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Originally Posted by AustinJerry View Post


No. 1080i or 720p.

ok, so it's the same of our satellite service (no cable TV in Italy).. 

 

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Originally Posted by everunman View Post


Hi Welcome!
Can you advise if they are sending you the SONY 4K Ultra HD Media Player, FMP-X1?
If so we are lead to believe that this will not work outside of the Usa

thank you!

no, unfortunately the FMP-X1 it's not available yet in our country.. and honestly i don't know if or when it will be.. Italy it's a little "snubbed" by the big brands.. we don't have any discount code (like the 200$ for the X1) and no way to have some blu-ray mastered in 4K as in US.. nay, in the box of the TV there was a bonus code, but there aren't active offers on Sony website, so i don't know why they put in the box........ i hope in something for the future......

however, they will send me a PC (i think a Vaio), with 4K videos on it.. 

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another thing: some days ago I did send an email to the italian Sony support service, 'cause I wanted to know at which quality the youtube videos watched with the integrated app are played. they told me that they are played at the maximum quality available, and that if a video has been uploaded in 4K, I see it in 4K. buffering allowing.... 

I've tried to watch some 4K videos directly from the youtube app on the tv and in effects it looks much better then the full hd ones. how can I verify the effective resolution of a video played with the integrated youtube app?

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Originally Posted by Abbas View Post


It will NOT play 4k video thru the USB port. It can only be fed thru HDMI. I tried a 4k video like you as well but then read the manual and it only allows signal up to 1080p to be played thru the USB port. I didnt have any issues with pics though.

Ok. That explains it.  I missed it in the manual.  FWIW, I think it's pretty weak that a >$5,000 4k TV can't decode 4k content ...but I guess if it did, then they wouldn't be able to sell you the FMP-X1 for $700..

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Originally Posted by AustinJerry View Post

No. 1080i or 720p.
Pay per view movies are in 1080p on Directv
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Originally Posted by mitico303 View Post
 

another thing: some days ago I did send an email to the italian Sony support service, 'cause I wanted to know at which quality the youtube videos watched with the integrated app are played. they told me that they are played at the maximum quality available, and that if a video has been uploaded in 4K, I see it in 4K. buffering allowing.... 

I've tried to watch some 4K videos directly from the youtube app on the tv and in effects it looks much better then the full hd ones. how can I verify the effective resolution of a video played with the integrated youtube app?


unless the YouTube app on the sets sold in europe is different than the one here, it is 1080p, the 4k files do not play over the network or through the apps. The set has the display button conveniently disabled while the apps are being used.

 

if your sets are different, you can download some of the YouTube streams in real 4k and try to stream them from a NAS or media server and press the display button if they play to see the resolution. on the US sets we get the format not supported message. In the e-manual (look in the appendix) you will see 1080p as the maximum resolution across networks, internet, usb. I guess the OTA will not work should 4k ever be broadcast. As of now you will have to have the X1, a 4k player which is not available as yet, RedRay, or a super PC with a 4k graphics card.

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Originally Posted by participant View Post

Ok. That explains it.  I missed it in the manual.  FWIW, I think it's pretty weak that a >$5,000 4k TV can't decode 4k content ...but I guess if it did, then they wouldn't be able to sell you the FMP-X1 for $700..

If you have the FMP-X1, download the preview of that Life Cycle movie. The colors and resolution are superb. I have shown it to many people and they just cant help but stare at it.
post #2677 of 7316
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Originally Posted by Abbas View Post

If you have the FMP-X1, download the preview of that Life Cycle movie. The colors and resolution are superb. I have shown it to many people and they just cant help but stare at it.

I downloaded it, and the preview is only about 30 seconds long. I don't know if I can get excited about something so short, and I certainly don't want to spend $27 for the whole thing.
post #2678 of 7316
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Originally Posted by participant View Post
 

Just got the 65x900a last week.  Great tv except...

1) I downloaded LG's 4k demo content (MP4) from the web, put it on a USB flash drive, plugged into one of the USB ports on the TV.  When trying to play it, the TV gave me the "not supported" error and the video didn't play (except for some macro-block garbage on the first few lines).  Audio was ok.  WTF?  Is the 4k MP4 standard proprietary?  Why wouldn't LG's 4k material play on Sony 4k TV?  (It plays ok on my laptop -- although only few frames per second..)

2) I took an SD card full of hi-res JPGs from my Nikon SLR, plugged it into TV via USB card reader.  No pictures were found on the card!  Sad.

Looks like there are still some SW kinks in this product...

You need to play those same clips with your pc to the tv.

