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post #1 of 17
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My wife gets headaches in dark rooms so I'll have to have some side lights on. Theater room is in the basement and is roughly 13 feet wide by 18 feet long. Only 8 foot ceiling. Screen size would have to be at least larger than my current 73" DLP. Quality 3D is a must.

Are there any projectors out there for 1-2k that would fit the bill? Anyone else have family members with similar issues and found creative ways to light a room enough while minimizing impact to the screen? I've been out of this game for a while due to the wife's headache issue. Hoping that technology has improved to the point that it's doable now.

Any help is appreciated. People are charging north of $250 for the 3d adapter for my 3-4yo Mitsu and the 3d on it wouldn't be all that great anyway. Looking to make our home theater room a "used" space again.
post #2 of 17
I just ordered the Optoma HD25-LV as an upgrade from my HD33. I'm hoping the extra brightness will improve the 3D viewing.

I built a fixed frame screen (120") and installed a rope light around the edge on the back side. This lights up the wall but does not spill onto the screen.
This supposedly reduces eyestrain when watching a large image. They are also on a dimmer.
You might do a search for "bias lighting" or similar for more information.

td
post #3 of 17
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Thanks for the tips. I'll definitely look into bias lighting. Worst case I can still leave the sconces on.

I've looked at the HD25-LV as well as the BenQ W1070. Leaning towards the W1070 if I bought today but have plenty of time to research some more.
post #4 of 17
One more thing to consider.
The 1070 3d is DLP link only for the glasses.
The HD25 or HD25-LV have a port for IR or RF controlled glasses as well as DLP Link.
I tried both on my HD33 and stayed with the RF glasses.

td
post #5 of 17
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Originally Posted by tucsondave View Post

One more thing to consider.
The 1070 3d is DLP link only for the glasses.
The HD25 or HD25-LV have a port for IR or RF controlled glasses as well as DLP Link.
I tried both on my HD33 and stayed with the RF glasses.

td

Funny, I was just finishing my lunch hour reading reviews on the HD25 and HD25-LV. The RF glasses look like they'd be superior. The HD25-LV reviews were mixed. Basically the brighter bulb might be leading to decreased blacks so I'd stick with the HD25. Decisions....

The HD25 is a little less, at least on Amazon, and that would cover the price of the RF emitter. Have to make my case to she who must be obeyed tonight.
post #6 of 17
If you can hold out for another day or two, I will be getting my HD25-LV tomorrow and will compare the 3d to my HD33 which is rated at almost the same brightness as the HD25.
I'm trying the LV for the extra brightness and better blacks than the HD33.
td
post #7 of 17
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Originally Posted by tucsondave View Post

If you can hold out for another day or two, I will be getting my HD25-LV tomorrow and will compare the 3d to my HD33 which is rated at almost the same brightness as the HD25.
I'm trying the LV for the extra brightness and better blacks than the HD33.
td

Lol! Holding out will be easy. Probably looking at July time frame. Birthday and anniversary then so an excuse to spend a little. Definitely interested in a report on the LV.

Thanks!
post #8 of 17
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Originally Posted by tucsondave View Post

If you can hold out for another day or two, I will be getting my HD25-LV tomorrow and will compare the 3d to my HD33 which is rated at almost the same brightness as the HD25.
I'm trying the LV for the extra brightness and better blacks than the HD33.
td
I'm also looking forward to your comparison between these two projectors. My desire is for the 3D Image to have as much brightness and POP as the 2D image and, perhaps, 3000 lumens is the only way to achieve this. smile.gif
post #9 of 17
Why not try lcd or lcos and see if it helps with your wife's headaches. Dlp is awful for people with sensitive eyes.
post #10 of 17
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Originally Posted by Verge2 View Post

Why not try lcd or lcos and see if it helps with your wife's headaches. Dlp is awful for people with sensitive eyes.

We've had LCD and DLP rear projection units with no difference in headaches. She gets the headaches at night driving too if there's a lot of oncoming traffic. Full size theaters have always affected her since she was a kid. If the lights are off, she gets a headache. I'm intrigued by the bias lighting though. Might be a good solution.
post #11 of 17
If you are ready to buy the Sharp Z30000 (list $4999.00) is on WOOT for $1799 with 2 pair of glasses and emitter. I just bought one last night, the link is in the deals found thread at the top of this forum. You won't see this projector discussed in this forum as its price up until lately has been well over $4000.
post #12 of 17
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If you are ready to buy the Sharp Z30000 (list $4999.00) is on WOOT for $1799 with 2 pair of glasses and emitter. I just bought one last night, the link is in the deals found thread at the top of this forum. You won't see this projector discussed in this forum as its price up until lately has been well over $4000.

Great deal but unfortunately I'm not sure it would be bright enough with the ambient lighting we'll need. Thanks though!
post #13 of 17
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Originally Posted by jsrdlr View Post

Great deal but unfortunately I'm not sure it would be bright enough with the ambient lighting we'll need. Thanks though!

You do realize that no matter how bright the projector is, anything dark in the image will be completely washed out an not existent with any light hitting the screen? I. E. dark is the absence of light on a white or gray screen. If you add light from elsewhere you will have not dark anything in your image and no detail. Good luck with your project

BTW your wife gets those head aches from your screen being to bight.. or the color wheel in the dlp projection TV. The Z30K has one of the fastest color wheels and no hit of rainbows.. I have not received it yet so only going from what others are posting.. If you are going to buy a 3d projector and want the best you can get for the money this is it. You can add bias light to help with eye strain as well, I do it with my current projector as I use a high gain screen. The trick is to keep the light OFF the screen completely
Bias Lighting next to projection screen
Edited by airscapes - 5/16/13 at 9:48am
post #14 of 17
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Originally Posted by airscapes View Post

You do realize that no matter how bright the projector is, anything dark in the image will be completely washed out an not existent with any light hitting the screen? I. E. dark is the absence of light on a white or gray screen. If you add light from elsewhere you will have not dark anything in your image and no detail. Good luck with your project



Yes, I understand the impacts of lighting on screens. And for heaven's sake yes I understand that dark is the absence of light lol! It's not like we'll have light cannons blasting straight at the screen. She doesn't it need it bright, just not completely dark. I also think the relevant advice about bias lighting could be very beneficial as well. I'll probably have to put more work into minimizing/eliminating reflections than most people but at the end of the day it should look ok when she watches it and very good when she doesn't.
post #15 of 17
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Originally Posted by jsrdlr View Post

Yes, I understand the impacts of lighting on screens. And for heaven's sake yes I understand that dark is the absence of light lol! It's not like we'll have light cannons blasting straight at the screen.

You would be surprised how many people new to Front projection don't quite get how it works.. It does not take much light to trash the black. A simple way to see what black will look like right now with no projector or screen, just hang a piece of computer paper where the screen will be and adjust lighting how you think you will want it. Looking at the paper is looking at the blackest black in your image..
post #16 of 17
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Originally Posted by airscapes View Post

You would be surprised how many people new to Front projection don't quite get how it works.. It does not take much light to trash the black. A simple way to see what black will look like right now with no projector or screen, just hang a piece of computer paper where the screen will be and adjust lighting how you think you will want it. Looking at the paper is looking at the blackest black in your image..

I work in IT so I do understand how some people don't "get" things. I know you were just trying to make sure the basics were covered and prevent a "This projector sucks" thread lol! My expectations aren't very high for when my wife will watch it but I think we can reach a happy medium at some point. Thankfully the kids like the lights out!

Thanks.
post #17 of 17
I would still advise against a cheaper dlp for headaches.
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