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post #2191 of 7241

Someone suggested this unit...

 

WOW !!!! this is a never ending story..

 

APC H15BLK 12-Outlet H-Type Rack-Mountable Power Conditioner

post #2192 of 7241
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Originally Posted by LeeSoFl View Post


TV uses 338w max for 65X900A.

I have TV, cable box, modem and router on a Belkin 1100 UPS

I need to replace batteries every 18 months.

 

So 750 watts should be enough for the battery back up?

Or 1000 watts?

 

Damn I have the Oppo too...

post #2193 of 7241
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Originally Posted by quovadis123 View Post

Someone suggested this unit...

WOW !!!! this is a never ending story..

APC H15BLK 12-Outlet H-Type Rack-Mountable Power Conditioner



Power Conditioning devices are nice as a bells and whistles add-on.

Uninterrupted power is essential here in FL (and any other area prone to power blinks.)

http://www.tripplite.com/en/products/ups-battery-backup-systems.cfm?gclid=COn21vi1-7kCFcZj7AodfhsAAQ
post #2194 of 7241
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Originally Posted by quovadis123 View Post

So 750 watts should be enough for the battery back up?
Or 1000 watts?

Damn I have the Oppo too...

You'd probably be okay, the device will tell you if it's being overtaxed. Good test is after plugging everything into the UPS, pull the plug of the battery backup and see what happens.

Bigger is better in these cases.

(Fortunately, my 65" 4K uses a lot less than the 50" plasma it replaced.)
post #2195 of 7241
Sorry, but did anyone see my question by chance?

Are you guys leaving the Sony Media Players on all the time? Or shutting them down when not watching a 4k movie?

Thanks.
post #2196 of 7241
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Originally Posted by sports fan View Post

Sorry, but did anyone see my question by chance?

Are you guys leaving the Sony Media Players on all the time? Or shutting them down when not watching a 4k movie?

Thanks.

It should automatically turn off when you switch to another input. For me when I watch it, I switch to HDMI 4 and then in the applications select the 4k option. Once I am done, I just use my harmony controller to set it watch tv or play a game or whatever, but as soon as I switch it to another HDMI input it turns itself off.
post #2197 of 7241
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Originally Posted by quovadis123 View Post
 

 

So 750 watts should be enough for the battery back up?

Or 1000 watts?

 

Damn I have the Oppo too...

 

 

The UPS doesn't need to keep everything powered on for an extended period of time.  It just needs to have enough capacity to ride through the short power glitches that occur during a typical thunderstorm.  If you perceive that an outage will be extended, you are likely going to power down your components pretty quickly.

post #2198 of 7241
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Originally Posted by AustinJerry View Post


The UPS doesn't need to keep everything powered on for an extended period of time.  It just needs to have enough capacity to ride through the short power glitches that occur during a typical thunderstorm.  If you perceive that an outage will be extended, you are likely going to power down your components pretty quickly.

I was under the impression that the UPS powers all devices from the battery while constantly recharging. I read now the difference between standby and continuous back ups.
post #2199 of 7241
Does anyone know if there might be an update for the FMP-X1 to enable the tv to use more or the noise reduction settings when playing 4k movies? right now the only setting that is available to edit is the "noise filtering" setting. I ask because some of the 4k movies do tend to become realy noisy particularly the older titles. This seems worse than a bluray almost. I dont keep the noise filtering setting higher than 20 because the higher you go, the more fine detail you sacrifise. Any suggestions? thanks everyone smile.gif
post #2200 of 7241
For a specific battery size and a specific load, a UPS will have a measurable time that it can sustain the load. As the battery size gets smaller, or the load gets larger, the time the load can be sustained will get shorter. If you add up the power draws from each component that will be on the UPS, and specify that you want the load sustained for, say, five minutes, the UPS manufacturer can tell you the size UPS you will need. My point earlier is that you only need to sustain the load for a very short period of time to ride out a glitch, so the UPS size is likely to be reasonable.
post #2201 of 7241
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Originally Posted by AustinJerry View Post

For a specific battery size and a specific load, a UPS will have a measurable time that it can sustain the load. As the battery size gets smaller, or the load gets larger, the time the load can be sustained will get shorter. If you add up the power draws from each component that will be on the UPS, and specify that you want the load sustained for, say, five minutes, the UPS manufacturer can tell you the size UPS you will need. My point earlier is that you only need to sustain the load for a very short period of time to ride out a glitch, so the UPS size is likely to be reasonable.

Very true, a 1kVA UPS should be more than enough and they run around $500.
post #2202 of 7241
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Originally Posted by trab37 View Post


Very true, a 1kVA UPS should be more than enough and they run around $500.

 

Im going nuts here.

