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post #2821 of 7411

I am watching directv with the settings on 1080i and it still gives that grainy look when camera on a sports event pulls back.

post #2822 of 7411
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Originally Posted by quovadis123 View Post

Well the nuvola NP-1 will be here shortly
http://www.nuvola4k.com/

I doubt Apple will do the same..I can't imagine itunes streaming 4k content.

What content does this unit stream in 4k? I'm interested, but really want to know what will be available....
post #2823 of 7411
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Originally Posted by stevefu15 View Post

Just purchased the 65" 4k sony tv. Disappointed with the picture while watching sports. When watching a football game on fox or espn, when then camera pulls back and takes a view from further away the picture becomes grainy. When the camera does an up close shot its very clear. Went to best buy and theirs do the same thing. Was wondering if its a camera issue or a tv issue? Seems like an awful lot of money to get similar picture on a lot less expensive tv. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

I've been watching everything sports since June. Stanley Cup, US Open Tennis, Baseball, Football, even eh hem, Soccer and the picture on Comcast 1080i has looked about as good as I would expect.

I worked for ABC for over twenty years, did everything from MNF to Olympics to Lumber Jack Championships, and I will tell you without a doubt, this television is control room quality.

If there is a graininess, there is something going on with the vendor providing your service.
Edited by LeeSoFl - 10/18/13 at 6:19pm
post #2824 of 7411
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Originally Posted by stevefu15 View Post

I am watching directv with the settings on 1080i and it still gives that grainy look when camera on a sports event pulls back.
Probably the Hd feed of that particular sporting event. Some look great, others not so much! Your TV is fine!
post #2825 of 7411
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Originally Posted by LeeSoFl View Post

I've been watching everything sports since June. Stanley Cup, US Open Tennis, Baseball, Football, even eh hem, Soccer and the picture on Comcast 1080i has looked about as good as I would expect.

I worked for ABC for over twenty years, did everything from MNF to Olympics to Lumber Jack Championships, and I will tell you without a doubt, this television is control room quality.

If there is a graininess, there is something going on with the vendor providing your service.

My feelings exactly....
no television can make a lousy signal look great...
post #2826 of 7411
Agree. Sports broadcast images vary. If you have a good transmission of a 1080i... the long shots will look very good. 720p is always less than best... but especially long shots on sports. Sometimes you have a bad camera shot that spoils otherwise excellent game... like the shot of the batter from behind the pitcher. Economics is still in play... but HD has gotten better and better over the years. Nothing compares with a good 1080i or 1080p broadcast. Blu-ray even better... but when you get that full 4K you... are in heaven. Naturally 4K is not ...ALL as great as we might like, because there are so many ways to detract from perfection. We have to calmly recognize that this is about as good as it will get for quite a while. I tell myself this has got to be enough... but I said that when I was buying laser discs at $100 per two disc "album."
post #2827 of 7411
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Originally Posted by Podolski View Post




Picture Mode Cinema
Backlight 5
Picture 86
Brightness 49
Color 40 (use 50 if you don't want to use Live Color)
Hue 0
Color temperature warm 2
Sharpness 50
Noise reduction off
MPEG noise reduction off
Dot noise reduction off
Reality Creation Manual
Mastered in 4k on
Video are detection off
Resolution 20
Noise filtering min
Smooth gradation medium
Motionflow standard
CineMotion auto

Black corrector off
Adv. Contrast enhancer medium
Gamma -2
Led dynamic control standard
Auto light off
Clear white off
Live color Low (if you dont like triluminous just turn it off)
White balance

Rg -4
Gg -1
Bg 0
Rb -1
Gb +1
Bb 0

Detail enhancer low
Edge enhancer off
Skin naturalizer off

Sorry for answering late man!!! Let me know if u like it ok

Thank you! I will try them in the late afternoon! (probably when in US it's time to lunch!)

post #2828 of 7411

has anyone played with QFHD files through the USB port? Members in the Samsung F9000 thread have had success displaying 4k. Check post 549 here

 

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1479650/samsung-4k-anticipation-thread-un55f9000-un65f9000-and-un85s9-discusion/540

 

What this amounts to is breaking a 4k clip into 4 1080p clips, top left, bottom left, top right, and bottom right. Using the naming convention from the post, if the 1st of the 4 files is played from the usb port all 4 files are joined to play the 4k video.

 

I've had no success on my x900a, but the files I created do work on the F9000 at the local BestBuy. I've been trying to get more info as to what the Sony would require or even if they support QFHD, but that is scarce, and Sony's tech support won't even discuss it.

post #2829 of 7411
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Originally Posted by vega509 View Post
 

has anyone played with QFHD files through the USB port? Members in the Samsung F9000 thread have had success displaying 4k. Check post 549 here

 

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1479650/samsung-4k-anticipation-thread-un55f9000-un65f9000-and-un85s9-discusion/540

 

What this amounts to is breaking a 4k clip into 4 1080p clips, top left, bottom left, top right, and bottom right. Using the naming convention from the post, if the 1st of the 4 files is played from the usb port all 4 files are joined to play the 4k video.

