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post #121 of 7316
I somehow missed this thread awhile ago and sent out a query as to whether such a thread existed. Mark that up to a Community newbie!
I couldn't be happier with my Sony 65" 4K. Everything looks great on it, from whatever distance I look at it.
One question: since the last software upgrade, I seem to have lost Netflix. Pressing the remote Netflix button or the onscreen icon, I get no response. Anyone experiencing this problem?
post #122 of 7316
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Originally Posted by rkolk View Post

I somehow missed this thread awhile ago and sent out a query as to whether such a thread existed. Mark that up to a Community newbie!
I couldn't be happier with my Sony 65" 4K. Everything looks great on it, from whatever distance I look at it.
One question: since the last software upgrade, I seem to have lost Netflix. Pressing the remote Netflix button or the onscreen icon, I get no response. Anyone experiencing this problem?

I read in your other thread that you owned a Sony 70XBR2. Sorry that you had the dreaded optical block issue with it. I guess I was one of the very few lucky ones to never have that happen. I used mine for 6 years, and in all that time never had a problem. And interestingly I was still was using the original lamp.

Glad to hear that you're enjoying your new Sony 4K TV. I'm curious, is your new set a whole lot smaller than your 70" Sony. The 70" (with attached speakers) is HUGE! I didn't want to go smaller, so I went with an 84" model (other brand). I love my new TV, I was just curious.
post #123 of 7316
I wouldn't say a "whole lot" smaller," but smaller enough to have to get used to. The resolution of the 4K seems to compensate for the reduced screen space.
post #124 of 7316
I just ordered an XBR-65X900A from Best Buy, got a pretty good deal I would say.
Effectively got a 4 year extended warranty, or no tax, roughly the same amount.

I found the link below for a $200.00 rebate on the 4K Media Server FMP-X1.
Should help most people since I believe many of us will order this streaming device.

https://sonystyle.custhelp.com/ci/documents/detail/5/98

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Hello Sony Customer,

In appreciation of your 4K Ultra HD TV purchase (55X900A / 65X900A), you are eligible to receive a $200 voucher toward the purchase of the new 4K Ultra HD Media Player. To receive the voucher, please supply the requested information below.

Sony will then send you an email with the $200 voucher when the 4K Ultra HD Media Player is available for purchase. The voucher will be valid for 60 days from the date of the email.

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post #125 of 7316
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Originally Posted by rkolk View Post

I wouldn't say a "whole lot" smaller," but smaller enough to have to get used to. The resolution of the 4K seems to compensate for the reduced screen space.

Yeah, I'm sure that the increased resolution does compensate for a smaller screen size. Have you watched any 3D Blu-ray's on it yet? If so which ones, and how did they look?
post #126 of 7316
No 3Ds yet. Tried Sony's 3D trailer site, but the images were dim and unimpressive.
post #127 of 7316
Are there any XBR-65X900A owners who are afraid that their TV will be somewhat outdated once HDMI 2.0 is released this year? This is what is holding me back from purchasing it.
I am assuming that next years Sony 4K TV's will have HDMI 2.0.

HDMI 2.0 Article:
http://www.digitaltrends.com/home-theater/hdmi-2-0-explained/
post #128 of 7316
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Originally Posted by RoubaixPro View Post

Are there any XBR-65X900A owners who are afraid that their TV will be somewhat outdated once HDMI 2.0 is released this year? This is what is holding me back from purchasing it.
I am assuming that next years Sony 4K TV's will have HDMI 2.0.

HDMI 2.0 Article:
http://www.digitaltrends.com/home-theater/hdmi-2-0-explained/

There's been talk of them supplying buyers with an upgrade kit for HDMI 2.0 but this kind of goes against marketing strategy. Their next version will 2.0 compliant and likely 240Hz. They will want you to upgrade to the new set. There's no money in it for them to supply the old sets with a kit. I suspect the talk of a conversion kit is only talk to make you buy the first version.
post #129 of 7316
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Originally Posted by RoubaixPro View Post

Are there any XBR-65X900A owners who are afraid that their TV will be somewhat outdated once HDMI 2.0 is released this year? This is what is holding me back from purchasing it.
I am assuming that next years Sony 4K TV's will have HDMI 2.0.

Even if 4k takes off it will be years before UHD televisions and content become common. In the meantime the X9 has excellent PQ.
post #130 of 7316
It would be nice if Sony followed the way of Samsung and supplied an upgrade 'kit' (for a price) much like Samsung with their Smart TV Evolution Kit.
post #131 of 7316
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Originally Posted by kbrod1 View Post

It would be nice if Sony followed the way of Samsung and supplied an upgrade 'kit' (for a price) much like Samsung with their Smart TV Evolution Kit.

