 or larger....you will not regret it.
As mentioned by an earlier poster, go to the stores, ask for the remote control, and play with it...go thru all set ups, etc until you see the image most pleasing to your eyes.
If they refuse to let you use the remote, then strike them off your list to buy from.

I prefer the Sony HX sets, but that is my opinion.

Let your eyes and wallet help you decide.

Just my 2 cents.
post #33 of 46
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Originally Posted by tony1381 View Post

Oh, I know. I am going 55" for sure, I just have to decide which one to get.

Is is the Samsung UN5556400 vs LG Cinema Screen 55LM8600 at this point.

It seems the 8600 has firmware/powerlight issues. It seemed to go on for quite a few pages in the LG thread.
Look at the 55lm7600 as well. Pretty much the same as the 8600 but a step down. I think it might be a little more then the 8600 is going for right now.

Also, for firmware issues make sure it is discussing the latest firmware. I owned the 7600 for a short while. I know it did not have any software bugs.
post #34 of 46
When reading an owner's thread on a model, make sure that all the complaints aren't coming from the same 2 or 3 guys. If everyone else is satisfied, maybe these guys are incapable of being satisfied. You could get a lot more opinions by reading Best Buy and Amazon customer reviews for the set. Those folks may not be as knowledgeable as AVS'ers, but might give you a better idea of how the set looks to the average guy.

FYI, DisplaySearch.com reported for 2012 that LCDs captured 83.7% of global TV shipments while plasma captured 5.7%. Samsung captured 28% of worldwide maket share revenue, LG had 15%, and Sony 8%.

Good luck in your search. Don't be in a hurry. Enjoy the journey. :-)
post #35 of 46
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When reading an owner's thread on a model, make sure that all the complaints aren't coming from the same 2 or 3 guys. If everyone else is satisfied, maybe these guys are incapable of being satisfied. You could get a lot more opinions by reading Best Buy and Amazon customer reviews for the set. Those folks may not be as knowledgeable as AVS'ers, but might give you a better idea of how the set looks to the average guy.

FYI, DisplaySearch.com reported for 2012 that LCDs captured 83.7% of global TV shipments while plasma captured 5.7%. Samsung captured 28% of worldwide maket share revenue, LG had 15%, and Sony 8%.

Good luck in your search. Don't be in a hurry. Enjoy the journey. :-)

Oh i know, I've read tons of amazon reviews, and also use youtube, cnet, and these forums. I just feel like I'm going in circles though. Gonna go to a few stores after work and try and get some more hands on experience with these sets.

Sony BRAVIA KDL55HX750 seems like a decent one too.
post #36 of 46
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Originally Posted by tony1381 View Post

Oh i know, I've read tons of amazon reviews, and also use youtube, cnet, and these forums. I just feel like I'm going in circles though. Gonna go to a few stores after work and try and get some more hands on experience with these sets.

Sony BRAVIA KDL55HX750 seems like a decent one too.
Good choice as well. Look on the bright side, at least you have choices.
post #37 of 46
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Is there a required distance you should be away from the TV depending on the size? I am buying this for my room that doesn't have the much light and a BB employee said that 50 plus inches might be too big if you are sitting 10-12 feet away. He recommended 46" or smaller.
post #38 of 46
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Is there a required distance you should be away from the TV depending on the size? I am buying this for my room that doesn't have the much light and a BB employee said that 50 plus inches might be too big if you are sitting 10-12 feet away. He recommended 46" or smaller.

Ridiculous. Have a look at this:

http://myhometheater.homestead.com/viewingdistancecalculator.html

And this:



In the end, it's a matter of preference, but I have a feeling not many AVS members are going to agree with that BB employee. No doubt BB has some competent people, but that guy is not among them.

[EDIT] To elaborate, enter 46" diagonal and 16:9 in the calculator. Now go to the very bottom of the results. Six feet is the maximum distance you should be from a 46" TV to fully resolve 1080x1920.
Edited by fritzi93 - 5/20/13 at 8:38pm
post #39 of 46
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Originally Posted by tony1381 View Post

Is there a required distance you should be away from the TV depending on the size? I am buying this for my room that doesn't have the much light and a BB employee said that 50 plus inches might be too big if you are sitting 10-12 feet away. He recommended 46" or smaller.

I know this is anecdotal so it might not be of much help but my friend has a 50" tv and where we sit is only about 6-7 away (my guess). Even at that distance, the picture is still excellent. I even feel that he could go better (if he had the room for the TV). I have a 46" at the distance you are talking about and I can see that there is plenty of room for increase in size.

You may have already seen/read about this but, if you haven't, you might want to check about lag with the TVs. I have a Samsung TV and experience no lag (at least not perceivable by me). I did see some on an older LG and think I had read in the past about lag with LGs. I don't know if that has been improved or not.
post #40 of 46
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I know this is anecdotal so it might not be of much help but my friend has a 50" tv and where we sit is only about 6-7 away (my guess). Even at that distance, the picture is still excellent. I even feel that he could go better (if he had the room for the TV). I have a 46" at the distance you are talking about and I can see that there is plenty of room for increase in size.