 

is it better to have all electronics plugged into this APC H15BLK 12-Outlet H-Type Rack-Mountable Power Conditioner 

 

Or directly into something like this CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD PFC Sinewave UPS 1500VA 900W PFC Compatible Mini-Tower

 

How about placing the H15 directly out of the wall socket, then plugging the battery back up into the h15?

 

Or does the battery back up also do a good job of conditioning power?

 

Someone make me understand !!

post #2203 of 7241
I don't understand why you are not calling the vendor and asking their advice directly. After all, they should be the experts on the products they sell.

HST, a battery backup unit also provides surge protection. As a general rule, it is not recommended to daisy-chain battery backups and power conditioners. You should also consider the requirements of each of your components. For example, I have both an AVR and a separate power amp. As per the vendor's recommendation, neither of there components should be placed on a battery backup because of the high current requirements of power amplifier circuits.

You will have a TV, a speaker bar, an AppleTV, and a Blu-ray player, IIUC. Of these components, I would say the TV would benefit most from the protection of a battery backup, while the other components won't benefit that much.

In my system, I have both a battery backup and a power conditioner. I have my satellite DVR's on the battery backup (because they take 5 minutes to reboot after a power glitch), and my network gear (cable modem and wireless router, because I never want to lose my network). All other components, TV, AVR, AppleTV, and Oppo Blu-ray are on the power conditioner, but not the battery backup. This protection scheme has worked well for me, and we have our fair share of violent weather here in Texas as well.
post #2204 of 7241
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Originally Posted by Geoff D View Post

I don't think so, because I've seen the lines on every 55X9 that I've seen so far (3 of them, one a May build and the other two from July), although they're imperceptible at a viewing distance of 9 feet or greater.

The lines are not, I repeat NOT an issue on the 65" which is what I believe most folks in this thread have, that's why it hasn't been mentioned much. Aside from when I mentioned it a couple months ago, natch. wink.gif

The X9 thread over at AV Forums has more than a few mentions about the lines on the 55". But it really does seem like some folks are more sensitive to them than others, because they either hit you in the face straightaway or you never notice them.

Thank-you! its not just me then. I double checked a 65 incher at Future Shop and didn't notice any scan lines. Even put the set in Cinema 1 mode which is what I'm presently using at home and no lines. May trade up to the bigger set...
post #2205 of 7241
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Originally Posted by AustinJerry View Post

I don't understand why you are not calling the vendor and asking their advice directly. After all, they should be the experts on the products they sell.

HST, a battery backup unit also provides surge protection. As a general rule, it is not recommended to daisy-chain battery backups and power conditioners. You should also consider the requirements of each of your components. For example, I have both an AVR and a separate power amp. As per the vendor's recommendation, neither of there components should be placed on a battery backup because of the high current requirements of power amplifier circuits.

You will have a TV, a speaker bar, an AppleTV, and a Blu-ray player, IIUC. Of these components, I would say the TV would benefit most from the protection of a battery backup, while the other components won't benefit that much.

In my system, I have both a battery backup and a power conditioner. I have my satellite DVR's on the battery backup (because they take 5 minutes to reboot after a power glitch), and my network gear (cable modem and wireless router, because I never want to lose my network). All other components, TV, AVR, AppleTV, and Oppo Blu-ray are on the power conditioner, but not the battery backup. This protection scheme has worked well for me, and we have our fair share of violent weather here in Texas as well.

 

Thanks for the info.

I shall also place the comcast box on a battery back up, I saw it takes up to 15 minutes to reboot. Oppo too.

The rest can go onto a conditioner.

post #2206 of 7241
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Originally Posted by AustinJerry View Post

I don't understand why you are not calling the vendor and asking their advice directly. After all, they should be the experts on the products they sell.

Sadly that doesn't seem to be the case for many of todays manufacturers any more.
post #2207 of 7241
Just purchased the 65" for $5350 aussie dollars . It get delivered in the next 2 hours!!!!! Booyah! smile.gif
post #2208 of 7241
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Originally Posted by disker72 View Post


Sadly that doesn't seem to be the case for many of todays manufacturers any more.

 

Vendors?? 

Mushrooms placed in tech support, more like.

No way.

All the good information I found on the Oppo for example was in this forum. I called Oppo many times and they lied about everything. (I can give you concrete examples).

Same thing goes for Sony, I called and asked questions about the sound bar. I got some Filipino guy reading a manual to me. 

 

All the good information I have obtained on the tv was in here from real people and owners. I called Sony today to ask how much power the tv consumed in watts...the guy told me it was 120Vac.

Also when you post a question people answer you quickly, no waiting on the Phone. (Actually Oppo answers real fast).

 

Some vendors are good though, I do not want to put them all into the same boat.

post #2209 of 7241

Make fun of my advice, I don't care.

