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post #3421 of 7422
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Originally Posted by MGTR420 View Post

Which oppo are you using? Mine is having issues with not outputting 1080p.
 

Oppo 103

 

I use Auto, and let the Sony upscale.

I never use the Oppo's 2x4k

 

I'm not an expert and not really sure what to use.

post #3422 of 7422
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Originally Posted by flinchn View Post


All white full screens (not all whites) still look dingy to me as I get used to them, but I wanted to approach it a different way to see if I could compensate for what Clear White does that I DONT like. I could try again with it off but not tonight.

This dinghy buisness was really bugging me too; then I found that "eco settings" on the "preference" menu has a HUGE effect on this. Make sure all that is off and you might get a HUGE imporvement. I know I did.

I'm not looking at the menu, but there are two setting. One was along the lines of adjusting the brightness according to the scene selection, and the other concerned the room brightness. As I recall it was the scene selection nonsense that was the culprit.

Play with those and see what you think; if you haven't already.
post #3423 of 7422
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Originally Posted by jjnbos View Post


This dinghy buisness was really bugging me too; then I found that "eco settings" on the "preference" menu has a HUGE effect on this. Make sure all that is off and you might get a HUGE imporvement. I know I did.

I'm not looking at the menu, but there are two setting. One was along the lines of adjusting the brightness according to the scene selection, and the other concerned the room brightness. As I recall it was the scene selection nonsense that was the culprit.

Play with those and see what you think; if you haven't already.

 

There are several of these type of settings:

 

- Scene select sync

- Light sensor

- LED Dynamic Control

 

Based on my testing, the first two should always be set to Off.  The LED Control should be On--I get the best PQ with it set to Standard, while several others use Low.

post #3424 of 7422
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Originally Posted by MGTR420 View Post

Which oppo are you using? Mine is having issues with not outputting 1080p.
 

 

Interesting.  I use the BDP93, and with it set to Auto, the X900 receives a 1080p or 1080p/24 signal.  If you have an AVR in the middle, make sure the up-scaling in the AVR is turned off for the Blu-ray source.

post #3425 of 7422

what mode should the "ILLUMINATION LED" BE SET AT?

 

I have a few starting with demo...

post #3426 of 7422
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Originally Posted by quovadis123 View Post
 

what mode should the "ILLUMINATION LED" BE SET AT?

 

I have a few starting with demo...

Illumination LED is that little light at the bottom of the set and doesn't have anything to do with PQ.  Experiment and pick the on that fits your needs.

post #3427 of 7422
Skifta is available on the iOS App Store for free. There is no Skifta Mac OS X client. I use xbmc from xbmc.org for OS Xdesktop and laptop sharing.
post #3428 of 7422
When I received my XBR and 4K Puck I was too excited obviously. Now, I'm trying to recall if there was an UltraViolet promo flyer in the Media Server box? Asking because I was trying to figure out if the movies that came bundled on the Media Server puck are considered part of our UltraViolet collection? Haven't watched all the movies on the puck and was wondering if they qualify as UV so I can watch some of them on a mobile device when away from home sometime. Any info would be appreciated.
post #3429 of 7422
Yes they qualify, but you have to jump through registration hoops... I forgot which hoop... there are quite a few aren't there?
post #3430 of 7422
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Originally Posted by TVAzteca View Post

Skifta is available on the iOS App Store for free. There is no Skifta Mac OS X client. I use xbmc from xbmc.org for OS Xdesktop and laptop sharing.

That worked, thanks!
post #3431 of 7422
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Originally Posted by hatlesschimp View Post

Well we are approaching the end of the year and still no HDMI 2.0 update. Just found oiut that Netflix doesnt work in Australia and we dont have any of the Sony boxes here available to the public. I wander if I can buy one from the states and if it would work.

The Sony puck only works in the Usa, Netflix does work, just google and the answer is there
post #3432 of 7422
I saw the LG 84" UHD tv today and it looked nice and was running content from a computer with windows 7. It made my 65" Sony look like a postage stamp! I turned to my left and I noticed the WT600 was finally in store and looked good as well but after reading the WT600 thread I looked for the Bands from the uneven back light and it was hard to spot because of the type of images that were onscreen. However I was able to spot them for a brief millisecond when I saw an even grey image flick on. On my 2 year old 55" Samsung 1080p lcd I notice the similar back light issues and during scrolling scenes in movies and sports its really distracting. When the image is static and has multiple items on the screen breaking it up it looks great so. I still had the chance to replace my Sony with this set and couldnt justify the $6999 and having to put in the difference from $5350 that my Sony cost.