I pressed a high level Sony rep on this very question prior to my 65 purchase. He did a good job not bending and giving specifics even though I was very clear about the concern of coming obsolescence tis Fall with HDMI 2.0. He said that Sony would not leave us early adopters stranded as standards evolved. He just asked for confidence in them, which I know is a lot to ask of any manufacturer these days. I was clear in what I was saying and even mentioned that people wouldn't consider downconversion or backwards compatibility to be on par with a hardware upgrade to HDMI 2.0. We'll see what happens but this combined with what we've heard elsewhere strongly suggests that they intend to offer something like this. Now we'll see if they actually follow through with it.
post #132 of 7316
HDMI 2.0 with 4K is the selling point for me now. So if Sony is interested in getting their hands on my 6K they best be releasing a statement to that affect via a commitment to providing an upgrade path to HDMI 2.0; prior to Samsung's release of their competing panels in the coming month.

Their actions now could very well sway my Xbox vs. PS4 decision later!
post #133 of 7316
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Originally Posted by REKing View Post

HDMI 2.0 with 4K is the selling point for me now. So if Sony is interested in getting their hands on my 6K they best be releasing a statement to that affect via a commitment to providing an upgrade path to HDMI 2.0; prior to Samsung's release of their competing panels in the coming month.

Their actions now could very well sway my Xbox vs. PS4 decision later!

They really should make a announcement soon. Samsung could win some buyers over next month.
post #134 of 7316
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Originally Posted by Speakerphile View Post


Just to clarify for everyone. The "Mastered in 4K" Blu-Ray's are not actually 4K Blu-Ray's. They are, quite literally, "Mastered in 4K". They are output in 1080p, and the TV upconverts them.

Also, ComputerTech, native 4K Blu-Ray's don't even exist. How can you be sure that they won't play on current 4K sets? The only limitation would be that the max framerate over HDMI 1.4 is 30 frames. This is adequate for BD, since they will typically play at 24 frames.

Because I read these types of 4k sets will need conversion boxes, if the box even comes out, for 4K content or at least thats what Samsung says. From what I understand, this is like the first 1080p years when TVs could't even accept 1080p over HDMI yet even though their native resolution was 1080p.
post #135 of 7316
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Originally Posted by electrofascist View Post

It seems Sony's "upgrade path" is the FMP-X1 media player. Sony's CEO has stated that a physical format is unlikely http://www.computerandvideogames.com/385531/new-disc-format-for-4k-content-unlikely-says-sony-ceo/ and whereas PS3 had BR relatively early, Sony seems unconcerned about 4k physical format for PS4. An observation: It seems Sony occasionally pulls out all the stops for an exceptional high-end model (the last one was the XBR8) with little concern for the competition.

I believe you are confused. Everybody here is speaking of wanting HDMI 2.0 on these sets, something Samsung is allowing owners of their 4K sets to upgrade to, but Sony has not made a official statement on.

What you are looking at is simply Sony stating 4K movies probably wouldn't be seeing physical copies anytime soon. Digital has been their chosen method to distribute them.
post #136 of 7316
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Originally Posted by vaxick View Post

I believe you are confused. Everybody here is speaking of wanting HDMI 2.0 on these sets, something Samsung is allowing owners of their 4K sets to upgrade to, but Sony has not made a official statement on.

What you are looking at is simply Sony stating 4K movies probably wouldn't be seeing physical copies anytime soon. Digital has been their chosen method to distribute them.

Who is confused? The point is that Sony has sent a message. Sony prefers 4k digital downloads. For that HDMI 2.0 is unnecessary. All you need is the FMP-X1.
post #137 of 7316
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Originally Posted by electrofascist View Post

Who is confused? The point is that Sony has sent a message. Sony prefers 4k digital downloads. For that HDMI 2.0 is unnecessary. All you need is the FMP-X1.

You're confused. These TV's can't even accept a 4K television broadcast right now. HDMI 2.0 is required for this. Forget 4K gaming on these TV's ever too because that needs HDMI 2.0. Unless you want to play games with a capped framerate. Yes, consoles won't be doing anything more than 1080P gaming, but PC's will be able to and Steam has made television PC gaming very popular.

Sony is only talking about the distribution method for 4K video. This isn't new, they have been discussing this for over a year now. The codecs Sony uses are too large for Blu ray discs. The only codec technology that can fit a 4K movie on a Blu ray disc is Red Ray.
post #138 of 7316
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Originally Posted by vaxick View Post

You're confused. These TV's can't even accept a 4K television broadcast right now. HDMI 2.0 is required for this. Forget 4K gaming on these TV's ever too because that needs HDMI 2.0. Unless you want to play games with a capped framerate. Yes, consoles won't be doing anything more than 1080P gaming, but PC's will be able to and Steam has made television PC gaming very popular.

Sony is only talking about the distribution method for 4K video. This isn't new, they have been discussing this for over a year now. The codecs Sony uses are too large for Blu ray discs. The only codec technology that can fit a 4K movie on a Blu ray disc is Red Ray.