 

I've had no success on my x900a, but the files I created do work on the F9000 at the local BestBuy. I've been trying to get more info as to what the Sony would require or even if they support QFHD, but that is scarce, and Sony's tech support won't even discuss it.

I'm finishing the conversion right now. I will let you know if I have success or not..

post #2830 of 7411
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Originally Posted by Podolski View Post



Picture Mode Cinema
Backlight 5
Picture 86
.......



Are you using calibration tools to arrive at these settings? If yes, what what software?
post #2831 of 7411

ok, it's not working.. it seems that the tv can't be able to understand that it have to play the 4 files together.. mmmh.. I ask for some help in the other thread.. I'll let you know..

post #2832 of 7411
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Originally Posted by mitico303 View Post
 

ok, it's not working.. it seems that the tv can't be able to understand that it have to play the 4 files together.. mmmh.. I ask for some help in the other thread.. I'll let you know..

Ge that guy from Crete to send you the file ...so we can try it ..

post #2833 of 7411

With this TV you can see 3D with 4K quality?? And with a bluray 2D you can upgrade it for 3D and 4K?

I'm sorry if the answer it's already here but the thread is giant and I couldn't read it all.  

post #2834 of 7411
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Originally Posted by CARTmen View Post

With this TV you can see 3D with 4K quality?? And with a bluray 2D you can upgrade it for 3D and 4K?
I'm sorry if the answer it's already here but the thread is giant and I couldn't read it all.  
Yes you can, but you have to wait for the Sony update ti enable the HDMI 2.0 standard and it is possibile only if you have a media player that supports 4k,3d and HDMI 2.0..
It can also play 2d content in 3d or 4k,but it's only an upscaling system, obviously..
post #2835 of 7411
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Originally Posted by Podolski View Post




Picture Mode Cinema
Backlight 5
Picture 86
Brightness 49
Color 40 (use 50 if you don't want to use Live Color)
Hue 0
Color temperature warm 2
Sharpness 50
Noise reduction off
MPEG noise reduction off
Dot noise reduction off
Reality Creation Manual
Mastered in 4k on
Video are detection off
Resolution 20
Noise filtering min
Smooth gradation medium
Motionflow standard
CineMotion auto

Black corrector off
Adv. Contrast enhancer medium
Gamma -2
Led dynamic control standard
Auto light off
Clear white off
Live color Low (if you dont like triluminous just turn it off)
White balance

Rg -4
Gg -1
Bg 0
Rb -1
Gb +1
Bb 0

Detail enhancer low
Edge enhancer off
Skin naturalizer off

Sorry for answering late man!!! Let me know if u like it ok

ok, tried. I like it, but it's a little too dark for me. btw i appreciated them, thank you!

post #2836 of 7411
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Originally Posted by mitico303 View Post


Yes you can, but you have to wait for the Sony update ti enable the HDMI 2.0 standard and it is possibile only if you have a media player that supports 4k,3d and HDMI 2.0..
It can also play 2d content in 3d or 4k,but it's only an upscaling system, obviously..

So if I buy one of this TV today, what do I have to do to see a 2D Bluray movie in 4K and 3D? I'm sorry for all the basic questions but I'm a little newbie on 4K TV's technology. 

post #2837 of 7411
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Originally Posted by CARTmen View Post
 

So if I buy one of this TV today, what do I have to do to see a 2D Bluray movie in 4K and 3D? I'm sorry for all the basic questions but I'm a little newbie on 4K TV's technology. 


everything you see on the set is upscaled to 4k. the set has a simulated 3d that can be activated, and it will show 1080p to each eye.

post #2838 of 7411
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Originally Posted by vega509 View Post


everything you see on the set is upscaled to 4k. the set has a simulated 3d that can be activated, and it will show 1080p to each eye.


and, it would help to have a bluray player that plays 3d movies; even though the 3d "simulation" is very nice on this tv, nothing beats a real 3d movie on a 3d bluray player...
post #2839 of 7411
You also can view 3D sources directly using the XBR65X900A or XBR55X900A apps playing Youtube 3D videos. We have tried 3D, 4K and regular 1080p videos from Youtube and other online sources like VIMEO and they all scaled perfectly without stutter or artifacts on the Sony 4K set.

You can also download these Youtube video files, any formats onto a USB hard drive. Format the drive as ExFat and the Sony 4K set will read and play it perfectly. 2D or 3D files.



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Originally Posted by CARTmen View Post

With this TV you can see 3D with 4K quality?? And with a bluray 2D you can upgrade it for 3D and 4K?
I'm sorry if the answer it's already here but the thread is giant and I couldn't read it all.  
post #2840 of 7411

yes, but via USB or the integrated apps the maximum resolution available is 1080p..

post #2841 of 7411
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Originally Posted by mitico303 View Post

Yes you can, but you have to wait for the Sony update ti enable the HDMI 2.0 standard and it is possibile only if you have a media player that supports 4k,3d and HDMI 2.0..
It can also play 2d content in 3d or 4k,but it's only an upscaling system, obviously..