If Sony had included a Display Port 1.2a with MST they would have sold double the amount of sets. However I still bought one!!! smile.gif

However with Sony being one of the founding members of HDMI it wasnt going to happen. DP1.2a has the ability to do 60hz native but at the moment there is no controllers in a TV or Monitor that can handle it so DP1.2a with MST is only possible for 4K @ 60hz . Expect mid / late 2014 at the earliest for a TV or Monitor with DP1.2a and 4k SST 60hz native capabilities but more likely 2015.

I now have started a little side project to see if I can get a 4K panel and get a controller to accept 60Hz from a PC. I know there are sets out there that do already but they are expensive ie WT600 65" $6999 and ASUS PQ321Q 31.5" $3k. But I'm aiming for 60hz native and low as possible input lag. I might not achieve anything but I will try.

CLUB3D is claiming their new AMD R9 290X graphics card will have - "Built in HDMI 1.4a with 2.0 support, DisplayPort 1.2 and Dual DVI-D". Its the first GPU Ive seen with any hint of HDMI 2.0 support but still we dont know what they really mean by that. Also its no use to us if Sony dont update their firmware to support HDMI 2.0.

http://www.club-3d.com/index.php/products/reader.en/product/radeon-r9-290x-battlefield-4-limited-edition.html
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post #3434 of 7422
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Originally Posted by hatlesschimp View Post

Well we are approaching the end of the year and still no HDMI 2.0 update.
I personally feel that the manufacturers would be making a big mistake not fixing this issue on any brand. I have faith they will do the right thing.
post #3435 of 7422
I have a simple question.. . if you Sony had these features that are upgradeable with a simple firmware upgrade built into the TV, why didnt they release these futures already installed on the TV? Why hold back when the technology is there for more?
post #3436 of 7422
I dont know, maybe they see that there is no need to because there is no components with hdmi 2.0 yet.
post #3437 of 7422
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Originally Posted by hatlesschimp View Post

I dont know, maybe they see that there is no need to because there is no components with hdmi 2.0 yet.

doubt it... do you think more people would buy the tv if advertised as 4k/30p or 4k/60p?
post #3438 of 7422
I dont think the average consumer would know what 4K @ 30P or 60P means. On the Sony website they clearly state that it will be upgradable by the end of 2013. So they havent tried to hide anything.
post #3439 of 7422
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Originally Posted by Abbas View Post

I have a simple question.. . if you Sony had these features that are upgradeable with a simple firmware upgrade built into the TV, why didnt they release these futures already installed on the TV? Why hold back when the technology is there for more?

This assumes that the HDMI 2.0 upgrade is actually ready to be released. Who knows, Sony engineers may be still frantically working on the code that enables the upgrade.
post #3440 of 7422
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Originally Posted by Abbas View Post

I have a simple question.. . if you Sony had these features that are upgradeable with a simple firmware upgrade built into the TV, why didnt they release these futures already installed on the TV? Why hold back when the technology is there for more?

If you know anything about manufacturing or marketing, you would know that NO MANUFACTURER releases all of their "cutting edge" stuff at once; they spread it out over time, so they can have something new and great to talk about through out the year; plus, last time I checked, there were 50 days left in 2013, so until dec 31st, its still "late 2013"...
post #3441 of 7422
So here is how my replacement went.

I had my Sony x900 65" for only 3 days and I noticed a horizontal line across the panel. It was unnoticeable at normal living room distance but up close you could see it with dark images. I contacted sony and jbhifi and they organised to replace it. Unfortunately for me I had to fly interstate for 3 weeks with work. They kept in contact with me and asked if I wanted it done whilst I was away since my family is still at home to accommodate this, but my missus said she was scared she would be without cable for 2 to 3 weeks lol. So I organised to have them come over when I got back. They arrived on the time and day we had set. They had brought a new tv in box. They took it out of the box and took the stand off my broken set and put the old panel against the couch and sat the new tv on the old stand and reboxed the old tv. All done in 20mins. It was painless and they were well organised. I have vowed to only buy from that electronic store for atleast one year lol. Now my missus wants to keep it in the living room lol. I tried to sweet talk her but I was no good. She has put her foot down. I guess it means I can go back and buy another set once hdmi 2.0 becomes mainstream and graphics cards incorporate hdmi 2.0.
post #3442 of 7422
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Originally Posted by hatlesschimp View Post

I dont know, maybe they see that there is no need to because there is no components with hdmi 2.0 yet.

dear HatlessChimp,

I have to agree with your point!

As much as I love to hate corporations in general and I have flamed Sony's customer service for using things like 2wire.com...