You cannot play 4k content from a USB

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Anyone know if you can use DisplayPort 1.2 to HDMI 2.0 and display a 2160p/60fps signal?
post #2680 of 7316
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Originally Posted by vega509 View Post
 


unless the YouTube app on the sets sold in europe is different than the one here, it is 1080p, the 4k files do not play over the network or through the apps. The set has the display button conveniently disabled while the apps are being used.

 

if your sets are different, you can download some of the YouTube streams in real 4k and try to stream them from a NAS or media server and press the display button if they play to see the resolution. on the US sets we get the format not supported message. In the e-manual (look in the appendix) you will see 1080p as the maximum resolution across networks, internet, usb. I guess the OTA will not work should 4k ever be broadcast. As of now you will have to have the X1, a 4k player which is not available as yet, RedRay, or a super PC with a 4k graphics card.

ok, thanks.. so maybe what I see is only a 1080p upscaled?

post #2681 of 7316
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Originally Posted by laakness View Post

I played around with my media center and fixed the black levels. I've also turned on dynamic led control to get better black levels during The Dark Knight Rises. I get more clouding when the LED is always at a fixed value like my previous post.

This is just cable TV run through my Ceton card and out from my on board ATi card.


Bluray through PS3

What settings are you using?
post #2682 of 7316
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Originally Posted by Gillietalls View Post

What settings are you using?

AustinJerry's but then I turned on dynamic led to 'standard' in order to not get so much clouding during really dark scenes.
post #2683 of 7316
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Originally Posted by xtwistedmetal View Post

Anyone know if you can use DisplayPort 1.2 to HDMI 2.0 and display a 2160p/60fps signal?

There is no HDMI 2.0

Only 1.4.

 

The tv will be updated to 2.0 at the end of 2013, sony says.

You can only use 24 frames per second now.

post #2684 of 7316
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Originally Posted by laakness View Post

AustinJerry's but then I turned on dynamic led to 'standard' in order to not get so much clouding during really dark scenes.

Either something is wrong with the link or I'm block here at work. I'm getting the error message, "Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage." I'll try when I get home.
post #2685 of 7316
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Originally Posted by mitico303 View Post
 

ok, thanks.. so maybe what I see is only a 1080p upscaled?


have you looked in the manual to see what resolutions are accepted? like I said the European sets may be totally different.

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Originally Posted by Gillietalls View Post

Either something is wrong with the link or I'm block here at work. I'm getting the error message, "Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage." I'll try when I get home.

The link is working for me, so I recommend trying it again.
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Originally Posted by laakness View Post

AustinJerry's but then I turned on dynamic led to 'standard' in order to not get so much clouding during really dark scenes.

I recently switched from standard to low for Dynamic LED Control because it resulted in slightly better gamma scores. The difference was small enough that I recommend using whatever setting yields the best results.

I have fine-tuned the settings posting several times over the last few weeks as I have become more proficient with running the CalMAN software. The current settings have resulted in a very good PQ for up-scaled 1080 content. Hardly a day goes by that I don't say to myself, that is a great looking picture! Another favorite show of mine is Once Upon a Time--the images are simply stunning.
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which are, according to you, the minimal requirements for a PC (better if a Mac) for the 4K playback via HDMI?

I was looking for the new macmini i7..

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Originally Posted by AustinJerry View Post

The link is working for me, so I recommend trying it again.
I recently switched from standard to low for Dynamic LED Control because it resulted in slightly better gamma scores. The difference was small enough that I recommend using whatever setting yields the best results.

I have fine-tuned the settings posting several times over the last few weeks as I have become more proficient with running the CalMAN software. The current settings have resulted in a very good PQ for up-scaled 1080 content. Hardly a day goes by that I don't say to myself, that is a great looking picture! Another favorite show of mine is Once Upon a Time--the images are simply stunning.

Thanks for the info, appreciate the settings also.
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I also have to say for the other gamers out there...I really love this TV. On the Gaming scene selection controls are very fast and I'm having no issues with games like GTA V or Battlefield 3. There is a little bit of motion blur but I always expect that.

The VT60 Plasma I returned had a ton of ghosting when panning left/right which in a shooter was really frustrating. I guess I was originally worried about the refresh rate but the proof is in the actual use, not the numbers on paper.
post #2690 of 7316
Can you post pics of the gaming images? Gta and battlefeild would be awesome to see on this tv I bet!
post #2691 of 7316
So I just got my 65X900 delivered and all I have to say is WOW!!! Am I so glad I returned the Samsung 65F8000. Now I have not really played with the adjustments nor ready to get it calibrated yet but to my eyes the colors are so much more real then the Samsung. The picture quality is also drawing me in more then the Samsung ever could. Grant it the Samsung has tremendous POP to it which is it's lure, but to my eyes the X900 is going to be more enjoyable to watch. I better make a lot of popcorn tonight.