 

What I was trying to say is that if you want to find the appropriate size UPS, you should use the resources available to you from the UPS vendor.  For example, for APC, you can access their "Runtime by Load" web page here.  If you know your load and have an idea of what your runtime expectations are, this page will help you find a UPS to meet your requirements.  I value the input I get on AVS as well as anyone, but for this specific topic, I would trust the technical web page over a recommendation from an AVS poster any day.

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Whats the best hdmi port for the pc? Thanks
post #2211 of 7241
Hey guys just wanted to update my situation.... Many of you know that I had issues with Directv viewing on the X9. After tons of help from this thread, switching my DVR box to upscale to 1080i/1080p has improved my PQ drastically! I am however still going thru with my return pickup with bestbuy. BUT I will be reordering another X9!! Theres no way I can ever own a non 4k set after seeing what the X9 is capable of. I would have canceled the return but I have some weird white blotches on my screen that are pretty noticeable on dark content... I dont know if this is light bleeding through or what, but it bugs me! I'm hoping that my new X9 will not have this issue. Thank again for all the help guys!
post #2212 of 7241
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So my new Sony 65X9004A 4K TV arrived today. Man is it huge and heavy. But most of all sexy!

I purchased it for the purely to be used as a PC Monitor for games. I understand that this model TV only has HDMI 1.4 at the moment and although it will get upgraded to HDMI 2.0 soon via an online Firmware update their is no current GPU that has HDMI 2.0. Maybe I can get a DP1.2 to HDMI adapter and it will work? But still if all else fails I will just have to wait for a GPU with HDMI 2.0 and enjoy the high res on slower games for now.

So I unboxed and some how managed to fit this beast into my 10 foot by 11 foot office. It absolutely dominates my desk! I plugged in my hdmi cable into my top GTX Titan and into the tv. I turn on my tv and ran through the general setup (5 mins) and then selected the hdmi source for my computer. My god I was greeted to a beautiful splendid picture and basically needed to change my pants. I thought at this point I need to take some photos but I didnt like the desktop background. So I right clicked on the desktop and I accidentally click on screen resolution where I was greeted with the shock of my life!!!!!!!!! The TV was only running at 1080p!!!!! Yes 1080p!!!! This TV is a machine and can upscale 1080p to near 4k quality. I would say its half way. I switched to 3840 x 2160 and all the desktop icons shrunk and shot across the screen up into the top left corner. everything seams instantly so small and it even annoyed me but now 1 hour later Im loving it. All the extra real estate is awesome! I had to try a game after all that. I went to the TV settings and flicked it to Game Mode and opened up the one game I think may make this TV really shine - ARMA 3. OMG!!! every setting was set ultra and bang the game loaded up and the texture and environment looks real! I quickly hit enter to see 3rd person and it looks like a guy is standing in front of you and your looking through a window. And then a doubt crept into my mind what if its laggy and looks bad when turning and moving because of motion blur. Well I took my little soldier on a run and spin and it looks fantastic and this is only 30hz. Imagine when HDMI 2.0 is sorted and its running at 60hz twice as good!!!!!! The lag was not perceivable at all and felt good. i played for 10 minutes and thought lets give a twitch FPS game like COD a go. Well i don't know what happened but it was laggy. the motion blur was fine bearable but the textures and game looked shocking. The game gave no justice to the 4k TV. I then moved onto NBA 2k13. the game looks awesome but motion blur is visable but you get used to it. It feels like playing 2k13 on the PlayStation but far superior graphics.
Basically once HDMI 2.0 GPU's come out this TV will really come alive for me. I'm over the FPS on PC because I must admit there are some good lads that play. I haven't tried any EA games because Im having trouble logging in. I really want to try FIFA, Simcity and BF3. Maybe BF3 will be ok on the more open maps and try not to get involved in close combat (maybe camping LOL).

Any questions feel free to ask and I will try and respond or try stuff out for you.

****I just uploaded these photos and as I was picking the good from the bad I relized how easy 4k makes photo editing!

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1080p upscaled
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4k web browsing
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Arma III in 4K
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Nba 2k13 - When the ball gets flicked around there is some motion blur.
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Visable Motion Blur on Wade.
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post #2213 of 7241
"Any questions feel free to ask and I will try and respond or try stuff out for you."