I have to wonder what is the hysteria about 2.0 all about. It wasn't even finalized as a standard until about 45 days ago. Even if there is anything we can actually buy that is using it; I'm positive it doesn't source 4k. And has been pointed out about 50x on this forum it's not even behind schedule (end of 2013 is about 2 months in the future) let alone being dropped or an extra cost rework for us or anything else. So WHO CARES?

Perhaps we could get a short -reasoned- answer about why this endless drama about a HDMI standard needed for a 4k format (4k@60p etc) that is not even available is the even least bit interesting?

Can we give HDMI 2 a rest until 1 JAN, and then only return to the topic if turns out that they want to charge us for it?
post #3443 of 7422

I agree 100%.  If we were able to upgrade today, what benefit would there be immediately?  As long as the upgrade is forthcoming eventually, and it is a no-cost firmware update, I will be perfectly happy.

post #3444 of 7422
Only thing I would like to try a displayport 1.2a to hdmi converter from my graphics card to the updated hdmi 2.0 on the tv. Then I would have 4k 60p content. I'm unsure if it will work with all the updates to hdmi 2.0 handshake.

Now that my missus has claimed the tv and guarding it with knife in hand and growling at me I've started exploring other options for my pc. I'm thinking of going a dual projector curved screen setup like this video below. Looks fun! Maybe later I can add 2 more projectors and have a 4k screen at 150" for only $4,000. smile.gif
post #3445 of 7422
so sony delivered my replacement tv today but how do i tell if i got a newer one. the reason why i ask is because i took a picture of my wires so i could remember which way they went in. so when i went to put the wires back in i noticed the hdmi 4 port was all the way over on the right not like my old one which had the hdmi 1,2 and 4 all together. both tv boxes had the 4k media sticker on it. i just cant figure out why they switched the hdmi 4
post #3446 of 7422

Hi Guys,

 

I see so many comments and experiences on this forum, and hoping to have my questions answered here. I contacted Sony but either they don't seem to know, or they are just trying to take time out of me. 

 

I got my TV delivered yesterday. I hooked up with Internet and lack of some of the functionality, just threw me away. 

 

(1) What I noticed is that, Netflix app on the TV doesn't have streaming 3D movies at all. I have 15 MBPS internet speed and I hooked up my friend's LG 4K TV, through my own Wifi (my friend's stays next door) and his LG 4K TV showed 3D movies on my Netflix account logged in from his TV, but the same app, same internet would not show 3D movies on netflix. There is no VUDU app with Sony, anyways. Moreover, I was being told by Sony rep, that, Sony's video unlimited doesn't have any 3D movies for any 4K TV. What it boils down to is that, Sony's 4K TV (after spending nearly $6000) doesn't have 3D streaming capability, at all !!! I know, watching 3D through Blu-ray is an option, but first of all, I cannot imagine, that, such a costly TV doesn't have any source of 3D streaming content. Second, I do not want to go out during mid-night to rent 3D blurays, if I feel watching 3D Movies during that time. I mean, it's question of flexibility. What you guys experienced? Did not this bother you?

 

(2) I do not have 4K media player yet, but looking at the movie collection on 4K media player, I am hesitant to buy one. I mean, I don't see, many good content over there yet. Plus, all movies are like $8 for 24 hours rent. Whoever owns 4K player, along with this TV, can you please share your experience to me? Without, 4K media player and no 3D streaming movies, it would be like using this TV equivalent to regular $1500/$2000 HDTV !! 

 

(3) I bought Samsung's 4K upscaling Bluray player BD-F7500, and then rented regular Bluray of Hangover Part 3, but the TV did not show any message like "4K signal received" etc.? Anyone out here, with TV and samsung's 4K upscaling bluray player? I bought Samsung's 4K upscaling bluray player over Sony's 4K upscaling, because, through Samsung's product, at least I can watch streaming 3D content over bluray's netflix and Vudu app. Plus, believe me, Samsung 4K bluray's Internet Browser is must more faster than Sony's 4K TV. Samsung browser is also capable of Flash media streaming, so in case, if you want to stream webvideo, it is easy. But, somehow I could not get 4K upscaling done. I was being told by Samsung rep that the Bluray supports 4k upscaling for any movie Bluray disk as far as frame rate is equal or less than 24 fps. I could not find or don't know, how to find Bluray, which I rented from Redbox, frame rate. Anyone out here who knows, or anyone out here, tell me how to watch regular bluray with true 4K upscaling? I think, my HDMI cable is capable of high transfer rate - I mean, the 3D movies from bluray worked perfectly fine, so I presume, the HDMI should be capable of transferring 4K for this Sony TV?