Now there is the sound from these TV speakers. Amazing is all I can say. It has delayed my need to hook up any other audio equipment to it. I have audiophile gear in another room, but these TV speakers are quite good. There is nothing to compare on this with the Samsung.
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Originally Posted by Grubs92 View Post

Can you post pics of the gaming images? Gta and battlefeild would be awesome to see on this tv I bet!

I'll try to get some this evening.
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Originally Posted by mroadster158 View Post

So I just got my 65X900 delivered and all I have to say is WOW!!! Am I so glad I returned the Samsung 65F8000. Now I have not really played with the adjustments nor ready to get it calibrated yet but to my eyes the colors are so much more real then the Samsung. The picture quality is also drawing me in more then the Samsung ever could. Grant it the Samsung has tremendous POP to it which is it's lure, but to my eyes the X900 is going to be more enjoyable to watch. I better make a lot of popcorn tonight.

Now there is the sound from these TV speakers. Amazing is all I can say. It has delayed my need to hook up any other audio equipment to it. I have audiophile gear in another room, but these TV speakers are quite good. There is nothing to compare on this with the Samsung.

You in the same boat as me, i'm on my 2nd samsung unf8000. 65", the 3d went out on the first one & the replacement has dead pixels & flash lighting at the bottom corners, so i'm about to give up on the samsung, i think i will try the Sony x900 or 850a, please keep posting your findings, help me make my mind up.. Thanks..
post #2694 of 7316
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Originally Posted by Jim1961 View Post

You in the same boat as me, i'm on my 2nd samsung unf8000. 65", the 3d went out on the first one & the replacement has dead pixels & flash lighting at the bottom corners, so i'm about to give up on the samsung, i think i will try the Sony x900 or 850a, please keep posting your findings, help me make my mind up.. Thanks..

I was much luckier. My first 65F8000 worked fine, had it for approx. 43 days and just got bored with it once the "Pop" wore off. My gut kept telling me to just get the X900 (along with others at BB) No going back now. The picture is just fabulous. What I like most is it draws me in where the Samsung did not. I am not even viewing any 4K material yet. Plus the freaking speakers on this TV are the icing on the cake for me. I don't feel the need right now to go get a sound bar and hook up other gear yet. If you have the ability to return the f8000 and try the x900 you should at least give it a shot and see for yourself if it is the right fit. It is for me.
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It's gratifying to hear the comments from new buyers.

I liked it the day they uncrated it in the Sony store and I saw it for myself.
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Originally Posted by mroadster158 View Post

I was much luckier. My first 65F8000 worked fine, had it for approx. 43 days and just got bored with it once the "Pop" wore off. My gut kept telling me to just get the X900 (along with others at BB) No going back now. The picture is just fabulous. What I like most is it draws me in where the Samsung did not. I am not even viewing any 4K material yet. Plus the freaking speakers on this TV are the icing on the cake for me. I don't feel the need right now to go get a sound bar and hook up other gear yet. If you have the ability to return the f8000 and try the x900 you should at least give it a shot and see for yourself if it is the right fit. It is for me.

I hear ya, yea i got 2 more weeks to return the samsung & i have got to try the sony to give me a peace of mind, Thanks Again..
Edited by Jim1961 - 10/15/13 at 4:04pm
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Originally Posted by mitico303 View Post

which are, according to you, the minimal requirements for a PC (better if a Mac) for the 4K playback via HDMI?
I was looking for the new macmini i7..

The mac mini wont let you change the video card settings higher than 1920 x 1080 so you will only have upscalled 1080p
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Guys

what distance is the optimal viewing distance for a movie?

I'm 12 feet away,,

 

I prefer 10 feet, but my wife likes the 12'. So we are playing musical mattresses, and moving the bed around.

 

I have to say, I'm waiting for an 80" FALD, 4k.

65" is ok, but an 80" would arouse me much more.

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Which macbook pro retina are you using? Model number? Hoping for Apple to give us a release date on Mavericks.
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Originally Posted by jimmyg View Post

I should also add that my MacBook Pro (retina) can do the same when running OS X 10.9 Mavericks beta.
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Originally Posted by quovadis123 View Post
 

Guys

what distance is the optimal viewing distance for a movie?

I'm 12 feet away,,

 

I prefer 10 feet, but my wife likes the 12'. So we are playing musical mattresses, and moving the bed around.

 

I have to say, I'm waiting for an 80" FALD, 4k.

65" is ok, but an 80" would arouse me much more.

 

I like to move the bed around as well, but not while I am watching TV....     ;)

 

My advice would be to do whatever it takes to make the wife happy, and when she isn't in the room, do whatever you want.

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