Congrats hatlesschimp. I'm so jealous. I'm trying to do the same things your doing with my 65 inch. I bought a Mac mini to try to push out 4k but to no avail. What kind of rig/setup do you have to do the 4k web browsing and gaming? System and cords? Thanks in advance and congrats again.
post #2214 of 7241
Processor - Intel i7 3930k
Motherboard - ASROCK x79 EXTREME11
Graphics Cards - 3 - WAY SLI GTX TITANs
Power supply - AX1200i

You can find my full rig here.
http://www.overclock.net/lists/display/view/id/4502321

But depending on what you want you dont need to go to hard to get some 4k computer action.
post #2215 of 7241
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Originally Posted by hatlesschimp View Post

Processor - Intel i7 3930k
Motherboard - ASROCK x79 EXTREME11
Graphics Cards - 3 - WAY SLI GTX TITANs
Power supply - AX1200i

You can find my full rig here.
http://www.overclock.net/lists/display/view/id/4502321

But depending on what you want you dont need to go to hard to get some 4k computer action.

Yeah I'm no PC gamer. I just want to do some 4k action on my tv. The media server from Sony is getting old. Would like to do the 4k YouTube videos in their original 4k resolution. Any suggestions? There's got to be a cheaper alternative.
Edited by Gillietalls - 10/4/13 at 5:24am
post #2216 of 7241
I would get a Nvidia series 7 graphics card.

from best to worst GTX 780, GTX 770, GTX 760.

The GTX 760 is no slouch and will play your videos. Ive been trawling youtube 4k conmtent for the last hour and its good that all the movie companies are releasing their trailers in 4k too.
But gaming is going to be a bit limited with the 760. I think the Nvidia 6 series will play 4k as well but Im not 100 percent.

http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-760/specifications

$250 on newegg
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130933
post #2217 of 7241
So my new Sony 65X9004A 4K TV arrived today. Man is it huge and heavy. But most of all sexy!

I purchased it for the purely to be used as a PC Monitor for games. I understand that this model TV only has HDMI 1.4 at the moment and although it will get upgraded to HDMI 2.0 soon via an online Firmware update their is no current GPU that has HDMI 2.0. Maybe I can get a DP1.2 to HDMI adapter and it will work? But still if all else fails I will just have to wait for a GPU with HDMI 2.0 and enjoy the high res on slower games for now.

So I unboxed and some how managed to fit this beast into my 10 foot by 11 foot office. It absolutely dominates my desk! I plugged in my hdmi cable into my top GTX Titan and into the tv. I turn on my tv and ran through the general setup (5 mins) and then selected the hdmi source for my computer. My god I was greeted to a beautiful splendid picture and basically needed to change my pants. I thought at this point I need to take some photos but I didnt like the desktop background. So I right clicked on the desktop and I accidentally click on screen resolution where I was greeted with the shock of my life!!!!!!!!! The TV was only running at 1080p!!!!! Yes 1080p!!!! This TV is a machine and can upscale 1080p to near 4k quality. I would say its half way. I switched to 3840 x 2160 and all the desktop icons shrunk and shot across the screen up into the top left corner. everything seams instantly so small and it even annoyed me but now 1 hour later Im loving it. All the extra real estate is awesome! I had to try a game after all that. I went to the TV settings and flicked it to Game Mode and opened up the one game I think may make this TV really shine - ARMA 3. OMG!!! every setting was set ultra and bang the game loaded up and the texture and environment looks real! I quickly hit enter to see 3rd person and it looks like a guy is standing in front of you and your looking through a window. And then a doubt crept into my mind what if its laggy and looks bad when turning and moving because of motion blur. Well I took my little soldier on a run and spin and it looks fantastic and this is only 30hz. Imagine when HDMI 2.0 is sorted and its running at 60hz twice as good!!!!!! The lag was not perceivable at all and felt good. i played for 10 minutes and thought lets give a twitch FPS game like COD a go. Well i don't know what happened but it was laggy. the motion blur was fine bearable but the textures and game looked shocking. The game gave no justice to the 4k TV. I then moved onto NBA 2k13. the game looks awesome but motion blur is visable but you get used to it. It feels like playing 2k13 on the PlayStation but far superior graphics.
Basically once HDMI 2.0 GPU's come out this TV will really come alive for me. I'm over the FPS on PC because I must admit there are some good lads that play. I haven't tried any EA games because Im having trouble logging in. I really want to try FIFA, Simcity and BF3. Maybe BF3 will be ok on the more open maps and try not to get involved in close combat (maybe camping LOL).

Any questions feel free to ask and I will try and respond or try stuff out for you.

****I just uploaded these photos and as I was picking the good from the bad I relized how easy 4k makes photo editing!







Is that shot of the soldier from a game?
post #2218 of 7241

I love the doggie sitting in front of the tv on the carpet.

 

That is a great shot..

post #2219 of 7241
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Originally Posted by quovadis123 View Post
 

I love the doggie sitting in front of the tv on the carpet.

 

That is a great shot..

 

+1. A very nice terrier. Mine would be attempting his own version of 'unboxing' in similar circumstances :)

post #2220 of 7241
The dog (Ronnie) wanted to know what was in the box LOL.
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