 

(4) What you guys are doing with extended warranty? I checked few, but could not decide? So need help from someone experienced here. 

 

I checked Square-Trade, but realized, that, they have cap on coverage i.e. total coverage amount cannot exceed the cost of the product. Sony is selling their own extended coverage however I do not like their Pixel burnout policy i.e. Pixel burnout repairs which does not impair normal viewing are not included. In comparison, BestBuy's policy is anything more than 3 pixel issue on entire screen qualifies for repair/replacement. Additionally, Sony's manufacturer's warranty is as worst as it seems on Pixel burnout -- If I read it correctly, it would tell me that, Sony's manufacturer's warranty will NOT cover pixel issue upto 0.01% of total resolution -- i.e. in this case, 8 millions pixel, so as far as, you have about 800 pixel having burning issue, they will not cover !!! That sounds weird !! I mean, ultimately, these are LCD TVs and are prone to pixel burnout issues, so wondering, what you guys bought for this one? BestBuy one is costly -- it is $799 for 5 years !!! 

 

(5) I saw initially discussion on this forum about frame rate of the panel. I contacted Sony few times and everytime I asked, I was being told by them that it is 240 Hz Native panel rate. I even mentioned them that, on Amazon etc, it is 120 Hz. They said, the data we have is more accurate. I could not follow the initial discussion on frame rate on this forum, as the forum is lengthy enough, so wondering, if anyone got any conclusive answer later on? 

 

Thanks,

post #3447 of 7422
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Originally Posted by quovadis123 View Post
 

has anyone seen this tv?

Apparently it's 240hz 4k

 

http://www.lg.com/us/tvs/lg-65LA9650-led-tv

I had checked this one and LG person confirmed to me after talking to someone in their engineering team --- that this has 120 Hz panel and some logic in it upgrades to 240 Hz. In that comparison, you can say, Sony is better option. Good part on this LG tv is that, it has Netflix version which supports streaming 3D movies from netflix whereas the Sony one does not.

post #3448 of 7422
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Originally Posted by hatlesschimp View Post

Well we are approaching the end of the year and still no HDMI 2.0 update. Just found oiut that Netflix doesnt work in Australia and we dont have any of the Sony boxes here available to the public. I wander if I can buy one from the states and if it would work.

Netflix will work in Australia too, if you have Hidemyass Pro account and a configurable router to support the VPN. Check their website or google for more info. I am not sure, if it is legal though. It should be, bcoz, many seem to be using it, but do your own research too.

post #3449 of 7422
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Originally Posted by jjnbos View Post

dear HatlessChimp,

I have to agree with your point!

As much as I love to hate corporations in general and I have flamed Sony's customer service for using things like 2wire.com...

I have to wonder what is the hysteria about 2.0 all about. It wasn't even finalized as a standard until about 45 days ago. Even if there is anything we can actually buy that is using it; I'm positive it doesn't source 4k. And has been pointed out about 50x on this forum it's not even behind schedule (end of 2013 is about 2 months in the future) let alone being dropped or an extra cost rework for us or anything else. So WHO CARES?

Perhaps we could get a short -reasoned- answer about why this endless drama about a HDMI standard needed for a 4k format (4k@60p etc) that is not even available is the even least bit interesting?

Can we give HDMI 2 a rest until 1 JAN, and then only return to the topic if turns out that they want to charge us for it?

I think pretty much everyone missed my point. I was not asking about HDMI 2.0 at all.. All I was asking is why would Sony hold back the feature that is already incorporated into the TV. I know it is coming and I know I need to wait til end of the year... but wouldnt have been easier, if the TV was unlocked to its full potential out of the box? They didnt have to say it was 2.0 as they didnt have that standard yet but they could have said that it was 1.4 but also has 4k/60p and .... If TV manufacturers were bound to only make products within the HDMI guideline, then that would be a good argument but they are not... they can do whatever they want
post #3450 of 7422
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Originally Posted by BrianMundt View Post

Just found an interesting article. Though I have a few qualms with how they conducted the test, I think it illustrates the need for higher-bitrate 4K content. To the average consumer, I can't see these subtle differences driving many sales.

http://asia.cnet.com/showdown-4k-vs-blu-ray-movies-62222673.htm

It makes me feel a little more confident in the longevity of my Blu-Ray collection though. Ever since testing out movies on the FMP-X1, I don't feel as guilty about buying Blu-Ray with disc-based 4K around the corner.

Do you have a bluray player which does 4K upscaling? If yes, which one it is ? Sony or Samsung one? 

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