You are confused if you expect Sony to retrofit every X90 with HDMI 2.0. You may not like the answer, but Sony's equivalent to the "evolution kit" is probably FMP-X1. That's the cost of early adoption.
post #139 of 7316
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Originally Posted by electrofascist View Post

You are confused if you expect Sony to retrofit every X90 with HDMI 2.0. You may not like the answer, but Sony's equivalent to the "evolution kit" is probably FMP-X1. That's the cost of early adoption.

No, I'm just not going on a illogical witch hunt.

Lets look at the facts, you linked to a article from a gamer website. A website that does not discuss televisions or news for them. The article itself simply discusses how Sony is only planning on releasing movies via the internet and not on a physical media format. The article never even mentions that over priced $700 media player. There isn't some underlying message.

So, how does digital distribution relate to HDMI? The question everybody in this thread has been asking after a news article stated Sony was HINTING at offering a upgrade solution for their televisions. You keep reading news about digital distribution all you want, but the princess you're looking for isn't going to be in the castles you are looking in.
post #140 of 7316
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Originally Posted by vaxick View Post

No, I'm just not going on a illogical witch hunt.

Lets look at the facts, you linked to a article from a gamer website. A website that does not discuss televisions or news for them. The article itself simply discusses how Sony is only planning on releasing movies via the internet and not on a physical media format. The article never even mentions that over priced $700 media player. There isn't some underlying message.

So, how does digital distribution relate to HDMI? The question everybody in this thread has been asking after a news article stated Sony was HINTING at offering a upgrade solution for their televisions. You keep reading news about digital distribution all you want, but the princess you're looking for isn't going to be in the castles you are looking in.

There's no need to be so rude. All of these questions were addressed, just put the pieces together. Look, Sony should upgrade the X90 to HDMI 2.0, but there is no reason to expect it based on past and current events. It's irrelevant whether we agree or not.
post #141 of 7316
One thing is certain; if the PS4 and Xbox One are released sans HDMI 2.0 they will be obsolete the day before they go on sale.

Does anyone believe these companies are that stupid?
post #142 of 7316
Good point.
post #143 of 7316
Hey guys. Just got my 55 inch yesterday. I am having one issue that I cant seem to resolve. None of the sony built in apps will transmit audio over hdmi which sucks when I wanna use netflix. The built in speakers work fine. Due to my wall mount setup im forced to use HDMI 2. I am wondering if its the ARC channel causing the issue. All my other devices work fine and my cable is up to spec. Audio out is set to audio out and not headphones. Any ideas?
post #144 of 7316
Also I used the screws that were in the wall mount locations for the brackets and they seem to hold fine. I read I should not be using them though and now im paranoid. Anyone use the supplied screws in the wall mount location?
post #145 of 7316
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by REKing View Post

One thing is certain; if the PS4 and Xbox One are released sans HDMI 2.0 they will be obsolete the day before they go on sale.

Does anyone believe these companies are that stupid?

Manufacturing begins months in advance of release, so the first units will likely be 1.4. Millions will buy either way.
post #146 of 7316
Try pressing the "Sync Menu" Button on your remote. This will give you the choice to switch the ARC output to your A/V receiver. It worked for me.
post #147 of 7316
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Manufacturing begins months in advance of release, so the first units will likely be 1.4. Millions will buy either way.

I've had my PS3 for seven-years now and it is still one of the most advanced Blu-ray Players available today; PS 2 had a six-year run at the top. I sincerely doubt Sony will debut its new flagship all-in-one with its eye on the past while Microsoft is nipping at its heels and desperate for a win.
post #148 of 7316
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Originally Posted by REKing View Post

One thing is certain; if the PS4 and Xbox One are released sans HDMI 2.0 they will be obsolete the day before they go on sale.

Does anyone believe these companies are that stupid?

I'm not sure that even matters for 99% of people buying them. The only 4K they will be doing is movies, that's it. They just won't be able to do 3D in 4K which isn't a major deal since 3D is just about the least popular feature on a TV for the majority of consumers.


Btw, what is up with the total lack of reviews for this television? Even the W900A has reviews and it was released after this set. I just want to know the input lag numbers because it's hard to look away from Sony's 1080p set that does 8ms.
post #149 of 7316
With all of these concerns about HDMI 2.0, I am seriously reconsidering taking delivery of a 65X900A next Monday.
I will think through it this weekend, but I don't want to end up with the equivalent of a DVI set in an HDMI world (Been there before...)

I just found this interesting article about the FMP-X1.
Sony will use eyeIO's video compression tech to deliver 4K movies

http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/31/sony-will-use-eyeios-video-compression-tech-to-deliver-4k-movie/
post #150 of 7316
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Originally Posted by rkolk View Post

Try pressing the "Sync Menu" Button on your remote. This will give you the choice to switch the ARC output to your A/V receiver. It worked for me.

Hmm. I didn't have the option to change arc. I'm gonna switch it to hdmi 1 later
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