You may have already seen/read about this but, if you haven't, you might want to check about lag with the TVs. I have a Samsung TV and experience no lag (at least not perceivable by me). I did see some on an older LG and think I had read in the past about lag with LGs. I don't know if that has been improved or not.


Yeah, I've looked at input lag threads and researched that a pretty good deal. I think it mainly has to due with your internet connection, unless its something like that Panasonic ST Plasmas that just have some sort of defect when it comes to that.


Going to Best Buy just made things worse. The Panasonic S60's looks really nice. Didn't really consider Plasma much until I finally got to tinker around with one.
post #41 of 46
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Yeah, I've looked at input lag threads and researched that a pretty good deal. I think it mainly has to due with your internet connection, unless its something like that Panasonic ST Plasmas that just have some sort of defect when it comes to that.


Going to Best Buy just made things worse. The Panasonic S60's looks really nice. Didn't really consider Plasma much until I finally got to tinker around with one.

My friend's internet is actually a faster/higher tier than mine but, like I said, it was an older LG (I think from 2008 or 2009) so the lag issue might not be there now.

As for the plasma, some things you might want to think about would be screen reflection and the fact that most don't get real bright.
post #42 of 46
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Originally Posted by grjelectronics View Post

My friend's internet is actually a faster/higher tier than mine but, like I said, it was an older LG (I think from 2008 or 2009) so the lag issue might not be there now.

As for the plasma, some things you might want to think about would be screen reflection and the fact that most don't get real bright.

Yeah, I'm not getting a plasma. I am just too afraid of burn-ins and image retention. And the ST60's have input lag problems. Spent a good deal of time double checking what I read on those early last week, even though amazon has them for really good deals. (Panasonic S60's at 60 inches are less than $1400)
post #43 of 46
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Yeah, I'm not getting a plasma. I am just too afraid of burn-ins and image retention. And the ST60's have input lag problems. Spent a good deal of time double checking what I read on those early last week, even though amazon has them for really good deals. (Panasonic S60's at 60 inches are less than $1400)
The S64 at 65" is less then $1,400 as well and has a better filter then the S60. eek.gif

http://www.samsclub.com/sams/65-600hz-plasma-tv-1080p-2-hdmi-wifi/prod9300314.ip?searchTerm=s64

The more you hang out here and the more you read it is just going to make your decision that much harder and even after your purchase you will be questioning if you should have got something else.
post #44 of 46
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The S64 at 65" is less then $1,400 as well and has a better filter then the S60. eek.gif

http://www.samsclub.com/sams/65-600hz-plasma-tv-1080p-2-hdmi-wifi/prod9300314.ip?searchTerm=s64

The more you hang out here and the more you read it is just going to make your decision that much harder and even after your purchase you will be questioning if you should have got something else.

Yeah, the S60/64's are nice, but they only 2 have HDMI outputs (that one is indicating only 1) .



Yeah, I felt more much decisive on what I wanted before I started any research.
post #45 of 46
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Well, I made a decision. A good deal of the reason just comes from being tired of doing research. I started just running in circles. I ordered Direct TV awhile ago (weeks), and the rep thought it was weird I was scheduling installation so far in advance. But I wanted ample time to find a TV I loved. It really came down to a few sets. I never considered any of the beautiful plasmas I saw because I fear burn in/image retention like i do bees. Here are the few I considered.

Sony KDL - W - 802 A - Out of the few sets that I looked at in person, this was the most impressive. The model was a 55" in store, but the one I'd buy was 47". The blacks looked great on the trailers they were running (Star Trek), and the during the HD nature demos, I was extremely impressed by the textures. It looked a helluva lot better than the Samsung LNT or LNA I had at home from several years back. The cnet review really limited my enthusiasm for this one despite how great it looked.

Sony BRAVIA KDL55HX750 - Overall, this is the best TV that I read about online. I was not able to see this in person, as the numerous stores I went too said Sony stopped shipping these out, and the only way would be to order it off amazon, etc.. I probably would have ordered this if I could have found one that didn't take a week to deliver (third party sellers). Impatience got the best of me here, as well as being a little uncomfortable buying something I haven't seen in person.


The one I went with:

Samsung UN55F6400 - This set was near the Sony 802A, but I opted to go with the bigger screen size. I was impressed by how thin the actual TV was, and when they popped in a blu-ray, and later put on an NHL game, I felt like I was sold. It will be interesting to see how it looks in my room (only 1 window), and was as how games play on it (PS3). It looked crystal clear, but again, I still don't know what to look for. Like if someone were to smell the cork after a bottle of wine is presented to them at a restaurant (ultimately, a pointless but popular habit), they don't know they ways of wine like I don't know what ways of HDTV's.

I will say for anyone that is looking for an HDTV, it really, really helps to play around with the set at a store (kudos to the poster who suggested that). Spending 3-4 hours a day researching, watching video reviews, surfing forums & youtube will start to feel counterproductive. It is a necessary part of the process though.

Hopefully I like it, and it will be delivered on Thursday. Now comes the question on whether to wall mount it, but I am leaning towards not doing that.
post #46 of 46
Congratulations on your new set.
Now you can have fun seeking out the best calibration settings for this model....am sure there is an owner's thread you can leap into for guidance.

Enjoy your new purchase!
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