There is no 4K 3D content. AFAIK there isn't even a theatrical standard in place yet, let alone something for the home. The Sony 4K sets can't even force simulated 3D on a 2160p signal (which has nothing to do with HDMI 2.0 or the lack thereof, try it if you don't believe me); heck, you can't even adjust 2160p for overscan or aspect ratio (though you can with a true 4096x2160 signal, because the 17:9 image needs to be scaled to fit the native res of the 16:9 panel).

Bottom line is that the TV won't display true 4K 3D, not now and possibly not ever. Even the super duper new Panasonic 4K set, which has active 3D and comes with displayport 1.2 and HDMI 2.0, categorically states (in the manual, see page 27) that it will not display 4K 3D.

http://www.panasonic.co.uk/html/en_GB/Products/VIERA+Flat+Screen+TV/Smart+VIERA+LED+TV/TX-L65WT600B/Manuals/13085164/index.html?trackInfo=true
Edited by Geoff D - 10/19/13 at 1:06pm
post #2842 of 7411
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Originally Posted by LeeSoFl View Post

I've been watching everything sports since June. Stanley Cup, US Open Tennis, Baseball, Football, even eh hem, Soccer and the picture on Comcast 1080i has looked about as good as I would expect.

I worked for ABC for over twenty years, did everything from MNF to Olympics to Lumber Jack Championships, and I will tell you without a doubt, this television is control room quality.

If there is a graininess, there is something going on with the vendor providing your service.

There's nothing wrong with admitting that you watch 'Soccer'. Or 'Football', to give it its proper name. biggrin.gif
post #2843 of 7411
There is talk that the World Cup will be shot in 4K speaking of Soccer. How we would watch it, I don't know.


http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/behind-screen/s-official-fifa-world-cup-628911
post #2844 of 7411
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Originally Posted by mitico303 View Post

ok, tried. I like it, but it's a little too dark for me. btw i appreciated them, thank you!
http://www.soundandvision.com/content/sony-xbr-65x900a-3d-lcd-ultra-hdtv-settings try these settings.
post #2845 of 7411
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Originally Posted by AustinJerry View Post

Are you using calibration tools to arrive at these settings? If yes, what what software?
http://www.soundandvision.com/content/sony-xbr-65x900a-3d-lcd-ultra-hdtv-settings
I took them from this site and I changed them to my taste! !
post #2846 of 7411
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thanks!

post #2847 of 7411
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Originally Posted by Podolski View Post

http://www.soundandvision.com/content/sony-xbr-65x900a-3d-lcd-ultra-hdtv-settings
I took them from this site and I changed them to my taste! !

The S&V are pretty close to my settings that I posted recently. I use a colorimeter and CalMAN software. I'm sure S&V uses calibration tools as well. IMO, the "basic" settings (picture, contrast, backlight, color, hue, color temp, gamma and white balance) are determined by the tools, and shouldn't be changed unless you have your own measurement tools. The "optional" settings (noise reduction, motion flow, cinemotion, and other picture correction things) distort the image and, for the most part, should be left off.
post #2848 of 7411
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Originally Posted by quovadis123 View Post

Well the nuvola NP-1 will be here shortly
http://www.nuvola4k.com/

I doubt Apple will do the same..I can't imagine itunes streaming 4k content.

Stay as far away from that device as you can. It's not even taken seriously in 4K projector threads. The bitrate is so low, the quality is going to be awful. Not to mention they don't have any significant content partners, so forget about seeing first run movies on this thing. Save yourself $300.
Edited by BrianMundt - 10/19/13 at 3:46pm
post #2849 of 7411
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Originally Posted by mitico303 View Post

Yes you can, but you have to wait for the Sony update ti enable the HDMI 2.0 standard and it is possibile only if you have a media player that supports 4k,3d and HDMI 2.0..
It can also play 2d content in 3d or 4k,but it's only an upscaling system, obviously..

Nope! This TV will never, ever play 4K 3D. Everyone keeps forgetting this is a passive set, which cuts the resolution in half. Regardless of the HDMI version, it is impossible for this set to play native 4K 3D and display all of the resolution.
post #2850 of 7411
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Originally Posted by LeeSoFl View Post

I've been watching everything sports since June. Stanley Cup, US Open Tennis, Baseball, Football, even eh hem, Soccer and the picture on Comcast 1080i has looked about as good as I would expect.

I worked for ABC for over twenty years, did everything from MNF to Olympics to Lumber Jack Championships, and I will tell you without a doubt, this television is control room quality.

If there is a graininess, there is something going on with the vendor providing your service.

"Watching a lot of sports", you are the right man for me :
Are you seeing any vertical bands during panning scenes on even color backgrounds during Football matches ?
This is very important for me because I had the 920 returned for that problem and it seems the 950 had the same problem.
Sorry if this question was already asked but there are so many pages that I hadn't have time to read them all.
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